Dragons Den 2016

liam7831

Seems as amateurish as usual compared to BBC version

Atlantic Dawn

Once Chuck is out your idea is done.

OU812

Loved the cognikids pitch. Great product

jmcc

Think that Gavin Duffy is the only remaining dragon from the original series. Strange that they didn't try to bargain between 25% and 30%.

Regards...jmcc

liam7831

OU812 wrote: »

Loved the cognikids pitch. Great product

What was with the babies so gimmicky, product range barely existant

ninebeanrows

What an idea!!!

ninebeanrows

Christ

liam7831

Sorry for the negativity but what another totally crap product

Atlantic Dawn

Your realistically only going to have one colour as no kid 10 or over will be at the colouring books. Colouring in all in one colour isn't much of the art side of things.

Atlantic Dawn

The name might work.

Atlantic Dawn

Paddys Day candles would be a better idea.

jmcc

Interesting idea but it is defensible from competition?

Regards...jmcc

enricoh

Duffy only put on a bid to look good for the telly! Wants 3 n a half times what's offered for a product that is already flying... spoofer!

liam7831

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Paddys Day candles would be a better idea.

Maybe hollow ones that would could drink shots outta em

jmcc

enricoh wrote: »

Duffy only put on a bid to look good for the telly! Wants 3 n a half times what's offered for a product that is already flying... spoofer!

Do you know much about business?

Regards...jmcc

liam7831

This Lady looks competent and has a good business

jmcc

Bet Gavin Duffy will make an offer. Remember the suntan product he in which he
invested and advertised himself.

Regards...jmcc

enricoh

jmcc wrote: »

Do you know much about business?

Regards...jmcc

Yeah I know a bit thanks, if u believe in your business n products u are not going to give 3n a half times the equity away that u offered. He knew that when putting in his bid.

jmcc

enricoh wrote: »

Yeah I know a bit thanks, if u believe in your business n products u are not going to give 3n a half times the equity away that u offered. He knew that when putting in his bid.

Investors almost always see things differently to business owners and those trying to raise investment. Negotiation is a key part of the process.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc

Wonder why Gavin Duffy didn't make an offer? He seemed to go for that kind of business in past series.

Regards...jmcc

liam7831

jmcc wrote: »

Investors almost always see things differently to business owners and those trying to raise investment. Negotiation is a key part of the process.

Regards...jmcc

It's prob not necessary to put your name and regards under every message.

Regards Liam

Red Kev

I've seen those baby-gro's before on the continent so it's not a new idea.

What continually annoys me about the Irish Dragons is that they want a product that is already up and running, they're not prepared to help develop it.

Barry OSullivan has a company that works in online business, surely he would be the ideal candidate to go in with the beauty products lady and use his experience to develop her online section. Instead he just says she has no online presence and pulls out.

I just don't get it.

OU812

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Your realistically only going to have one colour as no kid 10 or over will be at the colouring books. Colouring in all in one colour isn't much of the art side of things.

Haven't seen that pitch as was putting the kids to bed, but have to correct you on the no kid 10 or over will be at the colouring books. Lots of kids of all ages enjoy colouring. My own 11 year old spends hours on them, true they're a more grown up difficult & intricate version, but she loves them as do many others of much older ages.

They're generally filled with this type of image (at least my eldest's is):

liam7831

What do you call a peanut in a spacesuit?
An Astronut

jmcc

Red Kev wrote: »

What continually annoys me about the Irish Dragons is that they want a product that is already up and running, they're not prepared to help develop it.

A lot of the other dragons used to try get up to 50% of the business.

Barry OSullivan has a company that works in online business, surely he would be the ideal candidate to go in with the beauty products lady and use his experience to develop her online section. Instead he just says she has no online presence and pulls out.

There's a lot more to marketing a product online than just providing hardware and hosting. It still has to be delivered so there's a distribution chain that has to be set up then there's operating in different markets and either going for distributors or having the business doing it itself.

Regards...jmcc

Atlantic Dawn

Those Surf Seeds did well, think it was Bobby Kerr who invested in them.

jmcc

Bidding war?

Regards...jmcc

Breaston Plants

Eleanor McEvoy has the personality of a brick.

jmcc

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Those Surf Seeds did well, think it was Bobby Kerr who invested in them.

Thought it was Sean Gallagher? There may have been more than one nut product though.

Regards...jmcc

ednwireland

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Those Surf Seeds did well, think it was Bobby Kerr who invested in them.

Where are they now haven't seen em round in a while.

liam7831

ednwireland wrote: »

Where are they now haven't seen em round in a while.

Went out with the tide
Regards, Liam

Red Kev

jmcc wrote: »

A lot of the other dragons used to try get up to 50% of the business.

There's a lot more to marketing a product online than just providing hardware and hosting. It still has to be delivered so there's a distribution chain that has to be set up then there's operating in different markets and either going for distributors or having the business doing it itself.

Regards...jmcc

The whole point is that he has contacts in that area and he can use them. That's how business works.

Alison just invested in something that's in her field and that she can develop. That's what I'm on about.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Their more like medium sized lizards than fire breathing dragons imo.
Regards,
DrTurkTurkelton.

jmcc

Red Kev wrote: »

The whole point is that he has contacts in that area and he can use them. That's how business works.

If you are delivering electronic products or providing an online service perhaps. But this is a bricks and mortar product with supply lines and all that entails. The thing about selling online is that the product has to be delivered to the customer and getting that right is often far more complex than setting up a website and shopping cart and then advertising it on Google Adwords and Facebook.

Regards...jmcc

Breaston Plants

Not a patch on the English version. Poor.
Regards Breaston Plants.

Mr E

The English version has been poor for a few years now, so that doesn't say much about the Irish version.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Not a patch on the English version. Poor.
Regards Breaston Plants.

Couldn't agree more.
Best regards,
DrTurkTurkelton.

liam7831

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Couldn't agree more.
Best regards,
DrTurkTurkelton.[/quote
+1
Kind Regards Liam

Mr E

Why is everyone signing their posts?

Kindest Regards and Salutations,
Mr E.

jmcc

Mr E wrote: »

Why is everyone signing their posts?

Emulation? Flattery? Cargo-cultness? Not sure.

Regards...jmcc

OU812

Ok, just watched the colouring one, you're right, not much colouring in with those.

Thargor

Surf Seeds are still going but I think the arse has fallen out of that seeds fad now and they're more reduced to the odd market stall operation these days rather than a €6 a go box of edible seeds on every petrol station counter in the country like they were for a while.

The only other product from the Irish Dragons Den I come across regularly in the wild is the Takker, they're still going, in most DIY shops, usually a stand at most trade shows:

Regards...Thangor

paleoperson

These guys are the biggest chancers in the history of Dragon's Den. As if nothing like this had ever been tried before... ridiculous waste of money.

I guarantee you, almost 99.99% chance they're going to fail and the money will be gone. I'll also strongly guess they prepared in a very detailed way to be as manipulative as possible, their manner doesn't seem natural.

jmcc

paleoperson wrote: »

These guys are the biggest chancers in the history of Dragon's Den. As if nothing like this had ever been tried before... ridiculous waste of money.

I guarantee you, almost 99.99% chance they're going to fail and the money will be gone.

All new ventures involve a bit of risk. The trick is reducing the amount of risk but more new ventures crash and burn than succeed. Still though, it is a good product/idea.

Regards...jmcc

paleoperson

jmcc wrote: »

All new ventures involve a bit of risk. The trick is reducing the amount of risk but more new ventures crash and burn than succeed. Still though, it is a good product/idea.

Regards...jmcc

How is it a good idea/product? You think noone else has ever thought of this? People have wasted years of their lives working on such applications, as if some guys from Ireland are going to be able to take over it. It's a total lottery, it's like trying to start another social media website. Talking about guys in Korea... come on, amazing Gavin bought into it.

jmcc

paleoperson wrote: »

How is it a good idea/product? You think noone else has ever thought of this? People have wasted years of their lives working on such applications, as if some guys from Ireland are going to be able to take over it. It's a total lottery, it's like trying to start another social media group.

Bebo, Myspace, Friendster, Facebook.

Regards...jmcc

liam7831

Does ur man quinn invest in anything?
Regards and Thanks
Liam

jmcc

liam7831 wrote: »

Does ur man quinn invest in anything?

He does, but I think he favours businesses in his area of expertise.

Regards...jmcc

Red Kev

I've had those sausages. They're not bad at all.

Crazy that he can't get the €75K for 30% off some state body.

liam7831

jmcc wrote: »

He does, but I think he favours businesses in his area of expertise.

Regards...jmcc

Should invest in this so
Regards Liam

jmcc

liam7831 wrote: »

Should invest in this so
Regards Liam

He was the one asking about prices. Good indicator.

Regards...jmcc