Formula 1 2016: Round 6 - Monaco Grand Prix

Zcott

Monaco time! :-)

El_Duderino 09

What's the weather like for the weekend?

skipper_G

Chance of rain according to the BBC Weather

Myrddin

I always get reminded of Schumachers pole lap here from 2012 when I see Monaco now. Ok I know it technically wasn't a pole lap because of a grid penalty that he had incurred in the previous race, but that aside, it was a masterful piece of driving. His second career was largely fraught with misfortune, some errors near the start, and unreliability...but that day in 2012 he showed that he still had it. At 43 years old, he took a very middling Mercedes around Monaco faster than anyone else could. It was a real treat to watch that live.

"The Master of Monaco"

Spudman_20000

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/36386903

Hamilton totally dominates first practice.....by one tenth of a second.

Totally unbiased reporting there by Andrew Benson as usual.:)

El_Duderino 09

A manhole cover became dislodged and damaged 2 cars. Can we finally take this track out and shoot it please?

Think I'll probably keep the coverage on mute until the racing to avoid hearing the term 'glitz and glamour'.

Given how boring the race is, and the coverage devoted to glitz, yachts, parties and glamour, wouldn't the Expose team on TV3 be best equipped to cover the weekend?

Snoozy-snooze

HighLine

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

A manhole cover became dislodged and damaged 2 cars. Can we finally take this track out and shoot it please?

Think I'll probably keep the coverage on mute until the racing to avoid hearing the term 'glitz and glamour'.

Given how boring the race is, and the coverage devoted to glitz, yachts, parties and glamour, wouldn't the Expose team on TV3 be best equipped to cover the weekend?

Snoozy-snooze

You want to end the Monaco Grand Prix because a manhole cover became loose? Come on now.

If you hate it so much .. probably best to avoid this thread because most others seem to enjoy the race and qualifying.

Myrddin

HighLine wrote: »

You want to end the Monaco Grand Prix because a manhole cover became loose? Come on now.

It is almost universally a truly awful 'race' to watch though. The only chance of any excitement, is someone messing up & clipping the barrier.

If you hate it so much .. probably best to avoid this thread because most others seem to enjoy the race and qualifying.

Hmm, not so sure...it's a spectacle all right and a real test of driver ability/accuracy...but as a race, man it's bloody boring.

El_Duderino 09

HighLine wrote:

You want to end the Monaco Grand Prix because a manhole cover became loose? Come on now.

As a manhole bacame loose during the race a few years ago. The main reason I want rid of it is because it a track that isn't fit for purpose. Manholes aside, it's out of date and it leads to boring races.

How could someone complain about the lack of overtaking in F1, and enjoy the Monaco GP? The only good thing is the camera can get so close to the cars. Other than that it's super boring racing.

HighLine wrote:

If you hate it so much .. probably best to avoid this thread because most others seem to enjoy the race and qualifying.

Do they? I hear the media tell us how it's a fan favourite. I've never spoken to anyone who enjoys the actual race above all other races, mostly because of the fact that overtaking is so difficult

Red Kev

Monaco in the wet is the best race on the calendar, bar none. Time to do the rain dance!!

Irony isn't lost that due to strikes at refineries there's fuel rationing in most of France at the moment.

El_Duderino 09

Red Kev wrote:

Monaco in the wet is the best race on the calendar, bar none. Time to do the rain dance!!

Any race in the rain is more memorable that a dry race at the same track. Partly because of the added danger, unpredictability and how rare wet races are. You wouldn't want it every race or form would become meaningless.

Street tracks in the rain are something different to be fair. Definately not worth keeping it to watch 9 snooze fests, waiting for one wet race where anything can happen - even an interesting race!

HighLine

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

As a manhole bacame loose during the race a few years ago. The main reason I want rid of it is because it a track that isn't fit for purpose. Manholes aside, it's out of date and it leads to boring races.

How could someone complain about the lack of overtaking in F1, and enjoy the Monaco GP? The only good thing is the camera can get so close to the cars. Other than that it's super boring racing.



Do they? I hear the media tell us how it's a fan favourite. I've never spoken to anyone who enjoys the actual race above all other races, mostly because of the fact that overtaking is so difficult

There was talk of rain for Sunday so hopefully that will come along to spice things up a little.

The manhole thing could have been very nasty - Jenson was a lucky boy!

https://twitter.com/trodders81/status/735770099945115648

skipper_G

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/36386903

Hamilton totally dominates first practice.....by one tenth of a second.

Totally unbiased reporting there by Andrew Benson as usual.:)

This is an article about first practice....... :eek:

"From Hamilton, it was the sort of performance that defines an image, that will be remembered down the years as illustrative of a towering talent."

Is this some strange form of fellatio with the written word from Benson ?

Harika

Riccardo smashed Hamiltons times now with a 1:14.6 so RedBull seem to be in the mix for at least a podium. Curious what Bensons headline now will be. :pac:

HighLine

Whatever about people's opinions of the race being boring - the parts I have seen of practice 1 & 2 have been epic. Cars hitting barriers left, right and centre. Ricciardo on the absolute limit. Brundle was commentating from the Nouvelle chicane and you would swear it was the last lap of a world championship deciding finale. Great to hear him still be genuinely excited for the job he does.

Now all we need is for Ricciardo to stick it on pole on Saturday and some light rain for Sunday.

Andrew76

Harika wrote: »

Riccardo smashed Hamiltons times now with a 1:14.6 so RedBull seem to be in the mix for at least a podium. Curious what Bensons headline now will be. :pac:

Fingers crossed they will be but let's wait and see what happens in Q3.

Don't the Mercs always sandbag during practice? Granted their engine won't make as much a difference here (and Ricciardo has an engine upgrade) but they still have the best overall package. Looking forward to quali. Hopefully Max can stick it on the second row or better.

Harika

IMO Red Bull are there to challenge Mercedes. Need to wait later for a long run analysis, so far Riccardo already 36 laps on one set of ultrasoft. But in practice both RB and Mercedes are within one second followed by the Toro Rosso. Vettel crashed and Kimi is also not close to them.

HighLine

Seems like the new RedBull power unit works well.

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/735825553505329152

Myrddin

Monaco coming at the right time so for RB. I'm not getting too excited just yet, Monaco is an anomaly of a track & can make things look very different to how they really are. If they're challenging the Merc after Monaco, I'll be delighted

Mike Litoris

Wow that's an impressive improvement! :eek: I feckin missed the actual session. Got in from work and only FP1 recorded.:(

Mike Litoris

Myrddin wrote: »

Monaco coming at the right time so for RB. I'm not getting too excited just yet, Monaco is an anomoly of a track & can make things look very different to how they really are. If they're challenging the Merc after Monaco, I'll be delighted

It's tough not to get excited though. The next race in Canada should give a good idea where they are in general. That said, there are at least 5 more races this season, where top speed isn't as important, where they could take it to Merc. Hungary, Mexico, Austria etc should be good for them.

Myrddin

Mike Litoris wrote: »

It's tough not to get excited though. The next race in Canada should give a good idea where they are in general. That said, there are at least 5 more races this season, where top speed isn't as important, where they could take it to Merc. Hungary, Mexico, Austria etc should be good for them.

Monaco though, the podium will in all honesty be largely decided on Saturday. Track position is the key to winning the race. The only other track like it in that regard is Singapore. They certainly seemed to be able for the Ferrari's in Spain, so with the new upgrade, here's hoping

Andrew76

Myrddin wrote: »

Monaco though, the podium will in all honesty be largely decided on Saturday. Track position is the key to winning the race.

Unless your name is Lewis Hamilton and your team cock up a safety car period in the last few laps of the race! :pac:

ricimaki

Andrew76 wrote: »

Unless your name is Lewis Hamilton and your team cock up a safety car period in the last few laps of the race! :pac:

In fairness, that wasn't entirely Mercedes' fault. The team should have told him to stay out, but Lewis wanted to pit too. Lewis didn't take a single bit of responsibility afterwards!

Whatever about Ricciardo potentially being in a position to win, I'm very impressed with where Torro Rosso finished in FP2. Kvyat was only 2 and a half tenths behind Verstappen!

Myrddin

ricimaki wrote: »

In fairness, that wasn't entirely Mercedes' fault. The team should have told him to stay out, but Lewis wanted to pit too. Lewis didn't take a single bit of responsibility afterwards!

From memory, the team couldn't tell him where Nico was...so he had to make the decision without some very crucial information. I gather that was the source of his frustration.

Whatever about Ricciardo potentially being in a position to win, I'm very impressed with where Torro Rosso finished in FP2. Kvyat was only 2 and a half tenths behind Verstappen!

Indeed, I'd say Kvyat will be all guns blazing on Sunday

Jordan 199

Ricciardo is gonna win on Sunday. End of.

skipper_G

OSI wrote: »

There's gonna be a mass shooting in Maranello soon.

Not far off! They have so many financial advantages but still no results to show. I despise red bull as a team but come on big Dan! Would love for him to nick a win this weekend

Zcott

Looks like it'll be a good race. Looking forward to qualifying to see what Mercedes have in reserve.

Myrddin

Zcott wrote: »

Looks like it'll be a good race. Looking forward to qualifying to see what Mercedes have in reserve.

I reckon they're holding back, but not by the normal amount. Red Bull once again look genuinely impressive, so who knows. FP3 will give a closer indication of what to expect for Quali, but I'm half leaning towards thinking that Ricciardo might just nick pole

Myrddin

Re Massa wiping out in FP1...wasn't it he who wiped out in fp1 AND fp2 at the exact same spot one year here at Monaco?

Charlie-Bravo

Massa is a 'Devote' Christian, he blesses himself every time he passes a church. He should keep both hands on the steering wheel :pac:

Jordan 199

The last time Ferrari won at Monaco was fifteen years ago :eek:

It was the great Michael Schumacher who won.

Itssoeasy

A few pound floating in the harbour.

Itssoeasy

That didn't last long.

Kxiii

Red flag already

bnt

Button and Kvyat have both done more than enough to get to Q2, it seems. Kimi needs a good place, though, he has a 5-place penalty because of a gearbox change.

edit: Oh, Max ... cut that corner too fine.

Itssoeasy

Did I miss something or has verstappen not put a lap in ?

Kxiii

Verstapen in the wall

TheDoctor

Max down to earth with a bump

Itssoeasy

Well there we go.

johnnysmack

Jeez he hit the barrier pretty hard there!

Itssoeasy

Id say it must be fierce intimidating to drive a f1 car around Monaco for the first time.

Itssoeasy

johnnysmack wrote: »

Jeez he hit the barrier pretty hard there!

He hit the barrier before the wall.

bnt

johnnysmack wrote: »

Jeez he hit the barrier pretty hard there!

Excellent slo-mo shot there, easy to see exactly what happened.

TheDoctor

Assume Kvyat will be promoted back up now

Ghost Train

Second time today I've hear sky team call is "safer barrier" instead of "tech-pro"

Second time today Max hits barrier, wonder is he just over driving for some reason

skipper_G

The slow mo replay of max clipping the first barrier was amazing. That milisecond where his suspension broke was a great camera shot.

Shame he's out but he got a bit greedy in the corner and got punished. The one good thing Monaco has is no massive run off areas

flazio

Just seen a replay of the Magneussen jumped red. Looks like it was as the session was Red flagged

TheDoctor

Rosberg nearly does a Max

skipper_G

Smashing lap from Ricciardo on the super soft. He'll start the race on them while others around will start on the ultra soft then

donspeekinglesh

Ghost Train wrote: »

Second time today I've hear sky team call is "safer barrier" instead of "tech-pro"

They're two different types of barrier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAFER_barrier?wprov=sfla1