wicklow 200

tommymacc1

Hi,

I'm going to do the Wicklow 200 this year.I got 150 km in today. Plenty of hills and some flats up in west Wicklow, glenmalure, laragh, saly gap.
Is 150 spin enough in the tank to be prepared or do I need like a 175 km before the event?
Thanks
Thomas

Wishbone Ash

150k is loads. The buzz on the day will bring you along. Some members of our club hadn't done more than 100k and were set to do the 100k last year but a few of us offered a bit of encouragement and said that they could do a 100k any Sunday so why waste the opportunity to do a 200k with the crowds and atmosphere etc. They all got on fine and were delighted with themselves.

godtabh

Probably a lot more to do with what you have done before today (or the day itself).


I'll be doing the boards thing the day before. Havent been over 1000m or 135km this year and I'll be fairly confident of doing 250km and 4000m-5000m of climbing. Wont be easy but I've done a fair but of work

bazermc

You be grand, most I did before my first Wicklow was about 130

tommymacc1

Deadly feedback. Wasn't sure. I did the 100km with young fellas I work with last year. Was amazing. But been dying to do the 200. I only started training a month ago. But flew up the miles. So I'm delighted. What would you suggest training size for the next 2 weeks, surely another 150 spin is too much?

Bikerbhoy

tommymacc1 wrote: »

Deadly feedback. Wasn't sure. I did the 100km with young fellas I work with last year. Was amazing. But been dying to do the 200. I only started training a month ago. But flew up the miles. So I'm delighted. What would you suggest training size for the next 2 weeks, surely another 150 spin is too much?

No not at all another long spin will really sort you out both mentally and physically for the big day. Being confident about comfortably covering the distance of 200k will only add to the enjoyment of the day. Preparing for long distance cycling events doesn't require this tapering lark folk harp on about . . . just ride your bike . . It'll be grand. .

ted1

What kind of times are the average joe expecting? 25 Kmh? Plus or minus

smacl

ted1 wrote: »

What kind of times are the average joe expecting? 25 Kmh? Plus or minus

This sub-average joe takes about 10 hours all in on a good day, 11 if its not so good, riding mostly solo. A lot depends on the weather, and things will be faster if you get in with a group you're comfortable with. You see a lot of times posted here of ~8 hours rolling, but they're fitter boys and girls than myself.

Macy0161

First Wicklow 200 this year (first ride approaching that length in fact). I've been consistently doing 100's most weekends this year, up to the occasional 115-120 - free time rather than legs have been my enemy.

I've a window to put in a decent midweek spin this week - so what's the thinking? Flatter and longer to get extra distance in the legs or a hilly hundred? Probably still going to be an either or situation due to time commitments!

smacl

Macy0161 wrote: »

I've a window to put in a decent midweek spin this week - so what's the thinking? Flatter and longer to get extra distance in the legs or a hilly hundred? Probably still going to be an either or situation due to time commitments!

I'd just get as many hours in the saddle as your time commitments allow and look to enjoy the spin myself. Long spin at a relaxed pace, if there's some hills in there too, all good.

Macy0161

smacl wrote: »

I'd just get as many hours in the saddle as your time commitments allow and look to enjoy the spin myself. Long spin at a relaxed pace, if there's some hills in there too, all good.

I don't really have much choice when it comes to "some hills" where I live fortunately/ unfortunately!

Leroy42

I'd go with the shorter, but more climbing option.

It's really about time on the bike rather than actual distance. So if you can do 150k on the flat in the same time as 100k in the hills then the time effect is the same. Basically your ass needs to get used to being stuck on the saddle for hours on end, you need to feel comfortable on the bike for that long. I would also advise at least one long cycle using the clothes/bike/shoes etc you intend to use on the day. The event is hard enough without finding half-way through that the base layer/shorts or whatever cause chaffing!

Go with the climbing option as that what is involved in W200. You need to be confident in both your ability to sustain your effort on a climb and also to be able to handle yourself with confidence on the descents.

smacl

Leroy42 wrote: »

You need to be confident in both your ability to sustain your effort on a climb and also to be able to handle yourself with confidence on the descents.

+1 on the descents. Did the Slieve Maan - Shay Elliot section a couple of weeks ago and the last couple of hundred metres of the Shay Elliot deserves a bit of caution. Dark, quite steep and lots of potholes coming up to the T-junction. First half is fine, but once you lose clear lines of sight worth taking it cautiously. Wicklow gap descent is a joy, with no hidden nasties unless there's a strong side wind.

Macy0161

The hills in general I'd know - I'd regularly do the Shay, and have done most of the others (except the Long Hill actually, I live south of it, and always tend to head south, so despite driving it most weekdays for years I've never done it on a bike!).

It's the distance/ time that's the big unknown for me really.

I'd definitely echo that on the Shay descent - a few holes before it, but after the sharp right it's a bit of a bone shaker.

Wishbone Ash

Macy0161 wrote: »

The hills in general I'd know - I'd regularly do the Shay, and have done most of the others (except the Long Hill actually, I live south of it, and always tend to head south, so despite driving it most weekdays for years I've never done it on a bike!)..

Despite its name, the Long Hill is not that long.

shamrock2004

Does anyone know if you are registered for the 100km can you step up to the 200km on the day?

smacl

shamrock2004 wrote: »

Does anyone know if you are registered for the 100km can you step up to the 200km on the day?

Yes, you don't have to decide until the route splits at Laragh.

shamrock2004

smacl wrote: »

Yes, you don't have to decide until the route splits at Laragh.

So you dont need to tell them at registration? Just get on the bike and follow the route you want? Thanks

ted1

Got my pack today.
**** just got Real.

Does the number go on the jersey or bike? I'm gueesing jersey

lissard

Pin it to the back of your jersey.

Unknown Soldier

lissard wrote: »

Pin it to the back of your jersey.

Seems to be a new type, I think you "stick" it to something, preferably a jersey... I'd imagine.

1bryan

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

Seems to be a new type, I think you "stick" it to something, preferably a jersey... I'd imagine.

theres a lovely smell off it too!

Skrynesaver

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

Seems to be a new type, I think you "stick" it to something, preferably a jersey... I'd imagine.

I thought that too but the backing seems very attached...

Macy0161

smacl wrote: »

Yes, you don't have to decide until the route splits at Laragh.

I thought that was just dropping down? I'd mention it at registration anyway, even just as a courtesy.

smacl

Macy0161 wrote: »

I thought that was just dropping down? I'd mention it at registration anyway, even just as a courtesy.

From the booklet in the entry pack 'Regardless of which route you marked on your entry form, you may ride the 200k or 100k route'. Personally, I wouldn't do the 200k unless I'd done a similar distance before, or got up to a least a hilly >120k in training at some point.

smacl

Skrynesaver wrote: »

I thought that too but the backing seems very attached...

Same. Seems a good 20 grams heavier than last years model with no noticeable performance gains. Maybe more aero?

onmebike

smacl wrote: »

Same. Seems a good 20 grams heavier than last years model with no noticeable performance gains. Maybe more aero?

That probably depends on how you attach it. Leave the top open/unsealed, and you have a very sturdy parachute on the back. Angle the bottom out a bit and you've got a bit of increased downforce. It's probably worth a visit to a wind tunnel first to suss it out!

blackvalley

For anyone riding the W200 for the first time its useful to remember a few tips. The most important I feel is to " ride it at your own pace " or marginally slower than you feel you can . Do not get sucked into joining groups that are travelling above your pace. Remember that if a group passes you then they are likely to be travelling faster than you can handle. A better option if you want company is to make an effort to catch a group that are ahead and sit in with them . Remember if you join a group where you are happy with the pace its good manners to take a turn at the front if you are able or the group are all taking turns. It will be appreciated. The one section where I feel its worth making an effort to stay with a bigger or faster group is from Hollywood to Baltinglass . That leg is on a wide open road and is usually into a headwind.
Take the first half easy , don't " fly " up the Wicklow gap and youll probably fly up out of Avoca. Keep something in the tank for the last leg from Rathdrun home. Its a tough section that can catch you out if you have overdone it earlier.
Most important enjoy the day. Its a fabulous experience and you will feel a a great sense of achievement at the finish.
Best of luck:)

Unknown Soldier

For anyone else who is under the illusion that this is in two weeks time, it's not.

It is this coming weekend

I miscalcu'mulated.

Can anyone recall where all the water (and Gel?) stops were? Not the main stops.

There was one at the top of the Wicklow gap and one up the top of a mountain after Slieve Mann?

Were there more water fill up points?

lissard

Water stops on the Wicklow Gap, Sliamh Maan and if I remember correctly there might have been one at the top of the hill out of Avoca. There's a coffee van at the top of the Shay Elliott.

Hauki

Are there any public transport options available to make it to Greystones by 06.30 from Dublin with the bike? Trains wont run before 9am or so and doing the extra 50k in the dawn just doesn't sound too appealing.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Hauki wrote:

Are there any public transport options available to make it to Greystones by 06.30 from Dublin with the bike? Trains wont run before 9am or so and doing the extra 50k in the dawn just doesn't sound too appealing.

Driving from Dublin, I passed by lads cycling down to greystones last year. Warming up I guess, the fit feckers...

The Davestator

Hauki wrote: »

Are there any public transport options available to make it to Greystones by 06.30 from Dublin with the bike? Trains wont run before 9am or so and doing the extra 50k in the dawn just doesn't sound too appealing.

I've room for one person & bike. I'l be picking the brother up in Phibsboro around 6:30 am if you want a lift

Eponymous

Lyanna Rotten Creek wrote: »

Driving from Dublin, I passed by lads cycling down to greystones last year. Warming up I guess, the fit feckers...

I go to the gym in Shoreline, went down last year to do some cardio forgetting that WW200 was on. Got talking to a guy in the carpark who had cycled from Dublin, did the 200 and was just about to hop back on his bike and go back to Dublin. I thought he was taking the pi$$ at the time, but having seen some strava rides and reading about you buggers doing Hell, it doesn't seem so bad now!

nilhg

Two years ago I couldn't figure out why one lad that was in our group had a mad load of lights and a big backpack, turned out it was James "seamus" Smith, he'd cycled down from Bailieborough, did the WW200 and than headed on home, part of his training for the RAI.

That's the beauty of the WW200, you never know whose company you're keeping

billyhead

Eponymous wrote: »

I go to the gym in Shoreline, went down last year to do some cardio forgetting that WW200 was on. Got talking to a guy in the carpark who had cycled from Dublin, did the 200 and was just about to hop back on his bike and go back to Dublin. I thought he was taking the pi$$ at the time, but having seen some strava rides and reading about you buggers doing Hell, it doesn't seem so bad now!

Might have been Wishbone_Ash. Last year he cycled about 30km I think to the start as a warm up and then home another 30km as a warm down.:D

Wishbone Ash

billyhead wrote: »

Might have been Wishbone_Ash. Last year he cycled about 30km I think to the start as a warm up and then home another 30km as a warm down.:D

It was 60k to the startline and another 60k home again. One of those great days in the saddle when you just want to go on all night (but I had to show my face at home).

https://www.strava.com/activities/320598735

nilhg wrote: »

Two years ago I couldn't figure out why one lad that was in our group had a mad load of lights and a big backpack, turned out it was James "seamus" Smith, he'd cycled down from Bailieborough, did the WW200 and than headed on home, part of his training for the RAI.

You're not too far behind the legendary Mr Smith yourself nilhg! I was looking at your Mizen to Malin in a single ride on Strava the other night - inspirational stuff!

DS2013

Did anyone else get an email asking them to send their wicklow 200 number and card to someone else? I am going to post it tomorrow so it should arrive in time. I am wondering about my own number and card because my postman only seems to deliver letters every few days. I assume it will be fine to turn up on the day without a number and card?

nilhg

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

You're not too far behind the legendary Mr Smith yourself nilhg! I was looking at your Mizen to Malin in a single ride on Strava the other night - inspirational stuff!

That's what happens, you go to do a nice handy WW200 and you finish up signed up to something a bit mad.

I've been watching your M2M all week and saying to myself, that's the way to do it, take the scenic route and keep civilised hours.

BTW we met Joe Barr on his way down en route to breaking the M2M2M non stop record, that's inspirational stuff

Wishbone Ash

nilhg wrote: »

....I've been watching your M2M all week and saying to myself, that's the way to do it, take the scenic route and keep civilised hours.

I was with a group of mixed abilities so was obliged to regroup regularly and follow the itinerary but I would have easily been capable of doing it in 3 or even 2 days. Perhaps some time in the future.

nilhg wrote:

...BTW we met Joe Barr on his way down en route to breaking the M2M2M non stop record, that's inspirational stuff

I was thinking of him regularly during the trip and still can't get my head around him doing those 1250k in 49 hours practically non stop. There was footage up on YouTube for a while but it was then removed. No arsing around when he got to Mizen, he paused for a few seconds and then straight back up the road again!

efwren

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but I am doing the Wicklow 100 for the first time on Sunday.

Just wondering what time do people typically start at? I dont neccessarily want to start at 7 but I would like to get into a group to do a bit of drafting and share the work for a good deal of the time

Cheers

saccades

Being slower than average when I was planning and quite cautious I set off about 6, which meant I got to the first waterstop before 10 and more importantly, before the crowds (queues).

Also meant I could tag along on groups (would fall off the back on steep climbs) as I went along.

That was for the 200 though, there were loads of small clumps leaving at that time, although it might be harder to get a group whose speed matches yours.

Wishbone Ash

efwren wrote: »

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but I am doing the Wicklow 100 for the first time on Sunday.

Just wondering what time do people typically start at? I dont neccessarily want to start at 7 but I would like to get into a group to do a bit of drafting and share the work for a good deal of the time

Cheers

You won't know if those around you are doing the 100 or 200 until you get to Laragh as its the same route until then.

blackvalley

efwren wrote: »

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but I am doing the Wicklow 100 for the first time on Sunday.

Just wondering what time do people typically start at? I dont neccessarily want to start at 7 but I would like to get into a group to do a bit of drafting and share the work for a good deal of the time

Cheers

Riders set off anywhere between six and eight but the majority leave about seven.

efwren

Thanks everybody for the feedback...I'll aim to leave as close to seven as possible so

The Davestator

Can anyone tell me where the food stops (distance) are. The cycle goes past my Granny's front door so want to stop for a quick hi, but if its close to a food stop, I'll just have lunch with her!

lissard

The food stops are in Baltinglass (~80k) and Rathdrum (~145k).

saccades

If you don't start too early there are the powerbar lads at the top of the Wicklow Gap, then the main stop at 80km (if your doing the 200km) where you have to sign in to let them know you are doing the 200km (I forget the name of the place).

Then it's at the top of Shay elliot for another water/powerbar stop and the main feed stop (for both 100 & 200km) is in Rathdrum.

Pretty sure that's it.

Wishbone Ash

There's also an unofficial stop on the top of the Wicklow Gap with snacks available to purchase.

Eponymous

Steven in Cycleplus posted up on Facebook that they aren't offering safety checks or a pop-up shop on the day in the hall at Shoreline this year. Doesn't say why.

Just if you were hoping to avail of either service on the day, you'll have to revise your plan.

1bryan

DS2013 wrote: »

Did anyone else get an email asking them to send their wicklow 200 number and card to someone else? I am going to post it tomorrow so it should arrive in time. I am wondering about my own number and card because my postman only seems to deliver letters every few days. I assume it will be fine to turn up on the day without a number and card?

I haven't gotten a single e-mail from them. Thats in contrast to other years where they'd send you an e-mail every few weeks in the lead-up to the event.