Grand National Day the 28th of April

Niallers87

Well guys; what are your fancies.tomorrow!!? I normally back two and am currently looking at Bony kate and kilford. Any thoughts!!?

Copper_pipe

Bobbys Kitten in the first at Mallow tomorrow. Won a breeder Cup Turf Sprint in 2014 and runs tomorrow in a handicap for D K Weld. Some change in scenery for it!

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maximo31

Niallers87 wrote: »

Well guys; what are your fancies.tomorrow!!? I normally back two and am currently looking at Bony kate and kilford. Any thoughts!!?

The year is flying!!;)

ShaneU

Bonny Kate by 30 lengths, easy money.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

I really like Mala Beach tomo-can't see it outside top five

Niallers87

maximo31 wrote: »

The year is flying!!;)

Haha!! Really gettin ahead of myself

gazza1

Going to have a small ew on KILLER CROW and WRATH OF TITANS

Harry Angstrom

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Bobbys Kitten in the first at Mallow tomorrow. Won a breeder Cup Turf Sprint in 2014 and runs tomorrow in a handicap for D K Weld. Some change in scenery for it!

You do realise that the ground at Mallow will be a bog, and a million miles removed from the sort of ground that this horse is used to running on?

And it's running in a Listed race, not a handicap.

jj mac

Rashaan in the first at fairyhouse. Has been up against the best juveniles in Ireland and wr know how the triumph went. I fancy this big time on the slightly better ground

Copper_pipe

Sunni May 7/2 6:40 Fairyhouse ★★★★

Finished 4 1/2 lengths in front of today’s favourite Death Duty on debut. Was in receipt of 4lb that day. It came over this course and distance behind Castello Sforza. That horse finished 4th in the Champion Bumper at Cheltenham. Sunni May is a further 3lb better off today with Death Duty. Based on form, over the same track, distance and ground, you would think Sunni May will beat it again. Blow By Blow appears to be the only other danger. He beat Jett last time out. That horse runs earlier in the card. It will be interesting to see how it runs. I think this is a 3 runner race, the 2 outsiders have no chance. If you got 4/1 about this horse I’d be all over it each way. Saying that though I think it will win outright. The Jessica Harrington yard are in top form and they won the bumper at the track yesterday.


Irish Grand National Preview - 5:00 Fairyhouse:

Selections: Venitian De Mai 9/1 ★★★ & Baie Des Iles 25/1 ★★
Outsiders: Wrath of Titans 25/1 ★ & Riverside City 50/1 ★

This is one of the top staying handicap chases in Ireland year in year out. It favours horse under 9 years of age and that carry under 10 stone 9lb. Novices that have proven form over 3 mile is also a plus. Most Firms will pay 5 places in this. We’ve taken all the trends into account and combed through the form. We’ve narrowed it down to 5 horses. The first of those is Bonny Kate. She’s a talented novice who should have no problem with this trip. She’s won her last 3 races and should be there or thereabouts today. Favourites do have a poor record in this race though and she looks to be too short at 13/2.

Baie Des Iles is 5lb better off with Bonny Kate today, he was a staying on 2nd to Bonny Kate on their only meeting over 3 mile 4f.. Baie Des Iles is a horse that we’ve fancied for this race for some time. This horse may only be 5 but he has an abundance of stamina. Ran a cracking race in the Grade 2 Bobbyjo Chase here last month when 4th to the 5 time Grade 1 winner Boston Bob. Katie Walsh rides this horse for her partner Ross O’Sullivan. There have been good vibes out of the stable all week for this horse. Katie Walsh won the race last year and she could follow up again. Venitian De Mai is the one that brings the best form into the race. Won a Down Royal beginners chase and followed up with an emphatic win on handicap debut over stablemate Goonyella in 3 mile Leinster National at Naas three weeks ago. He clearly outstayed Goonyella that day and that one is not devoid of stamina, far from it. Goonyella won the Midlands National last year and was 2nd in the Scottish National.

Venitian de Mai has gone up 10lb for that win but is till on the up and up. Encounters better ground here too which can only help. Has to be seriously considered today. Two outsiders with a live chance are Wrath Of Titans and Riverside City. Wrath of Titans has some decent novice chase form. He always runs as if marathon trips like this would suit. Is unexposed over fences and had graded form over hurdle. The same connections of this horse won the race last year with an outsider too. Riverside City should not be 50/1 for this race. He has some top handicap chase form. He won the Troytown Chase and finished a good 5th in the Paddy Power Chase. Both of those races have proven to be good trials for this race in the past. I’d ignore its last two runs, it was held up out the back in both and was never put into the race. Given the connections and that Nina Carberry is on board, they mean business today. Has a very low racing weight and could surprise quite a few.

Francie Barrett

jj mac wrote: »

Rashaan in the first at fairyhouse. Has been up against the best juveniles in Ireland and wr know how the triumph went. I fancy this big time on the slightly better ground

Ditto.

Francie Barrett

Cause Of Causes 50/1 with William Hill for the national. Don't really fancy it, but had 2 quid on that that crazy price.

Francie Barrett

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Venitian de Mai has gone up 10lb for that win but is till on the up and up. Encounters better ground here too which can only help. Has to be seriously considered today.

Venitien De Mai for me as well at 10/1, this one fits the profile of Irish national winners, has been in superb form and will have no problem with course, distance or ground. Also have a small bet on Folsom Blue at 33/1. Beaten by Bonny Kate last time out, this time out there's an 18lb swing in the weights in favour of Folsom Blue.

shmeee

Theatre Princess in the 3.35 cork, take the 7/2 that's left. Won't last either. Being cleaned. Expected to win.

madmoose

shmeee wrote: »

Theatre Princess in the 3.35 cork, take the 7/2 that's left. Won't last either. Being cleaned. Expected to win.

Had an email from a good contact to back this at 7/1 yesterday as it will be smashed in and has been working well at home, will gonoff 6/4 he said.

Same with blasez peg in the last at 14/1 but it is no bigger than 7/1 now.

shmeee

madmoose wrote: »

Had an email from a good contact to back this at 7/1 yesterday as it will be smashed in and has been working well at home, will gonoff 6/4 he said.

Same with blasez peg in the last at 14/1 but it is no bigger than 7/1 now.

We got the same message so.....

Copper_pipe

shmeee wrote: »

We got the same message so.....

Mick Winters mastering emails is he

Ha

madmoose

shmeee wrote: »

We got the same message so.....

Haha

posturingpat

ShaneU wrote: »

Bonny Kate by 30 lengths, easy money.

:pac::pac::pac:

posturingpat

I like Jarob, won a chase in September quite cosily and only run twice since over hurdles as i presume they felt they had a very fair chase mark and didn't want to ruin it.
Won one of them hurdles off a mark of 130 and he runs off 130 today, his next hurdle run he finished 7th over an inadequate 2 mile but it was a bunch finish and the form of it is working out really nicely with 1st and second that day winning nicely since.
He's a winning point to pointer so likely he'll be a better chaser than hurdler and over a trip(not an exact science) and at 33/1 i think that's a fair price for sure.

king Henry 14

Was there a reason for cause of causes withdrawal

Copper_pipe

king Henry 14 wrote: »

Was there a reason for cause of causes withdrawal

Id assume the ground

posturingpat

Keeping him for the Grand national i'm guessing. Must've heard of a few likely withdrawals. Don't think the ground's too bad at all so doubt it's it.

minibear

Russe Blanc e/w in the national and one other I haven't picked yet.

Silvestre de Sousa set of doubles and trebles (Basigstoke, Kenstone, Top of the Glas and Jordan James)

Grey Gold, and I've followed the tips for Theatre Princess and Blazes Peg.

Grey gold & Russe Blanc double :pac:

Sin é, for now anyway.

Lt Dan

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Bobbys Kitten in the first at Mallow tomorrow. Won a breeder Cup Turf Sprint in 2014 and runs tomorrow in a handicap for D K Weld. Some change in scenery for it!

Weld has very little history in sprints. If Eddie Lynam was a bigger name I would have sent the horse there, but what would I know.

Hope Ramsey's like soft ground (they don't) . Someone mentioned Galway... bet me to it.

Hope Weld does succeed, I like him and Pat Smullen

Lt Dan

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

You do realise that the ground at Mallow will be a bog, and a million miles removed from the sort of ground that this horse is used to running on?

And it's running in a Listed race, not a handicap.

The poor horse won't know what hit him. He was't fond of the "soft" at Keenland

carman2011

king Henry 14 wrote: »

Was there a reason for cause of causes withdrawal

i woulda been amazed if he had of ran....too soon after cheltenham, and running off top weight , when the biggest weight to win the national since 2000 is 10 stone 13.....on top of this he can run at aintree off 12lbs lower and more rest and a lovely racing weight (if he gets in)

he woulda been a super place lay if he did run, as is mala beach who wont stay and has too much weight, place lay all day.

Lt Dan

What does anyone think of the chances of Portrait King in the National?

Francie Barrett

shmeee wrote: »

Theatre Princess in the 3.35 cork, take the 7/2 that's left. Won't last either. Being cleaned. Expected to win.

Doubled with Death Duty in the last at Fairyhouse.

Peintre Celebre

Lt Dan wrote: »

What does anyone think of the chances of Portrait King in the National?

He's the one I keep coming back to but whether or not he'll be good enough I'm not sure but going to chance.


Had a few bets today. Corail is a massive price at Cork at 20/1 in the opener. Have the well backed Shanghai Beauty in the third and Leg Lock Luke at chepstow

king Henry 14

posturingpat wrote: »

Keeping him for the Grand national i'm guessing. Must've heard of a few likely withdrawals. Don't think the ground's too bad at all so doubt it's it.

Yeah I was wondering if that was the case. Will be hard for him to get in at aintree but maybe connections know something we don't. Will be interesting if he does squeeze in though.

Lt Dan

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

He's the one I keep coming back to but whether or not he'll be good enough I'm not sure but going to chance.


Had a few bets today. Corail is a massive price at Cork at 20/1 in the opener. Have the well backed Shanghai Beauty in the third and Leg Lock Luke at chepstow

He is surely good enough to place. Stamina not an issue. Personally, I always prefer that the jockey knows the horse - bar when Geraghty is steering , he seems (or use to seem ) to have no problems

Francie Barrett

Anyone notice that Ruby Walsh is wasting himself down to 10 stone 1 to take the ride on Isleofhopeanddreams in the 3:50?

racso1975

As always went for 4 as it pays 5 places. Tulsa Jack, jarob, another hero and sub lieutenant. All 1 ew
Then luck 15 of sheamus, total recall, rashaan and royal caviar.

Good luck to all

RobbingBandit

€5e/w Sub lieutenant for me. €2e/w on Wrath of Titans too.

Copper_pipe

Bobbys Kitten :O

cson

Bobbys Kitten looked like a Breeders Cup card winner there; 7/2 was huge in hindsight.

Francie Barrett

cson wrote: »

Bobbys Kitten looked like a Breeders Cup winner there; 7/2 was huge in hindsight.

5/1 SP!

You talked yourselves out of that one lads.

Lt Dan

Bobby's Kitten ran well, some head and neck bobbing there. Good run by Bolger's horse.

Jaysus, Tommy Stack's stock is dipping fast

cson

Francie Barrett wrote: »

5/1 SP!

You talked yourselves out of that one lads.

Wow, really?

Class will almost always win out to be fair, ground didn't look as bad as was being alluded to in the thread earlier too.

Lt Dan

Francie Barrett wrote: »

5/1 SP!

You talked yourselves out of that one lads.

He was not the only one. Geerrrrrrrr! I actually was one of the first to point out that he was running yesterday on the other thread. I was sneering at the idea of winning on soft , but noting that the others were not group 1 horses. Grrrr

Villain

Total Recall and Sheamus worth some E/W money in the 15:50 and 16:20 at Fairyhouse today

Lt Dan

Ted Walsh making it clear what he thinks of the trainers course and how Joey O'Brien will have to be lectured by no bodies despite coming from the yard of the best trainer in the world. "Job for the boys" according to the Ted

Francie Barrett

Lt Dan wrote: »

Ted Walsh making it clear what he thinks of the trainers course and how Joey O'Brien will have to be lectured by no bodies despite coming from the yard of the best trainer in the world. "Job for the boys" according to the Ted

Why do they let him on any show? Absolute clown. Maybe he thinks that trainers licences should be handed down like hereditary titles.

Lt Dan

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Why do they let him on any show? Absolute clown. Maybe he thinks that trainers licences should be handed down like hereditary titles.

Ah , he is entertaining . I like Brian Gleeson but I wish he would stop the John McCarrick mannerism and be himself

kfallon

Willie Mullins has gone 40 runners without a winner now, mad isn't it!

krustydoyle

Folsom Blue
My Murphy
Rogue Angel
Living Next Door

All ew in the national for me

Lt Dan

kfallon wrote: »

Willie Mullins has gone 40 runners without a winner now, mad isn't it!

Ah, that is the end of him sure. He is gone. Out of business ............... Standards are slipping shure

BumperD

shmeee wrote: »

Theatre Princess in the 3.35 cork, take the 7/2 that's left. Won't last either. Being cleaned. Expected to win.

That was close :pac:

idnkph

Kilford and kerry lees horse ew for me in the national.