Roberto Martinez Sacked

Vicxas

Cant say that i'm surprised, he has been truly awful in the last 2 years:

Roberto Martinez has been sacked as Everton manager, according to reports.

The Spaniard has come under increasing scrutiny in recent weeks, culminating in a 3-0 defeat against Sunderland on Wednesday.

The loss leaves the Toffees 12th in the Premier League table, and despite leading the club to semi-finals of both domestic cup competitions, Martinez’s league form has cost him.

Sky Sports, the Liverpool Echo and numerous other outlets are reporting that Everton have sacked the Spaniard after the latest disappointment.

Everton could finish as low as 16th this season, with Martinez having guided the club to fifth and 11th place finishes in his two full season at Goodison Park.

The Spaniard took over from David Moyes after the club finished sixth in the 2012/13 Premier League season, but Martinez has overseen a gradual regression during his tenure.

Martinez said some very silly things during his time at the club.

https://www.facebook.com/SkySports/videos/10154175501828762/

brianregan09

Must be moving quick now that De Boer is free

Harry Palmr

Future manager of Barcelona I believe!

In 2012 this happened



but we got Rodgers instead! Both ex Swansea, neither could set up a team to defend, but could encourage attacking football with the right players, both got sacked for not winning enough games/having plan B and both talk a good game (incessantly).

Sugarlumps

Absolute charlatan, his interviews were mostly bizarre.

NukaCola

Apart from his first season he actually brought them backwards.

Return of Moyes?

alchemist33

I remember the days when Everton fans thought they'd done great in Moyes leaving and Martinez coming in.

Harry Palmr

Frank De Boer is nailed on

martyos121

Hope Moyes comes back because I've a tenner on De Boer to be the next Arsenal manager since two years ago.

average_runner

De boer is next manager.
Moyes will go to newcastle

blinding

In fairness he was very good for Swansea and for Wigan but he did not seem to be able to get this Everton team to defend.

Joshua J

blinding wrote: »

In fairness he was very good for Swansea and for Wigan but he did not seem to be able to get this Everton team to defend.

He relegated Wigan bud.

CSF

Was ridiculously overhyped throughout his spells. A situation like this was inevitable.

Masala

He got 'money' for Fellani.....you have to give him credit for that.

average_runner

blinding wrote: »

In fairness he was very good for Swansea and for Wigan but he did not seem to be able to get this Everton team to defend.

Couldn't get Wigan to defend either, just got lucky they escaped relegation a few years

average_runner

Masala wrote: »

He got 'money' for Fellani.....you have to give him credit for that.

But we pay for robles salary

Joshua J

average_runner wrote: »

But we pay for robles salary

You jest but imagine if Howard had been in nets last 6 games. Cricket scores.

Gavlor

Thank god.

Apparently kenwright wanted to keep him on but the new owners froze him out of talks and the recruitment process for a new manager.

A bit of ambition from Everton at last.






(Wait for Martin O'Neill to get the job )

RayCon

Congratulations Everton supporters. Now you feel exactly like I did when Rogers got the boot. Death to spoofers !!!

lawred2

NukaCola wrote: »

Apart from his first season he actually brought them backwards.

Return of Moyes?

not.a.chance

Joshua J

alchemist33 wrote: »

I remember the days when Everton fans thought they'd done great in Moyes leaving and Martinez coming in.

I thought Moyes did fantastic at us but had taken us as far as he could and we were all hopeful that a new manager with fresh ideas could bring us to the next level. Didn't happen but you can't blame us for hoping.

MayoSalmon

Joshua J wrote:

He relegated Wigan bud.

Would of been hard not too though

Turtyturd

Martinez for Villa.

loyatemu

Toon/Villa need Championship/Promotion specialists - it's a different ballgame down there. Not sure Moyes is the answer for either of them. Everton could do worse than poach Koeman from Southampton.

Joshua J

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Would of been hard not too though

A fate Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce managed to avoid, Bruce quite comfortably.

nullzero

Moyes returning isn't a far fetched idea. He left when the United job came up, only for that he'd most likely still be there. He is as good a punt as anyone, although I'd say a possible move to Celtic may appeal more to him.

breffni bogballer

He had turned Everton into a slightly better version of Wigan

Cypher_sounds

alchemist33 wrote: »

I remember the days when Everton fans thought they'd done great in Moyes leaving and Martinez coming in.

And I remember the days that us United fans though we'd done great in Moyes leaving an Van Gaal coming in:o

citytillidie

Rafa for Everton

GavRedKing

I cant see Koeman taking a sideways step and joining Everton, although on one hand it could be argued it would be a backwards step.

Southampton can still finish 6th if they win and West Ham fail to do so on Sunday.

mosstin

breffni bogballer wrote: »

He had turned Everton into a slightly better version of Wigan

Having spent millions in the process. With the squad they have, Everton should be pushing for CL at a stretch but definitely in the mix for EL every season. Bullshitter par excellence - born to be a pundit on the BBC panel.

StringerBell

He is in a bad moment right now....

Took him under 2 years to dismantle what Moyes had built, 3 years to have them starting to take a turn toward relegation fears.

Lumbo

citytillidie wrote: »

Rafa for Everton

Only Bill Kenwright could appoint a manager less popular with Everton fans then Martinez. Watch this space!!!

Hank Scorpio

Spoofer.

wally79

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Would of been hard not too though

After Martinez took over at Wigan their goals conceded went up by between 20-30 goals per season compared to the 4 prem league seasons before hand

The man cannot organise a defence and that was his downfall yet again

dfx-

GavRedKing wrote: »

I cant see Koeman taking a sideways step and joining Everton, although on one hand it could be argued it would be a backwards step.

Southampton can still finish 6th if they win and West Ham fail to do so on Sunday.

It's a very tough job dealing with the level of unjustified expectation at Everton. It's not worth taking a sideways step imo.

Even when they were playing well earlier in the season, there was abuse raining down from the stands. There's a complete breakdown between players and fans, managers and fans, board and fans. Is it any surprise it has ended with performances like the last two.

He'd be mad to take it.

Joshua J

dfx- wrote: »

It's a very tough job dealing with the level of unjustified expectation at Everton. It's not worth taking a sideways step imo.

Even when they were playing well earlier in the season, there was abuse raining down from the stands. There's a complete breakdown between players and fans, managers and fans, board and fans. Is it any surprise it has ended with performances like the last two.

He'd be mad to take it.

When were we playin g well I must have missed that?. You sure you're not thinking bout last season?.

IvySlayer

De Boer or Mark Hughes

Martinez is a very stubborn coach but he has won an FA Cup with Wigan

loyatemu

GavRedKing wrote: »

I cant see Koeman taking a sideways step and joining Everton, although on one hand it could be argued it would be a backwards step.

Southampton can still finish 6th if they win and West Ham fail to do so on Sunday.

Everton are a much bigger club historically and in terms of fanbase, they have a new rich owner who has promised to spend money, and their problems this season are almost entirely down to lousy management - they have a decent squad with a mix of experienced pros and promising youngsters. I think it would be a step up for Koeman.

thebaz

alchemist33 wrote: »

I remember the days when Everton fans thought they'd done great in Moyes leaving and Martinez coming in.

I was one of those - the Moyes era was more successful, but the football could be a little tedious - with Martinez it was a roller coaster - the first year great and refreshing after a few years of mediocrity - the past 2 years were poor , and always felt he should be judged on the 3 year - and the was proven not good eneogh to manage Everton , when you see what has happened at similar sized clubs - Leeda, Villa , Newcastle - certainly could have been worse - think he will re-invent himself at a smaller club - his record at Wigan and Swansea was super , yes Wigan got relegated but they were never really a big club. Rafa has managed over a big club going down.
Anyway right move all round , his time was up, and I certainly wish him well, and have some good memories , even beating Chelsea in FA Cup and some of the football we played earlier this year was super.

wally79

Joshua J wrote: »

When were we playin g well I must have missed that?. You sure you're not thinking bout last season?.

It can't be last season either. Must be the year before

Chardee MacDennis

There's the core of a pretty decent team there with Lukaku, Stones, Baines, Barkley, Deulofeu, Coleman, McCarthy, and Mirallas.

SlickRic

it's simple.

it's one thing to be able to encourage football that is open and easy on the eye. it will take teams by surprise, and teams will be unable to deal with it in a lot of instances.

it's a whole other thing when teams have gotten a good look at you, and figure out that you have no intention of getting your team competent at defending high balls into the box, and just generally tough to beat. if you play good football, but you've a soft centre, you'll get found out.

What Moyes had left papered over a lot of Martinez's short comings. There was a sweet spot for about 12 months where Jagielka, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Coleman and Barry were all at peak performance, making things stable, and it was sprinkled with the emergence of Barkley, Lukaku's brute force, and Martinez's ability to get a team to play expansively.

the problem is, that sweet spot doesn't last forever unless you have the ability to identify solid players to replace the old ones, or just able to set a team up properly. It's Arsene Wenger syndrome, only on a much smaller scale. he inherited stability, sprinkled it with his style, and Arsenal had the best team in the league for a period. But it waned.

You can't live off 'nice football'. Rodgers tried, but had Suarez. Martinez has tried, but he's also been unmasked as a spoofer.

The fact Stones hasn't just failed to kick on, but arguably has gotten worse this year, is testament to Martinez's ignorance of the art of defending and stability. Stones hasn't learned a thing about defending; a marvellous footballer, who needs some defensive coaching, and he'll be a phenom.

Everton will be the biggest club Martinez ever manages, just like Liverpool will be the biggest club Rodgers ever does.

Gavlor

GavRedKing wrote: »

I cant see Koeman taking a sideways step and joining Everton, although on one hand it could be argued it would be a backwards step.

Southampton can still finish 6th if they win and West Ham fail to do so on Sunday.

Trust a Chelsea fan to forget about the past 100 years and to consider a flash new club to be bigger than 4th most successful club in English league history.....

Skylinehead

SlickRic wrote: »

. It's Arsene Wenger syndrome, only on a much smaller scale. he inherited stability, sprinkled it with his style, and Arsenal had the best team in the league for a period. But it waned.

Which of Wenger's 03/04 defence was inherited again? They were all his signings, aside from Ashley Cole who he brought through.

blinding

Joshua J wrote: »

He relegated Wigan bud.

I know but he had done very well before that and he did win the cup . To have done as well as he had done with Wigan before that was good going and he also did well at Swansea . Some one was bound to be the manager of Wigan when they went down. A club of that size is almost certainly not going to stay in the top division indefinitely.

Ok, he seemed incapable of getting this Everton side to defend.

CSF

blinding wrote: »

I know but he had done very well before that and he did win the cup . To have done as well as he had done with Wigan before that was good going and he also did well at Swansea . Some one was bound to be the manager of Wigan when they went down. A club of that size is almost certainly not going to stay in the top division indefinitely.

Ok, he seemed incapable of getting this Everton side to defend.

I don't think he deserves that much credit for Wigan, cup aside, he didn't get them up. He kept them up but I could name you a long list of mediocre managers who be kept small teams up on low budgets.

As proven by Sunderland barely even showing up for 60% of a season and staying up with a game to spare, it's really not that difficult to stay in the Premier League once in it at the moment. There always seems to be a couple of implosions going on somewhere.

Giggsy11

blinding wrote: »

I know but he had done very well before that and he did win the cup . To have done as well as he had done with Wigan before that was good going and he also did well at Swansea . Some one was bound to be the manager of Wigan when they went down. A club of that size is almost certainly not going to stay in the top division indefinitely.

Ok, he seemed incapable of getting this Everton side to defend.

Wigan were better with Bruce as manager. Finished in higher positions and spent more or less same in the transfer market. If we consider Net spend then Bruce is much better.

blinding

CSF wrote: »

I don't think he deserves that much credit for Wigan, cup aside, he didn't get them up. He kept them up but I could name you a long list of mediocre managers who be kept small teams up on low budgets.

As proven by Sunderland barely even showing up for 60% of a season and staying up with a game to spare, it's really not that difficult to stay in the Premier League once in it at the moment. There always seems to be a couple of implosions going on somewhere.

How many seasons did he keep them up ? A few at least I think. Not bad going.

He certainly was found out at the higher level (of Everton) defensively. Its surprising that a coach in this situation would not get in some defensive coaching help . I suppose not everyone can cope with that. In the end he has been a failure at Everton. His teams do play good attacking football but that is no good if you cannot defend. The boringly defensive manager Mourinho has knocked a great career out of his defensive football ;Sadly.

CSF

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Wigan were better with Bruce as manager. Finished in higher positions and spent more or less same in the transfer market. If we consider Net spend then Bruce is much better.

I know people would scoff at it because Bruce spent last season at Hull while Martinez was at Everton, but I'd have Bruce higher up the managerial food chain than Martinez. 2 consecutive bottom half finishes with a squad like Everton's is almost unheard of.

Mostly because nobody usually gets as far as the end of the 2nd season but it took ages for Martinez's unearned reputation to start to fade. It actually kind of bugs me when you consider certain managers who've descended into ridicule for less.

mikeym

Everton dont sack many managers they had to sack Bobby.

It's a shame he's gone. He'll be missed by opposing fans and teams