Raw 7-3-2016

Chicago tonight so I don't expect Roman to return just yet.

Shane McMahon due to appear.

the groutch

would love it if Punk was to troll the WWE by buying a ticket for it and being visible on the hard cam.

Straight Edge Punk

the groutch wrote: »

would love it if Punk was to troll the WWE by buying a ticket for it and being visible on the hard cam.

I was just going to say something about Punk being on the show, it wouldnt surprise me if they have worked on a publicity deal between him, Vince and Dana for Wrestlemania season.

briany

You can never say never in wrestling, and it would be brilliant to see Punk on a WWE show as a conspicuous spectator, but I feel like not enough time has passed to heal the rift between the parties. Things may change depending on how Punk's UFC career, and other ventures, pan out. For now, Punk's attitude to WWE is like that towards an old ex - he's over it.

Blue_Dabadee

the groutch wrote: »

would love it if Punk was to troll the WWE by buying a ticket for it and being visible on the hard cam.

J. Marston

Well falconarrow, the guy on Reddit, has told everyone to expect another surprise tonight so you never know.

CM Punk will fight for Shane and be responsible for Vince leaving the company. Finally, Vengeance!

SlickRic

J. Marston wrote: »

Well falconarrow, the guy on Reddit, had told everyone to expect another surprise tonight so you never know.

CM Punk will fight for Shane and be responsible for Vince leaving the company. Finally, Vengeance!

I'm well over Punk at this stage, but Christ, that would be incredibly good.

JP Liz V1

J. Marston wrote: »

Well falconarrow, the guy on Reddit, has told everyone to expect another surprise tonight so you never know.

CM Punk will fight for Shane and be responsible for Vince leaving the company. Finally, Vengeance!

Too soon for Cena or Rollins surprise return or maybe time for Mama McMahon aka Linda to show up

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Too soon for Cena or Rollins surprise return or maybe time for Mama McMahon aka Linda to show up

To introduce Mick Foley as the special guest referee in the hell in a cell.

PTH2009

Loughc wrote: »

To introduce Mick Foley as the special guest referee in the hell in a cell.

Ohhhh how brilliant

Really it's not really a huge surprise

Stereomaniac

I won't get to watch this one live unfortunately because I have to get up at half 6 in the morning. I'm looking forward to seeing Y2AJ vs. The New Day though, I wonder what happens.

Why do WWE never have shows in the United Center in Chicago? Holds more than the Rosemount and I'm sure they could sell it out.

Stereomaniac

I guess the Rosemont Horizon is always used because that's just where they've gone for years?

Stereomaniac

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I guess the Rosemont Horizon is always used because that's just where they've gone for years?

United Center was built for the Bulls a good few years ago and holds nearly 10,000 more. Just always thought it was strange they never held shows there especially in a city where they always get good crowds. Higher costs maybe.

PTH2009

Ah Vince

martyos121

That Undertaker gong into Vince's theme was pure genius.

PTH2009

Shane won't beat taker as easy as those lame security guys. Thought the lon were going to come out and attack Shane

J. Marston

PTH2009 wrote: »

Shane won't beat taker as easy as those lame security guys. Thought the lon were going to come out and attack Shane

No man can handle Shane's lightning punches.

A Primal Nut

Second time Chicago got teased like that...remember Cult Of Personality and Paul Heyman?

Although Michaels trolling Montreal with Bret Hart and then Hulk Hogan music was the funniest.

Some deep lines in that segment..."my biggest creation will take out my biggest failure". Ouch

PTH2009

They should Neville a game of thrones type gimmick. I can imagine him being a nightwatchman

Vince and the McMahons don't hold back at the domestic personal insults. What are the grandkids thinking 'does grandpa hate daddy '

martyos121

Glad to see they're going with Owens vs. Zayn for Mania, he could be the next Daniel Bryan figure, the kind of guy who can get every single fan behind him.

J. Marston

Guessing that was the big surprise. Cool to see Sami on the main roster.

What's with the bloody camera cuts? When Sami was punching Owens on the ground, they changed the camera angle half a dozen times in about 3 seconds.

ricero

Yea i hope its owens v zayn at mania. Have a multi-man ladder match for us title instead

martyos121

J. Marston wrote: »

Guessing that was the big surprise. Cool to see Sami on the main roster.

What's with the bloody camera cuts? When Sami was punching Owens on the ground, they changed the camera angle half a dozen times in about 3 seconds.

Thought that was weird myself, some guy in the truck must have Parkinson's.

J. Marston

Off topic but watching on a stream and just saw an ad for Hershey's Cookie Pizza.

America, you disgust me.

martyos121

J. Marston wrote: »

Off topic but watching on a stream and just saw an ad for Hershey's Cookie Pizza.

America, you disgust me.

Goodfellas do one too. It. Is. Vile.

martyos121

Brie still getting the sympathy pops.

J. Marston

Go away, Lana.

Chain Smoker

we're really going into a wrestlemania where the main even is a match between the undertaker and Shane mcmahon...

martyos121

Chain Smoker wrote: »

we're really going into a wrestlemania where the main even is a match between the undertaker and Shane mcmahon...

Nope. It's even worse than that. The main event will be HHH vs. Reigns.

A Primal Nut

Just realised the Allstate Arena was where Shane McMahon had possibly the most famous moment of the career when he leapt onto the Big Show from a massive height at Backlash 2001 - they showed a clip of it during that summary of Shane's career.

Surprised he didn't mention it.

A Primal Nut

martyos121 wrote: »

Goodfellas do one too. It. Is. Vile.

I've had chocolate pizza in Brazil...it's pretty amazing!

martyos121

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I've had chocolate pizza in Brazil...it's pretty amazing!

Ah everything's better in Brazil, some place it is.

martyos121

Heel Jericho, welcome back you absolute legend! About time too.

A Primal Nut

It's cool to see Jericho back as a heel and I didn't think that tag team was the best use of Jericho or Styles. That said we've seen Styles vs Jericho three times so I'm still hoping for a fresh feud for both come WrestleMania.

Looper007

martyos121 wrote: »

Heel Jericho, welcome back you absolute legend! About time too.

I'm not that blown away by it myself for me Jericho has been well past his best since the Mysterio feud back In 2009 imo.

The only two matches for me worth watching at WM 32 right now is Owens vs Zayn and the triple threat Diva match.

I've seen AJ/Y2J enough already, I feel AJ deserves better maybe a match with Nakamura. This isn't Y2J of 2008, he should stick to his podcast which his best work is at these days. Lesnar ain't losing to Ambrose and Reigns is winning over HHH. Taker/Shane could be a total mess but in a good way. Everything else will be filler.

But I can't wait for Owens/Zayn and they better give them time too.

Loughc

Looper007 wrote: »

But I can't wait for Owens/Zayn and they better give them time too.

I'm genuinely worried they'll be given the pre show match.

A fairly substandard Raw this week. They're really beginning to suck the life out of the Shane Taker match already.

SlickRic

Another bunch of shíte.

Ambrose proving again that he should be in Reigns' spot against HHH at Wrestlemania.

I still have no idea why Undertaker is fighting Shane. And now they're trying to make out Shane is some sort of Austin equal. Give me a break.

Reigns continues to be off TV to build up a Wrestlemania main event. Mental. It's pathetic that this is the only way they know to try and keep him from being booed, and to try and get a pop when he comes out next. Pathetic.

You can see Lana is shíte in the ring just from the one move. Just keep her as a valet. Why must everyone fúcking wrestle?

Owens v Zayn will be (obviously) awesome.

Jericho as heel is better than being face, but I still don't want him on my TV anymore, and AJ is utterly wasted in that feud still.

RAW is just a bad show.

Lord TSC

I find it hilarious that they have so little faith in their own Mania main event, they've basically decided to book another PPV so they don't have to write a six week story around it. They're calling it a "Network Special", but treating it like a full PPV show, including letting it close the show two weeks in a row (whereas most of these specials have barely warranted more than a mid-show promo).

Whats sad is they obviously know that there's not much interest in Reigns/HHH, they can tell the crowd want Ambrose in that spot, but instead of injecting him into the main event (which, dont get me wrong, would be ridiculous at this stage cause it would be repeating history verbatim), they seem to be hoping that this match will get it all out of the crowds system. Issue will be next week, when they resume the Reigns program, the crowd will still not want to see Reigns!

Why, oh why, do they constantly fight against crowd reactions? No other TV show has a live audience telling, pleading with, them and saying "This is the guy we'll spend money to see!", and they respond "**** off, this is the guy we're pushing, whether you like him or not".

As for Shane/Taker, I'm still ok with the match, but I feel that this week, much like last week, was a misstep; rather than pushing Shane as a massive, massive underdog against the legend of the Undertaker, they seem to want to push Shane as some sort of legendary fighter himself; fearless, able to beat up 4 guys at once, and barely any trepidation about fighting The ****ing Undertaker, at Wrestlemania, INSIDE HELL IN A CELL! Its the utterly wrong direction to be going.

Upside, the undercard looks really solid; Sami/Owens, the Divas Triple Threat and AJ/Jericho will be great matches. Brock/Ambrose is on a backburner, but thats necessitated by Brock's part time schedule, and at least the Reigns issue means Ambrose doesn't just have to cut promos to thin air for 6 weeks.

So yeah, undercard looking good, but serious missteps and problems with the main events right now...

Angron

I'm genuinely surprised that Sami appeared this close to Wrestlemania, and not on the Raw after it just cause it feels like short notice, and designed to placate the audience a bit. Not that I'm complaining, I was hoping Owens would hold on to the IC title until Zayn came up to the main roster so they could feud for it :pac:

Pentecost

I think Big Show got injured on a house show over the weekend so they probably had to change their plans for Owens.

Furious-Red

Pentecost wrote: »

I think Big Show got injured on a house show over the weekend so they probably had to change their plans for Owens.

Thank god for that

Moneymaker

Y2AJ vs the New Day ruled. Could watch AJ and Kofi wrestle for hours. Post match was predictable but was well done. Jericho got a good amount of heat which surprised me. Kind of annoyed the feud is continuing but whatever, they should have a good match at Mania.

Ambrose continues to prove what we all know. Nothing more needs to be said. HHH selling the DDT like absolute death was great.

El Generico vs Kevin Steen could, and probably will happen infront of 90,000+ people. Think about that for a moment.

Lord TSC

Moneymaker wrote: »

El Generico vs Kevin Steen could, and probably will happen infront of 90,000+ people. Think about that for a moment.

Wonder if WWE will be able to get the rights to any of their pre-WWE matches; a video package showing their history together could be amazing.

beakerjoe

Zayn is scheduled for nxt Dallas so im wondering will he be on Mania, but im sure he could do both like Sasha at summerslam

Moneymaker

beakerjoe wrote: »

Zayn is scheduled for nxt Dallas so im wondering will he be on Mania, but im sure he could do both like Sasha at summerslam

Sami is expected to wrestle at Mania, according to Meltzer. Falconarrow leaked it as well I believe.

Feed me Seymour

I haven't watched Raw since end of last year when I got rid of the sports channel, but I still have the network. Just wondering, what are the chances of ambrose actually winning the belt on sat night? It would make sense for lesner to interfere and suddenly hit hhh, because then his match with ambrose is for the belt. It would certainly save face for wwe rather than reigns getting booed out of the building again in the main event.

Angron

I'd rate the chances as being somewhere between slim, and non-existent. It would be a massive shock, and I'd love it, but it's just not something I can actually see happening.

gimmick

Yup. it makes perfect sense and would probably draw a few more buys and would save them from having the loudest booes to ever close a Wrestlemania. Not a hope in hell it happens though.

spektorfive

It no going to happen but it would be great. You could have Dean against Brock as you main event for WM 32. Big Brock up as the "1 in 21-1" how he hasn't been beaten "clean" since then and how his destroyed Dean in every encounter. Build Dean as the underdog. You can still have HHH Vs. Roman. With maybe Roman losing and it leading to a heel turn. Of course Roman heel turn has become the new "cena heel turn" as the thing internet fans say to fix the company.

Moneymaker

Feed me Seymour wrote: »

I haven't watched Raw since end of last year when I got rid of the sports channel, but I still have the network. Just wondering, what are the chances of ambrose actually winning the belt on sat night? It would make sense for lesner to interfere and suddenly hit hhh, because then his match with ambrose is for the belt. It would certainly save face for wwe rather than reigns getting booed out of the building again in the main event.

Nil.