Google Car Hits Bus.

kneemos

It's hit loads of stuff I've discovered while searching for a link.Thought these things were meant to be so safe we'd all be driving them in ten years?

https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-selfdrivingcar-idUSKCN0W22DG&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwit8J-muJ7LAhUKLSYKHc9XAzIQFggqMAM&usg=AFQjCNFr2WltxT9MJeTXxGl0Ad-134acdA

KwackerJack

kneemos wrote: »

It's hit loads of stuff I've discovered while searching for a link.Thought these things were meant to be so safe we'd all be driving them in ten years?

https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-selfdrivingcar-idUSKCN0W22DG&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwit8J-muJ7LAhUKLSYKHc9XAzIQFggqMAM&usg=AFQjCNFr2WltxT9MJeTXxGl0Ad-134acdA

It's obvious it was a female programmer..............cough!

kneemos

Seems there are hundreds of cases of disengagement by the computers and handing over control to a person.Mostly software problems but also cases of potential crashes.
They want to be driving,or sitting in these things by 2020 apparently. https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/13/10759424/google-self-driving-car-accidents-driver-disengagements&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj81avvu57LAhVIbSYKHTStDd8QFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHx9qwpzqfyOtU8kF9zHbngiUf5bw

moc moc a moc

kneemos wrote: »

Thought these things were meant to be so safe we'd all be driving them in ten years?

It doesn't have to be safe, it just has to be safer than human drivers.

Overheal

kneemos wrote: »

It's hit loads of stuff I've discovered while searching for a link.Thought these things were meant to be so safe we'd all be driving them in ten years?

https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-selfdrivingcar-idUSKCN0W22DG&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwit8J-muJ7LAhUKLSYKHc9XAzIQFggqMAM&usg=AFQjCNFr2WltxT9MJeTXxGl0Ad-134acdA

your own link says 17 cases (now 18) in excess of 2 million miles of driving. Also that this accident is pretty explanatory, that the software assumed the Bus would yield the right of way which it did not, and that the software will be updated to factor less right of way to heavy vehicles.

Obviously no fatalities have occurred. The US average is 1.5 fatalities per 100 million miles of driving. There is insufficient data to determine if they are safer than human drivers yet.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/29/crash-data-for-self-driving-cars-may-not-tell-whole-story.html

kneemos

Overheal wrote: »

your own link says 17 cases (now 18) in excess of 2 million miles of driving. Also that this accident is pretty explanatory, that the software assumed the Bus would yield the right of way which it did not, and that the software will be updated to factor less right of way to heavy vehicles.

Obviously no fatalities have occurred. The US average is 1.5 fatalities per 100 million miles of driving. There is insufficient data to determine if they are safer than human drivers yet.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/29/crash-data-for-self-driving-cars-may-not-tell-whole-story.html

It'll need to be a hell of a lot safer than human drivers if it's to be trusted.
IMO they're doomed to failure as the first case of one of them driving its occupants under a bus will destroy its credibility.

Sonics2k

kneemos wrote: »

It'll need to be a hell of a lot safer than human drivers if it's to be trusted.
IMO they're doomed to failure as the first case of one of them driving its occupants under a bus will destroy its credibility.

To be fair, the cars have done some two million miles of travel and out of 17 accidents, the driver of the other vehicle has been at fault. The 18th was a minor case were it presumed the bus would yield to allow the car in front.

Buona Fortuna

Well they've still got to be safer than someone driving themselves home after a night on the lash.

kneemos

Sonics2k wrote: »

To be fair, the cars have done some two million miles of travel and out of 17 accidents, the driver of the other vehicle has been at fault. The 18th was a minor case were it presumed the bus would yield to allow the car in front.

https://youtu.be/7Y4e7wjBVes
Here's one hitting a Goat.

BattleCorp

Anybody who thinks we won't have driverless cars in the future is away with the fairies. It's going to happen. Maybe not 2020, but it will happen in my lifetime, that's for sure.

Cosmo K

Can't wait for driverless taxis!

Buona Fortuna

BattleCorp wrote: »

Anybody who thinks we won't have driverless cars in the future is away with the fairies. It's going to happen. Maybe not 2020, but it will happen in my lifetime, that's for sure.

Do you have some sort of divine promise?

You are probably right about driverless cars coming eventually but ....

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

https://youtu.be/7Y4e7wjBVes
Here's one hitting a Goat.

Oops that was a dog Here's a Donkey. http://news.yahoo.com/did-googles-streetview-car-run-over-donkey-194243893.html;_ylt=A9mSs2pRTtVWaHsAa5pB4iA5;_ylu=X3oDMTByaW11dnNvBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Oops that was a dog Here's a Donkey. http://news.yahoo.com/did-googles-streetview-car-run-over-donkey-194243893.html;_ylt=A9mSs2pRTtVWaHsAa5pB4iA5;_ylu=X3oDMTByaW11dnNvBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

These are Streetview cars.My bad.

Guy:Incognito

kneemos wrote: »

https://youtu.be/7Y4e7wjBVes
Here's one hitting a Goat.

Is that not the (manned) streetview car? And it doesnt look to have hit it, it stops to let it up.And its a donkey.

seamus

kneemos wrote: »

It'll need to be a hell of a lot safer than human drivers if it's to be trusted.
IMO they're doomed to failure as the first case of one of them driving its occupants under a bus will destroy its credibility.

You can't spoof the figures. When the cost of insuring your self-drive car is a tenth of full insurance, a couple of deaths per year worldwide won't put people off.

Anyway, most people won't actually own driverless cars. The model will mostly skip private ownership and jump straight to on-demand vehicles. Taxis in effect, but far more available, way cheaper and no sh1te talk about the economy.

BattleCorp

seamus wrote: »

Anyway, most people won't actually own driverless cars. The model will mostly skip private ownership and jump straight to on-demand vehicles. Taxis in effect, but far more available, way cheaper and no sh1te talk about the economy.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwww. If there are no more taxi drivers, where will I get my fill of casual racism?

Cee-Jay-Cee

BattleCorp wrote: »

Anybody who thinks we won't have driverless cars in the future is away with the fairies. It's going to happen. Maybe not 2020, but it will happen in my lifetime, that's for sure.

So taking the average lifespan of a person is around 75 years, that makes you about 5 years old right now. Does your mammy know your on the Internet?

I can safely say without hesitation, I will never own or be a passenger in a driverless car. I don't even like automatic cars!

murpho999

Funny that a system that is still in its infancy and being tested is deemed a failure after a 2mph collision whist people have more faith in humans who cause the death of a million people plus per year.

Autonomous cars are coming, just a matter of time and fine tuning.

murpho999

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So taking the average lifespan of a person is around 75 years, that makes you about 5 years old right now. Does your mammy know your on the Internet?

I can safely say without hesitation, I will never own or be a passenger in a driverless car. I don't even like automatic cars!

So following your logic you never get on a plane then?

seamus

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So taking the average lifespan of a person is around 75 years, that makes you about 5 years old right now. Does your mammy know your on the Internet?

I can safely say without hesitation, I will never own or be a passenger in a driverless car. I don't even like automatic cars!

This isn't the 1960s, where people are fantasising about colonies on the moon and flying cars to get to work.

Driverless cars exist. Right now. They're being used. Right now. You will see them on Irish roads, in actual commercial or private use in the next decade. After that, full scale adoption will be swift. I've said it here before, but there's a good chance that the next car you buy may be the last.

BattleCorp

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

So taking the average lifespan of a person is around 75 years, that makes you about 5 years old right now. Does your mammy know your on the Internet?

I'm throwing on my psychic hat here and predicting I'll live to be about 72. I'm more than half way there so I expect driverless cars to be commonplace in the next 20 - 30 years if not sooner.

I can safely say without hesitation, I will never own or be a passenger in a driverless car. I don't even like automatic cars!

I'm sure there will still be driver operated cars in your lifetime but I reckon they will be phased out eventually.

As technology improves, they will eventually be shown to be safer than driver operated cars so I'd have no problem with a driverless car.

And if it means that I can get an extra bit of kip during my 3 hour daily commute, I'm all for that.

OldGoat

BattleCorp wrote: »

Awwwwwwwwwwwwww. If there are no more taxi drivers, where will I get my fill of casual racism?

Have no fear, each car will come fitted with GPP - Genuine People Personalities.

/Doffs hat to Mr. Douglas Adams

BattleCorp

OldGoat wrote: »

Have no fear, each car will come fitted with GPP - Genuine People Personalities.

/Doffs hat to Mr. Douglas Adams

I won't feel relaxed in an autonomous taxi unless I hear the words "fcukin Nigerians" at least once every five minutes. :pac:

Will the GPP have Stephen Hawking's voice? I'm imagining what it sounds like when he says "fcukin Nigerians"?

cowboyBuilder

BattleCorp wrote: »

I won't feel relaxed in an autonomous taxi unless I hear the words "fcukin Nigerians" at least once every five minutes. :pac:

Will the GPP have Stephen Hawking's voice? I'm imagining what it sounds like when he says "fcukin Nigerians"?

http://tinyurl.com/huaxtf8

:P:P

Sh1tbag OToole

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm throwing on my psychic hat here and predicting I'll live to be about 72. I'm more than half way there so I expect driverless cars to be commonplace in the next 20 - 30 years if not sooner.



I'm sure there will still be driver operated cars in your lifetime but I reckon they will be phased out eventually.

As technology improves, they will eventually be shown to be safer than driver operated cars so I'd have no problem with a driverless car.

And if it means that I can get an extra bit of kip during my 3 hour daily commute, I'm all for that.

You'll have no commute, your job will most likely be phased out too

BattleCorp

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

You'll have no commute, your job will most likely be phased out too

I work in Health & Safety. I'd say autonomous transport will be available before my job will be taken over by robots.

V_Moth

I don't think the majority of the public have realised just how revolunitary these cars can be potentially be. Some of the many potential benefits:

-Lower weight cars using less fuel = less pollution.
-Lower weight vehicles = less wear & tear on roads = lower road maintenance costs.
-Fewer accidents = lower hospital visits = lower healthcare costs to society. Less taxes (potentially).
-Higher levels of access to people with health issues = easier access to doctors/nurses/hospitals.
-Able to enjoy evening out with friends + not worrying about alcohol. I mean publicans should be shouting from the rooftops about these cars!
-Fewer/no issues with city centre parking if on-demand vehicles = less pollution in cities making them nicer places to be.
-Less road construction needed. More focus on cycleways + public transport (potentially/never in IRL).

There are more once you start analysing it.

Ken.

I was all for driverless cars till Jeremy Clarkson spoke about them on top gear. He said "At some stage your car will make a conscience decision to kill you. Imagine the scenario. Your driverless car is heading towards a group of people. If it hits them loads will die but you'll live. If the car diverts its course it'll hit a wall and you'll die. The car will take the option that causes the least damage and your screwed"

That's not word for word but as close as I remember.

storker

Cosmo K wrote: »

Can't wait for driverless taxis!

They'll put a speaking computer in to give out about other drivers, pronounce the solutions to the world's ills, and moan about how bad business is.

storker

seamus wrote: »

I've said it here before, but there's a good chance that the next car you buy may be the last.

Won't they still require owners?