Aussies warned about travelling to Ireland

xabi

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/australia-issues-travel-warning-on-ireland-392897.html

Are they being over cautious? Australia is no 'safer' than Ireland in my opinion, worse maybe.

smash

The message is to be cautious in NI, not ROI. Even I'm cautious going up North, the sight of a southern reg car is enough to piss off a lot of people.

biko

“Tensions between dissident republicans and unionists have increased in the lead-up to the centenary of the Easter Rising (24-29 April — Proclamation of Irish independence). You should avoid all protests and demonstrations, including those associated with Northern Ireland, as they may turn violent,” stated a government travel update released on April 11.

An increase in crime in Ireland was listed as another concern by the country’s Department of Foreign Affairs.

“Car theft and break-ins are increasing, especially in Dublin and tourist locations, and rental cars are particularly targeted,” read the government’s statement.

Hence, stay out of Dublin and you'll be grand
Welcome to Galway Australians!

xabi

smash wrote: »

The message is to be cautious in NI, not ROI. Even I'm cautious going up North, the sight of a southern reg car is enough to piss off a lot of people.

Not the one I'm reading, its for Ireland.

buried

The whole thing sounds like it was probably written by a bitter, self loathing Irish immigrant who fled the construction clone war and is now working in Australia's foreign office

MonkeyTennis

What a load of utter tosh.

Redbishop

smash wrote: »

The message is to be cautious in NI, not ROI. Even I'm cautious going up North, the sight of a southern reg car is enough to piss off a lot of people.

Aye, they're attacked every day up there.
I ve travelled and done business in every part of Northern Ireland with both communities and never had any bother, southern reg and all.

smash

xabi wrote: »

Not the one I'm reading, its for Ireland.

"Tensions between dissident republicans and unionists" Doesn't sound like Dublin, or ROI at all. The only mention of Dublin was car theft and break-ins.

Bob24

Typical journalist cherry-picking quotes to support their argument.

If you look at the actual travel advice website from the Australian government they got those quotes from: http://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/europe/

Ireland is rated "Exercise normal safety precautions" (which is the safest rating) while some other European countries have "Exercise a high degree of caution".

Aussies are not being especially warned about travel to Ireland. The website is just listing a few things to be careful about - like it is for pretty much every single country.

xabi

smash wrote: »

"Tensions between dissident republicans and unionists" Doesn't sound like Dublin, or ROI at all. The only mention of Dublin was car theft and break-ins.

It specifically mentions Dublin

smash

xabi wrote: »

It specifically mentions Dublin

Yes, only once as I've stated. "Car theft and break-ins are increasing, especially in Dublin and tourist locations"

xabi

smash wrote: »

Yes, only once as I've stated. "Car theft and break-ins are increasing, especially in Dublin and tourist locations"

The article is about ROI - http://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/ireland

NI is called out separately

Northern Ireland

Australians travelling to Northern Ireland should read the relevant sections of our travel advice for the United Kingdom.

Boom_Bap

I can see where this is coming from, I've been pickpocketed today 16 times, passed numerous voilent demonstrations, had my broken into today alone 7 times (i've just left the door open at this stage).
Thankfully I haven't passed through any secluded parks today.

smash

xabi wrote: »

The article is about ROI - http://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/ireland

NI is called out separately

That is not the article linked in the OP, or even linked from the article in the OP.

Bob24

smash wrote: »

That is not the article linked in the OP, or even linked from the article in the OP.

Well it is the official Australian governemetn website the OP's article is based on. The sentences quoted in the article are direct copy and paste from that website.

xabi

smash wrote: »

That is not the article linked in the OP, or even linked from the article in the OP.

It's what the article is based on.

maudgonner

biko wrote: »

Hence, stay out of Dublin and you'll be grand
Welcome to Galway Australians!

Are you INSANE?

It's seagull season again and they will soon be launching their latest campaign of terror on the chip-eaters of Salthill. Galway is hostile territory with these thugs around.

Look at them here, killers in the making...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fDhIFmEyc4

Australia, why would anyone want to go there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndg81auppyc

xabi

Looks like they have pissed off the Diplomats now - http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/former-diplomat-hits-out-at-australias-ludicrous-warning-about-crime-and-civil-unrest-in-ireland-729588.html

KERSPLAT!

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I can see where this is coming from, I've been pickpocketed today 16 times, passed numerous voilent demonstrations, had my broken into today alone 7 times (i've just left the door open at this stage).
Thankfully I haven't passed through any secluded parks today.

At least it's sunny out

I said

That's the kiwis for ya they don't know their geography lol

snubbleste

There's been a murder

Seamai

This is a load of rubbish. I'd say Irish people visiting Australia are in far more danger judging by how often we here about Irish people involved in incidents there.

Official Australia seem to be very quick to criticise us Irish but as a cousin of mine who has lived there for over 40 years is quick to complain, the ruling class there is still very much English.

Esel

smash wrote: »

The message is to be cautious in NI, not ROI. Even I'm cautious going up North, the sight of a southern reg car is enough to piss off a lot of people.

Maybe if the car is flying a tricolour. Otherwise, :rolleyes:

etoughguy

They'll be grand once they just come to Cork like
Rest of Ireland is polluted and crime ridden and you could be murdered at any give moment anywhere in Ireland, expect Cork of course

fleet_admiral

Streuth Ailsa

Sunflower 27

Seamai wrote: »

This is a load of rubbish. I'd say Irish people visiting Australia are in far more danger judging by how often we here about Irish people involved in incidents there.

Official Australia seem to be very quick to criticise us Irish but as a cousin of mine who has lived there for over 40 years is quick to complain, the ruling class there is still very much English.

Probably because a lot of young Irish specifically go there to party and drink themselves into oblivion.

Barry Badrinath

xabi wrote: »

The article is about ROI - http://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/ireland

NI is called out separately

Look at the colour code in your link....its green....as in low risk.

Look at the colour code for Syria....it's red....as in high risk.

Green is the standard international low level threat warning. The advice is to exercise normal safety precautions, like they would at home.

Governments have a duty of care to their citizens at home and abroad. Most Official Governmemt websites or Embassy websites have a travel advisory section for various countries.

This is not news, that journalist is a lazy cnut and posting a link without understanding it is worse.

Baron Kurtz

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I can see where this is coming from, I've been pickpocketed today 16 times, passed numerous voilent demonstrations, had my ar@e broken into today alone 7 times (i've just left the door open at this stage).
Thankfully I haven't passed through any secluded parks today.

:pac:

Jayop

Sensational bollocks in the OP and sensational bollocks from the poster who said driving a southern reg car in NI could cause you problems.

Barry Badrinath

Jayop wrote: »

....and sensational bollocks from the poster who said driving a southern reg car in NI could cause you problems.

*sometimes* it can though.

Jayop

Wolf Hanssen wrote: »

*sometimes* it can though.

Not really. No more than driving to certain parts of Dublin with a non local car could. Despite being from Tyrone I've only ever owned southern reg cars and I've driven to every part of NI multiple times with no issues. I've driven around Portadown, Portrush, Coleraine, the Shankill Rd and other parts of Loyalist Belfast and never had as much as a sideways glance.

Any feeling on unease you get would come from within.

Ruu

Awaiting response from Alf Stewart.

Jayop

Ruu wrote: »

Awaiting response from Alf Stewart.

Flamin' Nora

lawlolawl

It says a lot about our country when the citizens of a prison colony are being warned not to come here.

I mean, the idea of the Australians of all people warning people about travelling to Ireland has to be a joke. Two weeks ago, yet another Irish citizen was murdered in Australia, just a few weeks after RTÉ showed this poignant documentary about three Irish citizens Murdered in Melbourne.

To get in Australian-style generalisation mode, in Australia they don't just murder people, they're positively barbaric when they do so, as anybody familiar with the head-stomping savagery this Irish citizen endured. A nation of crazed martial arts Jackie Chan wannabes who drift from place to place with massive criminal records and psychopathic tendencies. Alas, what can we expect from a nation that still hasn't the balls to choose to be anything but a glorified colony of the British Empire in 2016?

It's about time the government of Ireland put a notice on its website warning Irish citizens about the risks of travelling to Australia.

Jayop

Deleted User wrote: »

I mean, the idea of the Australians of all people warning people about travelling to Ireland has to be a joke. Two weeks ago, yet another Irish citizen was murdered in Australia, just a few weeks after RTÉ showed this poignant documentary about three Irish citizens Murdered in Melbourne.

To get in Australian-style generalisation mode, in Australia they don't just murder people, they're positively barbaric when they do so, as anybody familiar with the head-stomping savagery this Irish citizen endured. A nation of crazed martial arts Jackie Chan wannabes who drift from place to place with massive criminal records and psychopathic tendencies. Alas, what can we expect from a nation that still hasn't the balls to choose to be anything but a glorified colony of the British Empire in 2016?

It's about time the government of Ireland put a notice on its website warning Irish citizens about the risks of travelling to Australia.

They have Ireland listed in the safest possible category for their people to travel to.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I met some of the nicest and some of the most ignorant people in my life in Australia.

Fratton Fred

Jayop wrote: »

They have Ireland listed in the safest possible category for their people to travel to.

Sshhh, don't let the truth get in the way of a bit of xenophobic ranting.

The Raptor

You'll find more cops in Australia than you would here in Ireland.

Barry Badrinath

Jayop wrote: »

Not really. No more than driving to certain parts of Dublin with a non local car could. Despite being from Tyrone I've only ever owned southern reg cars and I've driven to every part of NI multiple times with no issues. I've driven around Portadown, Portrush, Coleraine, the Shankill Rd and other parts of Loyalist Belfast and never had as much as a sideways glance.

Any feeling on unease you get would come from within.

Thats quite true.

I have been up the north a fair few times. Only twice have I had minor hassle. Once was when the windows of my friends southern reg car were put in with "Free State prick" scraped on the side of the car.

Another time, I was also politely advised to turn around and leave the area while in my Southern reg car.

Both incidents were directly related to having a southern reg car. Weird.

Jaysis, I must have done that from a feeling within.

Sunflower 27

lawlolawl wrote: »

It says a lot about our country when the citizens of a prison colony are being warned not to come here.

How many were those originally from the prison colonies of Irish descent?

Edit: Apparently 24%.

Jayop

Wolf Hanssen wrote: »

Thats quite true.

I have been up the north a fair few times. Only twice have I had minor hassle. Once was when the windows of my friends southern reg car were put in with "Free State prick" scraped on the side of the car.

Another time, I was also politely advised to turn around and leave the area while in my Southern reg car.

Both incidents were directly related to having a southern reg car. Weird.

Jaysis, I must have done that from a feeling within.

What areas did that happen in and what year?

xabi

Wolf Hanssen wrote: »

Look at the colour code in your link....its green....as in low risk.

Look at the colour code for Syria....it's red....as in high risk.

Green is the standard international low level threat warning. The advice is to exercise normal safety precautions, like they would at home.

Governments have a duty of care to their citizens at home and abroad. Most Official Governmemt websites or Embassy websites have a travel advisory section for various countries.

This is not news, that journalist is a lazy cnut and posting a link without understanding it is worse.

Is that a sly dig at me on the last line? I completely understand the links I posted, that's why I did so in AH, most people seem to understand that it's bull, and can joke about it, then you have the likes of you. You should lighten up a bit.

xabi

Wolf Hanssen wrote: »

Thats quite true.

I have been up the north a fair few times. Only twice have I had minor hassle. Once was when the windows of my friends southern reg car were put in with "Free State prick" scraped on the side of the car.

Another time, I was also politely advised to turn around and leave the area while in my Southern reg car.

Both incidents were directly related to having a southern reg car. Weird.

Jaysis, I must have done that from a feeling within.

Bull****

Sunflower 27

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I mean, the idea of the Australians of all people warning people about travelling to Ireland has to be a joke. Two weeks ago, yet another Irish citizen was murdered in Australia, just a few weeks after RTÉ showed this poignant documentary about three Irish citizens Murdered in Melbourne.

To get in Australian-style generalisation mode, in Australia they don't just murder people, they're positively barbaric when they do so, as anybody familiar with the head-stomping savagery this Irish citizen endured. A nation of crazed martial arts Jackie Chan wannabes who drift from place to place with massive criminal records and psychopathic tendencies. Alas, what can we expect from a nation that still hasn't the balls to choose to be anything but a glorified colony of the British Empire in 2016?

It's about time the government of Ireland put a notice on its website warning Irish citizens about the risks of travelling to Australia.

Oh give over. Barbaric crimes dont happen here? Really? What about bodies in suitcases? Every country in the world has a history of vicious crimes, generally carried out by a handful of barbaric individuals. How many Irish people emigrated to Australia? How many of them have been brutally murdered?

I have heard terrible stories of tourists being murdered here. This isn't paradise. You have to expect more crime when there is a bigger population.

Your post is really OTT and out of touch with reality.

Barry Badrinath

xabi wrote: »

Is that a sly dig at me on the last line? I completely understand the links I posted, that's why I did so in AH, most people seem to understand that it's bull, and can joke about it, then you have the likes of you. You should lighten up a bit.

Wasn't a sly dig at you, mainly atvthe teporter but it was just an opinion. lighten up chief, wouldnt want you to join "the likes of me"....whatever that means.

Wait, wait, was that a sly dig at me? Consider my knickers in a twist so! Just ruined my day that did

Barry Badrinath

xabi wrote: »

Bull****

Iv zero interest in making up stories for the internet. Things happen in life. They are two very small things that did happen. The fact they differ from your opinion does not negate their legitimacy.

Iv never had any other hassle up there.

Barry Badrinath

Jayop wrote: »

What areas did that happen in and what year?

First was Sandy Row in 2002, most likely just lads pissed walking home. The other was in 2008, doesnt matter where.

Jayop

Wolf Hanssen wrote: »

First was Sandy Row in 2002, most likely just lads pissed walking home. The other was in 2008, doesnt matter where.

So the one that had your car smashed up was 14 years ago just after the end of the troubles. Why were you parked in Sandy Row? I can see no logical explanation for why someone visiting Belfast would think that was a good idea. The place is a **** hole and it's not like it's not clearly marked.

Things are not like that now and haven't been for as long as I have been driving up North.

Jayop

And just to add, Unionists generally don't use the term "Free State" when attempting to be derogatory.

I'll call BS on those stories my friend.