Political correctness and Feminism is gone too extreme

johndaman66

I'm a reasonably intellegent guy, sociable, confident in myself without being cocky, am well able to hold a conversation with most people and have being told more than once before by various people that I know my place well. I do make mistakes and sometimes do say the wrong thing, as much as the next person would.


However, more and more often I'm finding its getting to the point where you can't say anything hardly to some (many) people. I'm finding that instead of chatting to you and taking what you are saying at face value and letting the conversation flow its almost like they are looking to pick holes in what you are saying - that is their number one objective. As mentioned I may say something out of line the odd time (and although I do have the courage of my convictions and hold my side of the argument in a debate in which I have a firm belief), I will apologise if I am brought up on something that was just incorrect to say. Moreover, I think the problem lies in people being far too eager to take what I am saying out of context and ignore any light hearted humor intened in comments I sometimes make (can give examples for anyone looking).


I wont go too much into the Feminism side of things as I see Irishcrx has started a thread on the same, which is provoking much conversation and debate. It is I do very much consider women and people of other cultures and beliefs and backgrounds my equals but this OTT Feminism is getting too much I feel. So much so that again I'd feel the need to be watching constantly what I'm saying for fear of comments being taking out of context, intended humor being ignored etc. Also am begining to get the impression that the majority are actually being side-lined as a result of this almost extreme radical Feminism that now exists in society. Irishcrx actually puts the point across very well in his opening post on the "Equal right - Losing it's balance in favour of women?" thread...A thread I am going to read more of as I would like to see points of view from both sides of the spectrum as a civil debate/ discussion.


Anyway as mentioned I am a reasonably confident, sociable and well spoken guy but it is getting to the point where the whole PC correctness thing and radical Feminism thing is begining to knock my confidence for fear of saying the most minute small thing or it being taken way out of context, certainly in certain settings anyway. I have gotten to the point where I am saying to myself at times should I just consult my solicitor before I open my mouth at all.

Sonics2k

johndaman66 wrote: »

I'm a reasonably intellegent guy, sociable, confident in myself without being cocky, am well able to hold a conversation with most people and have being told more than once before by various people that I know my place well. I do make mistakes and sometimes do say the wrong thing, as much as the next person would.


However, more and more often I'm finding its getting to the point where you can't say anything hardly to some (many) people. I'm finding that instead of chatting to you and taking what you are saying at face value and letting the conversation flow its almost like they are looking to pick holes in what you are saying - that is their number one objective. As mentioned I may say something out of line the odd time (and although I do have the courage of my convictions and hold my side of the argument in a debate in which I have a firm belief), I will apologise if I am brought up on something that was just incorrect to say. Moreover, I think the problem lies in people being far too eager to take what I am saying out of context and ignore any light hearted humor intened in comments I sometimes make (can give examples for anyone looking).


I wont go too much into the Feminism side of things as I see Irishcrx has started a thread on the same, which is provoking much conversation and debate. It is I do very much consider women and people of other cultures and beliefs and backgrounds my equals but this OTT Feminism is getting too much I feel. So much so that again I'd feel the need to be watching constantly what I'm saying for fear of comments being taking out of context, intended humor being ignored etc. Also am begining to get the impression that the majority are actually being side-lined as a result of this almost extreme radical Feminism that now exists in society. Irishcrx actually puts the point across very well in his opening post on the "Equal right - Losing it's balance in favour of women?" thread...A thread I am going to read more of as I would like to see points of view from both sides of the spectrum as a civil debate/ discussion.


Anyway as mentioned I am a reasonably confident, sociable and well spoken guy but it is getting to the point where the whole PC correctness thing and radical Feminism thing is begining to knock my confidence for fear of saying the most minute small thing or it being taken way out of context, certainly in certain settings anyway. I have gotten to the point where I am saying to myself at times should I just consult my solicitor before I open my mouth at all.

And yet you made your own thread, which could have very well gone in that thread.

magma69

Political correctness is definitely gone too far. I'm all for being respectful and treating people with dignity but it's gone to the point now where it's bordering on fascism. To pick a topical example, the likes of Guardian and a portion of the left say it's Islamophobic to say Islam is in need of reform. Throwing around smears like that purely to shut down a dialogue is undermines free speech. Saying Islam needs reform is hardly hate speech.

IMO, PC began as a well meaning idea but has been hijacked by the terminally offended to impose a kind of fascism.

Samaris

Oh for heaven's sake. At base, the general rule is "Don't be a dick". If someone's constantly having a go at you about your phrasing either A) you're being a dick or they're being a dick. It shouldn't be that difficult to work out which it is and adjust or ignore as is appropriate.

Also, there's a thread for this already...

maudgonner

Samaris wrote: »

Oh for heaven's sake. At base, the general rule is "Don't be a dick". If someone's constantly having a go at you about your phrasing either A) you're being a dick or they're being a dick. It shouldn't be that difficult to work out which it is and adjust or ignore as is appropriate.

This post really should be stickied. To AH, to Boards and to people's foreheads.

MRnotlob606

magma69 wrote: »

Political correctness is definitely gone too far. I'm all for being respectful and treating people with dignity but it's gone to the point now where it's bordering on fascism. To pick a topical example, the likes of Guardian and a portion of the left say it's Islamophobic to say Islam is in need of reform. Throwing around smears like that purely to shut down a dialogue is undermines free speech. Saying Islam needs reform is hardly hate speech.

IMO, PC began as a well meaning idea but has been hijacked by the terminally offended to impose a kind of fascism.

Right wingers have their own form of political correctness, for example torture being "enhanced interrogation" and genuine asylum seekers are often referred to as "economic migrants/illegal aliens (in the US). It's being used by both left and right for quite a while now and is generally a threat to democracy and freedom of expression.

BalcombeSt4

You don't sound very confident, you sound like a paranoid wreck.

The Backwards Man

Assholes are like opinions. Most of them are full of crap.

If someone pulls you up over something you say, defend or discard as appropriate and move on and get on with your life.

coolbeans

Despite your wall of text OP you've not actually said anything except that you think PC has gone too far. Can you give some examples of where you are personally running into bother ?

darkpagandeath

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Right wingers have their own form of political correctness, for example torture being "enhanced interrogation" and genuine asylum seekers are often referred to as "economic migrants/illegal aliens (in the US). It's being used by both left and right for quite a while now and is generally a threat to democracy and freedom of expression.

Problem is I'm not Wright wing, And the facts on the ground do not support these people not being economic migrants. Many are from areas where you can get a passport and a work visa if you are suitable. Speaking of our problem in the EU.

darkpagandeath

coolbeans wrote: »

Despite your wall of text OP you've not actually said anything except that you think PC has gone too far. Can you give some examples of where you are personally running into bother ?

Rape "Culture."

MacauDragon

Just ignore the cries of patriarchy and continue being productive and storing value.

somefeen

Just don't hang around with Social Justice Warrior types.

whatdoicare

Normal people just talk about the weather, what to watch on Netflix, buying stuff in Penneys and what Mavis down the road did with Justin from down the lane....what kind of people do you hang out with OP where ye're all having 24/7 debates and shouting each other down??

darkpagandeath

whatdoicare wrote: »

Normal people just talk about the weather, what to watch on Netflix, buying stuff in Penneys and what Mavis down the road did with Justin from down the lane....what kind of people do you hang out with OP where ye're all having 24/7 debates and shouting each other down??

I would wager people that visit their equality and diversity officer in college 24/7 for being triggered. :pac:

ToddyDoody

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

You don't sound very confident, you sound like a paranoid wreck.

+1 (well, in the wrong company at least)

wokingvoter

whatdoicare wrote: »

Normal people just talk about the weather, what to watch on Netflix, buying stuff in Penneys and what Mavis down the road did with Justin from down the lane....what kind of people do you hang out with OP where ye're all having 24/7 debates and shouting each other down??

I work occasionally with a guy and unless we keep the conversation to "how's your mother? Not too bad thank God how's yours?" Then he seems to be giving me a funny look, shaking his head in despair and saying " I'll tell you something, that doesn't sit well with me. At all" I'm fed up with it

maudgonner

You know what would be great? If people who are sick of the gender divide taking over every conversation would stop making threads about the gender divide.

20Cent

People moaning about sjw's and PC gone mad are as annoying as the sjw/pc heads.

RDM_83 again

20Cent wrote: »

People moaning about sjw's and PC gone mad are as annoying as the sjw/pc heads.

Thats something I've noticed a bit on the internet in the last couple of months, hating on the SJW/PC thing is now too mainstream so its hating on the SJW/PC haters, personally I think thats a great thing because it means that the wider public backlash against it has gained steam and isn't just restricted to the internet

johndaman66

Samaris wrote: »

Oh for heaven's sake. At base, the general rule is "Don't be a dick". If someone's constantly having a go at you about your phrasing either A) you're being a dick or they're being a dick. It shouldn't be that difficult to work out which it is and adjust or ignore as is appropriate.

Fair points - there will always be dicks, I understand that, moreso the point I was trying to make on the whole was that society in general is moving towards this extreme form of political correctness as never seen before and it seems to be getting worse and worse.... A lot of dicks out there if you want to put it that way. Don't know, maybe its just the past few weeks I had manifesting itself now. Or maybe its just unfortunate the people who I have being chatting to over the past month or so.

Samaris wrote: »

Also, there's a thread for this already...

I realise that and had mentioned the same in my OP. I wanted to speak of Policital Correctness and Feminism as a whole. Anyway am sure its not the biggest misdemeanor ever and Moderators if deemed appropriate please merge the threads.

Augme

johndaman66 wrote: »

I'm a reasonably intellegent guy, sociable, confident in myself without being cocky, am well able to hold a conversation with most people and have being told more than once before by various people that I know my place well. I do make mistakes and sometimes do say the wrong thing, as much as the next person would.


However, more and more often I'm finding its getting to the point where you can't say anything hardly to some (many) people. I'm finding that instead of chatting to you and taking what you are saying at face value and letting the conversation flow its almost like they are looking to pick holes in what you are saying - that is their number one objective. As mentioned I may say something out of line the odd time (and although I do have the courage of my convictions and hold my side of the argument in a debate in which I have a firm belief), I will apologise if I am brought up on something that was just incorrect to say. Moreover, I think the problem lies in people being far too eager to take what I am saying out of context and ignore any light hearted humor intened in comments I sometimes make (can give examples for anyone looking).


I wont go too much into the Feminism side of things as I see Irishcrx has started a thread on the same, which is provoking much conversation and debate. It is I do very much consider women and people of other cultures and beliefs and backgrounds my equals but this OTT Feminism is getting too much I feel. So much so that again I'd feel the need to be watching constantly what I'm saying for fear of comments being taking out of context, intended humor being ignored etc. Also am begining to get the impression that the majority are actually being side-lined as a result of this almost extreme radical Feminism that now exists in society. Irishcrx actually puts the point across very well in his opening post on the "Equal right - Losing it's balance in favour of women?" thread...A thread I am going to read more of as I would like to see points of view from both sides of the spectrum as a civil debate/ discussion.


Anyway as mentioned I am a reasonably confident, sociable and well spoken guy but it is getting to the point where the whole PC correctness thing and radical Feminism thing is begining to knock my confidence for fear of saying the most minute small thing or it being taken way out of context, certainly in certain settings anyway. I have gotten to the point where I am saying to myself at times should I just consult my solicitor before I open my mouth at all.

The two bolded bits are very much at odds with each other.

mansize

Another thread, was the other one too much fun???

The_Valeyard

mansize wrote: »

Another thread, was the other one too much fun???

Gender balance

thattequilagirl

johndaman66 wrote: »

I wont go too much into the Feminism side of things as I see Irishcrx has started a thread on the same, which is provoking much conversation and debate. It is I do very much consider women and people of other cultures and beliefs and backgrounds my equals but this OTT Feminism is getting too much I feel. So much so that again I'd feel the need to be watching constantly what I'm saying for fear of comments being taking out of context, intended humor being ignored etc. Also am begining to get the impression that the majority are actually being side-lined as a result of this almost extreme radical Feminism that now exists in society. Irishcrx actually puts the point across very well in his opening post on the "Equal right - Losing it's balance in favour of women?" thread...A thread I am going to read more of as I would like to see points of view from both sides of the spectrum as a civil debate/ discussion.


Anyway as mentioned I am a reasonably confident, sociable and well spoken guy but it is getting to the point where the whole PC correctness thing and radical Feminism thing is begining to knock my confidence for fear of saying the most minute small thing or it being taken way out of context, certainly in certain settings anyway. I have gotten to the point where I am saying to myself at times should I just consult my solicitor before I open my mouth at all.

Can you give me a real life example of how radical feminism has effected... anything... in Ireland?

johndaman66

coolbeans wrote: »

Despite your wall of text OP you've not actually said anything except that you think PC has gone too far. Can you give some examples of where you are personally running into bother ?

Ok coolbeans to give an example or 2....


I had a bag of ashes form the fireplace near my backdoor. I don't have a house bin, take my rubbish to the dump every second week. Anyway had someone at the house and they knew my circumstances and seen the ashes and asked what are you going to do with them. I said in a joking manner I'll fling them over the back wall when the neighbours are go to bed and they started ranting and raving about illegal dumping. I actually tried to stop them and tell them it was a joke but to no avail. I think that one was either extreme stupidity on their part or else they were just trying to rise me.


Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

johndaman66

thattequilagirl wrote: »

Can you give me a real life example of how radical feminism has effected... anything... in Ireland?

^^Provided above thattequilagirl. Just an everyday example from my point of view.

johndaman66

Augme wrote: »

The two bolded bits are very much at odds with each other.

Maybe but thats where its at from my point of view. Maybe I'm just trying to make sense of other peoples stupidity too and that is the crux of the problem..

Ulysses Gaze

johndaman66 wrote: »

I'm a reasonably intellegent guy, sociable, confident in myself without being cocky, am well able to hold a conversation with most people and have being told more than once before by various people that I know my place well. I do make mistakes and sometimes do say the wrong thing, as much as the next person would.


However, more and more often I'm finding its getting to the point where you can't say anything hardly to some (many) people. I'm finding that instead of chatting to you and taking what you are saying at face value and letting the conversation flow its almost like they are looking to pick holes in what you are saying - that is their number one objective. As mentioned I may say something out of line the odd time (and although I do have the courage of my convictions and hold my side of the argument in a debate in which I have a firm belief), I will apologise if I am brought up on something that was just incorrect to say. Moreover, I think the problem lies in people being far too eager to take what I am saying out of context and ignore any light hearted humor intened in comments I sometimes make (can give examples for anyone looking).


I wont go too much into the Feminism side of things as I see Irishcrx has started a thread on the same, which is provoking much conversation and debate. It is I do very much consider women and people of other cultures and beliefs and backgrounds my equals but this OTT Feminism is getting too much I feel. So much so that again I'd feel the need to be watching constantly what I'm saying for fear of comments being taking out of context, intended humor being ignored etc. Also am begining to get the impression that the majority are actually being side-lined as a result of this almost extreme radical Feminism that now exists in society. Irishcrx actually puts the point across very well in his opening post on the "Equal right - Losing it's balance in favour of women?" thread...A thread I am going to read more of as I would like to see points of view from both sides of the spectrum as a civil debate/ discussion.


Anyway as mentioned I am a reasonably confident, sociable and well spoken guy but it is getting to the point where the whole PC correctness thing and radical Feminism thing is begining to knock my confidence for fear of saying the most minute small thing or it being taken way out of context, certainly in certain settings anyway. I have gotten to the point where I am saying to myself at times should I just consult my solicitor before I open my mouth at all.

Maybe you need to create your own safe space.....

bodice ripper

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ok coolbeans to give an example or 2....



Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

It's terrible the way people object to being patronised these days.

strandroad

johndaman66 wrote: »

I had a bag of ashes form the fireplace near my backdoor. I don't have a house bin, take my rubbish to the dump every second week. Anyway had someone at the house and they knew my circumstances and seen the ashes and asked what are you going to do with them. I said in a joking manner I'll fling them over the back wall when the neighbours are go to bed and they started ranting and raving about illegal dumping. I actually tried to stop them and tell them it was a joke but to no avail. I think that one was either extreme stupidity on their part or else they were just trying to rise me.

What does it have to do with political correctness now? You only have littering sc*m to thank for the fact that people are sick of dumping.

johndaman66 wrote: »

Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

Ok I can see it now. Would you be aware that hobbies are not really gender specific in 2016 or is it new to you?

ceadaoin.

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ok coolbeans to give an example or 2....



Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

Except boy would be the male equivalent to girl and I'm pretty sure you'd never dream of calling an adult man a boy. If this was a woman in her 30s or older then it does come across as patronizing tbh.

Mourinho

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ok coolbeans to give an example or 2....


I had a bag of ashes form the fireplace near my backdoor. I don't have a house bin, take my rubbish to the dump every second week. Anyway had someone at the house and they knew my circumstances and seen the ashes and asked what are you going to do with them. I said in a joking manner I'll fling them over the back wall when the neighbours are go to bed and they started ranting and raving about illegal dumping. I actually tried to stop them and tell them it was a joke but to no avail. I think that one was either extreme stupidity on their part or else they were just trying to rise me.


Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

To be honest they just sound like two gob****es don't hang around with 'em again.

darkpagandeath

bodice ripper wrote: »

It's terrible the way people object to being patronised these days.

You cant win sometime imagine saying an owl wan ?

the evasion_kid

I feel your plight op...

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suicide_circus

Samaris wrote: »

Oh for heaven's sake. At base, the general rule is "Don't be a dick". If someone's constantly having a go at you about your phrasing either A) you're being a dick or they're being a dick. It shouldn't be that difficult to work out which it is and adjust or ignore as is appropriate.

Also, there's a thread for this already...

"Don't be a dick" = "Don't be a cúnt"

"Don't be a dick" is actually ubiquitous on boards.ie and is a mainstay of the moderator lexicon.

This is because envoking the male genitalia in a negative sense is perfectly OK, de rigueur in fact but doing so with female genitalia would set off certain....triggers.

Willy bad, vajayjay good.

It's reverse sexism and as a feminist, I'll be sticking with the C-bomb, thanks.

a fat guy

Eh, you've got to put up with a lot of crap when you're living in Dublin. If it's not the gay rights crowd, it's the vegans. If it's not the vegans, it'd the fluoride crazies. If it's not them, it's the water protestors or some chugger/junkie/homeless looking for money. Church, feminism, I just don't care anymore.

You can't agree or care about every cause, there literally isn't enough time in the day to give enough of a ****. Just nod your head and do whatever you were going to do anyway. You'll get more work done that way.

darkpagandeath

a fat guy wrote: »

Eh, you've got to put up with a lot of crap when you're living in Dublin. If it's not the gay rights crowd, it's the vegans. If it's not the vegans, it'd the fluoride crazies. If it's not them, it's the water protestors or some chugger/junkie/homeless looking for money. Church, feminism, I just don't care anymore.

You can't agree or care about every cause, there literally isn't enough time in the day to give enough of a ****. Just nod your head and do whatever you were going to do anyway. You'll get more work done that way.

Scause, Sorted just wear them all.

melissak

suicide_circus wrote: »

"Don't be a dick" = "Don't be a cúnt"

"Don't be a dick" is actually ubiquitous on boards.ie and is a mainstay of the moderator lexicon.

This is because envoking the male genitalia in a negative see ense is perfectly OK, de rigueur in fact but doing so with female genitalia would set off certain....triggers.

Willy bad, vajayjay good.

It's reverse sexism and as a feminist, I'll be sticking with the C-bomb, thanks.

Except that dick is a nickname for richard. I imagine someone didn't care for a Richard once and started calling a penis a dick so it is not the same

mansize

Dicks are great

johndaman66

mhge wrote: »

What does it have to do with political correctness now? You only have littering sc*m to thank for the fact that people are sick of dumping.



Ok I can see it now. Would you be aware that hobbies are not really gender specific in 2016 or is it new to you?

Political correctness and Feminism much? Again you need to take my comments in context....On the lady I was speaking to on the hobbies I could have easily inserted "guy" if it was a fella I was chatting to re the exact same hobbies, hence I am well aware hobbies are not really gender specific in 2016..

mansize

Boy would be the equivalent of girl tbf

20Cent

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ok coolbeans to give an example or 2....


I had a bag of ashes form the fireplace near my backdoor. I don't have a house bin, take my rubbish to the dump every second week. Anyway had someone at the house and they knew my circumstances and seen the ashes and asked what are you going to do with them. I said in a joking manner I'll fling them over the back wall when the neighbours are go to bed and they started ranting and raving about illegal dumping. I actually tried to stop them and tell them it was a joke but to no avail. I think that one was either extreme stupidity on their part or else they were just trying to rise me.


Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

Got anymore examples of how these sjw's and feminists are oppressing you?
Not feeling these two.
Kid.

johndaman66

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Except boy would be the male equivalent to girl and I'm pretty sure you'd never dream of calling an adult man a boy. If this was a woman in her 30s or older then it does come across as patronizing tbh.

To be honest yes I might find it a small bit funny and different if some called me a boy but I wouldn't put too much pass on it either, depends on the context of the conversation too and the way its said obviously. However, to kick up a fuss of the magnitude that girl did was just insane and uncalled for in my opinion.

strandroad

johndaman66 wrote: »

Political correctness and Feminism much? Again you need to take my comments in context....On the lady I was speaking to on the hobbies I could have easily inserted "guy" if it was a fella I was chatting to re the exact same hobbies, hence I am well aware hobbies are not really gender specific in 2016..

So why did you say "for a girl" if it means nothing and she's not really a girl? Would you say "for a boy" to a fella? It doesn't make much sense so perhaps people just find you awkwardly patronising...
But obviously I'm ONE OF THEM now

Esel

"That sounds like a good hobby!"

"Yeah, I really enjoy it."
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"That sounds like a good hobby for a girl!"

"Yeah, I - WTF?"

One eyed Jack

magma69 wrote: »

Political correctness is definitely gone too far. I'm all for being respectful and treating people with dignity but it's gone to the point now where it's bordering on fascism. To pick a topical example, the likes of Guardian and a portion of the left say it's Islamophobic to say Islam is in need of reform. Throwing around smears like that purely to shut down a dialogue is undermines free speech. Saying Islam needs reform is hardly hate speech.

IMO, PC began as a well meaning idea but has been hijacked by the terminally offended to impose a kind of fascism.

Actually it started out as the complete opposite - a derogatory term that right wing politicians used to deride the political left wing politicians, until the left wing did indeed hi-jack it for themselves. In the same way, social justice warrior started off as a slur, but now more and more lefties are beginning to claim the term as a badge of honour, something to be proud of, which means it too will soon become as meaningless as the term "political correctness".

johndaman66 wrote: »

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Was chatting to a lady (in around my on age, maybe she was a year or 2 younger) and was chatting to her about something she liked and I said ah, thats a nice hobby for a girl. The reaction was pretty much bordering on I should be ashamed of myself calling her a girl and I may as well be living in the dark ages. She went on to make reference to the Fr Ted, lovely ladies competition and how my comment was just as inappropriate. Anyway - meant it in the manner of guy/ girl. I know I'm not completely over the hill yet...

Define "reasonably intelligent"?

Nope, neither political correctness nor internet feminism goes all that far at all offline. I've certainly never had to think I had to moderate myself to the degree where I couldn't or was afraid to express an opinion. If you're afraid to express an opinion around your friends, is it actually your friends are the problem, or is it you?

Surround yourself with people that do understand you, and you'll never have to worry about saying the wrong thing

darkpagandeath

mhge wrote: »

So why did you say "for a girl" if it means nothing and she's not really a girl? Would you say "for a boy" to a fella? It doesn't make much sense so perhaps people just find you awkwardly patronising...
But obviously I'm ONE OF THEM now

Girls night out ?

Brindor

Where my fellow Patricians at ?

johndaman66

johndaman66 wrote: »

I'm a reasonably intellegent guy...

It was an open goal, I just couldn't resist...