Safe places to leave your dog off - Cork City

JayJoeson

I have a three year old staff who has a lot of pent up energy and desperately needs to be let off to play. We have a back garden but, it's too small for him. I take him out for regular walks but, he needs to have a decent run from time to time.
Is there any safe and secure place to leave him off the leash?
I feel terrible that he can't run off and socialise in normal parks with other dogs as he tends to get extremely aggressive with larger dogs, small dogs aren't a problem though...I've often had small terriers tear on to his neck and he'd just stand there, waiting for them to stop.
But anyway, I'd really appreciate if ye could give me a few places. It'd make me and my dogs life much easier.
His name is Bandit by the way

ilikesleeves

Poor Bandit! Tramore valley park is a very large open space that is fairly abandoned once you keep away from the car park and BMX park. Far as I know it's open on Saturday and Sundays for the time being.

namloc1980

It's illegal to have any dog off a lead in any public place in Cork. In addition there are addt restrictions on breeds like staffs, they must be kept on a short chain lead and muzzled at all times in public. Very poor advice to tell someone to bring the dog to a public park and leave him off.

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ilikesleeves

namloc1980 wrote: »

It's illegal to have any dog off a lead in any public place in Cork. In addition there are addt restrictions on breeds like staffs

You're right, poor advice, hadn't considered either of these two issues!

goochy

You need to travel out of the city where no ones around . If i saw your dog off leash . I would be looking to report u !

JayJoeson

Well, that's fantastic. My dog will never be able to actually run free and enjoy his life for an hour without a leash around his neck.

goochy

Can't you go somewhere that theres no people around or maybe at a time when there's no one around. Why did you go for a dangerous breed ?

opti76

JayJoeson wrote: »

Well, that's fantastic. My dog will never be able to actually run free and enjoy his life for an hour without a leash around his neck.

unfortunately..

did you research the breed before you acquired him .. i have a restricted breed dog but i also have a friend with a large field who lets me use his private property to exercise him .

http://www.dspca.ie/index.jsp?a=80&n=216&p=153

mik_da_man

goochy wrote: »

Can't you go somewhere that theres no people around or maybe at a time when there's no one around. Why did you go for a dangerous breed ?

That's a bit of a generalisation, they can be very friendly dogs. Also known as the nanny breed.

But some are dangerous, so it's unfortunately led to strict controls on them.
I have one and while I don't like it she needs to be kept on a chain leash and muzzle in public places.

gimmick

Maybe some helpful advice rather that the pathetic boards do gooder association puts their irritating boot in would be nice.

Across from the car park in the lee fields is an old abandoned rugby pitch. The only time anyone is in there is if someone is walking their dog there and that is pretty rare. It would be a perfect place to let your dog off the lead.

pwurple

goochy wrote: »

You need to travel out of the city where no ones around . If i saw your dog off leash . I would be looking to report u !

Not this time of year... Lambs and calves about.

goochy

The problem is the public doesn't know if a dog is friendly . Why not go down the docks or something ? Not that exciting but no one around . Or as said go out late when no one would be out for a stroll . Like down by the show grounds .

BailMeOut

Large open space and get a 50' training lead. That's what I'd do.

Junkyard Tom

If it was me I'd take him down the Lee Fields after dark and let him run off the lead.

wheresmybeaver

I sympathize with the op but it's tricky finding somewhere appropriate for certain restricted breeds to be off the leash. I've been seeing signs around town with actual pictures of restricted breeds on them.

We've only an elderly Labrador but some people and children can of course still be skittish around her. There are a couple of handy places that are very quiet for walks and runs like Curragh Wood outside Midleton. Particularly if the weather isn't great there are very few people there and it's a big path so you get to see people coming in the opposite direction for putting the lead back on. If you stick to the main path you won't be anywhere near farmer's animals either.

There have been a couple of similar threads to this in the last few years with some good suggestions about other locations. Worth a search. You will also note that the same arguments and opinions come up every single time without fail.

mik_da_man

mik_da_man wrote: »

That's a bit of a generalisation, they can be very friendly dogs. Also known as the nanny breed.

But some are dangerous, so it's unfortunately led to strict controls on them.
I have one and while I don't like it she needs to be kept on a chain leash and muzzle in public places.

The dangerous breed thing is always a misnomer though isn't it? It's more to do with potential damage in worst case scenario.

Simple physical strength and bite force (and of course media perception of a breed) meaning that there may be no time to react if one does go uncontrollable

kcb

JayJoeson wrote: »

I have a three year old staff who has a lot of pent up energy and desperately needs to be let off to play. We have a back garden but, it's too small for him. I take him out for regular walks but, he needs to have a decent run from time to time.
Is there any safe and secure place to leave him off the leash?
I feel terrible that he can't run off and socialise in normal parks with other dogs as he tends to get extremely aggressive with larger dogs, small dogs aren't a problem though...I've often had small terriers tear on to his neck and he'd just stand there, waiting for them to stop.
But anyway, I'd really appreciate if ye could give me a few places. It'd make me and my dogs life much easier.
His name is Bandit by the way

This must be a windup is it?

JayJoeson

Big thank you to the people who actually gave me ideas and tried to help me out! I'll try get out to one of those places when its quiet or at night to be safe.
The rest of you, thanks for not helping Bandit have a better life!

kcb

JayJoeson wrote: »

Big thank you to the people who actually gave me ideas and tried to help me out! I'll try get out to one of those places when its quiet or at night to be safe.
The rest of you, thanks for not helping Bandit have a better life!

Fingers crossed, when "Bandit" is roaming free, the animal doesn't impact on anyone else's lives.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

The dangerous breed thing is always a misnomer though isn't it?....

Yup, a buddy had a lovely Staffy, I came across him one day (he was after escaping after being frightened by a car on fire neat his house).... I won't lie, as I wasn't 100% sure it was my buddies dog I was a tad apprehensive approaching him, but approach I did and asked was he "Jack" (buddies Staffy was named Jack), indeed it was so I brought him home to his ole lad

mordeith

JayJoeson wrote: »

The rest of you, thanks for not helping Bandit have a better life!

That's your responsibility, nobody else's. You should have researched all this before getting the animal.

goochy

Where did you get dog ? Can't see any Where like dogs trust giving someone so cluless such a dog !

bridgettedon

I think the key is going places when it is quiet or dark like you mentioned. I do the same with my dog as he loves being off the lead and put on the lead if i see someone else. If he needs to be muzzled could you not let him off the lead but he still has a muzzle on, just to be safe. Some people, including myself don't like unfamiliar dogs so caution is advised around others.

Milly33

There is a park on Ballinlough road that has a gate at the end so you could close it, again as such you should not really leave the dog off the lead if others are around so perhaps going there late would be the option.. After that I would say going for a drive and finding a field to let him off..

pwurple

Milly33 wrote: »

After that I would say going for a drive and finding a field to let him off..

Milly, that is a daft suggestion in lambing season. Op, please do NOT bring a staffie to a random farm and let him off the lead unless you want a load of dead livestock and someone with a shotgun looking for you.

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

Milly, that is a daft suggestion in lambing season. Op, please do NOT bring a staffie to a random farm and let him off the lead unless you want a load of dead livestock and someone with a shotgun looking for you.

Pretty sure Milly wasn't suggesting that the OP brings his wild ravenous dog to a field full of new born lambs and set it loose to wreck havoc.

I'm going to go out on a limb and believe that Milly was prompting the idea of finding a suitable field that the dog could run around in.

Milly33

I was just going to say pwurple!! You got the Farm bit there all by yourself...I said a field, I by no means suggested as mmagic mentioned of letting the dog loose on a farm....

Sonics2k

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Pretty sure Milly wasn't suggesting that the OP brings his wild ravenous dog to a field full of new born lambs and set it loose to wreck havoc.

I'm going to go out on a lamb and believe that Milly was prompting the idea of finding a suitable field that the dog could run around in.

Fixed that for you :P

Milly33

chortle chortle!!!

etoughguy

JayJoeson wrote: »

Big thank you to the people who actually gave me ideas and tried to help me out! I'll try get out to one of those places when its quiet or at night to be safe.
The rest of you, thanks for not helping Bandit have a better life!

How's it up to other people?As the father of a 5 year old I hope the dog is never off a leash, I don't care how well you know the animal or how many people you tell "he wouldnt go near ya".

pwurple

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Pretty sure Milly wasn't suggesting that the OP brings his wild ravenous dog to a field full of new born lambs and set it loose to wreck havoc.

How much ground can a young staffie cover in a few minutes I wonder?

Milly33

How much ground can a lamb cover in a few mins. Sorry pwurple but it doesn't matter. If he had said it was a lab would you be saying the same thing

pwurple

Milly33 wrote: »

How much ground can a lamb cover in a few mins.

Uh, not very much. Are you into bloodsports or something?

Milly33 wrote: »

Sorry pwurple but it doesn't matter. If he had said it was a lab would you be saying the same thing

Yes, of course I would. It's completely reckless leaving dogs off leads when people's livelihoods depends on their animals not being harassed or killed by some clueless city thicko who wants to bring their pampered pet out for a jaunt in the countryside.

And I say that as a city girl myself.

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

Yes, of course I would. It's completely reckless leaving dogs off leads when people's livelihoods depends on their animals not being harassed or killed by some clueless city thicko who wants to bring their pampered pet out for a jaunt in the countryside.

You're going to an extreme on this. Nobody is suggesting that if their dog is uncontrollable that they should be taking them out to a farm and allowed near vulnerable animals.
I think Milly's suggestion was, assuming the dog was playful/controllable/obedient, that an open field, with nothing around within view; could be used to throw a ball around with the dog.

Questioning that Milly is into blood sports doesn't further your argument, it just weakens it.

pwurple

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Questioning that Milly is into blood sports doesn't further your argument, it just weakens it.

I was obviously being facetious. Milly was declaring that a lamb can outrun a staffie chasing it.

Did I need a few LOLs or smileys to make that clear? I'll go for that next time.

A young dog (which this one is) can vanish out of a field in a couple of seconds if it sees something interesting. Poof, and the damage is done.

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

Milly was declaring that a lamb can outrun a staffie chasing it.

Are you being obviously facetious again? Cause she didn't declare that.

pwurple wrote: »

A young dog (which this one is) can vanish out of a field in a couple of seconds if it sees something interesting. Poof, and the damage is done.

Yes, it can. But where did it run to? Into the next empty field, and then run back? We can all make up imaginary scenarios.

Milly33

its a joke pwurple

twowheelsonly

Once the dog is obedient and will come to you or stop when called then there's loads of places around, particularly at night or late evening.

I have a little cross-breed something-or-other (didn't make up a fancy name like husky-doodle-dee or anything for her yet !!) that at night I take over to the B&Q car park and she runs around for the bones of an hour. if I have time off during the week I take her along the Mahon railway line and into a field at the back of Bessboro (entry is close to the Mahon side on the footbridge). It's usually quiet there although a couple of others use it as well from time to time.

Having said that, she's very good to come to me on a whistle or command. (Unless she's eating a child and lamb sandwich which always gets first preference). I can understand peoples apprehension regarding the Staffie - my sister has them and I'm wary of them but in reality they are actually slobs - and well trained slobs at that.

pwurple

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Yes, it can. But where did it run to? Into the next empty field, and then run back? We can all make up imaginary scenarios.

And if the next field isn't empty?

It's spring. The busiest time of the year for farmers with livestock.

Just have a small bit of consideration for other people and other animals, it's not a lot to ask surely. Just refrain from being heedless for a short period of time. Recommence at a later date.

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

And if the next field isn't empty?

And if it is empty? And there's no animals within a one mile radius?
It's nothing to do with consideration if you want to continue with making up scenarios.

Milly's suggestion was just that, a suggestion. I think the majority would have taken it with the idea of being considerate and wary of other animals in the vicinity.

Taking things to your extreme, then can we accuse you of prompting that all dogs should be put down in case they break out of there owners grip or dwelling, and run amok?

pwurple

munstermagic11 wrote: »

. I think the majority would have taken it with the idea of being considerate and wary of other animals in the vicinity.

You really think everyone who suggests taking a young dog and letting it go in someone elses's field after dark is considerate and wary?

It doesn't go without saying, and it's not obvious to a lot of people, because it happens constantly.

mordeith

I think whether there are animals in the field or not is irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. It's trespassing either way. Most farmers won't be happy with a stranger and their dog on their land (sheep or no sheep).

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

You really think everyone who suggests taking a young dog and letting it go in someone elses's field after dark is considerate and wary?

I didn't say that. And neither did Milly btw. You seem to constantly read dialogue that isn't there.
I was speaking about Milly's suggestion. And given her track history on here, she was making a simple helpful suggestion. One that, I at least, took with the idea that she implied (without needing to state the obvious) was done with permission and a sense of consideration. Note she never once used the language you refer to.

pwurple wrote: »

It doesn't go without saying, and it's not obvious to a lot of people, because it happens constantly.

Define constantly? And perhaps link to these constant occurrences?

pwurple

munstermagic11 wrote: »

I didn't say that. And neither did Milly btw. You seem to constantly read dialogue that isn't there.
I was speaking about Milly's suggestion. And given her track history on here, she was making a simple helpful suggestion. One that, I at least, took with the idea that she implied (without needing to state the obvious) was done with permission and a sense of consideration. Note she never once used the language you refer to.

It's neither simple nor helpful. It's an obnoxious thing to do in spring on someone else's land. Of things she never mentioned avoiding livestock, and asking for permission. So, never used the lanuage you refer to either.

Ireland is badly served for keeping dogs as pets. There are no dedicated public dog parks. If you don't have a hundred acres yourself, it is difficult to exercise a dog properly without being a pest to someone else.

Places top of the list to avoid are residential areas and farms.

Industrial estates without people in them would be slightly better. Your own land is top of the list.

Milly33

Pwurple you really are picking up these comments all the wrong way but sure ill leave it with you

Bradt Pitt

Always makes me laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU

mik_da_man

As a staffie owner I know the issues.

Basically your kinda stuck.
Legally the dog must be on a leash and muzzeled in public places.

While they generally are very docile dogs, they have the capability to do a lot of damage and people who don't know the dog are afraid of that, and IMO rightly so.

I have a long leash for mine, and she's not always muzzeled.

Fields are not really an option as a field is generally part of a farm, and coming from a farming background farmers don't appreciate people and especially people with dog's on their land without permission.

Some people have made suggestions, but personally I'd not be letting the dog off the leash in a public place, no matter what time of the day it is. Things can turn very quickly.

If you knew a tillage farmer with no livestock near the field that may be an option.

j8wk2feszrnpao

pwurple wrote: »

Of things she never mentioned avoiding livestock, and asking for permission. So, never used the lanuage you refer to either.

I know, that's why I said 'implied'.
She never said letting the dog loose around livestock or not asking permission. Given her usual tone on boards, you could have gone with the benefit of the doubt than take it to an extreme that wasn't implied.

Sonics2k

Jesus, what's with the aggression on Cork City forum lately?

endacl

Sonics2k wrote: »

Jesus, what's with the aggression on Cork City forum lately?

SHUT UP! WHO ASKED YOU ANYWAY?!?

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Milly33

It must be the rain like... Causing everyone to be grumpy