FREE IPhone 5s €25 a month carphone warehouse

lcstress2012

Has anyone bought this deal or phone and is it any good. Im thinking of getting it as the price is worth it.

davo2001

How long is the contract and what calls/texts/data plan does it come with?

Edit: Here is the link for anyone interested:

http://www.carphonewarehouse.ie/free-iphone-5s

16GB / 24 month contract with all you can get data, and 100 "flexi units" (whatever the hell they are :P)

CantGetNoSleep

Can't imagine still using this in 2019

dodzy

davo2001 wrote: »

How long is the contract and what calls/texts/data plan does it come with?

€25.41 p/m. On 3. 100 flex units and Unlimited 4G data

Flex units = 1 minute talktime/1 unit. (national landlines and mobile)
2 texts = 1 unit.

Might suit some considering Whatsapp / viber availability

Curb Your Enthusiasm

It's a three year old phone. Two year contract. Not such a great deal IMO. Great way for them to clear out old stock...

€610 spent over the two years. Not free certainly..

galljga1

Its on Three which is the most complained about network on boards and is rubbish in most areas in which I rotate so I personally would not touch it with a barge pole.

pajero12

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

It's a three year old phone. Two year contract. Not such a great deal IMO. Great way for them to clear out old stock...

€610 spent over the two years. Not free certainly..

This kind of breakdown always makes me laugh! So you expect to get your calls/texts and data for nothing? The phone is subsidised as part of the plan

Curb Your Enthusiasm

pajero12 wrote: »

This kind of breakdown always makes me laugh! So you expect to get your calls/texts and data for nothing? The phone is subsidised as part of the plan

Obviously, yes it is subsidised.

But, I think €610 over a two year period for a three year old phone is still too much, even with your bundle charges.

galljga1

The phone is probably worth approx 200 euro. Its not a bad phone but I would not pay more than that. 410 for two years is not bad if the package suits. However, it is... Three.

loyatemu

16GB storage is not great, only about 11GB will be available for use. As others have said 3's network is rubbish, so don't rely on being able to use cloud storage if you're out and about.

Johnny_Fontane

interesting hearing about 3's network. I'm on it for years in Dublin and never had a problem. If you're not on 3/O2, what are you on?

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

interesting hearing about 3's network. I'm on it for years in Dublin and never had a problem. If you're not on 3/O2, what are you on?

Meteor or Vodafone - much more stable networks IMO.

dodzy

galljga1 wrote: »

The phone is probably worth approx 200 euro. Its not a bad phone but I would not pay more than that. 410 for two years is not bad if the package suits. However, it is... Three.

€200 for a sealed 5S ? Dreamer.

loyatemu

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

interesting hearing about 3's network. I'm on it for years in Dublin and never had a problem. If you're not on 3/O2, what are you on?

It works OK on 4G in the city centre, once you start moving around it's very patchy (even when I have 4G/3G it often won't work or is maddeningly slow).

beauf

I see it at the same as the €20 prepaid but an extra €5 gets you a new phone + €49 So thats 169 (5x24+49) for the phone.
So if you didn't want an iPhone perhaps a 3rd gen Moto G 2GB/16GB and the prepaid sim is a better alternative.
But if you want an iPhone and your on a similar price per month on three already, its ok.
One thing about the iPhone it will still be supported in two years, get security updates, the vast majority of Android devices won't.
If you are a undemanding user I think the iPhone 5s will last ok. We've still got an iPhone 4 in use and everything works on that. Slow browsing is the main issue, but its workable.

If you want to pay more per month and get a better phone, then you shouldn't be reading this thread.

tonto24

Three is the worst network I have been on ( have been on meteor, vodafone and o2) but they are cheap as chips

podge018

three is the best i've been on, having been o2 and vodafone also.

Red Silurian

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

It's a three year old phone. Two year contract. Not such a great deal IMO. Great way for them to clear out old stock...

€610 spent over the two years. Not free certainly..

Some people spend €25/month on prepay with other networks!

colm_mcm

For anyone paying for a dongle, the unlimited* Internet has to be worth €20pm? An extra 5*24 for an iPhone is good. I assume you could use the sim in a different device anyway.

kala85

Ibood had an iphone 4 for 129e for sale last week. Was that a good deal

colm_mcm

kala85 wrote: »

Ibood had an iphone 4 for 129e for sale last week. Was that a good deal

5 year old model, most likely refurbished.
Depends how bad you want an iPhone!

beauf

kala85 wrote: »

Ibood had an iphone 4 for 129e for sale last week. Was that a good deal

I'd say no.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

kala85 wrote: »

Ibood had an iphone 4 for 129e for sale last week. Was that a good deal

Hell no. Would be slow as sh1t.

Sync

Most prepay plans are €20 a month, so if you look at this as €5 a month over 2 years the phone only really costs €120 which is probably not bad...

I don't own an iPhone so not sure how true this is, but don't most iPhones run slow as **** once iOS updates, meaning this will be pretty useless come 2018/2019

beauf

Sync wrote: »

...I don't own an iPhone so not sure how true this is, but don't most iPhones run slow as **** once iOS updates, meaning this will be pretty useless come 2018/2019

Its a problem with all phones. Android, Windows, IOS.

It was an issue with iPhone was iPhone 4s. Because they let it get
the current iOS 9.3.1 whereas the iPhone 4 was stopped on iOS 7.1.2. They should let iPhone 4s users go back a version. But Apple doesn't have a a zillion versions like Android. They have the current version, and that is it. They do let older versions see older compatible versions of the apps.

The iPhone 5s isn't as outdated as you think. Its a big jump in performance from older phones and much closer in spec to newer iPhones.

http://lowendmac.com/2016/hands-on-an-iphone-5s/

Still it will be 5yrs in 2018. So you have to be realistic. That said a 5yr old Android will have dropped off support far earlier. Most Android phones don't get updates at all. Even the top end ones often get dropped around 2yrs. The iPhone 4s is 5yrs old and got the latest one. But it wasn't able for it, it slowed down too much.

In short you'd only get this deal and buy an iPhone 5s if you want the cheapest iPhone you can want to be the three network. If that's not you. This is not the phone and plan for you.

Ardent

Beware the Three network (if you have a smart phone and plan to use data):

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057511941/1

bajer101

Sync wrote: »

Most prepay plans are €20 a month, so if you look at this as €5 a month over 2 years the phone only really costs €120 which is probably not bad...

I don't own an iPhone so not sure how true this is, but don't most iPhones run slow as **** once iOS updates, meaning this will be pretty useless come 2018/2019

It's not necessarily a bad deal, but if you are on 48months €10 a month plan the math is a bit different. You would pay an additional €360 which is probably a bit steep for this phone.

Sync

bajer101 wrote: »

It's not necessarily a bad deal, but if you are on 48months €10 a month plan the math is a bit different. You would pay an additional €360 which is probably a bit steep for this phone.

I was with 48 for all of 2 months, it's horrific. I'm with Three now, and it's pretty crap to be quite honest but the all you can eat data for €20 does it for me. If Vodafone ever matched it, I'd be gone.

Sync

beauf wrote: »

Its a problem with all phones. Android, Windows, IOS.

It was an issue with iPhone was iPhone 4s. Because they let it get
the current iOS 9.3.1 whereas the iPhone 4 was stopped on iOS 7.1.2. They should let iPhone 4s users go back a version. But Apple doesn't have a a zillion versions like Android. They have the current version, and that is it. They do let older versions see older compatible versions of the apps.

The iPhone 5s isn't as outdated as you think. Its a big jump in performance from older phones and much closer in spec to newer iPhones.

http://lowendmac.com/2016/hands-on-an-iphone-5s/

Still it will be 5yrs in 2018. So you have to be realistic. That said a 5yr old Android will have dropped off support far earlier. Most Android phones don't get updates at all. Even the top end ones often get dropped around 2yrs. The iPhone 4s is 5yrs old and got the latest one. But it wasn't able for it, it slowed down too much.

In short you'd only get this deal and buy an iPhone 5s if you want the cheapest iPhone you can want to be the three network. If that's not you. This is not the phone and plan for you.

If you have a 5 year old Android phone, running a version of Android that it was built for... then the phone isn't going to slow down. Why force the latest version on an old phone, if it's going to be sluggish.

CJmasgrande

An iPhone 5s with Vodafone is a whopping €55 per month

bajer101

Sync wrote: »

I was with 48 for all of 2 months, it's horrific. I'm with Three now, and it's pretty crap to be quite honest but the all you can eat data for €20 does it for me. If Vodafone ever matched it, I'd be gone.

I've been with 48months for a couple of years now and haven't had any problems. They use Three's network. The only thing I dislike is that they don't do data roaming abroad. The €10 plan does me as I only need 1GB data as I am nearly always on wifi except for my daily commute.

But it's horses for courses. If you are already on a €20 plan and need all you can eat data and don't need many minutes or texts, it's not a bad deal.

beauf

Sync wrote: »

If you have a 5 year old Android phone, running a version of Android that it was built for... then the phone isn't going to slow down. Why force the latest version on an old phone, if it's going to be sluggish.

5 years of security and hack fixes.
Compatibility with the app store and the apps within it.

beauf

Ardent wrote: »

Beware the Three network (if you have a smart phone and plan to use data):

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057511941/1

If you want better data services you'll have to pay more it. Which is fair enough.

bajer101 wrote: »

It's not necessarily a bad deal, but if you are on 48months €10 a month plan the math is a bit different. You would pay an additional €360 which is probably a bit steep for this phone.

Not unlimited data so not comparable.

The best part about unlimited it not getting bill shock when you go outside of your plan. Which is something someone paying as little as they can a month, is going to be a big issue.

bajer101

beauf wrote: »

Not unlimited data so not comparable.

The best part about unlimited it not getting bill shock when you go outside of your plan. Which is something someone paying as little as they can a month, is going to be a big issue.

All you can eat data is only desirable if you actually need it. 1GB does me, so unlimited is irrelevant.

You don't get bill shock if you are on a PAYG plan like 48months. If you use up your data, you can buy an extra 1GB for €3.

But as I've said, if you want unlimited, 4G data and if 100 flex units is enough, and if you would be happy enough with an iPhone 5s, then it is not a bad deal.

Xterminator

Sync wrote: »

I was with 48 for all of 2 months, it's horrific. I'm with Three now, and it's pretty crap to be quite honest but the all you can eat data for €20 does it for me. If Vodafone ever matched it, I'd be gone.

3 users in my house on 48 mobile. no issues at all. No frills service; price fantastic.

beauf

This thread isn't about if it doesn't suit you.

Its for those it does suit. While the 5s might be older its very capable phone, good camera, fingerprint sensor and Apple's eco system ticks a lot of boxes. It very likely to be still getting security updates yrs for now.

bajer101

beauf wrote: »

This thread isn't about if it doesn't suit you.

Its for those it does suit. While the 5s might be older its very capable phone, good camera, fingerprint sensor and Apple's eco system ticks a lot of boxes. It very likely to be still getting security updates yrs for now.

I was responding to the post below that stated the phone was effectively only costing €120. I was merely stating that if you were on 48months €10 per month plan (which lots of people are), then the phone would cost you €360. This information is useful to anyone who is on the €10 per month plan and who may have been thinking of going for this deal. If you are on a €10 per month deal and are happy with it, then you would be better off buying an iPhone 5s from Amazon for £250 (€320).

Sync wrote: »

Most prepay plans are €20 a month, so if you look at this as €5 a month over 2 years the phone only really costs €120 which is probably not bad...

I don't own an iPhone so not sure how true this is, but don't most iPhones run slow as **** once iOS updates, meaning this will be pretty useless come 2018/2019

beauf

bajer101 wrote: »

... I was merely stating that if you were on 48months €10 per month plan (which lots of people are), then the phone would cost you €360. ...

You're not correct though. Its unlimited data for 2yrs + iPhone.

You can't validly compare that to 48 as they don't have unlimited data on any of their plans.

bajer101

beauf wrote: »

You're not correct though. Its unlimited data for 2yrs + iPhone.

You can't validly compare that to 48 as they don't have unlimited data on any of their plans.

Let's try this again. The title of this thread is "Free iPhone 5s €25 a month carphone warehouse". This could suit you if you require all you can eat data and 100 flex units is sufficient. BUT, if you are on 48months €10 plan and do not require all you can eat data (or if you require more minutes or data), then this is not a good deal. It really is that simple and I don't understand what your problem is with me pointing this out. I have absolutely no problem with the BA and even recommended it to some people who I knew it would suit.

dermiestv

Sync wrote: »

I don't own an iPhone so not sure how true this is, but don't most iPhones run slow as **** once iOS updates, meaning this will be pretty useless come 2018/2019

Not true.
IOS 9.2 gave speed boost to older iphones such as my 2011 4s. See here

IOS 9.3 continued this trend, see here

beauf

The post quoted does not say I have a problem with pointing out its a bad plan if it doesn't suit you.

Its pointing out the maths is not accurate as you're paying for AYCE data. Its irrelevant if you don't use it. You are still paying for it. Its costing you (10x24) 240.

There a €10 three sim only plan that doesn't include AYCE data.
There a €20 three sim only plan that does AYCE data.
Theres a €25 2yr bill pay plan than includes AYCE and an iPhone.

So you're paying for (5x24+49) 169 for the phone.

If you don't want AYCE data then compare the Three sim only €10 plan with the 48 Sim only €10 plan.

bajer101

beauf wrote: »

The post quoted does not say I have a problem with pointing out its a bad plan if it doesn't suit you.

Its pointing out the maths is not accurate as you're paying for AYCE data. Its irrelevant if you don't use it. You are still paying for it. Its costing you (10x24) 240.

There a €10 three sim only plan that doesn't include AYCE data.
There a €20 three sim only plan that does AYCE data.
Theres a €25 2yr bill pay plan than includes AYCE and an iPhone.

So you're paying for (5x24+49) 169 for the phone.

If you don't want AYCE data then compare the Three sim only €10 plan with the 48 Sim only €10 plan.

The Math is correct. The free phone is only available with the 24 month €25 plan - otherwise it is €579 with the sim only plans.

So the total cost is 24 x€25 = €600. If you are currently on 48months €10 prepay plan, over two years you will pay, €240. So, if you switch to the Three plan to get the free phone, you will pay an additional €360 - which means that the "free" phone will actually cost you €360. (€600 - €240). If you don't require the data, this is not a good deal for you as you can buy a new 5S for about €300.

Kavrocks

beauf wrote: »

Its pointing out the maths is not accurate as you're paying for AYCE data. Its irrelevant if you don't use it. You are still paying for it. Its costing you (10x24) 240.

There a €10 three sim only plan that doesn't include AYCE data.
There a €20 three sim only plan that does AYCE data.
Theres a €25 2yr bill pay plan than includes AYCE and an iPhone.

So you're paying for (5x24+49) 169 for the phone.

The irony in pointing out a comparison between AYCE data and 1GB data is wrong and then comparing 100 flexi units to 350 flexi units :P

bajer101 wrote: »

The Math is correct. The free phone is only available with the 24 month €25 plan - otherwise it is €579 with the sim only plans.

The phone is actually only €379.99 with the sim only plan.

Either way who cares? Let people decide for themselves if it's a good deal everybody's usage is different and whether it's a good deal will depend on the specific person and not you. Take me for instance, if I was to go with this it would cost me €480 over the 2 years for the iPhone but that's irrelevant because my usage varies to everybody else's...

beauf

Kavrocks wrote: »

The irony in pointing out a comparison between AYCE data and 1GB data is wrong and then comparing 100 flexi units to 350 flexi units :P..

I kinda assumed that was obvious.

Its pointless to compare this plan to any other plan if THIS plan doesn't suit you. Since you are mainly paying for the plan (AYCE data specifically) not the phone. There's really nothing else of value in it. it makes no sense to separate the plan and the phone, or the AYCE from the rest if the plan.

Either the whole bundle makes sense, or none of it does. IMO.

beauf

Kavrocks wrote: »

...everybody's usage is different and whether it's a good deal will depend on the specific person and not you. ...

Its not rocket since, or some black art. The plan only suits a very narrow profile of people. I would say its targeting three prepay customers who mainly use AYCE data, who might want a cheap iPhone, for the purpose of customer retention. It offers no value to anyone else. A number of people have already commented on this, because its common sense.

pajero12

CJmasgrande wrote: »

An iPhone 5s with Vodafone is a whopping €55 per month

Unlimited Calls, Texts and 3GB of Data is 55 euro per month, The 5s is not...

BBMcQ

Jesus wept. No deal is good if you don't want or need the product or service being offered. If you are looking for minimal outlay, the iPhone ecosystem and no stress data usage, this is the best deal I've ever seen. I'm trying to force it onto my parents!

ely2207

Check it out, Meteor have €100 off iPhones

HungryJoey

I bought a 5s on 3 last year. The 5S still performs very well, good deal.

Don't be put off by its specs.

Agent Smith

Sync wrote: »

I was with 48 for all of 2 months, it's horrific. I'm with Three now, and it's pretty crap to be quite honest but the all you can eat data for €20 does it for me.

Arent they the same network?

Sync

Agent Smith wrote: »

Arent they the same network?

Yep, however the overall service offered is much much different.
The plans are also a good bit different. 48 constantly took credit off me because of some McAfee app on the phone (unable to uninstall w/out root) where as I never have that issue with 3.

Apparently the same network, but in my experience... 3's signal is bad. 48's is woeful.