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Stranger Things [Netflix] [*** Spoilers ***]

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    No one gives a feck about Barb

    Exactly my point. They might as well have had a scene at the end where they literally said
    Should someone talk to Barb's parents?.... nah, f**k it. :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    This probably one of the rare times I will say this but I wish they hadn't released these all in one go. After 2 episodes I think I'd actually be enjoying it even more if I was left to stew it for a week before the next one and enjoy the chat here between episodes. Great so far but abandoning a binge watch to soak it up and think about it for a day or 2 .

    The one issue I have with shows being released all at once, especially ones like this, is that it does make it hard to discuss it episode by episode. You can watch it at whatever pace you choose but chances are whoever you're discussing it with is watching at a different one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    This was fantastic. Extremely satisfying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    Exactly my point. They might as well have had a scene at the end where they literally said
    Should someone talk to Barb's parents?.... nah, f**k it. :D
    That was actually Barbs foster Mom we seen earlier, both her parents died years ago in separate airline crashes on the same day,I mean what are the chances?, It's OK though as no one gave a feck about them eitherðŸ˜


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    That was actually Barbs foster Mom we seen earlier, both her parents died years ago in separate airline crashes on the same day,I mean what are the chances?, It's OK though as no one gave a feck about them eitherðŸ˜
    She was never really there, that's why Steve's friend didn't know who Nancy was talking about when she asked if they'd seen her :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Was planning to just watch episode 4 & 5 tonight, but damn they went an upped the ante at the end of every episode and I had to just keep going, hence why I'm posting at 4am having finished this amazing series. It actually played like a 7/8 hour film essentially moreso than a series.

    Absolutely brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭ondafly


    This show was excellent. ET meets Fright Night meets The Goonies. The soundtrack was excellent and the use of Moby fitted even if its not from the 80s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,028 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Playlist on Spotify for those who are interested..

    .. unfortunately, none of the excellent score!

    EDIT: Though someone made a nice little extended version of theme tune!



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    There's a great interview here with Shawn Levy and Dan Cohen who are the producers on the show. They talk about how they came to be involved in it, how Netflix got involved, a bit about the filming process and possible plans for a second season. There's no spoilers.

    http://collider.com/shawn-levy-dan-cohen-stranger-things-interview/

    It sounds like Netflix are great to work with and we probably knew it already but Network TV in the States is going to have to seriously overhaul itself or risk dying off completely. I think the recent Emmy nominations would back that up too. Very little love for Network shows.

    Interestingly enough I think The CW are probably the most forward thinking of the main networks in that they have started reducing episode numbers for some series and trying to tell a more structured story while still having the 22 episode shows running throughout the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Finished this series in 2 days! Unreal show!!

    Same here, couldn't stop watching. Loved Dustin :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Netflix put this up. It's not really spoilery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Loved the show, binge watched it and finished it last night.

    From the awesome score that sets a really familiar 80s tone, to the general feel of the programme. I watched most of them until 4am Sunday morning it was just really good storytelling.

    Part of me hopes they don't make a season 2 purely because it was a uniquely enjoyable watch. But another part of me wants more.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Put it on tonight and currently watching the 4th show..
    Finding it really hard to turn off...

    Amazing, really love the music..


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I'm jealous of all the people who haven't finished yet :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    I'm jealous of all the people who haven't finished yet :D


    I've just started ep 6. I'm still gobsmacked at how epic it is on nearly every level. It feels like its been years in the making. I honestly haven't been this drawn in to a horror/super natural movie/show since I was a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    It's drenched in 80's nostalgia and yet I never once felt like anything was wedged in, or overplayed for the sake of it. Very impressed feat across an entire series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Started watching this at around 3/4 and I'm just after finishing it.

    My god, it was just spectacular. Felt more like an 8hr movie rather than a series. The finale was brillaint as well and no doubt it has the potential to continue the storyline for season 2.



    Netflix really should stop releasing their series out at once because it's unhealthy for me. Especially when it's on a glorious day like today and I just basked myself in bed :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭headnorth


    Was a good show, really liked it, watched it over 1 night and finished this morning.

    Just watch the opening sequence of Halloween 4 and it sets the mood for this and for the mid-west in america in the 80's(huge leap)

    Google www youtube.com/watch?v=7nwMfSdlj7Y


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'm jealous of all the people who haven't finished yet :D

    Episode 3 now; the first dip in the pace for me, where at lot of the running time felt like checking on various characters and moving the furniture a little (literally in the case of Joyce :D) But then that ending, wow! I didn't see that coming and that was a masterful way to sidefooting any audience member playing guessing games. I thought I was beginning to piece together a theory, now it's back to square 1!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    One of the best shows ive seen in a while, going to give it another watch over the weekend again because it took me by surprise the first time and i flew through the episodes


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If Netflix keeps producing content like this, then I have seriously no issue with their fees increase. Absolutely phenomenal.

    The soundtrack, the acting (so good to see Wyona Ryder again!), the kids, the music, the .. just everything.

    Definitely one of the better shows that I've ever seen and Netflix is potentially becoming a HBO killer.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    If Netflix keeps producing content like this, then I have seriously no issue with their fees increase. Absolutely phenomenal.

    The soundtrack, the acting (so good to see Wyona Ryder again!), the kids, the music, the .. just everything.

    Definitely one of the better shows that I've ever seen and Netflix is potentially becoming a HBO killer.

    Netflix seem to have a really good way of working on their original content. And by original content I mean stuff they actually commission themselves, not stuff they buy to distribute after it's been made.

    In the interview I linked a few days ago with the 2 producers of Stranger Things two things stand out to me.

    1 - The Duffer Brothers were very picky about who they hired in every department. They seemed to have a lot of input/control over every aspect of production.

    2 - Netflix are very hands off. There were 2/3 Netflix executives involved, 2/3 people from the production company, and then the Duffers. Netflix weren't breathing over their shoulder all the time, they weren't sending people to set, they didn't ask to see dailies or even finished episodes until the last minute, which meant the Duffers could come back and change things or fix things if the needed right up to the last minute. They didn't even do test screenings or get audience reactions before presenting the finished product. Those people mentioned above saw some of the episodes and the cast/crew saw the first two episodes at a screening party about a week before it was all on Netflix. There was practically zero outside influence.

    Basically what it boils down to is that the people with the creative vision are allowed to create exactly what it is they set out to create without having to please anyone but themselves. Now I'm sure there's a lot of work involved on Netflix's part when it comes to finding the right projects and the right people to work with but once they do they seem to trust them entirely to deliver it.

    This is something you just don't get with Network TV and arguably as things like HBO and Showtime became the places people looked to for quality TV the same problems could arise there, as indeed it could with Netflix eventually.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    O.k. thoroughly enjoyed that but one question/comment.
    Did Hopper really give up the location to where Eleven was? Seems very out of character for a guy who lost his daughter. I'm hoping/assuming that there will be more explanation on what his deal was and why he got in the car near the end. Did I miss something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    went and checked the list of songs from the series
    it's here: http://www.whats-on-netflix.com/other/stranger-things-soundtrack-complete-song-listing/

    of course, I had to open the last one first:
    Moby - When it's Cold I'd Like To Die
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ke2Hmkpdc

    all the feels

    not the only one from Stranger Things to visit it either looking at the comments


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Slydice wrote: »
    went and checked the list of songs from the series
    it's here: http://www.whats-on-netflix.com/other/stranger-things-soundtrack-complete-song-listing/

    of course, I had to open the last one first:
    Moby - When it's Cold I'd Like To Die
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ke2Hmkpdc

    all the feels

    not the only one from Stranger Things to visit it either looking at the comments

    Have to be honest, I missed that song completely,
    I was too busy sobbing uncontrollably


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    mewso wrote: »
    O.k. thoroughly enjoyed that but one question/comment.
    Did Hopper really give up the location to where Eleven was? Seems very out of character for a guy who lost his daughter. I'm hoping/assuming that there will be more explanation on what his deal was and why he got in the car near the end. Did I miss something?
    He did give her up. He was negotiating the whole time. She was the only leverage for any negotiations there.

    He lost a child and he knew Will was close to death because of Eleven seeing him in the pool in the gymnasium.

    My guess/feeling is he didn't want to give her up but he didn't want Will to die more than that. So he gave her up in exchange for the chance to get a rescue attempt for Will.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    mewso wrote: »
    O.k. thoroughly enjoyed that but one question/comment.
    Did Hopper really give up the location to where Eleven was? Seems very out of character for a guy who lost his daughter. I'm hoping/assuming that there will be more explanation on what his deal was and why he got in the car near the end. Did I miss something?
    He may have made some sort of deal beyond what we saw, I hope. I thought it was pretty ****ty too. That said he did it to get Joyce's kid back which ties in with him losing his own. I was thinking to that maybe, given all the people he made the deal with were killed in the school, there might be someone else from the lab pulling the strings now, that might be why he got into the car at the end.

    My own question....

    Did they show how 11 got out of the lab? I remember
    them showing her touching the monster and all hell breaking loose, the walls cracking and all that but I don't remember 11 leaving the lab, she was in the water tank when all that was happening, no?

    I think I might need to watch it again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    mewso wrote: »
    O.k. thoroughly enjoyed that but one question/comment.
    Did Hopper really give up the location to where Eleven was? Seems very out of character for a guy who lost his daughter. I'm hoping/assuming that there will be more explanation on what his deal was and why he got in the car near the end. Did I miss something?

    Ya I thought that odd as well at the time, from what transpired after it seems she had no idea he was going to do that.

    He may have just done it as he thought the out come would be the best case scenario, kind of a dick move all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    SPOILERS OF THE WHOLE OF SEASON ONE HERE
    Have to be honest, I missed that song completely,
    I was too busy sobbing uncontrollably
    It registered with me but at that point, I think I was just being bombarded with so much, I couldn't take it all in.

    I looked up the song and someone on songmeanings said:
    http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/100417/
    I love this song, its so sad, its just like....when you've given up-thats what it means, you didn't mean to, but its happened and now you can't do anything about it
    then I just rewatched the scene and it was the sherrif and his daughter
    at the same time as Him and Joyce with Will and them both fighting for Wills life.

    That's it! That's why he tries so hard. He can't lose Will. He can't lose a child.

    It's just so sad thinking about it.

    **** cancer!

    THIS ALL CAME JUST AFTER ELEVENS SACRIFICE!!! OMG HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO PROCESS IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    He may have made some sort of deal beyond what we saw, I hope. I thought it was pretty ****ty too. That said he did it to get Joyce's kid back which ties in with him losing his own. I was thinking to that maybe, given all the people he made the deal with were killed in the school, there might be someone else from the lab pulling the strings now, that might be why he got into the car at the end.

    My own question....

    Did they show how 11 got out of the lab? I remember
    them showing her touching the monster and all hell breaking loose, the walls cracking and all that but I don't remember 11 leaving the lab, she was in the water tank when all that was happening, no?

    I think I might need to watch it again.
    Im nearly certain they didn't show her escaping the lab, I suppose she just ran out as she's fairly unstoppable when she's not contained the water tank would not have been closed at the top as the air supply was coming through.

    It may be she crawled through that pipe and that's why they wouldn't show the chief the correct CCTV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Did they show how 11 got out of the lab? I remember
    them showing her touching the monster and all hell breaking loose, the walls cracking and all that but I don't remember 11 leaving the lab, she was in the water tank when all that was happening, no?

    I think I might need to watch it again.
    I can't tell.
    She shows up at the diner in the scene after the scientists are checking out the damage to the lab. My guess it the monster ripped open the place and she was locked off from the other parts cos of the doors being pass-carded so she just wandered out through the holes it had made.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Im nearly certain they didn't show her escaping the lab, I suppose she just ran out as she's fairly unstoppable when she's not contained the water tank would not have been closed at the top as the air supply was coming through.

    It may be she crawled through that pipe and that's why they wouldn't show the chief the correct CCTV.
    I forgot about the pipe, that's obviously how she got out of the lab grounds. I just couldn't remember her getting out of the lab itself, but I assumed it was during all the chaos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    mewso wrote: »
    O.k. thoroughly enjoyed that but one question/comment.
    Did Hopper really give up the location to where Eleven was? Seems very out of character for a guy who lost his daughter. I'm hoping/assuming that there will be more explanation on what his deal was and why he got in the car near the end. Did I miss something?
    Maybe he took a calculated risk that the kid who's all gums would be overcome by his lust for chocolate pudding and lead them all to safety


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Maybe he took a calculated risk that the kid who's all gums would be overcome by his lust for chocolate pudding and lead them all to safety

    Ha! To be fair though....
    11 took care of all the guys who tried to take her back, it was the monster got her in the end. Although.... I suppose it was the blood of all the bad guys that led the monster there, so... yeah.... still the Chief's fault.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    Ha! To be fair though....
    11 took care of all the guys who tried to take her back, it was the monster got her in the end. Although.... I suppose it was the blood of all the bad guys that led the monster there, so... yeah.... still the Chief's fault.

    Ya but regardless of how it worked out he still
    gave her up
    I wonder why he didn't just lie to them, and then they just believed him as well, didn't check it out or nothing, bit stupid?.............must try harderr not to nitpick.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Ya but regardless of how it worked out he still
    gave her up
    I wonder why he didn't just lie to them, and then they just believed him as well, didn't check it out or nothing, bit stupid?.............must try harderr not to nitpick.

    True... but the lab people didn't think
    the Chief and Joyce were going to find Will and/or get out alive again so I suppose they just thought take him at his word and worse case scenario is the chief dies and they keep looking for 11 who would then only have 3 kids helping her hide


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    True... but the lab people didn't think
    the Chief and Joyce were going to find Will and/or get out alive again so I suppose they just thought take him at his word and worse case scenario is the chief dies and they keep looking for 11 who would then only have 3 kids helping her hide
    Or check it out, if she's not there interrogate them further would be more logical, I mean it's pretty much only 3 kids on her side now anyway with the chief and Wills mum locked up. They don't seem like the type that would give you your 1 phone call


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭ikeano29


    5 in. Will finish the rest tonight. Great show


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭sheep?


    He may have made some sort of deal beyond what we saw, I hope. I thought it was pretty ****ty too. That said he did it to get Joyce's kid back which ties in with him losing his own. I was thinking to that maybe, given all the people he made the deal with were killed in the school, there might be someone else from the lab pulling the strings now, that might be why he got into the car at the end.
    That's my thoughts on it as well. I'd wager there's a little more to Hopper than a city cop family man with a tragic back story. He handled that infiltration into the lab first time round very handily.... :p

    Great series, watched in one go today. :o

    Creamed myself with the music, those synths were perfect every time.
    If I had any gripe it's that I thought Ryder played the hysterical Mom a little over the top in the first few episodes, but then reigned it in very very nicely.

    The kid actors were top notch, extremely likeable.
    I also loved it when Steve went back into the house in the last episode. I actually found myself shouting. "Come ON Steve, I KNOW you're not a coward!......YAAAAAAY!" :o


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Slydice hope you're taking the piss with your post. Seriously use spoilers like everyone else. Not everyone is finished


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  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭sassyj


    sheep? wrote: »
    That's my thoughts on it as well. I'd wager there's a little more to Hopper than a city cop family man with a tragic back story. He handled that infiltration into the lab first time round very handily.... :p

    Great series, watched in one go today. :o

    Creamed myself with the music, those synths were perfect every time.
    If I had any gripe it's that I thought Ryder played the hysterical Mom a little over the top in the first few episodes, but then reigned it in very very nicely.

    The kid actors were top notch, extremely likeable.
    I also loved it when Steve went back into the house in the last episode. I actually found myself shouting. "Come ON Steve, I KNOW you're not a coward!......YAAAAAAY!" :o

    This is the best thing I have watched in a long, long time! Finished last night.

    Re Hopper
    there is definitely more to him. Notice how he quickly disabled the 3 bad men looking for the kids on the bus? There was another scene, can't recall at the minute, and I remember thinking the same

    The entire cast were brilliant, not a weak link among them, but Mike wins it for me, just a great geeky funny kid.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The best thing about the kids is the fact that they all seem like they could be friends in real life. Like everything about them, their group, and their interactions was totally believable.

    Plus each of them were incredible actors. I would argue that Ele's performance was possibly the hardest, because she had such few lines of dialogue (compared to the others) that hers had to be a more physical performance.

    I have no idea where they could go with Season 2. Does anyone know whether they'll follow the usual TV format or adapt a more American Horror Story style, with each season being different?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I have no idea where they could go with Season 2. Does anyone know whether they'll follow the usual TV format or adapt a more American Horror Story style, with each season being different?

    The producers said they played around with the idea of doing an anthology style thing or maybe revisiting the same characters but at a later point in their lives but in the end they decided they'd pretty much pick up where they left off.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The producers said they played around with the idea of doing an anthology style thing or maybe revisiting the same characters but at a later point in their lives but in the end they decided they'd pretty much pick up where they left off.

    That's a pity. It would be excellent to move it to the 90s, where the kids are young adults, just to show how it has affected their lives. A 10 year shift between stories. Then season 3 might do something similar, with how it affects their children.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    That's a pity. It would be excellent to move it to the 90s, where the kids are young adults, just to show how it has affected their lives. A 10 year shift between stories. Then season 3 might do something similar, with how it affects their children.

    You'd have to recast nearly everyone though and update everything to the 90's, sets, wardrobe etc.
    I think the "1 month later" bit at the end kind of set it up for a direct follow on anyway.

    The worry for me would be, and they mention this in that interview I keep talking about, is that the show runners will all be a little busier now, they may have to bring in a few more people from "outside" to write/direct and then there's the risk of losing what made the 1st season so special.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    pc7 wrote: »
    Slydice hope you're taking the piss with your post. Seriously use spoilers like everyone else. Not everyone is finished

    Just so I'm clear on this... ye're joking cos all my recent posts have almost nothing but spoiler tags on them? :)

    otherwise, link me to the post! :D


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Slydice wrote: »
    Just so I'm clear on this... ye're joking cos all my recent posts have almost nothing but spoiler tags on them? :)

    otherwise, link me to the post! :D

    Yesterday at 22.03, on phone don't want to requote it, as I say I hope your taking the piss about eleven. If you aren't it should be spoiler red as should comment about sherriff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    pc7 wrote: »
    Yesterday at 22.03, on phone don't want to requote it,
    as I say I hope your taking the piss about eleven. If you aren't it should be spoiler red as should comment about sherriff

    There was already spoiler tags on it but I've added some red text above it with further warning.

    I recommend avoiding any posts using spoiler tags.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ^^ I don't understand what's happening here. That entire post is behind spoiler tags.... was it not like that originally?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    ^^ I don't understand what's happening here. That entire post is behind spoiler tags.... was it not like that originally?

    It was just like that. I haven't changed the spoiler tags.

    I just added the extra warning in red text.


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