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Why don't women follow women's sports?

  • 09-06-2016 04:59PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,745 gormdubhgorm
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    With all the sport on Telly this year and the probable success of Ireland's Gold hopeful Katie Taylor, the question why women do not follow women's sports is annoying me.

    Katie Taylor has won one Olympic gold and five world titles in boxing. Yet I cannot name any of the women she defeated.
    Why is this? I asked myself.
    It does not get enough coverage why does it not get coverage = not enough interest in the viewing public. You would think at least the women would show show more then a token interest in thier own sports? Thereby increasing interest.


    I then thought about the women's Rugby, Camogie and Ladies Football. Wouldn't you think the women would support thier own games and follow the teams in greater numbers?
    Yet when the men's equivalent sports are on the women go to games!? (This maybe because it is a good day out, a chance to be seen there, or to get a fella! Who knows?)

    Now I realise that statistically women prefer to go to the theater/show rather then follow sport. In fact relationships could be said to be the female sport of choice. To discuss who is going out with who from the celebrity world or down the road. Or better still who broke up with who. Soap operas are created for this market.

    But then why do women not go to the soap operas that are played out in sport between female competitors?

    I found an American article which discusses this dated 2003!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/15/weekinreview/ideas-trends-why-don-t-women-watch-women-s-sports.html

    Nothing much seems to have changed.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 gimmick
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    Most women don't like sports and those that pretend to do only so they can bag a man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 DrumSteve
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    I feel like you answered your own question in the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 seamus
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    A rather odd line of thinking that assumes that women should want to watch women's sports more than men's. Or that it's women's fault that women's sport isn't as popular.

    I'm pretty sure women watch men's sports for exactly the same reasons that men do. And a large part of it comes down to the fact that men's sports take the lion's share of the advertising and funding in a continuous feedback loop that means that men's sport is better resourced than women's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,985 PARlance
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    I'm busy working on my "why don't more men wear makeup" project but I'll help you crack this one once I'm done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,992 _Whimsical_
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    Because if you like sport you watch all sports and if you don't like it you watch very little. A lot of women tend not to watch any sport, women's sport is not any different than men's so why would they watch it?

    Why don't men who enjoy watching sport generally watch women's sport is a better question surely?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 topper75
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    Bag a man.

    Sounds like a good game.

    Who will win?

    To Paddy Power for the odds...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Mens sport is more popular than women's sport because by and large men are physically superior to women. This is due to nature, there's nothing we can do about it.

    People like to see the very best of human athletic performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 Potatoeman
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    seamus wrote: »
    A rather odd line of thinking that assumes that women should want to watch women's sports more than men's. Or that it's women's fault that women's sport isn't as popular.

    I'm pretty sure women watch men's sports for exactly the same reasons that men do. And a large part of it comes down to the fact that men's sports take the lion's share of the advertising and funding in a continuous feedback loop that means that men's sport is better resourced than women's.

    It could be the skill level. The same reason the league of Ireland doesn't attract the same level of interest as the premiership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 SEPT 23 1989
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    I witnessed the whole of Houston Station coming to a standstill to watch one of her fights they had on TV one afternoon a few years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,794 osarusan
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    It could be the skill level. The same reason the league of Ireland doesn't attract the same level of interest as the premiership.

    Actually it's the other way round - if the LOI had all the funding the Premier League had, it would be just as good - the players would just move to the LOI instead - as many of them now move to Russia or China or wherever will pay them a massive wage. It would still be the LOI, but all the players would be different.

    But the women's league, even with a level funding that could make it the best women's league in the world, would still be at a lower level of skill, pace, and physicality, to the best men's league.

    Things are changing in some sports though - the women's football world cup gets a lot of crowds and coverage these days. I think maybe we don't notice it in Ireland because the women's team is never there.

    In other sports like tennis and gymnastics, the women's versions are popular in their own right.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 Buona Fortuna
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    Beach volleyball is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 jamesbere
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    Beach volleyball is great.

    Very competitive, definitely has to be watched


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ToddyDoody
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    Count the number of women coming out of a women's Wimbleton match.... plenty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 bodice ripper
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    The women aren't into sports thing falls down whenever you meet some woman who does roller derby. **** is a cult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 seamus
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    People like to see the very best of human athletic performance.
    I actually disagree.

    Women's tennis is the one example I'd throw out here (though there are others). It's arguably as popular as men's tennis, even if they don't earn as much.

    People aren't really interested in seeing the strongest or the fastest unless that's the primary measure in the sport - e.g. Boxing or the 100m sprint.

    But it's not in most sports. Tennis is a game of skill and strategy first, athletic performance second. So too are the majority of other sports. A professional womens' football game involves just as much excitement and skill as a mens' game.

    A team of fat former professionals in their 40s will steamroll a team of physically fit 20-year-old non-players every day of the week. Soccer is a game of skill first and foremost.

    It's not about the raw physicality. That's not why people watch sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 jamesbere
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    The women aren't into sports thing falls down whenever you meet some woman who does roller derby. **** is a cult.

    Huh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,745 gormdubhgorm
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    PARlance wrote: »
    I'm busy working on my "why don't more men wear makeup" project but I'll help you crack this one once I'm done.
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    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 Icaras
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    Why don't men who enjoy watching sport generally watch women's sport is a better question surely?

    Because its not at anywhere near the same level, women football/soccer/camogie etc. have a significantly lower skill level and speed than the mens game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,745 gormdubhgorm
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    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Count the number of women coming out of a women's Wimbleton match.... plenty.

    Tennis appears to be one of the few exceptions. But this may be due to the fact that men watch women's tennis so more women go there as consequence because it is high profile.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,292 mdwexford
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    Male or female, nobody wants to sit through the horror show that is the majority of women's sporting events.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 jamesbere
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    mdwexford wrote: »
    Male or female, nobody wants to sit through the horror show that is the majority of women's sporting events.

    Tennis, athletics, boxing, skiing, rowing, swimming. All enjoyable to watch involving women and very competitive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 Vegeta
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    Yup I love men's and women's alpine skiing. Would happily watch either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,292 mdwexford
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    jamesbere wrote: »
    Tennis, athletics, boxing, skiing, rowing, swimming. All enjoyable to watch involving women and very competitive

    I did say the majority, I can list tons where the standard compared to men is appalling. I know that's not the be all and end all but it helps if they aren't rubbish.

    I love women's tennis.
    I'll give you athletics as I enjoy it during the olympics.

    Women's boxing isn't for me.

    Ski-ing, rowing and swimming are awful regardless of who's doing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 namloc1980
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    In general I enjoy individual women's sports, but men's team sports are superior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 Halloween Jack
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    seamus wrote: »
    I actually disagree.

    Women's tennis is the one example I'd throw out here (though there are others). It's arguably as popular as men's tennis, even if they don't earn as much.

    People aren't really interested in seeing the strongest or the fastest unless that's the primary measure in the sport - e.g. Boxing or the 100m sprint.

    But it's not in most sports. Tennis is a game of skill and strategy first, athletic performance second. So too are the majority of other sports. A professional womens' football game involves just as much excitement and skill as a mens' game.

    A team of fat former professionals in their 40s will steamroll a team of physically fit 20-year-old non-players every day of the week. Soccer is a game of skill first and foremost.

    It's not about the raw physicality. That's not why people watch sports.

    The fat 40 year old ex (male) pro's would also steamroll a team of fit 20 year old women players though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Well I have to admit the amount of sports I'd spectate at is limited.

    I don't watch any ball games, so GAA, soccer & rugby is out for me.

    I follow (mostly) combat sports, and coach Judo.

    I much prefer to watch women fight than men, I prefer to coach a woman too ~ they're easier, they don't pretend they already know how to fight without coaching and when they do learn they're fecking tenacious.

    When women fight its almost entirely technical and very aggressive.

    Give me a woman to train to fight over most men, and they're usually spectacular to watch.

    My other sport (I don't compete) would be cycling, tbh I've no idea why I don't watch women cycling events ~ maybe they're not televised as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ahnowbrowncow
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    seamus wrote: »
    I actually disagree.

    Women's tennis is the one example I'd throw out here (though there are others). It's arguably as popular as men's tennis, even if they don't earn as much.

    People aren't really interested in seeing the strongest or the fastest unless that's the primary measure in the sport - e.g. Boxing or the 100m sprint.

    But it's not in most sports. Tennis is a game of skill and strategy first, athletic performance second. So too are the majority of other sports. A professional womens' football game involves just as much excitement and skill as a mens' game.

    A team of fat former professionals in their 40s will steamroll a team of physically fit 20-year-old non-players every day of the week. Soccer is a game of skill first and foremost.

    It's not about the raw physicality. That's not why people watch sports.

    Women's tennis isn't as popular as the men's game, this is despite earning the same prize money and having just as much coverage so your point is null and void.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 Andre 3000
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    seamus wrote: »
    I actually disagree.

    Women's tennis is the one example I'd throw out here (though there are others). It's arguably as popular as men's tennis, even if they don't earn as much.

    People aren't really interested in seeing the strongest or the fastest unless that's the primary measure in the sport - e.g. Boxing or the 100m sprint.

    But it's not in most sports. Tennis is a game of skill and strategy first, athletic performance second. So too are the majority of other sports. A professional womens' football game involves just as much excitement and skill as a mens' game.

    A team of fat former professionals in their 40s will steamroll a team of physically fit 20-year-old non-players every day of the week. Soccer is a game of skill first and foremost.

    It's not about the raw physicality. That's not why people watch sports.

    Women's tennis is nowhere near as popular as men's tennis. Not even close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,663 Jack Killian
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    seamus wrote: »
    A rather odd line of thinking that assumes that women should want to watch women's sports more than men's. Or that it's women's fault that women's sport isn't as popular.

    I'm pretty sure women watch men's sports for exactly the same reasons that men do. And a large part of it comes down to the fact that men's sports take the lion's share of the advertising and funding in a continuous feedback loop that means that men's sport is better resourced than women's.

    Resources don't make a sport interesting though ? Nor exposure.

    American Football and Baseball and NASCAR and WWF / whatever Conor McGregor does is funded to the hilt, and I still wouldn't watch them.

    Cricket is rammed down our throats by Sky forgetting we're a separate country and I wouldn't watch it.

    So there's more to it than those.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Women's tennis isn't as popular as the men's game, this is despite earning the same prize money and having just as much coverage so your point is null and void.

    Yes they don't draw the same revenue or viewing figures. There was a scandal recently when tournament director Raymond Moore was pressured into resigning his position for pointing out this fact.


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