Would a Global War make for a better world afterwards?

Hitchens

Millions would die fairly quickly but everyone alive now will die anyway.

Cities would be demolished completely but the rebuilding would mean no unemployment.

So perhaps the survivors and future generations would benefit from a vastly reduced population.

All humanity equal afterwards.............. hopefully?

Then a great peace for a long time................. maybe?

MRnotlob606

How many usernames mention Hitchens? Is his cult still strong?

PARlance

It's definitely worth a shot.

cormie

Only if religion was wiped out and replaced with teachings of compassion for all living things.

_Kaiser_

Well straight-off I'd suggest having a look at WWI and II and the effects that the aftermath of the former had on leading to the latter in regards your last 2 points.

The notion that millions (or maybe billions with modern warfare tech) dying so as to thin the herd a bit is a tad extreme don't you think, but we get full employment is it?

Riiight!

KomradeBishop

Would the use of all/most of the worlds nuclear weapons make for a better world afterwards?

saabsaab

A full nuclear war would cause a nuclear winter and result in huge starvation & disease world wide not to mention nuclear contamination for centuries. A few pockets of survivors would eek out an existance in out of the way places back to stone age really.

Iwasfrozen

saabsaab wrote: »

A full nuclear war would cause a nuclear winter and result in huge starvation & disease world wide not to mention nuclear contamination for centuries. A few pockets of survivors would eek out an existance in out of the way places back to stone age really.

I wonder how long it would take us to reclaim lost technology, a new renaissance in a way.

Cee-Jay-Cee

It would only be worth it if those who caused the war all died and innocent people didn't suffer.

Del2005

Just don't give the Apes guns

saabsaab

Probably as long as the last time. (10 to 20 thousand years, depending on the way it pans out) Knowledge would become legends in the new stone age world as survival would be all people can think about.

GreatDefector

Sounds like the plot of a dan brown novel TBH...

aaronjumper

Might make a better world for whoever wins.

Duiske

So the way to World Peace is to blow half the planet to **** in a nuclear war ? And the way to stop mass killings in religious wars is to start a war against the religious and kill them all. Probably makes sense to someone.

_Kaiser_

<SNIP - re-reg>

Arnie (as always) has the answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CeiPJaHuoQ

MRnotlob606

Male to Female ratio in Russia has still not recovered due to effects of World War II. A serious indication of how nasty and brutish wars are.

the evasion_kid

Could have sworn I had a post here....then vamoosh?!?

Iwasfrozen

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Male to Female ratio in Russia has still not recovered due to effects of World War II. A serious indication of how nasty and brutish wars are.

Huh? Why would the effects still be noticeable?

WW2 ended in 1945, even if a person was 12 then. The very earliest I imagine a boy would have been fighting in the Russian army in 1945, they would be 83 now and probably dead.

So wouldn't the lost generation have fixed itself by now?

Pherekydes

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Could have sworn I had a post here....then vamoosh?!?

I think the mods removed some of the more inflammatory posts and their replies.

Capt'n Midnight

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I wonder how long it would take us to reclaim lost technology, a new renaissance in a way.

No time at all.

We have things like books and disks and there'd be examples of high tech all over the place.

However, there aren't that many places that can do stuff at 22nm or smaller, or do large LCD screens so you'd have to live without new tech for a while.


Give it a decade or so and we should have printable flexible displays so lets wait till then before taking the gamble.


After the black death people got individually richer because of inheritances and better wages because of the labour shortage. But it was still a smaller pie, but with far less people sharing it.

The_Valeyard

Not a world war. We need an alien invasion. That would unite us.

seamus

Large wars don't automatically result in a period of peace and prosperity afterwards. The world was completely ****ed between WWI and WWII. This is basically why WWII happened in the first place.

And six years after that started we dropped the first nukes. Imagine if for whatever reason WWII hadn't started until 1949, when the US and Germany had already invented nuclear weapons.

The world is better now, 70 years later, but it was still pretty ****ed up by WWII till the late 80s.

luftmensch

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Not a world war. We need an alien invasion. That would unite us.

If there's a hostile civilization that is advanced enough to invade another planet, or in our case solar system, then a unified resistance would be futile. Might as well kiss our arse's goodbye.


If we're going to reduce population, then we should bunk off of all the idiots. Facebook would be a good hunting ground. :P

Discodog

Previous wars are no guide. In WW1 & WW2 whole continents were pretty unaffected apart from losing men. WW3 would affect the whole World.

Del2005

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

We have things like books and disks and there'd be examples of high tech all over the place.


Give it a decade or so and we should have printable flexible displays so lets wait till then before taking the gamble.

Try getting data off a 5.25" floppy today, give it a few years and it'll be impossible. With companies pushing everything to the cloud a few EMP weapons will have us back in the stone age, but with very few people able to survive.

Hitchens

cormie wrote: »

Only if religion was wiped out and replaced with teachings of compassion for all living things.

If we could ditch religion and just leave it at that.

wes

Another global war would probably result in the extinction of Humans.......

wakka12

Discodog wrote: »

Previous wars are no guide. In WW1 & WW2 whole continents were pretty unaffected apart from losing men. WW3 would affect the whole World.

whaaa? unaffected? As many civilians were killed as soldiers in ww2..entire european cities were literally burnt to cinders..75% of jews were killed in europe.. some continents were unaffected yeah like north and south america but the continents where the real war was happening such as europe and east asia were hardly 'unaffected'??

wakka12

I think you'd be right if the war didnt involve nuclear weapons, but theres no chance of that really. Nothing positive will ever ever come of nuclear war for anybody, maybe the planet itself hundreds of years later when we are all dead and the radiation goes away but thats it

mickrock

Hitchens wrote: »

Cities would be demolished completely but the rebuilding would mean no unemployment.

The following scheme would work better and there'd be no bloodshed.


Scheme for Full Employment

Recommends that:
1.Jobless people be employed as security guards
1. in their own homes.
2. They have official-looking uniforms.
Benefits:
• Reduces the number of unemployed.
• They no longer sit around all day doing nothing.
• Instead, they sit around all day maintaining the
security of the premises.
• Fosters social responsibility.
• Increases self-respect (from wearing nice uniform).
• Develops skill-set.
• Reduces neighbourhood crime/terrorism.
Alternative role:
• For those who prefer not to be security guards, we
recommend employment as Home Administrators.
Funding:
• To be funded by the government (ie public funding).
Why should the government fund it? Well, the government already spends billions of pounds of public money funding job creation – eg schemes such as the New Deal, Regional Selective Assistance Grants, etc. Why not go a small step further to fight the evil of unemployment?
And, anyway, would you prefer public funding of idleness? Surely it's better to fund respectable jobs.

http://www.anxietyculture.com/scheme.htm

jimgoose

Didn't work the last two times.