DLR "Bay 10K" 2016 Registration

uvox

FYI The 2016 Dun Laoghaire Bay10K (http://dlrbay10k.ie/) is open ICYMI

https://endurancecui.active.com/new/events/28059453/select-race?_p=8749496727250516

average_runner

uvox wrote: »

FYI The 2016 Dun Laoghaire Bay10K (http://dlrbay10k.ie/) is open ICYMI

https://endurancecui.active.com/new/events/28059453/select-race?_p=8749496727250516

Its not a great race in fairness, too crowded at the start and then alot of hills for first 5-6k, very hard to get the pacing going.

Krusty_Clown

average_runner wrote: »

Its not a great race in fairness, too crowded at the start and then alot of hills for first 5-6k, very hard to get the pacing going.

I don't think the presence of hills determines whether a race is great or not, just whether a race has the potential for a PB. I have always liked this one, though my opinions may be coloured somewhat by the fact that it's on the stomping grounds of my youth. Crowds have never been a problem for me either (in fact, it can be a bit lonely because of the R&R, taking place the same day), but sure we all look for different things in races. Might be back this year to try and run a DLR PB.

uvox

Just FYI - the R&R has been moved to the following weekend this year:

http://www.runrocknroll.com/dublin/the-weekend/schedule-of-events/

Might make it easier for people to do both!

BeepBeep67

Here's last year's thread, I expect to attend meetings from mid June, so will be in a position to answer questions from then.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057409820

average_runner

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Here's last year's thread, I expect to attend meetings from mid June, so will be in a position to answer questions from then.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057409820

As i said the main problem I had with it last year was the start, my first km took about 4:45 due to the crowds, so maybe a wave start.

Glencarraig

average_runner wrote: »

As i said the main problem I had with it last year was the start, my first km took about 4:45 due to the crowds, so maybe a wave start.

Perhaps if they didnt allow those pushing buggies up the front at the start it might be a little easier !!!

Phoole

Its a great race other than the start where its way too congested, unless you push yourself right to the front.

Krusty_Clown

Phoole wrote: »

Its a great race other than the start where its way too congested, unless you push yourself right to the front.

...and by all means you should... If you're confident that you'll finish in the top 20. There wouldn't be any congestion if people lined-up in the same order in which they finished. If you* push up to the front and don't finish at the front, you're part of the problem. It's not the race that causes congestion, it's the participants (unless there happens to be a specific pinch-point).

('one is', not 'you are').

average_runner

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

...and by all means you should... If you're confident that you'll finish in the top 20. There wouldn't be any congestion if people lined-up in the same order in which they finished. If you* push up to the front and don't finish at the front, you're part of the problem. It's not the race that causes congestion, it's the participants (unless there happens to be a specific pinch-point).

('one is', not 'you are').

In fairness the race should have waves or time zones. People are identifying the issues, if the race doesn't want to know, it will lose the numbers. Bad press spreads quickly

BeepBeep67

average_runner wrote: »

In fairness the race should have waves or time zones. People are identifying the issues, if the race doesn't want to know, it will lose the numbers. Bad press spreads quickly

The race does have time zones and participants are asked to select an appropriate category during the entry process and coloured numbers are issued to reflect this.
On the day participants are encouraged to start in their correct zone through a combination of signage and stewarding, but this is not over policed.
http://dlrbay10k.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-fstart.jpg

On this course total numbers are restricted and a wave start is not an option as the 1st k and last k use the same stretch of road. So the leaders are back through the start line in around 28 mins in which time the gantry needs to have been dismantled.

average_runner

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

The race does have time zones and participants are asked to select an appropriate category during the entry process and coloured numbers are issued to reflect this.
On the day participants are encouraged to start in their correct zone through a combination of signage and stewarding, but this is not over policed.
http://dlrbay10k.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-fstart.jpg

On this course total numbers are restricted and a wave start is not an option as the 1st k and last k use the same stretch of road. So the leaders are back through the start line in around 28 mins in which time the gantry needs to have been dismantled.

Last year there was no timezones marked out at the start, if there were it wasn't very visible. Wasn't just me that missed it, but loads others were complaining also.

The announcer didn't mention time zones either, spent most the time talking about the weather though.

Its an area that needs to improve, a small thing that could make a big difference.

BeepBeep67

average_runner wrote: »

Last year there was no timezones marked out at the start, if there were it wasn't very visible. Wasn't just me that missed it, but loads others were complaining also.

The announcer didn't mention time zones either, spent most the time talking about the weather though.

Its an area that needs to improve, a small thing that could make a big difference.

I'll pass that on re communication, the zones were marked as you entered from Newtownsmith green.

Krusty_Clown

average_runner wrote: »

In fairness the race should have waves or time zones. People are identifying the issues, if the race doesn't want to know, it will lose the numbers. Bad press spreads quickly

Absolutely. Just pointing out that pushing to the front is not the answer. It is the opposite of the answer. It is the problem!

Antwerp

Hi,

Have many registered for this race as haven't heard/seen much mentioned Even FB page seems to last have been updated in April? Do you still collect your number in Royal Marina on the Sat or Sun before the race?

Looking forward to it anyway as think it's a lovely if tough course given the hills at the start

Thanks

Killerz

Glencarraig wrote: »

Perhaps if they didnt allow those pushing buggies up the front at the start it might be a little easier !!!

Late response to this as I am only catching up on this thread now, but some people pushing buggies (if allowed in a given race) have every right to be towards the front... I think a wider, more sensible approach by participants is the way to go - that approach being.... BE REALISTIC!

joesoap5

Killerz wrote: »

Late response to this as I am only catching up on this thread now, but some people pushing buggies (if allowed in a given race) have every right to be towards the front... I think a wider, more sensible approach by participants is the way to go - that approach being.... BE REALISTIC!

I've never seen buggies up the front for a biggish race and would have no problem with them if the person has a clear path in front of them and is a decent runner otherwise its just like pushing a lawn mower towards people.

Killerz

joesoap5 wrote: »

I've never seen buggies up the front for a biggish race and would have no problem with them if the person has a clear path in front of them and is a decent runner otherwise its just like pushing a lawn mower towards people.

They're rarely seen up front as they are usually banned in races, which is up to the organiser. Headphones are also usually banned and are a much bigger danger to others. We usually see a fair amount of buggy runners at parkrun (where they are welcomed) and the runner would take good care in order to protect other participants and their own kids. I think the lawn mower analogy is a bit extreme.

My point in my first reply was in response to a blanket comment on buggies - if buggies are permitted, a participant has every right to take the buggy with them and like all race participants, act responsibly... And position themselves appropriately at the start.

Mousewar

Can you transfer your registration to another person? My wife registered but can't do it anymore. Can I take her place?

djemba djemba

http://dlrbay10k.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-fstart.jpg

I see the have increased the number of entries into the first pen this year. Up to a 100 this year. Think it was in around 30 last year. Although I am looking forward to see 100 runners all complete the course in under 35 minutes.

Also the toilets at the start line have moved also. They are the other side of the green now. Hopefully a few more of them also.

colin32

Registered for this last night. How tough is the first few km's?

Abhainn

colin32 wrote: »

Registered for this last night. How tough is the first few km's?

As described by Beepbeep 69 last year, :


Course is pretty straight forward, fully closed roads and well marshaled on the 60+ junctions [img]http://static.boards.ie/b//assets/img/sceditor/emoticons/shocked.png?v= cf4b3e00205fdacef925729204a6cf2b[/img]

1-3k relatively flat.
Starting at Newtownsmith, make your way up past Teddy's Ice Cream and onto Queen's Rd.
Turn down onto the lower road at the yacht club and continue until Crofton Tce, where you turn back onto the main road.
Keeping going until Seafield Ave and then turn up to the Monkstown Rd.

3k - 5.5k you are making your way up to the high point, but it's not consistent you have as much flat as up in that section.
Up into Monkstown, turn up Carrickbrennan Rd at the church, left at the roundabout onto Mounttown Upper and then Lower.
From there Glenageary Rd (halfway) up to the Sallynoggin Roundabout.

5.5k - 9.2k pretty quick, mainly downhill with a few flat sections
Down to Killiney Towers, Albert Rd, right turn at St. Catherine's, back through Eton Pk and down to Glasthule, turn down Link Rd at you are back at the start.

9.2k - Finish back through the start line and a cheeky little climb up past Teddy's Ice Cream Parlor then the last 400-500 is flat if not slightly downhill.

Extrasupervery

Anyone know how long reg is open for this? Have to register 4 of us and don't have the £££ tonight.

ChadHogan

Hi All,

Was just wondering if anybody could advise of a suitable place to park for this? Public Transport not an option unfortunately. Can't find any info on the website.

Cheers

KJ

Antwerp wrote: »

Hi,

Have many registered for this race as haven't heard/seen much mentioned Even FB page seems to last have been updated in April? Do you still collect your number in Royal Marina on the Sat or Sun before the race?

Looking forward to it anyway as think it's a lovely if tough course given the hills at the start

Thanks

I emailed them to find out. Number collection is in The Royal Marine at the following times:
Sunday 11.00-17.30
Monday 8.30-9.30

Antwerp

Great, thanks for that KJ


Chadhogan usually you can park on streets within the town just not down by the Ferry terminal as it (and the roads which form part of the race) will be closed off. There is also a carpark under Royal Marine hotel. Btw just to warn you the race starts down by Teddys ice cream shop which is probably 1km from the Ferry terminal just so you can factor that in.

Best if luck to all

frash

Question for BeepBeep67
Are they back to the original t-shirt supplier?
I know there was an issue with the sizing with the supplier they used last year.

BeepBeep67

Hello All,

I been away since last week warm weather training drinking

To answer a few questions:

@Mousewar - can you contact the office info@dlrbay10k.ie regarding the transfer?

@Extrasupervery - online entry open until Saturday night, manual entries available on Sunday at the Royal Marine Hotel.

@ChadHogan - never any issue with parking, there is usually plenty of on street parking and other managed car parks available on the day (consider how quickly you need to leave after the event and where you park when deciding where to park - there will be road closures in place).

@frash - I haven't seen the t shirt in the flesh, but I'm told the sizing issue was rectified.

Extrasupervery

Thanks a million BeepBepp, all registered now just looking forward to it.

colin32

Collected number & tshirt earlier. The sizes are a little off.

I'm usually a large to X large, so went with the X large option, and it's like a compression top its that tight on me. It's going straight in the recycling bag

Looking forward to the run tomorrow, hopefully the weather is decent

frash

Great day today with near perfect conditions.

Managed to get a PB unexpectedly given the hilly course.
51:40

Must find a flatter 10km race soon to aim for a sub 50.

DubOnHoliday

Was down there today stewarding with a group from Kilcoole AC. Well done to the organisers and runners. Great running from our club too. I recognised the 2nd placed runner Karol from an IMRA race a few weeks back.

solidasarock

Great event today. Perfect weather as well.


Only been running since June but I managed to beat my PB for 0-5km by a few seconds and completed the race in just over 54 minutes.

If I am still in town next year Ill be sure to do this race again.

colin32

well organised race, and good conditions

First 5km is challenging, but if you hang in there, you can make the time up on the 2nd 5km

I finished with a pb by over minute, 51.02.

Need to find a flat 10km to break the 50 minute mark

BeepBeep67

Thanks for the feedback:

Results: http://www.myrunresults.com/events/dlr_bay_run_10k/318/details
Pix: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dominic67/albums/72157668867007543

donnacha

My second tune up race for DCM this year. Home in 42:14 for a shiny new PB (44:04 on the same course in 2014). Thanks to all the boardsies out there supporting... spotted marthastew a few times, KC and Mr Stew out there. Was quite warm for the first stretch out to the monkstown turn. Took on some water just after 5km which was desperately needed and in hindsight that hill up to glenageary wasn't quite as bad a I remember it from 2 years ago.

Delighted with the PB as my average pace was faster than I'd managed at the 5 mile race series in June. Race series HM will be the final tune up before the main event.

Thanks to the organisers for a superbly ran event (again).

MonkstownHoop

Great race today, ran this last year in 50 mins and was really only hoping to better that as the hills don't exactly lend themselves to pbs but I came out of the race disappointed with 45.36 as I was so close to a sub 45, but theres always next year :-)

My only gripe would be the medal being the exact same as last year, would be nice if the year was engraved onto the medal rather than the ribbon.

colin32

One thing I forgot to mention. Only downside was the water in cups, it's a pain in the whole, you have to stop to take water on board

frash

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

My only gripe would be the medal being the exact same as last year, would be nice if the year was engraved onto the medal rather than the ribbon.

:rolleyes:
My 5 year old had the same complaint.

dublin runner

No reason to stop just because the water is in cups. I personally hate bottles. Dangerous underfoot, a complete waste of money/bad for the environment and generally unnecessary.



A really enjoyable race today. For me it was excellently organised run on an interesting (and testing!) course. Great to have closed roads so close to the city.

Glencarraig

Looking at the results, the age grouping is all over the place. I was put in the M55, should be in M60, lots of other guys in the same position. The "should be" winner of the M50 finished nearly 6 minutes ahead of the stated M50 winner but was lumped in with the M45. Stewards enquiry needed there methinks

BeepBeep67

Glencarraig wrote: »

Looking at the results, the age grouping is all over the place. I was put in the M55, should be in M60, lots of other guys in the same position. The "should be" winner of the M50 finished nearly 6 minutes ahead of the stated M50 winner but was lumped in with the M45. Stewards enquiry needed there methinks

Any results queries can be sent to ronan@myresults.com and info@dlrbay10k.ie - thanks

Glencarraig

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Any results queries can be sent to ronan@myresults.com and info@dlrbay10k.ie - thanks

Yep, did that, thanks

Glencarraig

Glencarraig wrote: »

Looking at the results, the age grouping is all over the place. I was put in the M55, should be in M60, lots of other guys in the same position. The "should be" winner of the M50 finished nearly 6 minutes ahead of the stated M50 winner but was lumped in with the M45. Stewards enquiry needed there methinks

Also in the wrong age group, chip time the same as gun time in error,overall an enjoyable event however

Glencarraig

Deleted User wrote: »

Also in the wrong age group, chip time the same as gun time in error,overall an enjoyable event however

Same here, took me at least 25 seconds to cross the start line. Chip & gun time the same.

Antwerp

Great race, didn't find hills as bad as last year also ran 5mins quicker than 2015 race (and an earlier 10km in 2016) so delighted with my PB!!!

Positives very well organised and a beautiful scenic course (if challenging).

On the flip side the start happened very quickly with no count down per se and they should really have skips after the water stations as people were lobbing empty cups everywhere which wasn't great.

Definitely be back next yr

Limestone123

Hi there, I really enjoyed the race too. Can anyone explain the sub categories to me? Or is there a link to explain what the initials mean. I think I might be in the wrong sub category. Thanks.

Glencarraig

MS is senior men, up to age 44, M45 is 45-49 you get the drift. It seems that myrunresults made a cock up of the age categories and decided to delete the F50, F60, M50 and M60 because they said that it would only "confuse" people, this despite the fact that prior to the race there was no notice given as to which age cats there would be prizes for, citing "instructions from the organisers". My argument is that surely people in whatever age catagory are entitled to see how they performed against others in their age group, deleting these age cats is just an insult to the people who forked out €25 to run this race. I really hope the organisers look at using a different timing company next year.

adrian522

The timing company surely don't decide what age categories there are, sounds like your issue should be with the organisers rather than the timing company.

uvox

Will they get the Bay 10K signs down this year in time for the ironman 70.3? By the looks of it... no...

Glencarraig

adrian522 wrote: »

The timing company surely don't decide what age categories there are, sounds like your issue should be with the organisers rather than the timing company.

Yes the organisers decided what age groups were getting prizes but that is no reason to just delete the results from the non prize groups, that was a decision of the timing company who told me they did it because "it would confuse people" !!. I would just have liked to see where in my own age group I finished. I'm sure others would also.