Are Irish parents ignorant

andrea1983

of the dangers of choking and asphyxiation?

I keep seeing kids wearing these amber necklaces for "teething"

It really is dangerous nonsense...

sbsquarepants

They're a bit idiotic alright - but then again a lot of people are idiots, so there is a niche there to be exploited!

Story Bud?

I'm so ignorant I don't even know what an amber teething necklace is.

A_Sober_Paddy

They are of homeopathic design too, so utter useless

maudgonner

Are certain posters ignorant




of how to title a thread properly?

andrea1983

maudgonner wrote: »

Are certain posters ignorant




of how to title a thread properly?

:eek:

It's like clickbait...get's the people talking

maudgonner

andrea1983 wrote: »

:eek:

It's like clickbait...get's the people talking

And I think the same of this thread as I do of clickbait articles.

andrea1983

I'm raising a really important point and generating discussion and knowledge. you're sarkiness in not appreciated



































lol jk

Look, I'm just trying to generate a bit of discussion and a bit of awareness.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Am I in the parenting forum by mistake

osarusan

The Paul Costelloe teething necklace has bits of dinosaur DNA in every piece of amber.

andrea1983

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Am I in the parenting forum by mistake

can you link that up for me and i'll post in there 2

Boom_Bap

andrea1983 wrote: »

can you link that up for me and i'll post in there 2

Please don't put the same thread accross multiple forums

LordSutch

andrea1983 wrote: »

I'm raising a really important point and generating discussion and knowledge.

This is the first I've heard about this, please tell more and maybe a picture of the necklace?

Is it a homoeopathic thing?

I have young kids, so this might concern me.

andrea1983

:eek:

rrrigghhht lord sutch

the thing is

it's a necklace

Made of amber

That's all. Kids shouldn't wear anything around the neck. simples

LordSutch

OK, I was just asking . . . ..

Bye.

SEPT 23 1989

I cut all the strings on my blinds to avoid all the blind related chokings and asphyxiations

Do i win a prize?

Samaris

LordSutch wrote: »

This is the first I've heard about this, please tell more and maybe a picture of the necklace?

Is it a homoeopathic thing?

I have young kids, so this might concern me.

Well, as everyone knows, amber is a link to the ancient wisdom of our ancestors, particularly those of a drosophilic nature. As your child wears the necklace, the sap of trees that lived millennia ago, they will absorb the ancient spirit of the tree and learn the inner secrets of the vast forests.

As their teeth grow, so will their oneness with the lifeforce of all things.

Or maybe it's a necklace to chew on, one or the other.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/151648815609 <- necklace of oneness with the ancients.

DavyD_83

Although they have been banned by certain bodies due to a perceived risk, there has never been any record of a single injury or death caused by them.
As far as I am aware, the safety concerns are actually more linked to the possibility of the baby swallowing a bead, than any choking issue (although that may be because I have read more about bracelets than necklaces.

As a parent of a baby who presented with really bad teething symptoms over a long time, (later attributed to the fact she is coeliac), we were willing to give the amber a go. She wore the ankle bracelet (anklet?) for a few months, I honestly don't know if it helped, but I really don't think it did any harm or in any way put my daughters health at risk.

There are a hundred more dangerous things in any normal Irish house, and no I'm not saying they are the things we should panic about, I'm saying we need to assess and limit risks where possible, but cannot eliminate them altogether.

I do not know if the amber actually helps, or is a placebo for parents, but parents will continue to do what they can to relieve their child's pain, no matter how illogical.

Homeopathic necklaces for children made of amber. Sounds pretty. Apart from the homeopathic bit.

Shíte. Just remembered I bought my godchild necklaces in Penny's.

These are dangerous times we live in.

Badly Drunk Boy

These things are bad. The childer are sucking on the amber necklaces, not knowing that it's a gateway to more serious things, like sucking on amber traffic lights. The clever folk of Leitrim were right to get rid of their set of traffic lights! Succinic acid is baaaad, m'kay?

muddypaws

They aren't just on sale in Ireland though, I have friends in the UK and Australia who also use them.

andrea1983

DavyD_83 wrote: »

Although they have been banned by certain bodies due to a perceived risk, there has never been any record of a single injury or death caused by them.
As far as I am aware, the safety concerns are actually more linked to the possibility of the baby swallowing a bead, than any choking issue (although that may be because I have read more about bracelets than necklaces.

As a parent of a baby who presented with really bad teething symptoms over a long time, (later attributed to the fact she is coeliac), we were willing to give the amber a go. She wore the ankle bracelet (anklet?) for a few months, I honestly don't know if it helped, but I really don't think it did any harm or in any way put my daughters health at risk.

There are a hundred more dangerous things in any normal Irish house, and no I'm not saying they are the things we should panic about, I'm saying we need to assess and limit risks where possible, but cannot eliminate them altogether.

I do not know if the amber actually helps, or is a placebo for parents, but parents will continue to do what they can to relieve their child's pain, no matter how illogical.

I'm not sure if i should just give up at this stage....

osarusan

andrea1983 wrote: »

I'm not sure if i should just give up at this stage....

I think you should.

andrea1983

osarusan wrote: »

I think you should.

no

It's important to educate people

FunLover18

Deleted User wrote: »

Homeopathic necklaces for children made of amber. Sounds pretty. Apart from the homeopathic bit.

Shíte. Just remembered I bought my godchild necklaces in Penny's.

These are dangerous times we live in.

Godparents are allowed be ignorant though, we get them the inappropriate/dangerous presents and the real parents confiscate them after we leave.

cbyrd

andrea1983 wrote:

I'm not sure if i should just give up at this stage....

Ya, you probably should, this has been done to multiple deaths (not of a choking variety from a necklace) over on the parenting forum.

Anyone with kids knows that once the hand to mouth coordination kicks in, everything's a choking hazard.. apparently, grapes now have to be sliced going to school.

Here's a good one though.. my 4 year old swallowed a 1.5 inch screw last year... 2 nights in hospital, 4 xrays, came out by itself 5 days later, no harm done... so a little bead wouldn't phase me now!

I detest the judgemental side of some parents.. just cos it's different doesn't make it wrong. If you don't want YOUR kids to choke on an Amber bead, don't put them on your child ..
Each bead is separately attached so even if they did break the cord, it's not going to result in a splatter of beads..now I must go pick up the Lego before the 18 months old wakes up and eats it..

FunLover18

FunLover18 wrote: »

Godparents are allowed be ignorant though, we get them the inappropriate/dangerous presents and the real parents confiscate them after we leave.

Yes and feed them full of lovely fizz and chocolate so we all have a great time bouncing around the place. Then it all becomes too much for me and I go home

andrea1983

cbyrd wrote: »

Ya, you probably should, this has been done to multiple deaths (not of a choking variety from a necklace) over on the parenting forum.

Anyone with kids knows that once the hand to mouth coordination kicks in, everything's a choking hazard.. apparently, grapes now have to be sliced going to school.

Here's a good one though.. my 4 year old swallowed a 1.5 inch screw last year... 2 nights in hospital, 4 xrays, came out by itself 5 days later, no harm done... so a little bead wouldn't phase me now!

I detest the judgemental side of some parents.. just cos it's different doesn't make it wrong. If you don't want YOUR kids to choke on an Amber bead, don't put them on your child ..
Each bead is separately attached so even if they did break the cord, it's not going to result in a splatter of beads..now I must go pick up the Lego before the 18 months old wakes up and eats it..

No it's not that i'm judgemental or a parent

Just that i think it's negligent to put a child in the line of harm

you say that just because it's different doesn't make it wrong

It's not the fact that it's different and scientifically illiterate . It's the fact that its' dangerous that makes it wrong. Look at pubmed if you wan to see case reports

cbyrd

andrea1983 wrote:

No it's not that i'm judgemental or a parent

The very title of your thread is judgemental. If you can post me a link to an Amber necklace related death to support your argument, come back to me, otherwise I'll be out in the playground hoovering up the stones my little one likes to chew on...

andrea1983

cbyrd wrote: »

The very title of your thread is judgemental. If you can post me a link to an Amber necklace related death to support your argument, come back to me, otherwise I'll be out in the playground hoovering up the stones my little one likes to chew on...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/amber-teething-necklace-warning-after-toddler-nearly-strangled/news-story/92f5e9585cea634d417598745049ae96

**** it just keep using them until someone dies. Nearly just isn't good enough eh?

Eugene Norman

There is a law of thread titles.

If the thread title begins with a question the answer is no. Or "no, stupid question"

Timberrrrrrrr

Eugene Norman wrote: »

There is a law of thread titles.

If the thread title begins with a question the answer is no. Or "no, stupid question"

Seeing more and more of these lately, mods should just nuke the titles and put in something appropriate.

LordSutch

Samaris wrote: »

Well, as everyone knows, amber is a link to the ancient wisdom of our ancestors, particularly those of a drosophilic nature. As your child wears the necklace, the sap of trees that lived millennia ago, they will absorb the ancient spirit of the tree and learn the inner secrets of the vast forests.

As their teeth grow, so will their oneness with the lifeforce of all things.

Or maybe it's a necklace to chew on, one or the other.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/151648815609 <- necklace of oneness with the ancients.

In other words, it's rubbish!

hairyslug

I miss being a kid, being put in the back seat of the car, no belt or nothing.

My young lad used to love chewing on the end of phone charging cables, he must have got some buzz of it, but christ it ruined enough phones on me.

sbsquarepants

cbyrd wrote: »

I detest the judgemental side of some parents.. just cos it's different doesn't make it wrong. If you don't want YOUR kids to choke on an Amber bead, don't put them on your child ..
Each bead is separately attached so even if they did break the cord, it's not going to result in a splatter of beads..now I must go pick up the Lego before the 18 months old wakes up and eats it..

What makes them wrong is the fact that they just don't work.
If you want to put a necklace on your child because you think it looks good, have at, it's no ones business but your own.
If you want to put a necklace on your child because it's magic, then you're an idiot.

AnonoBoy

I only heard of this Amber Teething person when she and Johnny Depp were made to record that silly dog video by the Australian government.

What's she up to now?

hairyslug

hairyslug wrote: »

I miss being a kid, being put in the back seat of the car, no belt or nothing.

My young lad used to love chewing on the end of phone charging cables, he must have got some buzz of it, but christ it ruined enough phones on me.

I used to sit on my mammy's knee in the car!!

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I used to sit on my mammy's knee in the car!!

Car?

Posh feckers, I actually had to WALK to school on my own!

FunLover18

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes and feed them full of lovely fizz and chocolate so we all have a great time bouncing around the place. Then it all becomes too much for me and I go home

And let's not forget "accidentally" teaching them swear words.

looksee

Samaris wrote: »

Well, as everyone knows, amber is a link to the ancient wisdom of our ancestors, particularly those of a drosophilic nature. As your child wears the necklace, the sap of trees that lived millennia ago, they will absorb the ancient spirit of the tree and learn the inner secrets of the vast forests.

As their teeth grow, so will their oneness with the lifeforce of all things.

Or maybe it's a necklace to chew on, one or the other.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/151648815609 <- necklace of oneness with the ancients.

Now there's a word I had never heard before.

andrea1983

Eugene Norman wrote: »

There is a law of thread titles.

If the thread title begins with a question the answer is no. Or "no, stupid question"

Did you make up that law?

if it does exist outside of you're imaginiation, thisis the exception

Captain Slow IRL

andrea1983 wrote: »

No it's not that i'm judgemental or a parent.......

You are judgemental or you're just here to troll.

cbyrd

andrea1983 wrote:

**** it just keep using them until someone dies. Nearly just isn't good enough eh?

No.. nearly never won the race..

I nearly won the lotto once...

And your link completely nullified your title cos that person is Australian .. she put the necklace on her child, inappropriate size if she could get her arm into it.. and she wants someone else to blame.

Rules in Ireland are much stricter regarding Amber necklaces.. you can't buy them over the counter and they can't be worn in creches or playschools.
Your inexperience makes your argument void.

s4uv3

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I used to sit on my mammy's knee in the car!!

I used to sit on my Dads knee and steer. I was a BIG GIRL NOW

Samaris

looksee wrote: »

Now there's a word I had never heard before.

I may have made up that usage. But basically, it's got flies in it :pac:

andrea1983

cbyrd wrote: »

No.. nearly never won the race..

I nearly won the lotto once...

And your link completely nullified your title cos that person is Australian .. she put the necklace on her child, inappropriate size if she could get her arm into it.. and she wants someone else to blame.

Rules in Ireland are much stricter regarding Amber necklaces.. you can't buy them over the counter and they can't be worn in creches or playschools.
Your inexperience makes your argument void.

does that not suggest that they're dangerous ?

Why do you allow your child access to an asphyxiation and choking risk ?

If you can't buy them overthe counter how do you buy them? do yuou need a prescription from your locla friendly amber doctor ? your talking nonsense

andrea1983

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

You are judgemental or you're just here to troll.

I've made no judgments

i've made factual observations

cbyrd

They're available to purchase online. I've never once stated that my child wears one... The are not allowed in creches specifically for the choking hazard associated with the beads splitting or falling off. And insurance policies.

Please go home and do some research on the subject. You have called Irish parents ignorant but yet when it's pointed out to you that this is an AUSTRALIAN article, that has no bearing on Irish standards you throw out yet more insults... You've been called out , get over it.

andrea1983

cbyrd wrote: »

They're available to purchase online. I've never once stated that my child wears one... The are not allowed in creches specifically for the choking hazard associated with the beads splitting or falling off. And insurance policies.

Please go home and do some research on the subject. You have called Irish parents ignorant but yet when it's pointed out to you that this is an AUSTRALIAN article, that has no bearing on Irish standards you throw out yet more insults... You've been called out , get over it.

Also availabel to purchase in many stores .

clearly many educated and knowledgeable people agree that they shouldn't be used (autstralia, crehces, insurers)

Can you show me where its writtne that they are banned for choking risk in crehces and that it's not hing to do with #risk of strangluyation or # asphyxia??

i simply asked the question.

It seems the ignorant part is pehraps true .

Mam of 4

Most parents I know who have used Amber Beads as an aide to help ease the pain of teething , have used the Anklet or Bracelet. Anklet normally covered with the babys' sock , the bracelet with the babys vest sleeve or long sleeved top.

All items are available in different sizes , so I'm sure most parents have checked to make sure their child cannot remove the anklet/bracelet themselves .I doubt many parents would knowingly put their child in deliberate harms way and would remove the amber beads if they thought there was ANY potential of harm coming to their child.

Just my opinion.

Lyaiera

When my kids were teething a drop of brandy and a benson and hedges always made them feel better.