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pm.

Hi guys

I ordered my new car Audi A4 3.0 tdi quattro se on the 26th Feb, any idea on what manafacturing back log is like ? It's via lease plan and I'm finding it hard to get an answer

Drummerboy08

I'd say anything from 8 to 12 weeks if it's a fresh order from the factory.

That's assuming there's no delays at the factory either, could easily be longer if there's a production restriction.

Leaseplan should be able to find out how far away it is.

Comhrá

pm. wrote: »

Hi guys

I ordered my new car Audi A4 3.0 tdi quattro se on the 26th Feb, any idea on what manafacturing back log is like ? It's via lease plan and I'm finding it hard to get an answer

I ordered a new A4 late October 2015 and had it on Jan 28th 2016. the dealer told me it would take 12 weeks and it arrived pretty well on time.

Sounds like a nice machine, the 3.0 TDI Quattro.....you must be looking forward to it. Should be a beauty!

mickdw

That's a proper A4.
The price would be on the scary side id say.

Comhrá

mickdw wrote: »

That's a proper A4.
The price would be on the scary side id say.

It sure is :-) Mine is the more modest 1.4 petrol with S-Tronic but the 150 hp is reasonably brisk - at least for my needs anyway. The new A4's interior is really nice though - by far the quietest car I've ever driven.

colm_mcm

Wow, there's 3 a4 3.0 registered up till end of Feb.

8 3 series (2 petrol, 4 diesel)

pm.

tippman1 wrote: »

I ordered a new A4 late October 2015 and had it on Jan 28th 2016. the dealer told me it would take 12 weeks and it arrived pretty well on time.

Sounds like a nice machine, the 3.0 TDI Quattro.....you must be looking forward to it. Should be a beauty!

Can't wait tbh it's a bit smaller than my current car but the trade off on size just to hear the Pur from the v6 will be worth it... For me anyway not sure the kids will agree 😀

colm_mcm

Was it a throw up between an A6 size 2.0 or the A4? I'd have done the same tbh

R.O.R

I have an A4 3.0Tdi quattro on order. I'll chase the dealer in the morning as I don't think I've been given a build week on it yet.

Some A4's are taking a while to come through. Ordered one 23rd December - just a White 150ps SE saloon, and that's due on the next boat.

I'm also waiting on sign off on an order for another 3.0Tdi A4, but this is a FWD S-Line - about the same price as the SE quattro 3.0Tdi. The 3.0Tdi SE quattro gets a nice set of wheels so I'd be going SE quattro over S-Line FWD.

Driver is in for a nasty shock I reckon - test drove a 190 DSG A4 at the launch, in the p1ssing rain, and that just couldn't get the power down. The extra power and torque with the bigger engine going through the fronts is probably going to be a nightmare. Just hope I've got the tyre budget right.....

pm.

I had the s line fwd on the list also, but I decided to drop the bucket seats and side skirts for traction.. Also the 0 to 100 is almost 1 second quicker than the fwd..

I could have had the A6 2.0 but the A4 won

carsfan

Will be an awesome car.
Does the 3.0 litre get any extra kit over the lower powered models?

pm.

The only free upgrade is 18" wheels

R.O.R

pm. wrote: »

I had the s line fwd on the list also, but I decided to drop the bucket seats and side skirts for traction.. Also the 0 to 100 is almost 1 second quicker than the fwd..

I could have had the A6 2.0 but the A4 won

I suspect your car isn't on order with Leaseplan as the FWD A4 3.0tdi is being ordered for the same customer as the quattro......

Del2005

pm. wrote: »

Can't wait tbh it's a bit smaller than my current car but the trade off on size just to hear the Pur from the v6 will be worth it... For me anyway not sure the kids will agree 😀

Diesels don't purr.

Nice car, have fun.

mickdw

Del2005 wrote: »

Diesels don't purr.

Nice car, have fun.

To be fair, a nice 6 cylinder modern diesel pretty much does.

Special Circumstances

mickdw wrote: »

To be fair, a nice 6 cylinder modern diesel pretty much does.

Plenty of people think even the 4 pots are indistinguishable in terms of noise compared to a petrol engine in the same car.

Personally I think a stop start diesel engine in traffic sounds more like "hocking up furballs" than "purring" but hey, they're much healthier options than petrols ha? :pac:

Leonard Hofstadter

mickdw wrote: »

To be fair, a nice 6 cylinder modern diesel pretty much does.

Well I wouldn't go that far, but six pot diesels are rather nice things all the same, they're in a completely different league to a four cylinder diesel.

Anyway, best of luck OP, nice to see someone ordering something different and not the boggo diesel version everyone else will buy .

mickdw

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Plenty of people think even the 4 pots are indistinguishable in terms of noise compared to a petrol engine in the same car.

Personally I think a stop start diesel engine in traffic sounds more like "hocking up furballs" than "purring" but hey, they're much healthier options than petrols ha? :pac:

That stop start is hateful. Fitting it to a diesel engine is madness.
The only stop start that works imo is petrol electric hybrid where you can move away silently again and the engine comes in on the move.

dodzy

Out of interest, how much would the OP's car be ? Sounds bloody lovely.

Special Circumstances

mickdw wrote: »

That stop start is hateful. Fitting it to a diesel engine is madness.

Yes and no...
Not madness because they are literally noxious yokes to be encouraging everyone to drive in a city - at least if they are stopped they're not pumping out NOX and whatever particulates the removed DPF would have caught.

Yes madness if the restart puts them into a worse polluting state for a few seconds every time in shuffling traffic. And the obvious aural assault on the general public.

colm_mcm

dodzy wrote: »

Out of interest, how much would the OP's car be ? Sounds bloody lovely.

Early €50s

mickdw

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Yes and no...
Not madness because they are literally noxious yokes to be encouraging everyone to drive in a city - at least if they are stopped they're not pumping out NOX and whatever particulates the removed DPF would have caught.

Yes madness if the restart puts them into a worse polluting state for a few seconds every time in shuffling traffic. And the obvious aural assault on the general public.

I was talking purely from the driver annoyance point of view. Its a head wrecker. I was passenger with someone who had it. After the car stopped 4 or 5 times in short order in traffic I was fit to do a basil faulty on it. 4 cylinder diesel going all quiet and jumping back to life. Crazy.

EDit

colm_mcm wrote: »

Early €50s

I was looking at the SE 3.0 Quattro saloon recently and it is pretty much 50k for the car. Mind you, using the configurator, it is very easy to get up to mid and even high 50s with all the optional extras.

R.O.R

dodzy wrote: »

Out of interest, how much would the OP's car be ? Sounds bloody lovely.

€51,366.10 including metallic, but excluding delivery.

€200 a year to tax

dodzy

R.O.R wrote: »

€51,366.10 including metallic, but excluding delivery.

€200 a year to tax

I think I'll get a loan and mimic your purchase.....purely for the tax savings. Sure everyone's doing it these days

Always wondered why the prices exclude delivery ? Surely they could just throw this in as a freebie ?

R.O.R

dodzy wrote: »

I think I'll get a loan and mimic your purchase.....purely for the tax savings. Sure everyone's doing it these days

Lease it - it's what all the Kool Kidz are doing these days :pac:

dodzy wrote: »

Always wondered why the prices exclude delivery ? Surely they could just throw this in as a freebie ?

As far as I can figure out, it means delivery isn't subject to VRT - if it was part of the advertised cost it would be.

A lot of it is profit for the dealer - we get charged actual costs from some manufacturers and standard costs from others, and there's a huge difference there.

grogi

mickdw wrote: »

I was talking purely from the driver annoyance point of view. Its a head wrecker. I was passenger with someone who had it. After the car stopped 4 or 5 times in short order in traffic I was fit to do a basil faulty on it. 4 cylinder diesel going all quiet and jumping back to life. Crazy.

I absolutely agree.

With a manual it is manageable - usually the engine will not switch off if the box is in gear; you have to put it in N and release the clutch. That way you can tell the car if it is a long red-light stop or you're just slowly going forward to the roundabout.

With an auto transmission the car simply does not know and have to guess, based on the distance and speed travelled from the previous stop (if it is even that intelligent). Hybrids are much better - they can advance at slow pace without switching the ICE on...

dodzy

R.O.R wrote: »

Lease it - it's what all the Kool Kidz are doing these days :pac:



As far as I can figure out, it means delivery isn't subject to VRT - if it was part of the advertised cost it would be.

A lot of it is profit for the dealer - we get charged actual costs from some manufacturers and standard costs from others, and there's a huge difference there.

Cheers for the detailed reply R.O.R.

Again, purely out of interest, for something in this price bracket, what kind of monthly drain on your account would you be talking going the 'lease' route? Sorry for going O/T !

carsfan

Yeah you need to add a bit to turn it into a nicer machine.
Heated seats, auto dim mirrors, autolights and wipers are all extra.
Very quick to get to 55k

R.O.R

dodzy wrote: »

Cheers for the detailed reply R.O.R.

Again, purely out of interest, for something in this price bracket, what kind of monthly drain on your account would you be talking going the 'lease' route? Sorry for going O/T !

For a business lease, it depends on the term (3 or 4 years generally) and the mileage.

4 year / 120,000km is roughly €750 ex. VAT per month.

bazz26

carsfan wrote: »

Yeah you need to add a bit to turn it into a nicer machine.
Heated seats, auto dim mirrors, autolights and wipers are all extra.
Very quick to get to 55k

On an already 50k car? Jesus weeps! My sister's 8 year old Ford Fiesta has those as standard.

JoeA3

mickdw wrote: »

I was talking purely from the driver annoyance point of view. Its a head wrecker. I was passenger with someone who had it. After the car stopped 4 or 5 times in short order in traffic I was fit to do a basil faulty on it. 4 cylinder diesel going all quiet and jumping back to life. Crazy.

I have it and I often disable it. Button on the dash turns it off and I assume the Audi's are the same.

dodzy

bazz26 wrote: »

On an already 50k car? Jesus weeps! My sister's 8 year old Ford Fiesta has those as standard.

Whatever about the A/D mirrors and heated seats, the auto wipers & lights must be standard on even the bog standard A4s, never mind the higher end stuff.

mickdw

Well I would assume the new A4 should have that stuff as standard. The last model didn't. I was in a 131 a4 the other day. No auto lights or wipers. No interior dimming mirror.
Nothing at all spec wise.

grogi

R.O.R wrote: »

For a business lease, it depends on the term (3 or 4 years generally) and the mileage.

4 year / 120,000km is roughly €750 ex. VAT per month.

How much is left to be paid to purchase it after those 4 years?

carsfan

No standard auto lights or wipers. I was in an Audi dealer looking at one a few weeks back. Sales guy thought they were standard then when we checked the configutator turns out they're a few hundred quid. Same with an auto dim interior mirror, a couple of hundred. Five hundred then for heated seats.
Gorgeous finish to the cars however just some mean specs. I thought the bigger engines might have given a bit more but doesn't seem to be the case.

GustavoFring

mickdw wrote: »

Well I would assume the new A4 should have that stuff as standard. The last model didn't. I was in a 131 a4 the other day. No auto lights or wipers. No interior dimming mirror.
Nothing at all spec wise.

They're €400 extras believe it or not...considering they are the norm an a lot of cars these days and have been for some time that seems like a baffling omission to me.

bazz26

Complete piss take. Paying 50k for a car like that and still getting a miserable spec these days is shocking and unforgivable imo. This technology is pretty much standard on mid spec models from the other VAG "lesser" brands so it's not as if the technology costs big bucks for Audi to fit. This is more a case of you pay more for less and if you want it you have to pay more again.

R.O.R

grogi wrote: »

How much is left to be paid to purchase it after those 4 years?

Market Value - no guaranteed buyout on a Contract Hire agreement.

I could live without auto lights, as long as you can just leave them on all the time and they go off with the engine.

I'd miss auto wipers, but I could get over that.

I couldn't live without an auto dimming rear view mirror though.

Serious omissions in my opinion by Audi - when a car has Nav and Leather as standard, you expect it to have the little things too.

pm.

I fully agree the extras or lack of are silly... even to have the center arm rest adjust to your height is an extra :eek: I almost went for the Ford Vingale 2.0 twin turbo ( I think its 220 bhp 450 ft/ Torque ) but it was the 3.0 v6 quattro that made me go for the A4 tbh.

My current car is a Superb 170bhp and has almost every possible extra but I will miss auto lights / wipers / mirror. Some of the extras like self parking is never used

R.O.R

Got a lead time for my order.

Ordered with the dealer 24/02.
ETA in to the country 09/05

Probably another week after arrival before it's ready to go, so 12 weeks from order to delivery - pretty much what we'd estimate for a new A4.

pm.

I noticed that beside the fuel tank there is another lid that says ad blue ? do you have fill this up with every fill ?

R.O.R

pm. wrote: »

I noticed that beside the fuel tank there is another lid that says ad blue ? do you have fill this up with every fill ?

Not with every fill, but it won't last until service time.

We're seeing roughly 11,000km between fills on A6's with AdBlue - they have a 17 litre tank, but hopefully you should get around 10k from the AdBlue, so 2 fills between servicing.

54 Litre Fuel Tank as standard on the 3.0Tdi rather than piddly 40 litre standard tank on the 2.0Tdi's

pm.

R.O.R wrote: »

Not with every fill, but it won't last until service time.

We're seeing roughly 11,000km between fills on A6's with AdBlue - they have a 17 litre tank, but hopefully you should get around 10k from the AdBlue, so 2 fills between servicing.

54 Litre Fuel Tank as standard on the 3.0Tdi rather than piddly 40 litre standard tank on the 2.0Tdi's

What happens if it runs out will the car still operate normally ?

54 Ltr great a 40ltr tank would be head wrecking I could easily do over 2k kms some weeks

grogi

R.O.R wrote: »

Not with every fill, but it won't last until service time.

We're seeing roughly 11,000km between fills on A6's with AdBlue - they have a 17 litre tank, but hopefully you should get around 10k from the AdBlue, so 2 fills between servicing.

54 Litre Fuel Tank as standard on the 3.0Tdi rather than piddly 40 litre standard tank on the 2.0Tdi's

I've seen somewhere it is available at Topaz stations. What are the other sources?

In Germany you can take it from the pump...

R.O.R

pm. wrote: »

What happens if it runs out will the car still operate normally ?

54 Ltr great a 40ltr tank would be head wrecking I could easily do over 2k kms some weeks

DO NOT LET THE ADBLUE RUN OUT!!!!

Car will still drive if you run the AdBlue dry, but won't restart.

You get the first warning at 2,400km to empty, so you'll have a short while to get it filled up, but if it runs completely dry, the car will need to be recovered to an Audi dealership to be filled and reset.

Your fleet company will look after the top up of AdBlue as part of the maintenance.

Special Circumstances

grogi wrote: »

I've seen somewhere it is available at Topaz stations. What are the other sources?

In Germany you can take it from the pump...

Pig urine.
You could collect it a the mart maybe?

Special Circumstances

R.O.R wrote: »

DO NOT LET THE ADBLUE RUN OUT!!!!

Car will still drive if you run the AdBlue dry, but won't restart.

How does it know you didn't just wee in the tank?
I love this guys reg

R.O.R

Topaz sell 1.9 Litre bottles of AdBlue - think they are around €12, so pretty costly to do it that way, as well as time consuming and you may not be able to fill the tank due to the flow rate (tested by a very kind customer with 1.5 Litre bottles - only got 3 bottles in after he ran it dry on purpose, then it had to go to Audi for a full fill and reset).

Cheaper, quicker and safer to take it to a main dealer - roughly €60 for a fill from Audi, but some Fast Fit / First Stop locations are set up to supply AdBlue at a much lower cost.

AdBlue for trucks is available at fuel stations, but the filler nozzle is bigger and the flow rate is too high for cars. Only a matter of time before there's a car AdBlue pump at every fuel station, but that's probably a few years away.

I've no doubt we'll see a good few threads on AdBlue in the next couple of years. Those in the know think it will need to be fitted to all diesels fairly soon, and it's already getting fairly common on new cars.

ba_barabus

R.O.R wrote: »

Those in the know think it will need to be fitted to all diesels fairly soon, and it's already getting fairly common on new cars.

There's not a hope they'll get through the next set of Euro emissions controls without it. Petrol will be more popular as times goes on again I think with all the regulation of diesel.

grogi

R.O.R wrote: »

Topaz sell 1.9 Litre bottles of AdBlue - think they are around €12, so pretty costly to do it that way, as well as time consuming and you may not be able to fill the tank due to the flow rate (tested by a very kind customer with 1.5 Litre bottles - only got 3 bottles in after he ran it dry on purpose, then it had to go to Audi for a full fill and reset).

Cheaper, quicker and safer to take it to a main dealer - roughly €60 for a fill from Audi, but some Fast Fit / First Stop locations are set up to supply AdBlue at a much lower cost.

Just found that Amazon is selling 10l bottles for roughly €20 - a bit cheaper than Topaz...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cartec-9923-AdBlue-Exhaust-Aftertreatment/dp/B00SWLLS6Y