The Guards - 9.55pm Tonight RTÉ2

Atlantic Dawn

This 2 parter starts tonight on RTÉ2, looks interesting

The Guards is a landmark series bringing viewers an unprecedented, behind-the-scenes look at frontline policing in Dublin city centre. In this first episode we see how the Gardaí are tackling the drugs trade in the north inner city, the burglaries, thefts and assaults that arise out of it and the unintended consequences for other parts of the city. Series 1 Episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CIzgK0_130

Samsgirl

Watching!

Shannon757

Samsgirl wrote: »

Watching!

Same.

skittles8710

Seems to be completely focusing on drug related crime so far. Wonder is that going to be it for the 2 programmes.

Shannon757

skittles8710 wrote: »

Seems to be completely focusing on drug related crime so far. Wonder is that going to be it for the 2 programmes.

I would love a Road Wars episode. Or maybe a shootout.

skittles8710

Convicted of 3 counts of dealing = suspended sentence.

What a joke!

Atlantic Dawn

It would be interesting if drugs were legalized would burglary and street theft collapse.

Shannon757

Some amount of scumbags on it so far.

technocrat

The judges have a lot to answer for leaving these vermin off the hook with suspended sentences.

stampydmonkey

Would like to see the same documentary in a few years when the garda numbers are up. See have they more resources to blitz this ****

punisher5112

1st episode mostly drug 2nd be a bit different

pidgeoneyes

Solicitors, barristers and judges are the problem. But they're making too much money for it to change.

Atlantic Dawn

I'd want a hazmat suit to be walking around dealing with these scummers, could catch all sorts off them.

LeinsterDub

The war on drugs has been an almighty failure globally and needs to be reassessed immediately

Notoldorwise

Slightly off topic but does anyone know why rte didn't report the garda march on Dail Eireann today?

tayto lover

12 bags of heroin shoved up his hole.
I wouldn't fancy searching that fecker.

Notoldorwise

Notoldorwise wrote: »

Slightly off topic but does anyone know why rte didn't report the garda march on Dail Eireann today?

They did, I saw it on the news

Keane2baMused

"You have to send it where the sun don't shine, it's either tha or get caught with it"

Keane2baMused

The bloke beating the absolute sh1te out of that guy with a hammer.

Absolute lowest scum.

somesoldiers

Fair play to the guards but I can't help but feel it's all a bit pointless

Notoldorwise

bubblypop wrote:

They did, I saw it on the news

My mistake. I see it there now on their newsfeed...

Atlantic Dawn

Have the junkies not adapted and moved online for doing their deals?

tayto lover

The drug dealing must be a scourge for the local shop owners trying to make a living among those low lifes.

swine

What an awful job.

LeinsterDub

Leave the area and go where? Arresting them achieves what?

Atlantic Dawn

tayto lover wrote: »

The drug dealing must be a scourge for the local shop owners trying to make a living among those low lifes.

And when your paying the massive rent and rates to have to put up with it.

Atlantic Dawn

Pepper spray and a baton is what he should have used there.

Samsgirl

Jaysus, why would anyone want to be a Guard?? Utter scumbags they have to deal with.

Atlantic Dawn

Threatening the Garda with the syringe should have been the same level of charge as that if she threatened him with a gun, on the mental side of things the syringe is much worse.

swine

3 months for 30 charges. The problem isn't the number of gardai on the street, it's the repeat offenders getting the judicial equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

Keane2baMused

Samsgirl wrote: »

Jaysus, why would anyone want to be a Guard?? Utter scumbags they have to deal with.

I know several gardai and they all hate their job, easy to see why.

Gavlor

swine wrote: »

What an awful job.

Not sure if I missed the cop show and am watching worlds worst jobs instead. Horrendous.

The worst thing is the menial sentences that the scumbags are given.

LeinsterDub

swine wrote: »

3 months for 30 charges. The problem isn't the number of gardai on the street, it's the repeat offenders getting the judicial equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

Don't want to sound like a bleeding heart but drug addicts won't be "reformed" by a prison sentence

somesoldiers

Innocent hard working people tying to earn a few pound, scum

stampydmonkey

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Don't want to sound like a bleeding heart but drug addicts won't be "reformed" by a prison sentence

Agree but what is the alternative in Ireland at the minute? Honestly don't know..

swine

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Don't want to sound like a bleeding heart but drug addicts won't be "reformed" by a prison sentence

I would agree on that. We don't have the resources for rehabilitating addicts but "minor" crime across the board have ridiculous sentencing.

On a side note, that breaching ram looked quite small/thin compared to what you see on TV!

Atlantic Dawn

The boardwalk is a bloody disgrace, the money spent on it and it has become a zone for junkies to sunbath and deal.

tayto lover

Did I just see a tram moving there?

Clonmel1000

Tiocfaidh ar la ffs the scrote.

Atlantic Dawn

I think Joe Duffy has his topic for tomorrows show

LeinsterDub

swine wrote: »

I would agree on that. We don't have the resources for rehabilitating addicts but "minor" crime across the board have ridiculous sentencing.

On a side note, that breaching ram looked quite small/thin compared to what you see on TV!

Surely it's more expensive to have extra garda, prisons, prison officers than some safe injection and detox sites?

Mightydrumming

That battering ram job was something else!

swine

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Surely it's more expensive to have extra garda, prisons, prison officers than some safe injection and detox sites?

I agree. My initial comment was more in relation to all minor crimes having sentencing that is far too lenient, not just drug related.

sonofenoch

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Agree but what is the alternative in Ireland at the minute? Honestly don't know..

Legalization ......hand them over drugs instead of social welfare payments and write them off from the human race as a lost cause

twowheelsonly

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Don't want to sound like a bleeding heart but drug addicts won't be "reformed" by a prison sentence

Not by a two or three month one they won't. Rehabilitation in prison only works when the sentence is long enough for a detox, treatment and education so 12 months minimum and possibly longer.

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Agree but what is the alternative in Ireland at the minute? Honestly don't know..

Legalisation and regulation of drugs IMO, along the lines of the drinks industry. Take the power and the money away from the big dealers so it's not worth their while anymore and straight away you're putting the street dealers out of business as well. Treatment - detox can then be carried out as per smoking / drinking but it should have the bonus of not having an upcoming market as the peer pressure to try drugs should also lessen.

thebaz

swine wrote: »

3 months for 30 charges. The problem isn't the number of gardai on the street, it's the repeat offenders getting the judicial equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

agree , but also attacking a Garda and cameraman with a filled syringe and getting 3 moths for such a horrible coward evil act - never mind the other 30 charges - the judiciary in Ireland live in a different world , cushioned away from day to day reality of the world most of us live in , in there own pampered wealthy environs.

Riverireland

thebaz wrote: »

agree , but also attacking a Garda and cameraman with a filled syringe and getting 3 moths for such a horrible coward evil act - never mind the other 30 charges - the judiciary in Ireland live in a different world , cushioned away from day to day reality of the world most of us live in , in there own pampered wealthy environs.

I agree with it being a horrible cowardly act to threaten anyone in that manner is disgusting. However, is it not the responsibility of the security services in the first place to keep drugs out of this jurisdiction? If the illegal substances were not rampant in Ireland then surely these problems wouldn't be occurring.

thebaz

Riverireland wrote: »

I agree with it being a horrible cowardly act to threaten anyone in that manner is disgusting. However, is it not the responsibility of the security services in the first place to keep drugs out of this jurisdiction? If the illegal substances were not rampant in Ireland then surely these problems wouldn't be occurring.

in fairness very few addicts will attack with a syringe - I believe addicts should be helped and treated with compassion , many want to get clean , but for those who attack with filled syringes should get hard long sentences - I have seen it happen and the devastation and fear it causes to victim and family is horrendous . Drug taking rooms must be introduced quickly to keep potential hazardous paraphernalia away from vulnerable people , such as children.

kravmaga

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/enacted/en/print

I think Section 6 deals with the offence of Syringe attacks.

I remember this was brought in to deal with the many drug addicts using syringes filled with real blood or substances similar in colour to commit Robbery from shops and the person in Dublin back in the late 90's.

Interesting 1st episode, just shows what the average Guard has to deal with on a daily basis.

The Criminal Justice system in this country is a joke. Complete failure..............

Samsgirl

Part two starting.now!

Atlantic Dawn

I can never understand why there's no push to extend or stagger closing times, having everyone ejected at the same time all looking for taxis, food etc at the same time is a receipe for disaster.