Seaworld to stop Breeding Orcas

DEFTLEFTHAND

This is fantastic news. There's been an ongoing campaign for years to stop this practice, the current batch of Orcas in their parks will be the last.

http://http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/seaworld-to-stop-breeding-killer-whales-orcas-blackfish

Hopefully the rest of the world follows suit. I'd highly recommend watching the film documentary Blackfish to learn more about the cruel practice of keeping large marine creatures in captivity.

Atlantic Dawn

The circus's and zoos should be next.

kneemos

Free Willies.

Yay.

Duckworth_Luas

I didn't think anyone was breeding orcas or goblins after Saruman was defeated by Gandalf.

syklops

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

This is fantastic news. There's been an ongoing campaign for years to stop this practice, the current batch of Orcas in their parks will be the last.

http://http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/seaworld-to-stop-breeding-killer-whales-orcas-blackfish

Hopefully the rest of the world follows suit. I'd highly recommend watching the film documentary Blackfish to learn more about the cruel practice of keeping large marine creatures in captivity.

Thats stopping breeding. Where will they get their attractions now? Go back to kidnapping them from the sea?

Iwasfrozen

Excuse my ignorance on the subject but isn't not breeding a possibly endangered species a bad thing?

DEFTLEFTHAND

syklops wrote: »

Thats stopping breeding. Where will they get their attractions now? Go back to kidnapping them from the sea?

I presume by stopping their breeding programme that they'll also stop the taking them from the wild. To prevent generational inbreeding they engaged in this practice until recently.

I'd imagine now that the entire Sealand Orca wing will be retired for good.

kneemos

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance on the subject but isn't not breeding a possibly endangered species a bad thing?

Devil the bit.Begob and begorrah.

Turtyturd

No matter your stance on Seaworld I'd do some reading about the narrative the people behind Blackfish took before praising it.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance on the subject but isn't not breeding a possibly endangered species a bad thing?

They're not endangered in the wild. The oceans Apex predator and have an estimated global population of 50,000.

kneemos

Turtyturd wrote: »

No matter your stance on Seaworld I'd do some reading about the narrative the people behind Blackfish took before praising it.

You actually want people to do that or will you reveal it here?

Turtyturd

kneemos wrote: »

You actually want people to do that or will you reveal it here?

Start a thread asking the question and I'll tell you there.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Turtyturd wrote: »

No matter your stance on Seaworld I'd do some reading about the narrative the people behind Blackfish took before praising it.

I'd be on the polar opposite of some of their political beliefs, but this is something that I and hardcore leftists have common ground in.

Iwasfrozen

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They're not endangered in the wild. The oceans Apex predator and have an estimated global population of 50,000.

What has being an apex predator have to do with anything?

Orcas aren't endangered but they face several threats I don't see how closing down a breeding program is a good thing.

kneemos

Turtyturd wrote: »

Start a thread asking the question and I'll tell you there.

Where's me Shillelagh?

SEPT 23 1989

That's a great documentary

Boom_Bap

One of the more horrible images of seaworld is that the carpark is wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger than the area the orca's are kept.

ted1

About freaking time , but part of me wonders what happens when people stop seen these lovable mammals.will people forget about them and become less concerned about their survival. Penguins are cute and loveable we seen them I films and cartoons etc, but how are about the birds we don't see ?

Iwasfrozen

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

What has being an apex predator have to do with anything?

Orcas aren't endangered but they face several threats I don't see how closing down a breeding program is a good thing.

Why on earth breed an animal that's not endangered, because it faces "threats"? My cat faces threats when she's outside, I'm not about to advocate breeding cats because of threats. You know they don't breed for release, right?

Dirty Dingus McGee

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I presume by stopping their breeding programme that they'll also stop the taking them from the wild. To prevent generational inbreeding they engaged in this practice until recently.

I'd imagine now that the entire Sealand Orca wing will be retired for good.

It won't really worth going to it without Shamu.

R P McMurphy

ted1 wrote: »

About freaking time , but part of me wonders what happens when people stop seen these lovable mammals.will people forget about them and become less concerned about their survival. Penguins are cute and loveable we seen them I films and cartoons etc, but how are about the birds we don't see ?

Penguins definitely have great PR. In reality they are complete deviants. Not so cute and loveable when engaging in casual necrophilia

kneemos

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Penguins definitely have great PR. In reality they are complete deviants. Not so cute and loveable when engaging in casual necrophilia

Noooooo.Not the Penguin?

Montgolfier

Heard that guy speaking out against seaworld on newstalk Sean Moncrieff very interesting. They should be shut down

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

No matter your stance on Seaworld I'd do some reading about the narrative the people behind Blackfish took before praising it.

Oh yeah, it was propaganda. A very easy one to sell, because their argument is solid, but definitely not as honest and impartial as it's sold to be.

ted1

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Penguins definitely have great PR. In reality they are complete deviants. Not so cute and loveable when engaging in casual necrophilia

Well they mate fir life and remain in monogamist relationship , could be force of habit

kneemos

Dolphins apparently are beligerant bitey basterds .

R P McMurphy

ted1 wrote: »

Well they mate fir life and remain in monogamist relationship , could be force of habit

A likely excuse ... No I am thinking of the adelie penguin, notorious for sexual depravity, necrophilia, rape of both genders and children. Far from happy feet

DEFTLEFTHAND

kneemos wrote: »

Dolphins apparently are beligerant bitey basterds .

When aresholes from Clare pour cheap cider down their blowholes they tend to get a bit belligerent.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Dolphins apparently are beligerant bitey basterds .

And orcas too, this cuddly nice image has to end, they have lovely family pods and all but they're basically hunting and killing machines. And, they're dolphins.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Deleted User wrote: »

And orcas too, this cuddly nice image has to end, they have lovely family pods and all but they're basically hunting and killing machines. And, they're dolphins.

Yes the largest of the Dolphin species. They get the name Killer Whale because that's what they do in the wild. They hunt and kill Baleen whale species. They operate in pods when attacking larger animals. Herring however are their day to day foodstuff.

They're also known to hunt Great White Sharks. There's a great documentary out there about how they do this off the coast of South Africa each year. They play games with them, it's amazing to watch, the Orca's intelligence far exceeds that of the shark.

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yes the largest of the Dolphin species. They get the name Killer Whale because that's what they do in the wild. They hunt and kill Baleen whale species. They operate in pods when attacking larger animals. Herring however are their day to day foodstuff.

They're also known to hunt Great White Sharks. There's a great documentary out there about how they do this off the coast of South Africa each year. They play games with them, it's amazing to watch, the Orca's intelligence far exceeds that of the shark.

I thought the great white shark hunting documentary was set in a study done at the Farralone Islands off the coast of California, where transient orca pods are common and the great whites have a breeding ground? Though there's likely more than one documentary. High five, orca buddy!

KERSPLAT!

Can ye link (legal ones!!) some of these documentaries? Have seen Blackfish but I'd be interested in the others too

mahoganygas

I worked there, in San Diego.

It reminded me of a cult.

Other employees get angry when you start ask difficult questions or bring up Blackfish.

The staff are brainwashed.

beach_walker

Orcas look very cool. I like their style.

KERSPLAT!

They look a little orcaward to me

Tilikum

Maybe now they'll finally release Tilikum.

endacl

Tilikum wrote: »

Maybe now they'll finally release Tilikum.

Well, you do have Internet access. That's a start. How do you type?

maudgonner

endacl wrote: »

Well, you do have Internet access. That's a start. How do you type?

I can't believe Kersplat has already made the Orcawardly gag - it would have been so perfect here. Damn you! :mad:

Tilikum

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yes the largest of the Dolphin species. They get the name Killer Whale because that's what they do in the wild. They hunt and kill Baleen whale species. They operate in pods when attacking larger animals. Herring however are their day to day foodstuff.

They're also known to hunt Great White Sharks. There's a great documentary out there about how they do this off the coast of South Africa each year. They play games with them, it's amazing to watch, the Orca's intelligence far exceeds that of the shark.

There's many different types of Orca found in our oceans, each hunt different prey.

fin12

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

This is fantastic news. There's been an ongoing campaign for years to stop this practice, the current batch of Orcas in their parks will be the last.

http://http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/seaworld-to-stop-breeding-killer-whales-orcas-blackfish

Hopefully the rest of the world follows suit. I'd highly recommend watching the film documentary Blackfish to learn more about the cruel practice of keeping large marine creatures in captivity.

This is brilliant news. hopefully now, keeping elephants, polar bears, dolphins will now follow.

endacl

maudgonner wrote: »

I can't believe Kersplat has already made the Orcawardly gag - it would have been so perfect here. Damn you! :mad:

That does Orcasionally happen...

AudreyHepburn

It's about time.....these beautiful creatures didn't evolve for the purpose of our entertainment.

I've no problem with Zoos and Aquariums per se, they can be very educational and are extremely important in the protection of endangered species.

But the first duty of any zoo or aquarium must be to ensure that the animals are treated humanly. And sadly that wasn't the case here.

kneemos

28 around the world apparently owned by Seaworld. Some in Europe as well.

Galwayguy35

Saw a programme about how the whales have learned that if they turn a shark on it's back it's not able to move and it's shark snacks for everyone.

Smart animals, no wonder they decide to kill off the odd stupid human who wants to make them do tricks in a pool.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Tilikum wrote: »

Maybe now they'll finally release Tilikum.

Tilikum is terminally ill, he has an incurable lung problem. He's 33 years of age now, old for an Orca in captivity.

What makes it tragic is that in the wild they have the same average lifespan as a human man.

ScumLord

ted1 wrote: »

About freaking time , but part of me wonders what happens when people stop seen these lovable mammals.will people forget about them and become less concerned about their survival. Penguins are cute and loveable we seen them I films and cartoons etc,

Really? You're going to use cartoons to tell you about Penguin behaviour?

fin12 wrote: »

This is brilliant news. hopefully now, keeping elephants, polar bears, dolphins will now follow.

And dont forget pedigree dogs and cats. Maybe once we've stopped throwing stones at everyone else, people will look at their own contributions to breeding unbeneficial mutations into dogs because they like the look of it, and stop thinking that an hours exercise is enough for something like a husky.

KERSPLAT!

ScumLord wrote: »

Really? You're going to use cartoons to tell you about Penguin behaviour?

Eh, yeah.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Penguins are also Orca food.

Tilikum

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Tilikum is terminally ill, he has an incurable lung problem. He's 33 years of age now, old for an Orca in captivity.

What makes it tragic is that in the wild they have the same average lifespan as a human man.

No need to explain to me, look at my username.

Its about time this inhumane practice has come to an end. It is so cruel to have a massive creature in such a small pool where they go crazy from boredom and depression. They have even killed humans due to going crazy, there is no recorded Orca attack in the wild. Anyone who has supported this evil organization should be ashamed of themselves.

About this its coming to an end, its just a pity so many beautiful creatures had to suffer so a corporate company could make money.

Discodog

The tide is changing albeit slowly. A german circus, currently touring Ireland, has elephants & other wild animals. The good thing was that their biggest critic on Liveline was an Irish Circus owner who said that it was cruel.