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"O" surnames

  • 20-04-2016 3:26pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


    Is it:
    1. O'Connell
    2. O Connell
    3. O ' Connell?

    For me it's O'Connell. I have cousins who spell it without the apostrophe and with a space between the O and the C. Irritates me.

    And why don't airlines and internet text input fields recognize the apostrophe? In the early days of the internet I could understand, but 25 years later -- come on!


Comments

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    FURET wrote: »
    I have cousins who spell is without the apostrophe and with a space between the O and the C.

    The cheek,

    I hope you've told them how they can and cannot spell their own names


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    The answer is option 1. End of story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Liam O wrote: »
    The answer is option 1. End of story.

    Bit rich coming from you, Liam O

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Crap thread.

    O'/ 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,158 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    annascott wrote: »
    Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

    "Of Connell" is technically correct, the best kind of correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    astrofool wrote: »
    "Of Connell" is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

    Exactly, enough of this hipster style dropping the f in favour of a '. Who do they thing they are fooling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,005 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    O' Connell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    annascott wrote: »
    Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

    Ah no. Then surely you'd have to drop De, del, de la, Fitz-, Kil- and Gil- prefixes as well.

    Keep em all, I say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    annascott wrote: »
    Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...
    Why?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    °Connell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    Why?

    too Oirish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    annascott wrote: »
    too Oirish
    Oh FFS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭pm.


    We dropped the O' for the soup kitchens 😠


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Its the initials that bug me. If you're Tommy O'Connor then you're TO, not TOC.

    Well, when I say it bugs me it doesn't all that much.

    TO'C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    annascott wrote: »
    too Oirish

    In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

    Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    What really gets me is people adding an "O'" when there isn't one. They see a surname like Rourke or Connell and automatically insert an O' at the start. Fecking bowsies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    Anyone that uses options 2 or 3 are just spacers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    maudgonner wrote: »
    In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

    Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.
    I'm not defending the other poster's obviously tongue in cheek suggetion but the above makes no sense. Why would we need to wait for everyone else to do something before we do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    FURET wrote: »
    Is it:
    1. O'Connell
    2. O Connell
    3. O ' Connell?

    Neither. It's Ó Conaill

    *runs*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Bit rich coming from you, Liam O

    :pac:

    Liam and Liamo were taken 7 years ago.

    The space still annoys me to this day :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I'm not defending the other poster's obviously tongue in cheek suggetion but the above makes no sense. Why would we need to wait for everyone else to do something before we do?

    The poster suggested that the reason for dropping prefixes was that they were 'too Oirish'.

    I'm pointing out that many languages & countries of origin have equivalent prefixes & suffixes. It's far from unique to Ireland. Why should we drop them if others aren't? There would seem to be no justification for doing so, other than some imagined national embarrassment that the user is experiencing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    maudgonner wrote: »
    The poster suggested that the reason for dropping prefixes was that they were 'too Oirish'.

    I'm pointing out that many languages & countries of origin have equivalent prefixes & suffixes. It's far from unique to Ireland. Why should we drop them if others aren't? There would seem to be no justification for doing so, other than some imagined national embarrassment that the user is experiencing.

    I think he was taking the piss.

    That they are culturally Irish I'm not disputing, I'm disputing your logic that we can only drop prefixes if every other country does it first. That makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,067 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    maudgonner wrote: »
    In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

    Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.


    A few good prefixes from that list:

    Bint

    Da

    Naka

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    annascott wrote: »
    Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

    The Kellys have already done this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    The Kellys have already done this.

    This fella hasn't...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_O%27Kelly

    ...and even though he is an awful nice fella I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he doesn't know how to spell his own name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭esforum


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    But then we wouldnt have such great nicknames as JOC, DOC or the infamous COC / KOC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I think he was taking the piss.

    That they are culturally Irish I'm not disputing, I'm disputing your logic that we can only drop prefixes if every other country does it first. That makes no sense.

    It makes no sense to me to drop them at all.

    Why do you feel that another poster can be tongue in cheek but my reply can't? I see a flaw in your logic too...


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