Formula 1 2016: Round 4 - Russian Grand Prix

Charlie-Bravo

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Lack lustre driver's press conference yesterday. P1 pretty much business as usual in speeds for the relative teams - installing that Rosberg was a good 7-10ths ahead. Mercedes probably using two different setups to see which is the faster way around the track.. Let's see what P2 brings to the mix.

Harika

In training, people are circling 41 laps already with a supersoft set, while the race has 53 laps, so expect a one stop snore festival.

Charlie-Bravo

Vettel suffering electrical problems today causing him to miss most of FP2. I'm hoping he doesn't have reliability issues as seen in Bahrain. We need both Ferraris chasing Merc's trails.

PopePalpatine

I just noticed that just before they cut to a commercial break, Setanta's coverage shows a CGI clip of two duelling cars which look a lot like Jordan 191s.

Jordan 199

Five place grid penalty for Vettel due to a gearbox change.

Jordan 199

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I just noticed that just before they cut to a commercial break, Setanta's coverage shows a CGI clip of two duelling cars which look a lot like Jordan 191s.

I like that clip because of the cars in it. Early 1990's cars.

Ghost Train

Williams leaving their laps late in Q2

McLaren not looking like making Q3

Ghost Train

Hamilton with PU failure, turbo problem
His bad start to season continues

I guess he'll start near back of grid unless they can fix it and he starts 10th...

edit:actually they think he wont take penalty for fix and might start 10th

skipper_G

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I like that clip because of the cars in it. Early 1990's cars.

Dude you like that clip because the cars remind you of username

skipper_G

Good stuff from Bottas, front row start is great.
Shame Hamilton had the problem, was a bit of an anti-climax.

Mighty from perez in comparison to hulk, out qualified both toro rosso and a red bull! Hopefully doesn't go too far backwards in the race

Harika

Massa kicks Rosberg out and we will have a great race at hand.

flazio

Harika wrote: »

Massa kicks Rosberg out and we will have a great race at hand.

From 4th? Or do you mean Bottas? Valteri is in an interesting position for the start, he'll either be nudging Rosberg for the lead or lining up for Round 3 of his tussle with Raikkonen.

Harika

I like Bottas more than Felipe, so he was my choice. lol

Cool_CM

Jaysus, Max's car didn't sound too healthy there!

Cool_CM

Say what you want about the Russians, but they have a great national anthem!

Ghost Train

Looking forward to this, hope mixed up grid gives good race. Mightnt be great if one stop for most... Would be nice if tyre performance isn't great

Cool_CM

Ghost Train wrote: »

Looking forward to this, hope mixed up grid gives good race. Mightnt be great if one stop for most... Would be nice if tyre performance isn't great

Same, there's not much that can be worse than 2014...

bnt

Talk from the team engineers there, suggests that 1-stop is not likely, because the Super Softs aren't going to last at these high track temperatures.

finnharpsboy

Vettel hit from behind

finnharpsboy

Vettel out after another hit from behind

bnt

Carbon fibre everywhere, safety car out.

Rossi IRL

Kyvat gonna be in trouble from Seb

Kxiii

Vettle and Ferrari are having a bad start to this season.

Shane732

Did Hamilton run wide and skip the corner?

Don't think he's in 5th by right.

skipper_G

Vettel driving the scooter himself

cherryghost

Can someone explain why hamilton and verstappen hasnt been penalised for skipping the chicane and powering on, overtaking cars in the process?

Ghost Train

Alonso up to 7th

Vettel hit by redbull... wont be happy

Harika

wow those bleeping machines are really awesome

cherryghost

Hamilton clearly passed 4 or 5 cars skipping the first corner

bnt

cherryghost wrote: »

Can someone explain why hamilton and verstappen hasnt been penalised for skipping the chicane and powering on, overtaking cars in the process?

IF they did that - which I can't say - and they got away with it among the chaos, good for them!

skipper_G

Are the replays not great or is just me ? Took ages to get the them and seemed like they didn't have a huge amount of camera angles

Harika

cherryghost wrote: »

Hamilton clearly passed 4 or 5 cars skipping the first corner

He "skipped" the crashed cars, if you remove them he didn't gain any advantage.

Cool_CM

More words between Seb and Kvyat after that one, I'd imagine.

Shane732

cherryghost wrote: »

Can someone explain why hamilton and verstappen hasnt been penalised for skipping the chicane and powering on, overtaking cars in the process?

It's a complete joke - not even picked up my Sky.

Shane732

Harika wrote: »

He "skipped" the crashed cars, if you remove them he didn't gain any advantage.

He skipped the corner and end up in 5th after not having a great start.

Rossi IRL

That second smash by Kyvat didn't look like an accident to me.

Harika

Shane732 wrote: »

He skipped the corner and end up in 5th after not having a great start.

If he hadn't skipped it, he would have needed to crash into the RedBull Vettel Sandwich.

skipper_G

Harika wrote: »

He "skipped" the crashed cars, if you remove them he didn't gain any advantage.

Good point, stewards will probably look at it but put it down to a necessary avoiding action.

Glad Kvyat got a penalty there he was reckless, he ruined his own race, his team mate's race, vettel's race and Perez's race. Stupid twonk

Shane732

Harika wrote: »

If he hadn't skipped it, he would have needed to crash into the RedBull Vettel Sandwich.

Or brake and take the corner like everyone else.

Is that not the point of having track limits?

Ghost Train

bnt wrote: »

Talk from the team engineers there, suggests that 1-stop is not likely, because the Super Softs aren't going to last at these high track temperatures.

The softs looked pretty bad on kvyat

Doing a short stint on them might be best
Hamiltons super softs don't look great right now

flazio

Typical Russia, caught out by a Dash cam.

Harika

Shane732 wrote: »

Or brake and take the corner like everyone else.

Is that not the point of having track limits?

You see, that is a philosophical question, cause at the end the marshalls didn't even investigate him or Verstappen.

Cool_CM

Shane732 wrote: »

Is that not the point of having track limits?

I know that it has been discussed at length, but that's the issue with all of these large concrete run-off areas: there is no real, direct consequence for exceeding track limits. Sure we saw it yesterday after qualifying too, in spite of the fact that it was something specifically brought up during the drivers' briefing. It isn't just Lewis either.

Harika

The undercut clearly didnt work for Bottas.

skipper_G

I'm certainly not a Hamilton fan so would be happy to see him get a penalty. Having said that from the limited footage we saw (because as I said before the replays are awful) I thought he had to avoid the accident in the middle of the track or else be a part of it. Better replays or some on board footage from Hamilton's car might prove otherwise.

flazio

That is harsh on Sainz. Didn't we see another incident like that earlier with no investigation?

Ghost Train

That seems harsh on Sainz, given the way the track turns at that point but hard to know

Nasser came back on a bit soon there after missing corner

skipper_G

Did hamilton get a penalty for that investigation in qualy yesterday? Same one Nasr just got a 5 second penalty for

Cool_CM

Ghost Train wrote: »

Nasser came back on a bit soon there after missing corner

Just got called on it there, 5 second penalty

flazio

skipper_G wrote: »

Did hamilton get a penalty for that investigation in qualy yesterday? Same one Nasr just got a 5 second penalty for

Nope, started 10th

Cool_CM

skipper_G wrote: »

Did hamilton get a penalty for that investigation in qualy yesterday? Same one Nasr just got a 5 second penalty for

Nope, he got his 2nd reprimand of the season, one more and he gets a 10 place grid penalty.