Cheltenham Festival Day 2 - Wednesday 16th March

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Discussion and selections for Day 2 of the Cheltenham Festival. Ground expected to be soft( At time of posting)

13:30 · Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) (Registered As The Baring Bingham Novices' Hurdle) (Class 1) (4YO plus) 2m 5f

14:10 · RSA Chase (Grade 1 Novices' Chase) (Class 1) (5YO plus) 3m ½f

14:50 · Coral Cup (Grade 3 Handicap Hurdle) (Class 1) (4YO plus) 2m 5f

15:30 · Betway Queen Mother Champion Chase (Grade 1) (Class 1) (5YO plus) 2m

16:10 · Glenfarclas Chase (Cross Country Chase) (Class 2) (5YO plus) 3m 6f

16:50 · Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) (Class 1) (4YO only) 2m ½f

17:30 · Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Grade 1 Standard Open NH Flat Race) (Class 1) (4YO to 6YO) 2m ½f

mountgomery burns

Roll on tomorrow.

Shane732

Any specials for un de sceaux?

unplayable

2 winners today only so happy to see this thread. can SS do it and upset the odds?

Shane732

unplayable wrote: »

2 winners today only so happy to see this thread. can SS do it and upset the odds?

I hope he doesn't! Last leg of Douvan, Annie Power, Vroum Vroum is waiting on Un De Sceaux

sdoc13

On YorkhilL EW at 8s and Waiting on More of that for nice payout. Doubled with VVM and have it backed singly at 4s.
Probably Back Baltazar king ew and Need to decide on UDS. If I get evs or better will be temped to lump.

Not much else striking me yet

sting60

After a huge first day these are my fancies for day two.
Yorkhill cannot have the ground quick enough and will win.
NO MORE HEROES nuff said.
Politologue has the form in the book as I see it big chance.
Un De Sceaux by a country mile.Sprinter Sacre has no chance not just based on his last run which would not give a hope in hell of winning this but a horse with heart issues will be found out big time when the going gets tough.
Josie's Orders will bounce of the unwatered ground.
Paddy's Runner will also bounce of the ground and has the finishing kick to win.
Ballyandy is a very progressive horse who will love fast ground.I don't see an Irish superstar unless Agusta Kate can defy tradition (According on dam side) should like the fast ground.

posturingpat

I'm a massive Un De Sceaux fan and have a fair lump of my bank set aside for him and Thistlecrack but i'm getting slightly concerned about the ground, he acts on good for sure but i think it might narrow the gap between him and a few of the others, still expect him to win but not quite as unreasonably confident as i was.

dickenson famous5

A toi Phil got a chance in first , avenir de via in bumper ,un di seux will win champion chase if clear round

fuzzydunlop85

Bar one money back on all fallers at Cheltenham just a heads up for uds backers. Not sure if this is a free bet or cash back anyone able to confirm this? Usually their 'cash backs' are actual cash.

HarshOstrich

Yorkhill will win , his tolworth form is the best form on offer and the ground tomoro is what he wants.
I have sprinter sacre in double with altior @40/1 so I have to side with him, hoping Mullins drops another bombshell and runs him in goldcup ha.
Rock the kasbah in coral cup and Balthazar king in cross country

Beastermc

fuzzydunlop85 wrote:

Bar one money back on all fallers at Cheltenham just a heads up for uds backers. Not sure if this is a free bet or cash back anyone able to confirm this? Usually their 'cash backs' are actual cash.

It's actual cash back. Max 25 quid though. Been handing it back over the counter all day!

fuzzydunlop85

Beastermc wrote: »

It's actual cash back. Max 25 quid though. Been handing it back over the counter all day!

Cheers the staff in my local bar one seriously don't give a **** so shouldn't have any trouble getting a few separate bets on, Surely if UDS makes it round it wins ?

Gavin "shels"

1:30 - Yorkhill
2:10 - More of That
2:50 - Arbie De Vie
3:30 - UDS
4:10 - Josies Orders
4:50 - Jaleo
5:30 - Augusta Kane

Beastermc

fuzzydunlop85 wrote:

Cheers the staff in my local bar one seriously don't give a **** so shouldn't have any trouble getting a few separate bets on, Surely if UDS makes it round it wins ?

Ah yeah, fellas could have been doing that today I would have been none the wiser, we've enough to be worrying about as it is! He should do anyway, himself and yanworth hopefully do the business, thinking about doing the treble wit thistlecrack but there's something in the back of my mind telling me to just go with the double.

posturingpat

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Bar one money back on all fallers at Cheltenham just a heads up for uds backers. Not sure if this is a free bet or cash back anyone able to confirm this? Usually their 'cash backs' are actual cash.

Enquired today. It is cash. Unfortunately it's 25 max. So get onto the friends and neighbours to place a few

0ph0rce0

For me there is no beating yanworth with blow job geraghty.

1:30 - Yanworth
2:10 - Vyta Du Roc
2:50 - Arbre De Vie - e/w (maybe a little e/w on call the cops too)
3:30 - Sprintre Sacre all the way (I Have Backed Un Des Sceaux )
4:10 - Uncle Junior - e/w
4:50 - Fixe Le Kap
5:30 - Avenir Dune Vie

posturingpat

Uncle Junior absolutely flying at home apparently. Wouldn't believe he was in his teens.

mailburner

confidence here in yorkhill has me worried

ipitydafool

The money coming for York hill is great as it means the topping up on Yanworth can continue. He pissed all over charbel earlier in season and he ran a v respectable fifth in supreme today. Won over C+D last time and was running a stormer in champion bumper on same ground he will face tomorrow when got the door shut on him.

JP Liz V1

Bello Conti, Shaneshill, Blazer and Felix Yonger e/w

beertons

13.30 Yorkhill@2/1
14.10 Seeyouatmidnight@12/1
14.50 Rock The Kasbah@12/1
15.30 Sprinter Sacre@11/2
16.10 Quantiteeasing@15/2
16.50 Missy tata@12/1

Lucky 63 ew, 10 cents per line.

sdoc13

sdoc13 wrote: »

On YorkhilL EW at 8s and Waiting on More of that for nice payout. Doubled with VVM and have it backed singly at 4s.
Probably Back Baltazar king ew and Need to decide on UDS. If I get evs or better will be temped to lump.

Not much else striking me yet

Have backed Baltazar King with Hills at 13/2 money back as a free bet up to €25 if second

Have also backed Long House Hall in the coral and Missy Tata in the fred winter.

gazza1

1.30 Yanworth
2.10 more of that
2.50 politologue
3.30 UDS
4.10 Josies Orders
4.50 messire des obeaux ew
5.30 new to this town ew

GL2A

Francie Barrett

Going officially changed to Good to Soft (good in places).

mossym

sdoc13 wrote: »

Have also backed Long House Hall in the coral a

have a small e/w on this myself

mailburner

yanworth
more of that
politologue/call the cops
uds
balthazar king (maybe a big ask after the injury but its his course)

hope I'm not down and depending on the last two for some help

magherakid

Betfair Sportsbook enhanced double Yanworth & Barcelona 9/4 £100 max on that

Mad_Dave

So far gone with a 2pt Yanworth/UDS double @3.5/1 and a 1pt Yorkhill win @2/1.

Francie Barrett

Didn't O'Leary's outfit say several times that they would not have any horses in the bumper this year? Yet here we are the day before the race with Avenir D'une Vie declared for tomorrow. Isn't it also telling that Patrick Mullins (who usually gets first dibs on which bumper horse to ride) has picked this one.

I reckon this could be a bit of a plot. Have watched the replays of previous races again and reckon this definitely stays coming up the hill, but whether it will be quick enough, I don't know. Worth taking a chance at 10/1.

skippymac6

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Didn't O'Leary's outfit say several times that they would not have any horses in the bumper this year? Yet here we are the day before the race with Avenir D'une Vie declared for tomorrow. Isn't it also telling that Patrick Mullins (who usually gets first dibs on which bumper horse to ride) has picked this one.

I reckon this could be a bit of a plot. Have watched the replays of previous races again and reckon this definitely stays coming up the hill, but whether it will be quick enough, I don't know. Worth taking a chance at 10/1.

Go back and watch the turn of foot he showed when leaving Delagate for dead in his second race and then again last time out against Meade's horse. Of course they wouldn't be the strongest of oppositions but he couldn't have been more impressive.

The ground at Gowran when he was beaten by New To This Town was pretty atrocious and I'm fairly sure he was scoped dirty after that one anyway. I'm very confident that he'll go well and he'll be my biggest ew bet until Cause of Causes in the Kim Muir

BorneTobyWilde

My picks . All EW

YALA ENKI 50-1 1.30

VYTA DU ROC 10-1 2.10

VOLNAY DE THAIX 33-1 2.50 :

SPECIAL TIARA 16-1 3.30

BLESS THE WINGS 33-1 4.10

CHIC NAME 50-1 4.50

COEUR BLIMEY 14-1 5.30

Shanotheslayer

Yansworth Large.
Yorkhill Medium (To half cover)
UDS Large


Yansworth
UDS
Double.

Reverse Forecast
Yans/York

Reverse Forecast
UDS/Sprinter

Wicklow Brave

Avenir D'une Vie is 6, reason Gigginstown are running him I'd say. Anyone know why Townend is on Augusta Kate? Thought that was a weird one.

Anyway my bets are:

1:30 Yanworth.
Love Yorkhill and all, and he'll be a savage chaser in time but jesus he should not be so close in price to Yanworth, a near ready made Champion Hurdler imvhavho.

2:10 More Of That.
MOT will absolutely destroy this field if he wants. 10 lengths plus if Barry wants to extend him. Beast of a horse. Vyta du Roc to folow him home. If NMH wins I am an awful judge and I'm packing the game in lol.

2:50 Politologue, Blood Cotil, Arbre de Vie.
Enjoy this minefield of a race but my selections are fairly muggy tbph. Mullins 2 are reasonably well treated and Nicholls yoke I'm hoping is a progressive sort, nice hoss.

3:30 Sprinter Sacre, God's Own ew
UDS way too short. Ground not in his favour at all. Can't have SDG or DB. I've heard ST isn't going to challenge UDS for the lead, strange one. I'm not that confident on SS but he's the play. GO to place. Vautour would win this by a fence fwiw. Sigh.

4:10 Josies Orders.
4:50 Diego du Charmil.
5:30 Compadre ew.

Gringo180

Sgt Reckless is fairly well treated on his old hurdles form and will run a big race I think. Will love the drying ground, really think hes been laid out for this. 33/1 well worth an each way bet.

dickenson famous5

Backed avenir de use via at 14 two weeks ago think it will go close as skippy mac says fingers crossed

I think its JP McManusDay today.
Yanworth
More of That
Josies Orders
Castello Sforza


Have also backed Vigil ew antepost....hope he runs better than Silver Concorde yesterday.
Paddys Runner and Our Thomas in the 4:50 ew


Bet365 are paying 5 PLACES in 4:50

HarshOstrich

Not that I fancy just Cameron in champion chase but he won't finish last
175/1 ha
Wasn't beaten far by un de sceaux at punchestown last year.
If he jumps well I expect him in the first 5

Shemale

Slight concerns over the ground for UDS but he has won on it, only worried about SS having a run similar to his Shloer(??) chase run or better. The quickening ground will be straight into Balthazars hands

Yanworth

More Of That

Diamond King (being drawn to Beast Of Burden at big price too)

Un De Sceaux

Balthazar King

Kazakh Noir, want to have another look at Campeador

Avenir Dune Vie

Gregk961

Had a long post about Beast of Burden back over hurdles in the coral cup but it decided to delete itself but basically I'm hoping he gets around without bursting again and I'll take 33/1 on that chance.

I said

Cooper on C4 saying he rides Don Cossack in the gold cup unfortunately that's Davy Russell s and the horses best chance of winning it gone imo.

RobertKK

13:30 · Yorkhill *
14:10 · More of That *
14:50 · Diamond King #
15:30 · Un de Sceaux *
16:10 · Josies Order *
16:50 · Jaleo #
17:30 · Avenir Dune Vie #

Horses with a * are in a lucky 15.
Horses with a # are in a patent, and are horses least confident about.
Just something small for a bit more interest in all the races.

carq

sting60 wrote: »

After a huge first day these are my fancies for day two.
Yorkhill cannot have the ground quick enough and will win.
NO MORE HEROES nuff said.
Politologue has the form in the book as I see it big chance.
Un De Sceaux by a country mile.Sprinter Sacre has no chance not just based on his last run which would not give a hope in hell of winning this but a horse with heart issues will be found out big time when the going gets tough.
Josie's Orders will bounce of the unwatered ground.
Paddy's Runner will also bounce of the ground and has the finishing kick to win.
Ballyandy is a very progressive horse who will love fast ground.I don't see an Irish superstar unless Agusta Kate can defy tradition (According on dam side) should like the fast ground.

What were your Day 1 fancies?

posturingpat

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

Avenir D'une Vie is 6, reason Gigginstown are running him I'd say. Anyone know why Townend is on Augusta Kate? Thought that was a weird one.

Anyway my bets are:

1:30 Yanworth.
Love Yorkhill and all, and he'll be a savage chaser in time but jesus he should not be so close in price to Yanworth, a near ready made Champion Hurdler imvhavho.

2:10 More Of That.
MOT will absolutely destroy this field if he wants. 10 lengths plus if Barry wants to extend him. Beast of a horse. Vyta du Roc to folow him home. If NMH wins I am an awful judge and I'm packing the game in lol.

2:50 Politologue, Blood Cotil, Arbre de Vie.
Enjoy this minefield of a race but my selections are fairly muggy tbph. Mullins 2 are reasonably well treated and Nicholls yoke I'm hoping is a progressive sort, nice hoss.

3:30 Sprinter Sacre, God's Own ew
UDS way too short. Ground not in his favour at all. Can't have SDG or DB. I've heard ST isn't going to challenge UDS for the lead, strange one. I'm not that confident on SS but he's the play. GO to place. Vautour would win this by a fence fwiw. Sigh.

4:10 Josies Orders.
4:50 Diego du Charmil.
5:30 Compadre ew.

No More heroes for the win,his jumping's unbelievable. Hopefully sit in behind the leaders and take it up with a circuit to go and jump them silly.

posturingpat

My Festival revolves around Un De Sceaux,Thistlecrack and to a lesser extent No More Heroes and Don Cossack. Today could have me well up or well down. Getting a bit nervous,but that's all part of the fun.

Wicklow Brave

posturingpat wrote: »

No More heroes for the win,his jumping's unbelievable. Hopefully sit in behind the leaders and take it up with a circuit to go and jump them silly.

On this ground he won't get within a fence of MOT. It will be some race. Today is actually a better day then Yesterday imo. It's nearly always the Tuesday that's the best day of the Festival but today is a super card.

dickenson famous5

Diego du char mil will go close in Fred winter my opinion

Johner

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

Avenir D'une Vie is 6, reason Gigginstown are running him I'd say. Anyone know why Townend is on Augusta Kate? Thought that was a weird one.

Patrick wouldn't be able to do that weight.

If Willie had his way I've no doubt Augusta Kate wouldn't be running in this race, she's definitely opposable today.

zpehtsfd

Lets keep the ball rolling today with a BarryG/JP Trixie:

Yanworth
More of That
Blazer

Good Luck All!!!!

posturingpat

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

On this ground he won't get within a fence of MOT. It will be some race. Today is actually a better day then Yesterday imo. It's nearly always the Tuesday that's the best day of the Festival but today is a super card.

Yeah i'm more excited about today than Yesterday. No More heroes should love the ground being by presenting and doesn't raise his knee like a horse that needs soft to my eyes,i adore him and if More of that beats him by more than 2 or 3 lengths i'll be in utter shock, he could beat him but anything more than a hard earned few lengths and i'll be very shocked, we'll find out soon enough.

icanmunch

I have a triple on yanworth, more of that and UDS. also have uncle junior e/w. good luck everyone