Getting thrown out of places for vaping.

Parachutes

Anyone experience this kind of thing?

I'm constantly being told to stop or to get out while vaping in cafes, resturants etc. I understand that it is at the descretion of the owner of the particular premise but at this rate I might as well be going out for a fag.

I'm usually told to "Stop smoking" when I inform them it's an e-cig I usually get a response such as "Read the smoking ban" or "Smoking has been banned since 2004" just wondering if we have any leg to stand on in this regard. As far as I know the smoking ban is so specific in it's phraseology regarding tobacco that you can actually smoke herbal ciggs in pubs.

I was thrown out of the pictures mid film the weekend without a refund. The prevailing attitude seems to be "It looks like smoking, therefore bad!" despite no evidence that the second hand steam is harmful.

Dissapointing to say the least!

o1s1n

Odd, I vape everywhere and haven't been asked to stop once.

Are you producing massive clouds? Maybe a bit more discretion and smaller plumes would help?

colly10

Im vaping since 2011 and have never had this happen to me. Maybe 1 or 2 pubs in that time said not in here but ive said no problem and ignored them.
Work is the only place I can't vape except if i step through the door into the main building.
I think you're just unlucky, i avoid blowing clowds though as that can draw attention, maybe you're doing that?

RonanP77

Parachutes wrote:

I was thrown out of the pictures mid film the weekend without a refund. The prevailing attitude seems to be "It looks like smoking, therefore bad!" despite no evidence that the second hand steam is harmful.

There's not enough evidence that it isn't harmful either, we really don't know yet do we? If somebody sitting beside me in the cinema (you don't get much closer to someone than that) started it, I'd ask them nicely to stop and if they refused I'd go complain about it.

Films aren't all that long anyway so it shouldn't be too hard to wait until you get outside after its over.

parttime

Maybe ask first?

poolboy

Parachutes wrote: »

Anyone experience this kind of thing?

I'm constantly being told to stop or to get out while vaping in cafes, resturants etc. I understand that it is at the descretion of the owner of the particular premise but at this rate I might as well be going out for a fag.

I'm usually told to "Stop smoking" when I inform them it's an e-cig I usually get a response such as "Read the smoking ban" or "Smoking has been banned since 2004" just wondering if we have any leg to stand on in this regard. As far as I know the smoking ban is so specific in it's phraseology regarding tobacco that you can actually smoke herbal ciggs in pubs.

I was thrown out of the pictures mid film the weekend without a refund. The prevailing attitude seems to be "It looks like smoking, therefore bad!" despite no evidence that the second hand steam is harmful.

Dissapointing to say the least!

No evidence to prove "second hand steam" isn't harmful either. They smell disgusting and it's pretty ignorant to assume non vapours have no problem with them. As for using it in the cinema if you don't see what's wrong with that well........

VincePP

The stench off them is dreadful - someone was vaping at a table next to me in a restaurant in Waterford last year and I asked to be moved. Stench still wafted, so we left.

I notice that the restaurant now bans it.

Its not just about the "smoking" too many of them just have an awful stench.

eurokev

You would seriously want to be one ignorant 'person' to start vaping in restaurants and cinemas.
Like seriously a bit of consideration is in order.
I vape a bit myself and would never do that. And I would be seriously annoyed if someone did around me. Its just pig ignorant.

Reasons:
1) In cinema plumes of vapour could not be anything other than annoying.
2) In restaurants, vapour does smell so would be annoying when eating your food.

I have only ever seen a few people vape in pubs, and usually its some weirdo, most people are considerate enough to understand the vast majority are still very uncomfortable with vaping inside so would not even dare to ask let alone do. Maybe its the fact that you can see the vapour and a are breathing it in, I personally don't like breathing in other peoples air, yes I know I do anyway all the time, but the fact that I cant see it doesn't make it an issue I suppose.
Nobody can be 'hanging' that much for a vape that they should be doing it inside public places ever imo.

But inevitably the kind of person that would, is just going to come back with the high horse excuse of 'Im only breathing out water vapour' / 'Its not tobacco, theres no law against it man'

foggy_lad

All public transport services operated by Irish Rail Bus Eireann and Dublin bus ban vaping on their vehicles and in their buildings, most private bus operators ban it also, many pubs and restaurants also ban vaping, before long it will be as anti social as smoking.

eeguy

Personally I don't like vaping any more than smoking.

Doing it in a cinema is just plain wrong. Never mind the smell, the smoke would be distracting enough.

Some of the mixes are really smoky too. Saw a guy walking through college green the other day followed by huge white clouds. Never saw anything like it.

Thecageyone

Where the hell are all these non vapers crawling out from? lol, this is the Vaping section ... I thought

As for people saying "the stench of them"? I don't know what the hell you lot are smelling, but most juices these days smell like desserts.

Moaners gotta moan. Would you be happier if were all still smoking the stuff that actually has a stench? and actually kills people?

Do some research, get your nostrils checked, and stop talking nonsense.

the_syco

From experience;

Small puffs vaping; no problems
Sub Ohm cloud chasing; have been asked not to do it in one or two places.

moleyv

parttime wrote:

Maybe ask first?

This!!!

As an avid vaper, it only takes a few seconds to ask and can avoid any conflict.

I don't see the need to vape in a restaurant. In bars, I guess for me its a bit different, most of my friends smoke so I just head to the smoking area. Or if its a quiet bar, or towards the end of the night and things are quitening down, I just ask the bar staff / bouncers.

In a cinema vapour would be hugely obvious when caught by the bright projector lights. Certainly causing a distraction to other cinema goer's. Equipment that produces only small amounts of vapour could be used, but out of courtesy and the small chance it will still catch the light, I would avoid. The days of 3.5 hours of titanic are long gone if hanging for your fix.

What really 'grinds my gears' is if in a smoking area, and someone gives out to me while vaping, with proven dangerous smoke pouring out their nostrils. Its at that point I see how much clouds I can chuck.

As for those who say it smells bad? Just curious as to what you say it smells like? The majority flavours are fruity or desert style. Tobacco flavours are in the minority.

The two main ingredients used are also used in medical inhalers, they have antibacterial properties, so my 'clouds' likely are cleaner than your 'wiffy' breath. Flavours are all food grade, and nicotine isn't the 'dangerous' part of cigarettes.

But ignorance is bliss eh, I guess the NHS must be wrong about making them available through prescription. Maybe the Daily Mail are more qualified to tell us what is safe.

8mm

New study proves there is no second-hand vaping:

e-cigarette aerosol contains less volatile compounds than normal exhaled breath

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/226-sp

Please stop with the "who knows what's in those yokes" type assumptions - we know what's in them and we know this saves lives.

yoke

That Dr Farsalino guy sounds like he was paid by an e-cig company or something - funny how he downplays (while still admitting) that nicotine exhaled from a person's breath while vaping is roughly the same amount as a regular tobacco cigarette smoker would exhale:

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2014/184-passive-vape

The headline says in bold print "Nicotine absorbed from “passive vaping” is minimal and with no health implications", however buried in the article we can see:
"The main finding of the study was that “passive vaping” results in nicotine absorption from non-smokers non-vapers, at similar levels as those exposed to smoke from tobacco cigarettes."

Further in the article, he goes on about how passive vaping has "no biological effects", while admitting in the same paragraph that the nicotine was directly responsible for heart-rate acceleration and is falling foul of european regulations based on that. He goes on to argue against the european regulations, using some maths which is based on a 75kg "average adult" - wtf? Do children not count? babies/toddlers? what about the fact that noone sits in a house with tobacco smoke in it (most smokers I know ventilate their houses a lot more because of the smell, whereas there is no such reason for extra ventilation in the homes of vapers as there is no smell. Surely this means that the people living with vapers will breathe the nicotine-laden air for much longer than people living with smokers?).

There are so many holes and un-answered questions in his arguments that it's pointless to attack him point-by-point, we'd be here all day.

Readers can make up their own minds, but they should be aware that nicotine is a compound that you cannot smell, you cannot taste, and you cannot see, but it still kills your brain cells and therefore makes you stupider. Loads of research from even 14 years ago showing that - example:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2286-nicotine-stops-new-brain-cells-forming/

I hope vaping goes the way of cigarettes.

Victor

Thecageyone wrote: »

Where the hell are all these non vapers crawling out from? lol, this is the Vaping section

Meanwhile, the rest of us thought the buildings we were in were the food-eating section or the film-watching section.

was.deevey

"The main finding of the study was that “passive vaping” results in nicotine absorption from non-smokers non-vapers, at similar levels as those exposed to smoke from tobacco cigarettes."

Which is a tiny amount, as Nicotine is absorbed FAST upon inhalation with very little left in the exhaled breath.

The amount of nicotine bsorbed by a passer by is even less than a tiny amount unless you are breathing in ALL the exhaled smoke directly at someone and forcing them to breath it in a sealed box, then you might see a tiny increase in their nicotine absorption.

Then again they probably show the same trace amounts of nicotine if they eat a Bolognese, and have less CO than going for a heathy walk in any park in Dublin

and therefore makes you stupider.

You got there on your own mate

Nicotine was never the problem, the CO2, CO and other 4000 chemicals being released by BURNING are the real issues with smoking.

However, I don't believe that a Non-Smoker/Non-Vaper should have to be inconvenienced by my habit, but I should not have to be inconvenienced by the smell of noticeable combination of P1ss and Guinness fart smells in a pub either.

Some Vapers are Stupid and blow clouds everywhere to make themselves the argument point, some non-smokers/vapers are stupid and only read the headlines of the Sun or Daily Mail and happily join the argument uninformed and quote studies that were done 20 years ago and dismiss any studies that don't back up their argument.

eeguy

Thecageyone wrote: »

Where the hell are all these non vapers crawling out from? lol, this is the Vaping section ... I thought

So you don't want any non vapers participating in a discussion about the perception of vaping by non-vapers??

j26m

You're on someone elses property, you ask what their rules are, and abide by them. Simple, really.

EGriff

Thecageyone wrote: »

Where the hell are all these non vapers crawling out from? lol, this is the Vaping section ... I thought

As for people saying "the stench of them"? I don't know what the hell you lot are smelling, but most juices these days smell like desserts.

Moaners gotta moan. Would you be happier if were all still smoking the stuff that actually has a stench? and actually kills people?

Do some research, get your nostrils checked, and stop talking nonsense.

They always pop up in these threads, and very fast too, with their copy and paste paragraphs ready.

parttime

I am a vaper, just not an ignorant one!

JohnFalstaff

Were you also laughing very loudly throughout the film?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm81LSKJC2k

nkav86

I think its quite rude to vape in an enclosed public space like a cinema or restaurant. As a vaper unless I have permission I wouldn't even vape in someone's house, regardless of dangers it's intrusive, clouds of sweet and sometimes sickly smelling vapor are irritating as hell, I generally treat it like I did smoking, by being polite and considerate, just because I vape instead of smoke now doesn't mean I get a free pass to do what I want

Del2005

Thecageyone wrote: »

Where the hell are all these non vapers crawling out from? lol, this is the Vaping section ... I thought

As for people saying "the stench of them"? I don't know what the hell you lot are smelling, but most juices these days smell like desserts.

Moaners gotta moan. Would you be happier if were all still smoking the stuff that actually has a stench? and actually kills people?

Do some research, get your nostrils checked, and stop talking nonsense.

Farting is also harmless, doesn't mean that farting in public is socialist acceptable. There's a time and place for everything.

Thecageyone

eeguy wrote: »

So you don't want any non vapers participating in a discussion about the perception of vaping by non-vapers??

Where are you lot 99.99% of the time then? This seems very random that a bunch of you suddenly attacking someone for saying they vape in public ... very fishy IMO

We're here all the time, where have you been?

Come and get educated, many of us here make our own E-liquid and can tell you EXACTLY what's in there. All 4 ingredients. Maybe if some of you over exaggerating anti's stopped reading the hogwash you chose to believe, and started reading actual FACTS, better discussions could arise.

For now it seems a bunch gt together and decided to attack one post that was probably moved in here, for no apparent reason, from the aggressive giving up smoking area.

EGriff wrote: »

They always pop up in these threads, and very fast too, with their copy and paste paragraphs ready.

They need to get out more then, I see I come across those types on Facebook too, or used to, before I set them straight with some actual facts. It seems a lot of the 'anti' brigade don't want to be educated though, they just like a moan. They used to bitch at us for smoking, but now we've moved on and they can't bear it. They've got to find some kind of reason to have that old begrudging moan.

If vaping didn't exist I can imagine them following nicorette chewing gum users around telling them it causes stomach cancer or something. That is how silly they come across IMO.

Thecageyone

Del2005 wrote: »

Farting is also harmless, doesn't mean that farting in public is socialist acceptable. There's a time and place for everything.

Dumb logic. If someone farted near you in a pub would you be on here complaining about it? farting is harmless, so thanks for that comparison at least.

Let me ask all of you random antis something: Do you think eating a cake is offensive? do you worry it'll give you cancer or kill you somehow? Ok, maybe you can say well if you eat a lot of cakes, you could become obese and yes, suffer because of it. Well, what if you can have the same flavour, without any of the oils or the fat? That's pretty much what's in that vapor you are scare mongering about. Plenty of vapors now actually vape 0nic, or very low level nicotine, that gets absorbed into the user's bloodstream instantly. What they exhale is pretty much food grade flavouring [the very same as the flavouring used in any sweets, drinks or bakery products you eat] and vegetable glycerine [used in cake icing, cough medicines, various 'health' products]

At the same time, as a 3yr vaper, who smoked for 25yrs, I can tell you I'm a hell of a lot healthier for it. BUT .... I do not vape where it'll irritate others. I still go outside as if I was smoking, I do agree on that point. I never said I agreed with OP, I posted to slate the usual nonsense from the anti's ... who clearly haven't the foggiest [pun intended ]

It's the "They stink" [they don't, unless everyone you've come acrossvaping was on harsh tobacco juices] "who knows what's in them YOKES" [well, every vaper out there does and can tell you] that pisses me off.

Zelda247

What smell! My husband vapes all the time and I have never noticed a smell, neither has anyone else,visitors friends etc.

Penny Tration

Regular here on the vaping forum, avid vaper who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread -


OP, whipping out your ecig in cinemas and restaurants without asking is rude. If given permission, then vape away. My local cinema doesn't mind once we're discreet.

Going into a place like a restaurant or an enclosed space like a screen room and puffing away without considering the comfort of others is rude. it's actions like these that help demonize vaping and give vapers a bad rep!

Yes, passive vaping causes no harm, but saying there's no smell, or that it smells nice isn't fair. The majority of liquids certainly do smell, and many liquids smell nasty.

As an example, most regulars here like khali vapor's Valley Girl liquid.

Not only can I not stand the liquid, the bloody stench from it is vile.

I'm using a key lime pie liquid at the moment that I love, but my sister (also a vaper) hates the smell of.

People are within their rights not to have to sniff your vapour, unless you have permission to vape.

It's simple - ask permission. their property, their rules. Don't just pull out a mod and tank and get snotty when asked not to use it.

Thecageyone

Zelda247 wrote: »

What smell! My husband vapes all the time and I have never noticed a smell, neither has anyone else,visitors friends etc.

The only comments I ever get on the smell, go more like "oooh what's that, smells delicious!" - honestly.

Whereas when I smoked people would straight out comment that the house stank. And I wouldn't have noticed because my senses were knackered from the smoke.

runawaybishop

Thecageyone wrote: »

Where are you lot 99.99% of the time then? This seems very random that a bunch of you suddenly attacking someone for saying they vape in public ... very fishy IMO

http://www.boards.ie/?#tabs-trending

^^ thread is trending. Not that you own this forum or anything, people can post whereever they want.

Calhoun

runawaybishop wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/?#tabs-trending

^^ thread is trending. Not that you own this forum or anything, people can post whereever they want.

Exactly I occasionally browse this forum when it shows up in the trends, as far as I am aware no forum is owned by any individual and anyone can post in them.

This isn't a safe haven where your opinions don't go unchallenged and folk get discredited because they don't post often.

yoke

was.deevey wrote: »

Which is a tiny amount, as Nicotine is absorbed FAST upon inhalation with very little left in the exhaled breath.

The amount of nicotine bsorbed by a passer by is even less than a tiny amount

This is the whole crux of the argument - we're not talking about passer bys, we're talking about people who will be stuck in a house or office with someone vaping the whole day (eg. coworkers, family, kids).
Thinking that your lungs absorb the majority of the nicotine which you inhale in a normal breath is a complete fallacy - i don't know where you got that info from, but I'd be looking at possible vested interests in any source which would say something like that. Sure if your lungs were that efficient we'd never have heroin addicts who inject themselves, as smoking heroin would have similar efficiency.
Due to what seems to be aggressive campaigning by e-cig companies, reminiscent of what was done by the tobacco companies before them with cigarettes, it seems that most people are completely ignorant of the dangers of nicotine itself - everyone seems to think nicotine is this completely harmless drug that doesn't affect your health in any way, and it was only the other chemicals in tobacco smoke that do harm.

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0091743514003739

Above is a proper medical article published in 2014 which says nicotine does harm, if you're interested in reading it.

You got there on your own mate

Nicotine was never the problem, the CO2, CO and other 4000 chemicals being released by BURNING are the real issues with smoking

I didn't get there on my own - there are loads of more recent studies too which have found the same things in that study I posted - nicotine is well known for causing brain cell death, hence my comment. A newer study also found correlations between nicotine use and ability to form new neural pathways, which you need to do to learn new things.

some non-smokers/vapers are stupid and only read the headlines of the Sun or Daily Mail and happily join the argument uninformed and quote studies that were done 20 years ago and dismiss any studies that don't back up their argument.

Could you point out anywhere where I've done that?
Newscientist is hardly the daily mail.

jonski

yoke wrote: »

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0091743514003739

Above is a proper medical article published in 2014 which says nicotine does harm, if you're interested in reading it.



I didn't get there on my own - there are loads of more recent studies too which have found the same things in that study I posted - nicotine is well known for causing brain cell death, hence my comment. A newer study also found correlations between nicotine use and ability to form new neural pathways, which you need to do to learn new things.

Reading that report ( and trying desperately not to fall asleep ) , is this the only part on Nicotine ? , it's the only part I could find , I'll try and read it properly later on .

Nicotine is referred to by some health professionals as harmless, whereas others do not share this view (National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, 2014). A meta-analysis found no increased risk of serious adverse events (Moore et al., 2009). To our knowledge, only one study has investigated the health effects of long-term pure nicotine/NRT use, finding no increase in the risk of cancer (Murray et al., 2009). However, nicotine has a significant biologic activity: in the central nervous system nicotine stimulates the release of important neurotransmitters and hormones (Balfour, 1982), and in the peripheral system it stimulates the release of catecholamines, with effects such as vasoconstriction, increase in heart rate and myocardial contractility (Kilaru et al., 2001). Animal studies suggest that nicotine accelerates atherosclerosis (Kilaru et al., 2001), reduces sperm quality (Condorelli et al., 2013), promotes growth of cancer cells and the proliferation of endothelial cells, reduces the responsiveness of several cancers to chemotherapy (Al-Wadei et al., 2009, Banerjee et al., 2013, Catassi et al., 2008, Dinicola et al., 2013 and Petros et al., 2012), and fetal and neonatal nicotine exposure leads to widespread adverse postnatal physical and mental health consequences (Bruin et al., 2010, Dwyer et al., 2009 and Gao et al., 2008). The applicability to human beings may be questioned. Poison centers are receiving many calls regarding e-fluid (Kilaru et al., 2001); mostly exposures have resulted in minimal toxicity (Vakkalanka et al., 2014), but a case of fatal nicotine poisoning in a child has been reported (Kloosterman, 2013).

8mm

Newscientist is a junky source and while not quite Daily Mail it's articles are poor misinformed op pieces.

The NS reported study on neural problems comes from a study on rats and NS should have pointed out that rodent studies are near junk when it comes to human modelling. They then head into the suspicious territory of scare mongering for nicotine replacement products by associating these with this study.

lee_baby_simms

I vape myself but I'm sick of people who think they're entitled to blow clouds in enclosed public spaces because its not illegal.

Not only is it inconsiderate, you're just pissing in your own paddling pool. It's your actions that gives the public an axe to grind and only emboldens detractors.

Just vape outside with smokers.

eeguy

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I vape myself but I'm sick of people who think they're entitled to blow clouds in enclosed public spaces because its not illegal.

Not only is it inconsiderate, you're just pissing in your own paddling pool. It's your actions that gives the public an axe to grind and only emboldens detractors.

Just vape outside with smokers.

Pretty much this.

No one cares if vaping is harmless and odourless and people will just ignore and stats and science you throw at them.

It's seen as similar to smoking and people like the OP aren't helping the public perception.

Thecageyone

runawaybishop wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/?#tabs-trending

^^ thread is trending. Not that you own this forum or anything, people can post whereever they want.

Lord knows why it is, when it wasn't in here to begin with until all of you started suddenly posting in it ... weird.

Also, that's a pretty childish response "I can post what I like" - how about posting something sensible/constructive at the very least? If you're following this thread so closely then you've got your answers to why vaping is NOT bad. Re-read, swallow, digest, and stop trolling. because that's all I see

Trending .... jaysis .... if there was a thread suddenly "trending" on PMS would you jump in so quick?

Time to ignore the trolls me thinks, [you only have to check some poster's previous posts ... none of them seem to have ever posted in this area, or anything vape related, just general jumping on anything slightly controversial] and get back to actual vape discussions on here. You can get this nonsense any time on the likes of youtube

On the not smelling bad side of it ... yeah, concentrate on that aspect ... when some of us have already said we go to the smoking area, where it reeks of cancer, but never mind, moan away ... vaper and non vapers, some people are just .... moaners full stop.

mewso

I don't see trolling here but I do see uncivil behaviour. Thecageyone if you can't be civil please just don't bother posting. If you want to change peoples' minds about something a good way is to welcome them and offer to answer any questions they might have rather than accusing them of having alterior motives for posting in a thread in a forum where they are perfectly entitled to do so.

Thecageyone

mewso wrote: »

I don't see trolling here but I do see uncivil behaviour. Thecageyone if you can't be civil please just don't bother posting. If you want to change peoples' minds about something a good way is to welcome them and offer to answer any questions they might have rather than accusing them of having alterior motives for posting in a thread in a forum where they are perfectly entitled to do so.

Trolling is trying to get a rise out of people in a very specific area. You only have to check their previous posts. When it's people who have never visited that area or entered any discussion on the subject in the past. But ... let them at it, precisely what they want. this place is pretty dead lately anyway.

There is nothing uncivil about any of my posts. Just truth. You being a mod doesn't change that, you're just giving them what they came for now. good luck.

mewso

Thecageyone wrote: »

There is nothing uncivil about any of my posts. Just truth. You being a mod doesn't change that, you're just giving them what they came for now. good luck.

You are the one giving them what they want if you really think they are all trolls. If all they want is a rise then you are the only one I can see here who has risen. Now since you decided to argue with me I'm probably supposed to ban you or whatever but I'm tired so lets just leave it at that please.

dee_mc

I vape but I wouldn't do so in a pub, cafe or restaurant. Certainly not in the cinema.
I walked by a guy on the street the other day just as he was exhaling and I could actually taste that it was a cola flavour e-cig liquid - ok it probably wasn't harmful 'second hand' but it was unpleasant and a bit weird and with that in mind I'd be conscious of not inflicting my vape on anyone else.
It's very simple to just pop out to a smoking area or a bathroom or whatever if you really need a hit!

nuttyboy79

Discretion is key in all of this. Big clouds in a cinema/restaurant nope little clouds/double inhales yup if I'm asked to stop no problem away I go outside (not to the smoking area though it smells there).

As for harm from nicotine in 2nd hand vape there's nicotine in tomatoes it occurs in some vegetables.



http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308053290619

JackieChang

Parachutes wrote: »

I was thrown out of the pictures mid film the weekend without a refund.

I am delighted you were thrown out. I would have thrown you out too if I was working there. If I was a customer, I would have reported you. And I'm a vaper! How could you possibly think vaping in the cinema is OK?

Also, people who say there is no smell from vaping are liars. Vaping often stinks. I couldn't even stealth vape one tobacco flavour I had in work as people complained that the office smelled like mouldy socks. And whenever I go into a vape shop, there's a disgusting sickly sweet vape smell that I can't stand. I definitely wouldn't want any of that in a restaurant or cinema. And even if it doesn't smell, a cloud floating around the place is distracting and annoying.

I have now switched to unflavoured vape juice, and if I ever vape inside it is very very discreet.

Anyway, I found my new favourite vape slang on Reddit recently - "Vapehole".

Zelda247

JackieChang wrote: »

I am delighted you were thrown out. I would have thrown you out too if I was working there. If I was a customer, I would have reported you. And I'm a vaper! How could you possibly think vaping in the cinema is OK?

Also, people who say there is no smell from vaping are liars. Vaping often stinks. I couldn't even stealth vape one tobacco flavour I had in work as people complained that the office smelled like mouldy socks. And whenever I go into a vape shop, there's a disgusting sickly sweet vape smell that I can't stand. I definitely wouldn't want any of that in a restaurant or cinema. And even if it doesn't smell, a cloud floating around the place is distracting and annoying.

I have now switched to unflavoured vape juice, and if I ever vape inside it is very very discreet.

Anyway, I found my new favourite vape slang on Reddit recently - "Vapehole".

I disagree. My husband uses Liquia Tobacco flavour and there is absolutely no smell whatsoever.

j26m

Zelda247 wrote: »

I disagree. My husband uses Liquia Tobacco flavour and there is absolutely no smell whatsoever.

Some smell, some don't.
I have one that proper stinks, others that smell nice, and some where you wouldn't even know someone was vaping nearby.

esforum

8mm wrote: »

New study proves there is no second-hand vaping:

e-cigarette aerosol contains less volatile compounds than normal exhaled breath

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/226-sp

Please stop with the "who knows what's in those yokes" type assumptions - we know what's in them and we know this saves lives.

about as neutral and independent as Nick Nayler

I personally dont vape but I have to say it doesnt bother me if others do. I am a little strange though, as an ex smoker I still actually still like the smell of people smoking whereas the biggest cigarette nazis are usually former smokers.

I can understand people not liking it around food especially when eating and the cinema one would annoy me if it was leaving clouds but then compared to whatn some asshats do during a movie, its a minor issue

(apologies for not being a regular but then how does one become a regular without a first visit??)

JustShon

Why exactly is it such a hassle to pop outside to vape?

I don't vape in restaurants, cinemas, shopping centres or anywhere but my home or outside.

It just doesn't bother me to nip outside. What's the issue with it?

Zelda247

I don't vape at all but if someone is sitting beside you vaping and there is no smell whatsoever what is the harm in it, its no more than the steam coming from a pot or kettle, why would it bother anyone.

actuallylike

Zelda247 wrote: »

I don't vape at all but if someone is sitting beside you vaping and there is no smell whatsoever what is the harm in it, its no more than the steam coming from a pot or kettle, why would it bother anyone.

It's annoying, just like if someone (to use your example), brought a pot or a kettle into a pub or cinema and sat beside you and had steam (albeit harmless steam) blowing in your face, it would be rude.

I'd love if someone brought a kettle into a cinema actually!

Shinobollo

actuallylike wrote: »

It's annoying, just like if someone (to use your example), brought a pot or a kettle into a pub or cinema and sat beside you and had steam (albeit harmless steam) blowing in your face, it would be rude.

I'd love if someone brought a kettle into a cinema actually!

It's great to see new posters in this forum. Especially those who understand the difference between smoke and harmless steam from a kettle ! Welcome

Grayson

j26m wrote: »

Some smell, some don't.
I have one that proper stinks, others that smell nice, and some where you wouldn't even know someone was vaping nearby.

Every juice I have smells different. Most are fruity dessert ones so they smell quite nice but the tobacco ones smell of well, tobacco.

I've started sub ohm recently but I've learned not to do it outside as much. They fun part is the clouds it produces but it's not nice for someone to walk into. I was vaping outside a pub a few weeks ago and the clouds were slowing drifting up the pavement. It's actually better to vape when there's a bit of a breeze
Even walking along the road with a friend I have to make sure to walk on their down wind side so when I exhale a big cloud of vapor doesn't hit their face.