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Minor schemes & realignments

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  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭brianc89


    Exactly.

    There are a few junctions along this stretch which are quite dangerous. It would be great to see a middle turning lane. The addition of a pathway would also be a huge benefit.

    Zero information to be found though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭brianc89


    I contacted the local office regarding the minor N63 works. They are removing a dip in the road and doing a basic resurface of c. 2km or road. No addition of a cycleway or any path of any description.

    Disappointing but hardly surprising. God forbid I might have expected that roadworks on Primary roads in 2022 would add a pathway for cyclists and pedestrians.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Might be easier said than done. It's a secondary road not primary and rural roads are very narrow with no space for a footpath. You'd have to widen into the ditch or hedgerow and neither is a simple matter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭brianc89


    Yeah for sure.

    They have upgraded others sections of the road nearby. 6km from M17 to Abbeyknockmoy - although this was within the funding for the motorway - and they also upgraded a 700m section outside Moylough - below.

    I was hoping this was the same as the current works, but alas it's not.

    The road is national secondary indeed. Once you get into Roscommon though, large sections of the road are already close to Primary standard with hard shoulder etc though no cycleway! Shame they can't gradually upgrade as per the image below.




  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Imeacht gan teacht ort


    There is no such thing as "primary standard".

    Single carriageway roads are categorized by 3 standards, nowadays; Type 1 (with hard shoulders), Type 2 (without, and ever so slightly narrower lanes), and Type 3 (ever so slightly narrower again, but with segregated foot/cycle ways alongside.


    Which is chosen is dependent on traffic volumes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Does anyone have any drawings or maps of the Tralee Northern Relief Road which is currently under construction? Oddly, Kerry County Council have none that I'm aware of on their website and a Google search doesn't deliver any meaningful results either. I'm curious to see how much it deviates from the existing narrow road between N69 Forge Cross roundabout and Abbeydorney Road and where the tie in/new roundabout on the latter road will be located.



  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭brianc89


    What defines whether a road is National Primary or National Secondary? Is this just a meaningless definition?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    The Minister for Transport defines what roads are National roads and the function of the road defines whether it’s primary or secondary.

    National Roads are a network that enables long-distance travel between towns and cities as well as sea-ports and airports. They are managed, funded and planned directly by TII and the Department of Transport.

    The two sub-categories, Primary and Secondary are to do with the importance of the road nationally. Primary roads (numbers 1–50) go between major cities and nationally important sites, and normally end within a major settlement. Secondary roads (numbers 51–99) connect smaller places to the primary network, and normally terminate on a primary road at both ends (but there are a couple of exceptions: N68 terminates in Dingle, for instance).

    All of the motorways are also national roads (legally the M50 is National Road 50, even though it was built as a motorway from day one), but that’s because only the most important cross-country routes have been built out as motorways, and those were all national roads. There's nothing in the legislation that would prevent a Regional Road being placed under motorway regulations, but it’s unlikely to happen now given the focus on reducing car commuting.

    The last categories, Regional (R prefix, numbers 100–999) and Local (L prefix, numbers above 1000, and the numbers can be re-used in different counties) are managed by the county and city councils. Regional roads are medium-distance, usually within one county, and connect places within the region (hence the name); Local roads connect individual properties and small villages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Imeacht gan teacht ort


    N86 ends in Dingle. ;-)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭KrisW1001




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21



    Ball rolling on an upgrade of the N71 just east of Rosscarbery. Absolutely shocking stretch of road, narrow, no hard shoulders, blind corners, dangerous accesses etc. Much needed on a very busy tourist route.

    The western 1km was upgraded in the 90s to have climbing lanes so I'm assuming minor road layout changes and addition of active travel facilties there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 cheerylemon


    Any news on the N51 Dunmoe realignment? Just passed down that way and it seems to be halfway there



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N17 Milltown to Gortnagunnad realignment approved by An Bord Pleanala




  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Imeacht gan teacht ort


    Will that be all the legacy road gone on that stretch of the N17?

    (Apart from the fact that Milltown and Ballindine both need bypasses).



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Yes indeed.

    Ideally, a N17 Tuam-Claremorris with bypasses of the two villages that takes in an upgrade of the newly improved N17 stretches when we have a more favourable environment for roadbuilding.



  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Super news, and it only took ABP 10 months, which is good for them. Hopefully as a small and uncontroversial project this can be tendered and built ASAP.

    Just to answer the question above, this is the last bit of N17 without hard shoulders between Galway and just south of Charlestown, except for Milltown and Ballindine villages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The N51 is getting a minor upgrade in navan with a tender gone out for a local distributor road connecting the N51 at Teagasc rounabout across the blackwater and back to the slane road.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,874 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Tender notice is here;

    Will the new road immediately become an extension of the N51 with roads north of the river redesignated? Surely another c.1km extension to the N51 is needed at the other end before that can happen.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Looks like the plan is to create a new piece of N51 alright. But it’s going to need that extension at the other end first.

    Post edited by spacetweek on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Contractor appointed for the N60 Heathlawn project in Co Mayo.

    The map in the tweet is entirely wrong btw.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Maybe because its not TII funded they had to split the contract for funding purposes and there may be a 2nd contract coming out for the connection piece



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I was in Cavan Town today appearently the next Section of the N55 KIllydoon to Corduff is ready to go. Prefered Contractor has being nominated . Januaryish start date is planned



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭hondar


    Any idea who the contractor is?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Construction of the site compound for the N60 Heathlawn project is to start this week, according to Mayo County Council. The new contractor is not wasting any time!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Not sure but like the post above i would not be suprised if it was Foxs theyy seam to be winning alot of under 5Km jobs.

    I wonder what went wrong earlier in the year with the tender that it had to he re tendered



  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    According to Mayo Co Co, the tender has been awarded for the N84 north of Shrule road widening scheme, with the contractor scheduled to commence by end November.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




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  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Same guys who did N17 Carrownurlaur to Ballindine and the N60 at Lagnamuck, both grand jobs.



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