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2016 Cull of WWE's fringe talent

  • 06-05-2016 1:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭


    A lot of buzz on the old Twitter machine with a lot of folks expecting WWE cuts similar to the Black Thursday cuts a few years back (The time when JTG, Drew Galloway and Matt Sydal to name a few got cut).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    A lot of buzz on the old Twitter machine with a lot of folks expecting WWE cuts similar to the Black Thursday cuts a few years back (The time when JTG, Drew Galloway and Matt Sydal to name a few got cut).

    Been seeing that a lot too. i fear the social outcasts could be gone but it has been a while since wrestlers have been cut. Id say its a tough time for wrestlers now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Brother Sky, I feel like the word 'fear' may not be the right one here. I fear death. Prelim guys getting cut...not so much ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Ah imguessing its guys who havent been used much, like Sandow, Cameron, possible Adam Rose due to his suspension. Possibly Titus due to his heat (all just guess on from me).

    possibly Wade Barrett too who was rumored to be leaving and written off recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Monokne wrote: »
    Brother Sky, I feel like the word 'fear' may not be the right one here. I fear death. Prelim guys getting cut...not so much ;-)

    Ah I don't like hearing guys are being made unemployed, Id fear for them too. Id fear to lose my job, esp if its one I loved like most guys in wrestling.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Based on how they are used I'd be looking at:

    El Torito
    Cameron (please)
    Adam Rose
    Barett (maybe an early release)

    Just realized (and it's the reason she should be safe) that Rosa Mendez is off on Maternity leave.

    Hope Sandow gets through this but if it's as big a list as your suggesting you would think there will be some more names, like The Ascension maybe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Ah I don't like hearing guys are being made unemployed, Id fear for them too. Id fear to lose my job, esp if its one I loved like most guys in wrestling.

    Perhaps I misunderstood, but Sky said he feared they'd be gone, not he feared for them. That would have made more sense. I thought he was sweating on the idea he wouldn't be able to see Bo Dallas doing laps of the ring in his singlet anymore :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Ah im guessing its guys who havent been used much, like Sandow, Cameron, possible Adam Rose due to his suspension. Possibly Titus due to his heat (all just guess on from me)..

    I think with the amount Titus is used in the quit smoking and cancer cure charities he should be ok!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Monokne wrote: »
    Perhaps I misunderstood, but Sky said he feared they'd be gone, not he feared for them. That would have made more sense. I thought he was sweating on the idea he wouldn't be able to see Bo Dallas doing laps of the ring in his singlet anymore :)

    Sorry Fam i meant i fear for them as im not sure how they would do on the indies.

    Bo dallas will be fine hes got hes rap career as bo rida to fall back on.

    Now that i think of it is hornswoggle still employed i havent heard of him since he got a wellness ban


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    I think with the amount Titus is used in the quit smoking and cancer cure charities he should be ok!

    Id imagine he is too, but ya know Vince... he loves making examples out of people.

    From what Ive read, 5-6 at least expected. Nothing confirmed yet though.

    Id be thinking more of people there awhile who havent been used in a while.

    I wonder how safe is Alex Riley, He's been back in NXT the last few months but he always struck me as someone who could go.

    My guesses are Adam Rose, Wade Barrett, Conor of The Ascension, Cameron and El Torito.

    Also there was rumours of Jack swagger leaving after the European tour that had speculation going crazy on Twitter for a day, but it turned out to be nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,483 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Based on how they are used I'd be looking at:

    El Torito
    Cameron (please)
    Adam Rose
    Barett (maybe an early release)

    Just realized (and it's the reason she should be safe) that Rosa Mendez is off on Maternity leave.

    Hope Sandow gets through this but if it's as big a list as your suggesting you would think there will be some more names, like The Ascension maybe

    Americans don't get maternity leave like here, I work for an American company and a girl state side was out 3 months maternity

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Surely Hornswaggle has to go now as well.

    Alicia Fox would be another.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Americans don't get maternity leave like here, I work for an American company and a girl state side was out just a month maternity

    True although I do believe that is the reason she is not with the company atm and I also believe that despite them maybe having done similar in the past they would not get rid atm so as to avoid the PR, something I think they are much more conscious of these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    cian68 wrote: »

    And A-Ry :(

    And so the cull begins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    I think this thread should be renamed the 2016 future endevoured thread!

    An internet troll who used to post here claims there will be 5 guys and one woman fired!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Surely Hornswaggle has to go now as well.

    Alicia Fox would be another.

    Seems your right on one anyway.

    Think Foxy might be okay thanks to Total Divas though especially with The Bellas leaving that show which will mean they won't want to change up the entire cast at once.

    One would assume El Torito will go as well since his bull fighting tag team have been repackaged without him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    Zeb Colter gone. Also with OTT booking Bull Dempsey I'm genuinely curious will we see Alex Riley or someone showing up over here soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    sky88 wrote: »
    Sorry Fam i meant i fear for them as im not sure how they would do on the indies.

    Bo dallas will be fine hes got hes rap career as bo rida to fall back on.

    Now that i think of it is hornswoggle still employed i havent heard of him since he got a wellness ban

    No, I get you now.

    Would be unfortunate to see a bunch of guys canned. Still, I think some of them would do ok on the indies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Also there was rumours of Jack swagger leaving after the European tour that had speculation going crazy on Twitter for a day, but it turned out to be nothing.

    Swagger is running his contract out to do MMA. That's been known for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Americans don't get maternity leave like here, I work for an American company and a girl state side was out 3 months maternity

    My cousin works for the US government and got 6 weeks off when she had TWINS :eek:

    Rosa should be ok though. Bad pub to cut her less than a year after the kid is born


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Loughc wrote: »
    And A-Ry :(

    And so the cull begins.

    Not sad on riley on twitter the guy seems crazy at times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I have sympathy for Riley in the sense he gave up a cushy announcing gig because he was passionate about wrestling. I admire that in a person. It certainly looks naive now, mind you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    Monokne wrote: »
    I have sympathy for Riley in the sense he gave up a cushy announcing gig because he was passionate about wrestling. I admire that in a person. It certainly looks naive now, mind you.

    Good point. I wonder if Corey Graves feels his injury problems were a blessing in disguise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Why did they give up on Riley so quickly? This time 5 years ago he was having a feud with Miz which I think he went over in. Miz had just lost the WWE title at the time.

    Then he gets injured and never appears on the main roster again? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Why did they give up on Riley so quickly? This time 5 years ago he was having a feud with Miz which I think he went over in. Miz had just lost the WWE title at the time.

    Then he gets injured and never appears on the main roster again? :confused:

    Backstage trouble with cena apparently.

    Plus messing up the rumble finish cant have helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Ryback perhaps after his recent actions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    What Rumble finish did he mess up and when?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    gimmick wrote: »
    What Rumble finish did he mess up and when?

    cant remember the year and exact details but it was the year cena vs miz at wrestlemania.

    Riley somehow eliminated himself by accident when he was supposed to be involved in miz eliminating cena so they had to think of a new finish in the ring .

    El torito and cameron gone too.

    Not surprised after camerons post yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Torito, Hornswoggle, Riley, Cameron, Zeb Colter and Santino Marella are gone. I thought Santino was gone ages ago to be honest.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    wooo got my wish re-Cameron


    I hate her catchphrase but it is fitting now... Girl Bye

    So El Torito, Hornswoggle, Riley, Cameron, Zeb Colter and Santino Marella... wonder is that it?

    absolutely nothing affected by those loses anyway (even though I like Zeb), in general their time was up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    Pentecost wrote: »
    Torito, Hornswoggle, Riley, Cameron, Zeb Colter and Santino Marella are gone. I thought Santino was gone ages ago to be honest.

    Once the Colons were given a new gimmick, Torito was pretty much just waiting for his p45.

    Cameron to get a career in WWE and last as long as she did was a miracle, once the dance act broke up she was a goner. If she was smart she saved her money well, once you aren't even used on NXT you know you are pretty much a goner.

    Hornswoggle should have gone a good two or three years ago. I think this was the guy Feinstein was talking about, heard he's a big collector of RF shoot interviews and i'm sure we be getting one with him soon enough, should be a interesting one.

    Poor Riley had potential but once he pissed off Cena he was a goner. Seems a bit eccentric on Twitter, could have been a solid mid carder if he didn't open his mouth and upset the wrong people. His shoot interview could be a bitter one.

    Santino I thought was gone years ago and Zeb only had a short run with his act.

    I'm surprised Wade Barrett and Ryback haven't been mentioned yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Hornswoggle lasted 10 years at the company. Fair play to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,696 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Surely Hornswaggle has to go now as well.

    Alicia Fox would be another.

    200_s.gif

    Gerry let's not talk rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    One would think they're freeing up slots for the NXT call-ups.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Barrett officially gone.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Ageyev wrote: »
    One would think they're freeing up slots for the NXT call-ups.

    Except Barett it's not like these names were even doing anything anyway, I think they are just doing some much needed trimming of the fat especially as NXT is always recruiting. I mean just look at the list of guys who appear on NXT house shows and not the actual NXT network show. (according to wiki, thats 30 different people inc the likes of Tino Sabbatelli, Shane Haste, Rich Swann & Hugo Knox)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Except Barett it's not like these names were even doing anything anyway, I think they are just doing some much needed trimming of the fat especially as NXT is always recruiting. I mean just look at the list of guys who appear on NXT house shows and not the actual NXT network show. (according to wiki, thats 30 different people inc the likes of Tino Sabbatelli, Shane Haste, Rich Swann & Hugo Knox)

    You have to think there will be a few NXT releases as well


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Damian Sandow gone now too.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Barrett officially gone.

    If the office didn't ring him and go Wade I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you... Then what's the point.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Damian Sandow gone now too.

    booooo!

    Such a waste. Who will save the unwashed masses now?

    He is one that will actually do pretty well on the indies though was actually getting a good crowd reaction whenever they let him appear on TV up until the end.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Randy Orton's WWE Superstar page would appear to have been deleted :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Randy Orton's WWE Superstar page would appear to have been deleted :eek:

    Ironically you get Bad News Barret message


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Twitter chatter that Ryback is done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Damian Sandow gone now too.
    Bit surprised by that one! The roster is crazily bloated with all those new additions from NXT (and a few other really needing to be called up in the near future like Devitt) though.

    Also, if Ryder doesn't get released in this run, it'll be exclusively because he had a bump in relevance with that pointless intercontinental title run.



    Didn't Orton make a big rant back around Christmas about how the dirt sheets know nothing and he'd definitely be back for Mania?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Bit surprised by that one! The roster is crazily bloated with all those new additions from NXT (and a few other really needing to be called up in the near future like Devitt) though.

    Also, if Ryder doesn't get released in this run, it'll be exclusively because he had a bump in relevance with that pointless intercontinental title run.



    Didn't Orton make a big rant back around Christmas about how the dirt sheets know nothing and he'd definitely be back for Mania?

    Ryder is a good jobber to have around and can be elevated easier than a lot others to be a decent hand in the midcard.


    Orton I genuinely forgot all about until your post, I'd assume he is on huge money and when you consider he never really moved the needle when the machine behind him, he is someone that I am sure their are conversations about.

    I'd still be stunned if let go though, the likes of Vince, Cena and Trips probably all think he has something to offer the company.


    Horrible to see people lose their job, but if I am honest I'l only really miss Sandow and not sure what more could be done with him, for all his good mic work he isn't a great worker in the ring and he could be back in a few years anyhow.

    Hornswoggle I'l give props to for hanging around so long I suppose!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Twitter chatter that Ryback is done.

    Can I just ask who you follow or what have you to see all the chatter? Is there anyone specific?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    ibFoxer wrote: »
    Can I just ask who you follow or what have you to see all the chatter? Is there anyone specific?

    Reddit mainly. /r/squaredcircle. Find everyone else does the research there quicker than I do :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Ryder is a good jobber to have around and can be elevated easier than a lot others to be a decent hand in the midcard.


    Orton I genuinely forgot all about until your post, I'd assume he is on huge money and when you consider he never really moved the needle when the machine behind him, he is someone that I am sure their are conversations about.

    I'd still be stunned if let go though, the likes of Vince, Cena and Trips probably all think he has something to offer the company.


    Horrible to see people lose their job, but if I am honest I'l only really miss Sandow and not sure what more could be done with him, for all his good mic work he isn't a great worker in the ring and he could be back in a few years anyhow.

    Hornswoggle I'l give props to for hanging around so long I suppose!
    Considering Orton's lack of options outside of wrestling and complete lack of experience outside of the WWE, I could only see him being gone for a brief patch while he swallows his pride and takes a pay cut.
    Orton can have value for sure, at the very least I'm sure they'd want him to put over Reigns. Was mostly just wondering whether any further news has came out about his injury, I know he's a guy who has a rep for not rushing back from injuries (fair play to him on that), but he originally was supposed to be back /around/ wrestlemania time?

    Maybe they're holding him off for a big return Orton vs Reigns summerslam match?
    I mean, even with Reigns as **** as he is, Reigns vs Cena, in their minds at least, should be a potential WM main event so the idea of going to that for Summerslam seems nuts to me.



    At this stage they're stuck with Rosa Mendez, aren't they? I mean, have they ever released the mother of a small child?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I would think Rosa has a lot of dirt on old Michael P.S. that she could dish if she wanted to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    Sad to see Sandow go. I'd have a lot of guys on the chopping block long before him.

    Not really bothered about the others. There's a few more I wouldn't miss either.

    Rose will be lucky to survive the night and Ryder's minor resurgence may save him for now.


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