Wearing a skirt

Ohbethehokey

There's a male student who wants to wear a skirt.


Is men wearing skirts acceptable in your workplace?


I'm sure the lobby groups will be jumping up and down so he can have his cake.

My suggestion is they should make all the boys in the school wear skirts and full make-up as part of the new uniform policy.

Shenshen

Never understood why it's unacceptable for guys to wear skirts - what are people worried about?

alchemist33

He can only wear it with a fetching baby-blue blouse accessorised by a pearl necklace

s4uv3

Why shouldn't he?
Genuine question.

Ohbethehokey

s4uv3 wrote: »

Why shouldn't he?
Genuine question.

No one said he shouldn't, in fact my suggestion was all the lads should wear skirts

JustShon

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

No one said he shouldn't, in fact my suggestion was all the lads should wear skirts

Because that suggestion wasn't sarcastic at all :rolleyes:

Shenshen

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

No one said he shouldn't, in fact my suggestion was all the lads should wear skirts

How about we let people decide what they feel comfortable wearing? Or is that too left-wing?

osarusan

There's a lobby that gets cake for students?

Sweet.

s4uv3

osarusan wrote: »

There's a lobby that gets cake for students?

Sweet.

Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby
And get ourselves some cake.....

osarusan

s4uv3 wrote: »

Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby
And get ourselves some cake.....

Oh, the cake is in the lobby. OK, that makes more sense.

Speedwell

Men wearing skirts acceptable in my workplace? I work from home, so sure.

When I worked in the oil industry, it was not uncommon to have Middle Eastern men in robes at work, particularly when I was actually in the Middle East (since that was my workplace too). Not to mention the occasional cheeky bastard in Aberdeen deciding to be all ethnic and stuff.

Would I be OK with men wearing skirts at work? So long as they didn't show underwear when they bent over or sat down, fine. I would say the same for women.

Ohbethehokey

Shenshen wrote: »

How about we let people decide what they feel comfortable wearing? Or is that too left-wing?

So abolish school uniforms and work uniforms altogether?

osarusan

Speedwell wrote: »

Would I be OK with men wearing skirts at work? So long as they didn't show underwear when they bent over or sat down, fine. I would say the same for women.

Timberrrrrrrr

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

There's a male student who wants to wear a skirt.


Is men wearing skirts acceptable in your workplace?


I'm sure the lobby groups will be jumping up and down so he can have his cake.

My suggestion is they should make all the boys in the school wear skirts and full make-up as part of the new uniform policy.

You sound like you have an issue with this, care to tell us why it would/should be unacceptable ?

Duggy747

Feels like OP has quite an issue with this, what in particular would be wrong with it?

RoyalMarine

There's a sexy black number in penny's. I must buy it and wear it to the office this week. I'm sure it will be accepted.

Do I need to shave my legs first?

Shenshen

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

So abolish school uniforms and work uniforms altogether?

I never understood school uniforms - we don't have them where I'm from, and I find them a very odd thing to say the least.

Work uniforms I understand. In some jobs, people need to be able to identify you and your role on sight. So where there's an obvious, sensible purpose to the uniform, by all means keep them. But I'm not sure a student would have to be in uniform so that people know he's a student? Why would the university require that?

If there are uniforms, they should really be the same for all - skirts for all, or trousers for all, or free to choose for all.

beach_walker

Shenshen wrote: »

Never understood why it's unacceptable for guys to wear skirts - what are people worried about?

Meh, I think you're hyping it a bit. Most schools have a uniform/dress-code, personally I think it's a good system. I wouldn't describe the school I went to as being "worried" about us wearing track-suits, non-blue shirts etc.

OP I see men in kilts everyday. Meh, no biggie. It's a societal/fashion thing but I'm sure this kind of thing will be hoped on.

Shenshen

beach_walker wrote: »

Meh, I think you're hyping it a bit. Most schools have a uniform/dress-code, personally I think it's a good system. I wouldn't describe the school I went to as being "worried" about us wearing track-suits, non-blue shirts etc.

OP I see men in kilts everyday. Meh, no biggie. It's a societal/fashion thing but I'm sure this kind of thing will be hoped on.

Most schools here do, yes. I don't think any school where I'm from does, though. I've never heard of one, anyway.
And I assumed "student" means a person attending a university?

Speedwell

I gave it a bit of a good hard think, and I cannot imagine any job in which wearing a skirt is absolutely required by the nature of the job. (Well, maybe hula dancer.) Other than that I think they're generally a nuisance, uncomfortable, revealing, and impractical for desk work and manual labour alike.

osarusan

Shenshen wrote: »

I never understood school uniforms - we don't have them where I'm from, and I find them a very odd thing to say the least.

Work uniforms I understand. In some jobs, people need to be able to identify you and your role on sight. So where there's an obvious, sensible purpose to the uniform, by all means keep them. But I'm not sure a student would have to be in uniform so that people know he's a student?

I think one benefit is that people are less likely to get stressed out about what to wear and there's not as much competition about looking great and wearing expensive clothes. Not so much financial pressure on their parents either.

jamesbere

RoyalMarine wrote: »

There's a sexy black number in penny's. I must buy it and wear it to the office this week. I'm sure it will be accepted.

Do I need to shave my legs first?

Don't bother shaving, looks very appealing in a skirt

beach_walker

Shenshen wrote: »

I never understood school uniforms - we don't have them where I'm from, and I find them a very odd thing to say the least.

It's a good leveller. Speaking as someone who went to a school where there was a fair wealth divide in student's background, I'm glad it was implemented. Lessens school fashion contests, lessens bullying opportunities, and ( :pac: ) allows local businesses to readily identify and report trouble-making students to the right school!

Shenshen

Speedwell wrote: »

I gave it a bit of a good hard think, and I cannot imagine any job in which wearing a skirt is absolutely required by the nature of the job. (Well, maybe hula dancer.) Other than that I think they're generally a nuisance, uncomfortable, revealing, and impractical for desk work and manual labour alike.

I do mostly desk work, and my preferred option is a dress. I find it the most comfortable for sitting in for longer periods of time.

Speedwell

Shenshen wrote: »

I do mostly desk work, and my preferred option is a dress. I find it the most comfortable for sitting in for longer periods of time.

Yeah, OK. Not me. Maybe it's my hips. It twists and bunches under me, rides up my thighs, and prevents me from feeling comfortable climbing open stairs or library ladders for files on high shelves.

Another job in which a skirt might be necessary: wine grape treader?

Shenshen

osarusan wrote: »

I think one benefit is that people are less likely to get stressed out about what to wear and there's not as much competition about looking great and wearing expensive clothes. Not so much financial pressure on their parents either.

I don't have experience with school uniforms, but when I'm talking to parents here I get the impression that it's extra cost for an extra set of clothes that really only can be worn to school. So I'm kind of doubtful about the money saving aspect.

As for competition, I can't say I experienced that at school. If anything, it would have been about the nicest school bag, the best equipment, etc. I don't remember anybody ever even looking at clothes.

JustShon

Speedwell wrote: »

rides up my thighs

PM sent

Speedwell

JustShon wrote: »

PM sent

OK, OK, did the Yank make an accidental funny again?

Shenshen

Speedwell wrote: »

Yeah, OK. Not me. Maybe it's my hips. It twists and bunches under me, rides up my thighs, and prevents me from feeling comfortable climbing open stairs or library ladders for files on high shelves.

Another job in which a skirt might be necessary: wine grape treader?

Well, if I had to climb ladders regularly, I'd probably opt for trousers, too
But for sitting in, I find it's better for my legs - trousers I find bunching up at the knees and interfering with blood circulation. I also prefer having something loose around my waist, rather than trousers cutting in when sitting.

But it's really personal preference, nothing else.

BunkMoreland

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You sound like you have an issue with this, care to tell us why it would/should be unacceptable ?

On these topics why do people feign to not get what the issue might be.

Oh you're so liberal and progressive up on your high horse.

Clearly a man wearing a woman's skirt is an issue. As is people wanting to use the opposite sexs toilets because they decided one day to "switch".

Why would you even pretend that these topics are something second nature to you that you can't understand what the issue might be.

gramar

alchemist33 wrote: »

He can only wear it with a fetching baby-blue blouse accessorised by a pearl necklace

You're sick. Or maybe it's me.

Shenshen

BunkMoreland wrote: »

On these topics why do people feign to not get what the issue might be.

Oh you're so liberal and progressive up on your high horse.

Clearly a man wearing a woman's dress is an issue. As is people wanting to use the opposite sexs toilets because they decided one day to "switch".

Why would you even pretend that these topics are something second nature to you that you can't understand what the issue might be.

I'm nearly old enough to remember when it was an issue for women to wear trousers.
It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

Doyler92

I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever.

Timberrrrrrrr

BunkMoreland wrote: »

On these topics why do people feign to not get what the issue might be.

Oh you're so liberal and progressive up on your high horse.

Clearly a man wearing a woman's skirt is an issue. As is people wanting to use the opposite sexs toilets because they decided one day to "switch".

Why would you even pretend that these topics are something second nature to you that you can't understand what the issue might be.

Because I don't give a duck what people wear. Would you have an issue with women wearing trousers?

Some people are just too willing to get outraged over the most trivial things. Tell me, how would a man wearing a skirt affect your life in any way?

gramar

The whole debate reminds me of this...

JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?

LORETTA: I want to have babies.

REG: You want to have babies?!

LORETTA: It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.

REG: But... you can't have babies.

LORETTA: Don't you oppress me.

REG: I'm not oppressing you, Stan. You haven't got a womb! -- Where's the fetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!

LORETTA: [crying]

JUDITH: Here! I-- I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans', but that he can have the right to have babies.

FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.

REG: What's the point?

FRANCIS: What?

REG: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?!

FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.

REG: Symbolic of his struggle against reality.

Widdershins

Shenshen wrote: »

I don't have experience with school uniforms, but when I'm talking to parents here I get the impression that it's extra cost for an extra set of clothes that really only can be worn to school. So I'm kind of doubtful about the money saving aspect.

As for competition, I can't say I experienced that at school. If anything, it would have been about the nicest school bag, the best equipment, etc. I don't remember anybody ever even looking at clothes.

Yeah, it is an extra cost but I'd rather that than have to worry about kids experiencing snobbery over ridiculous brand named clothes, or the lack of them. A school some friends attended had no uniform and it was very much like a fashion contest. A bit like Mean Girls, the film.
There's too much judgement on peoples clothing as it is.

Walter H Price

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

So abolish school uniforms and work uniforms altogether?

Eh yeh , hows that not an obvious solution in 2016

I by no means a bleeding heart lefty or whatever , but common enforced dress codes and a Victorian sense of what cloths are appropriate dress for men and women should surely have gone by now.

Only exception to the uniform thing is members of the emergency services and army , after that whats the point , particularly with kids in school

me_irl

Is he Scottish?

love humanity

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

There's a male student who wants to wear a skirt.


Is men wearing skirts acceptable in your workplace?


I'm sure the lobby groups will be jumping up and down so he can have his cake.

My suggestion is they should make all the boys in the school wear skirts and full make-up as part of the new uniform policy.

Get him in touch with a psychotherapist to deal with his mental problems. Poor lad.

Shenshen

Widdershins wrote: »

Yeah, it is an extra cost but I'd rather that than have to worry about kids experiencing snobbery over ridiculous brand named clothes, or the lack of them. A school some friends attended had no uniform and it was very much like a fashion contest. A bit like Mean Girls, the film.
There's too much judgement on peoples clothing as it is.

I think it might be worth studying, at the end of the day all everybody can provide at the moment is personal experiences.
Though I did notice that people in this country generally speaking are much more brand-conscious than what I would have been used to before. But I couldn't say if that's a cause or a symptom of school uniforms, or even related to them at all.

Timberrrrrrrr

love humanity wrote: »

Get him in touch with a psychotherapist to deal with his mental problems. Poor lad.

Priests wear long frocks, monks wear long robes, why would someone who wants to wear a skirt have mental issues?

Widdershins

R.E The lad who wants to wear the skirt. I say let him. So long as it's a respectable length for work, just as you'd expect if a woman was wearing one.
No harm done.

love humanity

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Priests wear long frocks, monks wear long robes, why would someone who wants to wear a skirt have mental issues?

a school boy wants to wear a skirt? hahahaha come on , stop trolling

AnonoBoy

You must lead a charmed life if one dude's choice of clothing is your most pressing issue of concern at the moment.

Why get bent out of shape about one guy wanting to wear a skirt to school?

Big f*cking whoop like.

Timberrrrrrrr

love humanity wrote: »

a school boy wants to wear a skirt? hahahaha come on , stop trolling

Coming from you? :rolleyes:

Ohbethehokey

Walter H Price wrote: »

Eh yeh , hows that not an obvious solution in 2016

I by no means a bleeding heart lefty or whatever , but common enforced dress codes and a Victorian sense of what cloths are appropriate dress for men and women should surely have gone by now.

Only exception to the uniform thing is members of the emergency services and army , after that whats the point , particularly with kids in school

Why the discrimination against soldiers and emergency services?

AnonoBoy

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

Why the discrimination against soldiers and emergency services?

Because they have to learn to follow orders. They follow orders or people die. It's that simple.

Are we clear?

Or would you like me to imply that your truth handling skills are not up to scratch?

Lyaiera

I once saw a boy in a skirt and my foot fell off. I can't believe it's allowed in this day and age. Think of all the other people who might have seen him and had their foot fall off.

Ohbethehokey

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Because they have to learn to follow orders. They follow orders or people die. It's that simple.

Are we clear?

Or would you like me to imply that your truth handling skills are not up to scratch?

so do air hostesses in full make up and heels. Why wouldn't the special snowflakes in the army and emergency services be able to.


School children have to follow orders too or there'd be chaos. You point is moot.

Widdershins

Shenshen wrote: »

I think it might be worth studying, at the end of the day all everybody can provide at the moment is personal experiences.
Though I did notice that people in this country generally speaking are much more brand-conscious than what I would have been used to before. But I couldn't say if that's a cause or a symptom of school uniforms, or even related to them at all.

Good idea. I know there's financial support available towards books and uniforms (or maybe IPADS and uniforms now?). How far would that money go if it had to be used to buy x number of outfits, I wonder?
Of course it comes down to whether the parent wants to go for the brand name stuff..

love humanity

We're irish, not americans. Tell him to cop on and forget about it, problem solved.