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Woman aged 70, maybe 72, has baby with 79 year old man

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    Very sad to see.

    I'm in my late thirties and can just about manage mine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    70 is too old to be having your first child.

    Sure come back in 20 years, the crack will be 90!!

    Just had a thought.........imagine having to suckle on those boobies, eugh!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    Seems very selfish.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Poor kid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    It seems to be the second mother of that age to have a baby at the same clinic. I'm not sure what regulations they have to follow in India, but it appears to me that they are experimenting on these women to boost their own egos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Not sure I completely believe this story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    'God will provide' they said - if God existed he/she/it would have provided them with a bebe a few decades earlier - someone else will be providing for the poor kid in a few years, and if not the poor kid will be providing for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    jonnycivic wrote: »

    her 17th child :eek:
    For so long I have felt useless to God, I could not procreate since I turned 48 years old when I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. For a long time I believed God was punishing me for only bearing 16 children,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    70 is too old to be having your first child. It's not fair on the child. The doctors have loose morals to be encouraging this type of thing. Cut off point for IVF should be 45.



    Thats not the only thing that was loose in that delivery room.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    At least she will save time by being able to collect the children's allowance along with her old age pension!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    It seems to be the second mother of that age to have a baby at the same clinic. I'm not sure what regulations they have to follow in India, but it appears to me that they are experimenting on these women to boost their own egos.
    On the report I saw about it this morning, they mentioned that there's a cultural thing at work here too, that you are seen as a lesser person if you haven't procreated. Add this to the caste system, and things like this probably shouldn't be too surprising, given the advances in medicine/technology.
    magentis wrote: »
    I'm in my late thirties and can just about manage mine!

    I misread that as 'nine'! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The sort of thing JG ballard might have considered for a novel then discard on grounds of taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    jonnycivic wrote: »

    I love the other news stories linked on that page:

    Malaysia: 55 CAR PASSENGER-TRAIN VANISHES ON ITS WAY TO CHINA, 1337 PEOPLE MISSING

    and

    NEW-YORK: SON OF BIN-LADEN IS INTERN AT WORLD TRADE CENTRE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/10/indian-woman-in-her-70s-gives-birth-to-healthy-baby-boy

    A woman of 70-72 years of age, and her husband who is 79 had a baby boy on the third attempt at ivf.

    I find this mind boggling! A couple who are in their final years of life having a baby boy and the medical community in India assisting them.

    As someone who has been down this road, and knows only too well the difficulties of the journey, I just wonder what all the people involved think is ahead for this child...orphanage by the time he's 5 or 6, parents that aren't physically capable of dealing with the hard work a newborn brings....
    I understand the biological need to procreate and carry on the family line...but surely a halt has to be called at a certain age and common sense brought in to play, if not by the couple, but by responsible medical staff ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp


    That's mental. Very selfish and irresponsible of the parents.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    I wonder if they had any female babies or foetuses that...didn't make it...for some reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    The baby would be drinking sand on those boobs. Own eggs? What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    ... Own eggs? What?

    I have questions about that too, but I'm not too sure where to start...:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/10/indian-woman-in-her-70s-gives-birth-to-healthy-baby-boy

    A woman of 70-72 years of age, and her husband who is 79 had a baby boy on the third attempt at ivf.

    I find this mind boggling! A couple who are in their final years of life having a baby boy and the medical community in India assisting them.

    As someone who has been down this road, and knows only too well the difficulties of the journey, I just wonder what all the people involved think is ahead for this child...orphanage by the time he's 5 or 6, parents that aren't physically capable of dealing with the hard work a newborn brings....
    I understand the biological need to procreate and carry on the family line...but surely a halt has to be called at a certain age and common sense brought in to play, if not by the couple, but by responsible medical staff ?

    Random birthday party's?
    Though certainly one of the oldest mothers to give birth, her exact age was unclear. She has said she is about 70 but does not have a birth certificate, which is not uncommon in India.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Already been done bud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Least they'll have a supply of spare parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Ridiculous. Selfish. And the doctors are very irresponsible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    vienne86 wrote: »
    Ridiculous. Selfish. And the doctors are very irresponsible.

    Well I suppose it was better than swiping a male child from a related family where there was more than one boy and pronouncing it as their own which is what used to typically happen. I did read they had adopted a boy but he went to the US and never returned. They do engage in some sex-selective ancient rituals for having a boy child and believe that certain sexual positions will produce a boy. The rate of aborted female foetuses is still quite high and not just prevalent among the lower classes but upper clasess aswell. Females are a financial liability when it comes to marriage where boys are a form of insurance and future financial stability although one would assume both parents will have died by the time he reaches maturity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    Had to laugh when god was brought into the conversation. Science brought the child into the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    shar01 wrote: »
    Had to laugh when god was brought into the conversation. Science brought the child into the world.

    But God created the scientists...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Eeeeeeewwwwwwww old people sex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    McGruber wrote: »
    Eeeeeeewwwwwwww old people sex.

    Heard Wayne Rooney is jealous as fcuk


  • Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    who'll change the nappy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    McGruber wrote: »
    Eeeeeeewwwwwwww old people sex.

    the only hard tubes involved were made of glass






    more like old people mechanical masturbation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    XR3i wrote: »
    who'll change the nappy?

    Whose nappy, the parents or the childs?


  • Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    Whose nappy, the parents or the childs?

    the childs obv.

    anyway fair play to them i'd say they'll have great craic with the baby

    i'd love to have one myself but i haven't the patience to find a wife or to wait nine months for the baby :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Try when you 101 :eek:

    Obvious nonsense source is obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Already been done bud.

    Not from the viewpoint of someone that's been thru it bud ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    It must have been like living in a dusty cave


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,447 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Threads merged.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,800 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Thats nucking futs.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    So this mornings story is they did it for the inheritance.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The child may have a better future than one born to a 17 year old after a knee trembler in an alley in Tallaght. It's hard to be definitive. I mean, if the father was 70 and the mother 50, or 40, or 30 etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    The child may have a better future than one born to a 17 year old after a knee trembler in an alley in Tallaght. It's hard to be definitive. I mean, if the father was 70 and the mother 50, or 40, or 30 etc.

    Yes, from a biological point of view, the pregnancy is highly risky, but I'm pretty sure 70-something men have been becoming fathers since the dawn of man, or at least since people starting surviving until their 70s en masse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The only thing stopping women from being full economic production units for life is having those pesky kids


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Immaculata


    Cut off point for IVF should be 45.

    Based on what? The average age of menopause is mid-fifties and it's possible, although not common, for a woman to have a baby naturally (i.e. without IVF) into her fifties. Look at Cheryl Blair in England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Immaculata wrote: »
    Based on what? The average age of menopause is mid-fifties and it's possible, although not common, for a woman to have a baby naturally (i.e. without IVF) into her fifties. Look at Cheryl Blair in England.

    The same reason they stop adoptions at 45 I suppose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Immaculata wrote: »
    Based on what? The average age of menopause is mid-fifties and it's possible, although not common, for a woman to have a baby naturally (i.e. without IVF) into her fifties. Look at Cheryl Blair in England.


    It's not fair on the child. It's not all about the parents rights to have a child. A child needs their parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    bollocks
    That has to be a wind up because a quick google search doesn't show any of the larger mainstream news media carrying the story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Realistically that kid is going to be an orphan before its 10th birthday. That's sad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭Sapphire


    It's not fair on the child. It's not all about the parents rights to have a child. A child needs their parents.

    I'm in two minds on this.

    I know a man who had his youngest newborn at 60 (natural family planning FTW!) and had more hands on time with his kids, was a brilliant dad and was around until his children were well into adulthood, and died in his 80's

    His neighbour died in his early sixties from alcohol abuse. He was a crap and abusive dad and totally neglected his kids.

    So while I agree that age should be a consideration in becoming a parent, the quality of that parenting is far more important. I would think that the age limit for artificial reproductive treatment should be set at the age a natural pregnancy could theoretically occur (so say mid-fifties as a cutoff point), taking into account overall health and risks involved to both mother and foetus.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Good luck to them but the little boy will soon be an orphan and still very young. Who will take care of him then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Vex Willems


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Good luck to them but the little boy will soon be an orphan and still very young. Who will take care of him then?

    God


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