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25 possibly Irish/British people kicked off a flight

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Xcellor wrote: »
    Wonder if alcohol was involved. Was quite early in the morning tho.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/25-irish-passengers-thrown-off-flight-after-disorderly-behaviour-34520405.html

    Personally think people involved in this type of behaviour should receive some form of punishment according to article

    "Officers escorted them from the aircraft to landside where they dispersed."

    Free to disrupt another plane later on.
    Misleading thread title and headline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Misleading thread title and headline.

    "Some of the 25 passengers allegedly became abusive towards staff.

    Police were called to intervene when the pilot refused to take off with the troublesome passengers on board."

    How would you phrase it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Well were they Irish or not
    Believed to be ? Surely they had passports


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    'Some are believed to be Irish'. Believed and some.

    Still scum though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    14 year old lad in there with them as well.
    Their flight got delayed for 3 hours so they were Definetely sipping the bad decision juice.

    Probably a handful of the full time mad bastards got too drunk so they all left.
    How drunk do you have to be, to be kicked off a plane.
    I always go for pints before a flight and bring whiskey or whatever onto the flight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    14 year old lad in there with them as well.
    Their flight got delayed for 3 hours so they were Definetely sipping the bad decision juice.

    Probably a handful of the full time mad bastards got too drunk so they all left.
    How drunk do you have to be, to be kicked off a plane.
    I always go for pints before a flight and bring whiskey or whatever onto the flight.

    I would have a couple of pints too but to be so drunk that you cause this type of problem begs the question should they even have been allowed on the plane in the first place?

    Can airlines not bring in a "Passengers maybe subjected to breathalyzer".

    If you are over a certain limit you aren't allowed on the plane. I'm not talking "drink drive limits" but a sensible medium. Safety should be the primary concern of airlines and letting drunk yobs on planes is not safe.

    They would stop you getting into a nightclub why would airlines let you into a small enclosed space where you can't be "kicked off" for hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,032 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    "Irish"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    It's a british package holiday operator so it's most likely Irish/British.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Xcellor wrote: »
    I would have a couple of pints too but to be so drunk that you cause this type of problem begs the question should they even have been allowed on the plane in the first place?

    Can airlines not bring in a "Passengers maybe subjected to breathalyzer".

    If you are over a certain limit you aren't allowed on the plane. I'm not talking "drink drive limits" but a sensible medium. Safety should be the primary concern of airlines and letting drunk yobs on planes is not safe.

    They would stop you getting into a nightclub why would airlines let you into a small enclosed space where you can't be "kicked off" for hours.

    It does make you wonder.

    As an auld fecker, I do have a view. There seems a lot of people "just doing their jobs" - no more, no less.
    " I'm here to check the boarding passes - not drunks"
    "I'm checking for terrorists - not drunks"

    Of course I have loads of sources for this view.

    BTW I have a couple of pints before I get on one of those death tubes planes as well. Not drunk, just nicely mellow and relaxed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    It does make you wonder.

    As an auld fecker, I do have a view. There seems a lot of people "just doing their jobs" - no more, no less.
    " I'm here to check the boarding passes - not drunks"
    "I'm checking for terrorists - not drunks"

    Of course I have loads of sources for this view.

    BTW I have a couple of pints before I get on one of those death tubes planes as well. Not drunk, just nicely mellow and relaxed.

    :confused::confused:

    So what do you do everytime you get out of a car after a successfull journey ?? - drop to the ground in tearful joy that you escaped certain death in a machine 10000s of times more likely to kill you then a "death tube" ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    "Irish"

    Seeing as you are probably too sensible to attract the ire for translating that, I will take it a little further. These will be mostly British passport holders of an Irish extraction. There will also be a third ethnicity involved.

    Cue the apologists coming on to say lots of Irish people have a problem with drink while conveniently ignoring that there were never 25 of them thrown off a morning flight together despite vastly outnumbering this 'ethnic' group. Then the follow up: "there are a few bad apples but whataboutery, yada, yada, yada......."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    :confused::confused:

    So what do you do everytime you get out of a car after a successfull journey ?? - drop to the ground in tearful joy that you escaped certain death in a machine 10000s of times more likely to kill you then a "death tube" ??

    I'm perfectly, if irrationally happy in a car, bike, bus, train, boat or ship.

    Many thanks:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    Seeing as you are probably too sensible to attract the ire for translating that, I will take it a little further. These will be mostly British passport holders of an Irish extraction. There will also be a third ethnicity involved.

    Cue the apologists coming on to say lots of Irish people have a problem with drink while conveniently ignoring that there were never 25 of them thrown off a morning flight together despite vastly outnumbering this 'ethnic' group. Then the follow up: "there are a few bad apples but whataboutery, yada, yada, yada......."

    Are you on the same thread as the rest of us, or are you just continuing it by yourself there? O.o What 'ethnic' group? What, in short, are you on about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    I'm perfectly, if irrationally happy in a car, bike, bus, train, boat or ship.

    Many thanks:cool:
    http://www.amazon.com/Cockpit-Confidential-Everything-Questions-Reflections/dp/1402280912

    :)


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd imagine these passengers are a part of our ' ethnic ' minority.
    The ones that are English but speak with ' irish' accents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna



    Fupp that. I've flown enough in jets, turbo props and helicopters.

    I'm happy with my prejudices:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I'd imagine these passengers are a part of our ' ethnic ' minority.
    The ones that are English but speak with ' irish' accents.

    Not even being snarky here, I'm honestly bewildered. Do you mean NI? Or English people who were born in/emigrated from Ireland/second gen Irish?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Samaris wrote: »
    Not even being snarky here, I'm honestly bewildered. Do you mean NI? Or English people who were born in/emigrated from Ireland/second gen Irish?

    I assumed he meant Conor McGregor fans.

    Or Irish men who work in Oz. I think drinking and fighting is compulsory amongst them.

    Bubblypop, from all of the groups in Ireland that have displayed an ability to get drunk and brawl at the drop of a hat, which one were you alluding to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Samaris wrote: »
    Not even being snarky here, I'm honestly bewildered. Do you mean NI? Or English people who were born in/emigrated from Ireland/second gen Irish?

    I believe he's alluding to Travellers ............


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I'd imagine these passengers are a part of our ' ethnic ' minority.
    The ones that are English but speak with ' irish' accents.

    ....yep, the only rowdy drinkers in the whole island.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I believe he's alluding to Travellers ............

    Sure its not Nigerian single mothers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,759 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Well all I can say is they fecked up their little holiday to Costa Rica, they will just have to make do with Costa Coffee at the airport instead. :pac::pac:

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    Samaris wrote: »
    Are you on the same thread as the rest of us, or are you just continuing it by yourself there? O.o What 'ethnic' group? What, in short, are you on about?

    I think I got the ire going alright and there's been plenty of 'whataboutery' later. It doesn't take long does it?

    And the hilarious thing is everyone knows who we are talking about but we are not allowed to say it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    I bet they're English.

    If they are actually Irish people, the names will likely be broadcast news in Ireland within 24 hours.

    Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I think I got the ire going alright and there's been plenty of 'whataboutery' later. It doesn't take long does it?

    And the hilarious thing is everyone knows who we are talking about but we are not allowed to say it.

    Go on, don't stop there. Tell us it's 'PC gone mad' while tugging yourself furiously to a 'traveller gypsy immigrant dole cheat' special on tv3.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I think I got the ire going alright and there's been plenty of 'whataboutery' later. It doesn't take long does it?

    And the hilarious thing is everyone knows who we are talking about but we are not allowed to say it.

    No no.

    The hilarious thing is you do not know the difference between "knowing" and "assuming". Of course, the assumption may prove true, or again it may be any few people from our nation of drunken fighting Irish...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    No no.

    The hilarious thing is you do not know the difference between "knowing" and "assuming". Of course, the assumption may prove true, or again it may be any few people from our nation of drunken fighting Irish...

    What assumption? I haven't said a thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    dav3 wrote: »
    Go on, don't stop there. Tell us it's 'PC gone mad' while tugging yourself furiously to a 'traveller gypsy immigrant dole cheat' special on tv3.

    Shame on you bringing ethnic minorities into this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,032 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Joe Duffy will be discussing this story at 1.45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I'd imagine these passengers are a part of our ' ethnic ' minority.
    The ones that are English but speak with ' irish' accents.


    Cream crackers anyone?

    banned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    As the platypus said to the gun toting pillowmaker, never assume anything.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    What assumption? I haven't said a thing.

    Ooooooo you are being so obtuse sure I don't know if I'm coming or going, fair play and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Tigger wrote: »
    Well were they Irish or not
    Believed to be ? Surely they had passports

    Plus why were they all in London?

    Badly written article. I wasn't sure if it was the technical problems or them louts that's caused the delay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    kjl wrote: »
    Plus why were they all in London?

    Badly written article. I wasn't sure if it was the technical problems or them louts that's caused the delay.

    Yeah, why didn't they fly to Costa Rica from Dublin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,734 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yeah, why didn't they fly to Costa Rica from Dublin?

    lack of direct flights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    lack of direct flights.

    Just checked that as well. Funny how I'm now getting banners for cheap flights to Costa Rica :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    lack of direct flights.

    I was being sarcastic..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Yeah, why didn't they fly to Costa Rica from Dublin?

    Why? is it only the thoroughbred Irish who live here then....:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I believe he's alluding to Travellers ............
    Well of course they are travellers ! They are on a Plane ! Narrow it down ,will ya ! ? !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    I wonder what kicked it off?

    Came fairly close to being "escorted" off a flight from Barcelona once (stone cold sober) when an air hostess took umbrage with me sending a text message seconds after the captain had just announced the airplane full of people wouldn't actually be going anywhere for a few hours.

    "You can't use that. The cabin doors have been closed"
    "Well love according to your colleague we ain't going anywhere so I very much doubt I'm interfering with navigation. I myself can see the airport out this window- there it is - look"

    She persisted. I sent the message anyway and about 60 second later the same pilot came back on to announce that people could "feel free to use their phones during this time"

    Close thing though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It's a funny place for people to be getting drunk on the way to, is Costa Rica. On saying that, it's a funny place for Thomson to be flying to. Is it not a kind of a hippy place to go for a holiday?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's a funny place for people to be getting drunk on the way to, is Costa Rica. On saying that, it's a funny place for Thomson to be flying to. Is it not a kind of a hippy place to go for a holiday?

    Getting drunk and fighting isn't just for squares maaaaaaaan. Remember Altamont...freaky maaaaaaaan...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I think I got the ire going alright and there's been plenty of 'whataboutery' later. It doesn't take long does it?

    And the hilarious thing is everyone knows who we are talking about but we are not allowed to say it.

    Not so much ire as genuine bemusement in my case. Why are Travellers (if that's who you were referring to) English? They are fairly traditionally known as an Irish group.

    And why would you be proud of starting this ire you're looking for by talking what appears to be bollocks? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Coat22 wrote: »
    I wonder what kicked it off?

    Came fairly close to being "escorted" off a flight from Barcelona once (stone cold sober) when an air hostess took umbrage with me sending a text message seconds after the captain had just announced the airplane full of people wouldn't actually be going anywhere for a few hours.

    "You can't use that. The cabin doors have been closed"
    "Well love according to your colleague we ain't going anywhere so I very much doubt I'm interfering with navigation. I myself can see the airport out this window- there it is - look"

    She persisted. I sent the message anyway and about 60 second later the same pilot came back on to announce that people could "feel free to use their phones during this time"

    Close thing though

    Seriously? Why not just go "oh right love, fair enough." Wait for her to disappear and resume texting. Escalating things on planes just isn't worth it. She's only doing her job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's a funny place for people to be getting drunk on the way to, is Costa Rica. On saying that, it's a funny place for Thomson to be flying to. Is it not a kind of a hippy place to go for a holiday?

    I'm told it's a stop off on the way to Jurassic Park.

    (Cue music)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 20 Refor1981


    yeah this is why I'd never cause any trouble on a plane - I want to go on holiday and can't afford to buy another ticket if I get chucked off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    Samaris wrote: »
    Not so much ire as genuine bemusement in my case. Why are Travellers (if that's who you were referring to) English? They are fairly traditionally known as an Irish group.

    And why would you be proud of starting this ire you're looking for by talking what appears to be bollocks? :confused:

    And what bollocks would that be? Everything I predicted is happening.

    I am also bemused: what does the sentence "Why are Travellers English?" mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    And what bollocks would that be? Everything I predicted is happening.

    I am also bemused: what does the sentence "Why are Travellers English?" mean?

    It's only happening because you're doing it. That's like predicting that your day is going to get worse and the police will pick on you as you kick an old lady across the street! :D

    And you said something about "are actually English but have 'Irish' accents", but it seems to be being implied you're talking about Travellers. Hence my "whut?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    Samaris wrote: »
    It's only happening because you're doing it. That's like predicting that your day is going to get worse and the police will pick on you as you kick an old lady across the street! :D

    And you said something about "are actually English but have 'Irish' accents", but it seems to be being implied you're talking about Travellers. Hence my "whut?"

    Ehhhhh... No I didn't.


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