7 seater that isn' BIG

dinneenp

HI,
Just looking for some opinions on a 7 seater that isn't a large people carrier (e.g. Ford S-Max/Renault Grand Scenic etc.); looking for either SUV or 'close to standard-sized car. The extra seats would be for 'occasional use' and not long runs.
Currently looking at:

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• Nissian X-Trail
• Kia Carens
• Hyundai Santa Fe- lovely, expensive
• Kia Sorento
• Nissian Quashqi
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  I know the Toyota Verso gets recommended but we found the interior extremely drab. Thinking of new or down a few years, 2012 oldest.
  Cheers,
  Pa.

the_syco

dinneenp wrote: »

HI,
Just looking for some opinions on a 7 seater that isn't big. extra seats would be for 'occasional use' and not long runs.
Currently looking at:

• Nissian X-Trail
• Kia Carens
• Hyundai Santa Fe- lovely, expensive
• Kia Sorento
• Nissian Quashqi

By "not big", I assume you want a 5 seater which has two seats that are essentially the boot, but which can fold up into seats if needed?

Something like this, that has two seats that appear in the boot.

loyatemu

Renault Grand Scenic; Citroen Grand Picasso; Ford S-Max

NIMAN

If you don't need 7 all the time, why not look at the Honda FRV?

Smaller than all the others as it's a 3+3, more like a normal car to drive.

Jose Maria

Cmax 7 seater

Toyotafanboi

depending a lot on your budget or the reg plate/ brand name you desire, there is lots out there.

Opel Zafira,
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-zafira-tax-and-nct/11499661
Peugeor 307 SW
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307-sw-sw-7-seater/11341383
Corolla Verso
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-verso-1-6-vvt-i-luna/11277936
VW Touran
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-touran-1-4-auto-380-road-tax/11208355
Kia Karens
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-carens-diesel-7-seater/11493536
Peugeot 5008
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-5008-2-litre-hdi-diesel-2011-7-seater/11490388?sv=true
Merc E Class
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e200-est/11498676
Volvo V70
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-v70/11365715

those are all 5 seater derived or share a chassis with a 5 seat car so are relatively compact.

there is bigger more obscure **** like

Hyundai Trajet
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-traget-diesel-7-seater/11291536
Mazda 5
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-5-2-0-litre-diesel/11495519
Seat Alhambra/ Ford Galaxy/ VW Sharan
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-volkswagen-sharan-new-nct-diesel/11442953

if you are going new/ nearly new the Quasqai+2 or Kadjar probably seem most logical

Greentree_uk

look out for an S-Max titanium x sport. found the rest of the s-max's drab and basic inside. also has a bit of grunt 163bhp is economical and drives really well.

dinneenp

Thanks for the replies; I updated my OP to clarify what kind/sized car we're not looking for.
Just looking for some opinions on a 7 seater that isn't a large people carrier (e.g. Ford S-Max/Renault Grand Scenic etc.); looking for either SUV or 'close to standard-sized car.

dinneenp

Thanks for the replies; I updated my OP to clarify what kind/sized car we're not looking for.
Just looking for some opinions on a 7 seater that isn't a large people carrier (e.g. Ford S-Max/Renault Grand Scenic etc.); looking for either SUV or 'close to standard-sized car.

loyatemu

even in the Grand Scenic (which I have) the 2 rear seats are only suitable for occasional use as there's not much leg room back there. Do Volvo still do estates with the rear-facing bench seat in the boot?

superhooper

dinneenp wrote: »

Thanks for the replies; I updated my OP to clarify what kind/sized car we're not looking for.
Just looking for some opinions on a 7 seater that isn't a large people carrier (e.g. Ford S-Max/Renault Grand Scenic etc.); looking for either SUV or 'close to standard-sized car.

Grand CMax. Have a Titanium version. Those sliding doors are really practical too. Very comfortable driving position and you can take out middle seat to create passage way for access to 2 seats at back.Good spec level too, auto lights/wipers, parking sensors etc. Very compact car. Downside is that you have very little boot if using the 6th and 7th seats. We tend to fold one in and let the other up.http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/ford/grand-c-max/used-2012-ford-grand-c-max-1-6-td-limerick-fpa-149114253862028370

Shefwedfan

Best question is what is your budget? I am currently looking for something similar

Chris_Heilong

There is a version of the Nissan Cube that is a 7 seater.

Shefwedfan

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

There is a version of the Nissan Cube that is a 7 seater.

And it is shocking to look at

_Brian

The Seat Aleta XL might suit.
Friend has one and Loves it.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/11455904
2012 Seat Altea XL 1.6TDI Ecomotive

Shefwedfan

_Brian wrote: »

The Seat Aleta XL might suit.
Friend has one and Loves it.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/11455904
2012 Seat Altea XL 1.6TDI Ecomotive

Is it not a 5 seater?

I seen mentioned of the Kadjar above as well but this is also a 5 seater, there is talk of Renault bringing out a 7 seater based on the X-trail but it will be 2017 by the looks of it.

_Brian

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Is it not a 5 seater?

I seen mentioned of the Kadjar above as well but this is also a 5 seater, there is talk of Renault bringing out a 7 seater based on the X-trail but it will be 2017 by the looks of it.

They come as seven seat models too.
Very car sized mpv

Shefwedfan

_Brian wrote: »

They come as seven seat models too.
Very car sized mpv

You sure? everything I have found says there is no 7 seater option.

Even quick look at Parker and it says it is one of the major con's on them is no 7 seater option: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/seat/altea/xl/

munchkin_utd

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munchkin_utd

Toyota Corolla Verso to my mind is the only 7 seater that you wouldnt know is a 7seater and its actually narrower and shorter than a ford focus saloon if I have read the numbers correctly.

Heres a video showing the interior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDu7TpM33U

driver123

I picked up a new x-trail a few weeks ago. Early days yet.
The extra 2 seats are very small, defiantly kids only, and short trips at that. but used as a 5 seater they have loads of space in the front 2 rows, and the boot is a very good size. The sliding second row helps things a bit in the third row, but it is a compromise. Boot space is good, and the cars are very well spec'ed.

munchkin_utd

driver123 wrote: »

I picked up a new x-trail a few weeks ago. Early days yet.
The extra 2 seats are very small, defiantly kids only, and short trips at that. but used as a 5 seater they have loads of space in the front 2 rows, and the boot is a very good size. The sliding second row helps things a bit in the third row, but it is a compromise. Boot space is good, and the cars are very well spec'ed.

thing is, for many the extra 2 seats are really only there to haul a few more kids, or to put kids in the back to bring some adults.

If you want proper comfort for adults then youre looking at something like an smax type or a proper 9seater van (which really are the business)

bazz26

The Seat Altea XL was still only a 5 seater. Had a bit more rear space than a regular Altea though.

Volvo xc60 might be worth looking at if budget allows.

Shefwedfan

bazz26 wrote: »

The Seat Altea XL was still only a 5 seater. Had a bit more rear space than a regular Altea though.

Volvo xc60 might be worth looking at if budget allows.

Does the XC60 have 7 seats?

bazz26

It was available with 2 extra small occasional seats in some markets afaik but looking at carzone there doesn't seem to be any for sale here from the examples I checked.

Millem

My friend has a Volvo 7 seater suv I think it is called xc90. The boot space is fine, can fit buggy etc. She has 5 kids all in some sort of car seats and fits all of them in;) it is by far the best 7 seater I have ever seen.

bazz26

XC90 is a fairly big bus though.

Millem

bazz26 wrote: »

XC90 is a fairly big bus though.

Gosh I don't really don't think her's looks that big. She has an old one. Lots of other people I know have smax, c4 grandPicasso, 5008 and they look huge to me!!! I will check tomorrow that it is defo an xc90. It is defo an Xc of some description!

bazz26

They are fairly bulky to be fair, which probably won't suit the OP.

Millem

bazz26 wrote: »

They are fairly bulky to be fair, which probably won't suit the OP.

I will check tomorrow. It may be an xc60? It looks no bigger than the old version of Kia sportage. Another friend has 7 seater Santa Fe which I think looks way big and bulky. She can barely park it lol lol

dinneenp

Thanks for the replies so far.
Budget- very expandable, could go up to €30k but would prefer not to. €20k would be preferable but open to more if needed.
We don't want a large people carrier, like the scenic, Picasso etc. Functionally probably great but we just don't find them stylish at all. Any SUV would be OK, large suv isn't off-putting (Santa Fe and Xc90 both are lovely I think)
I really like the Volvo Xc90 but, God it's expensive. €24k upwards for 2010 model, which would have a lot if kms on the clock.

Even though willing to spend a fair amount I'd like fairly fuel efficient and low tax (sub €300 p.a.) for lowish running costs. I'm also aware that big tyres cost more;good 19" tyres cost about €200+ each, which is a cost to factor in.

Lastly, it's not a deal breaker but would be delighted with leather interior, plush trim. After all you spend all your driving time in it so why not have great comfort.

Getting a Carens for 24 hour test drive on Friday, have had short test drives on Santa Fe, X Trail so far. Both nice to drive.
Cheers,
Pa

Millem

dinneenp wrote: »

Thanks for the replies so far.
Budget- very expandable, could go up to €30k but would prefer not to. €20k would be preferable but open to more if needed.
We don't want a large people carrier, like the scenic, Picasso etc. Functionally probably great but we just don't find them stylish at all. Any SUV would be OK, large suv isn't off-putting (Santa Fe and Xc90 both are lovely I think)
I really like the Volvo Xc90 but, God it's expensive. €24k upwards for 2010 model, which would have a lot if kms on the clock.

Even though willing to spend a fair amount I'd like fairly fuel efficient and low tax (sub €300 p.a.) for lowish running costs. I'm also aware that big tyres cost more;good 19" tyres cost about €200+ each, which is a cost to factor in.

Lastly, it's not a deal breaker but would be delighted with leather interior, plush trim. After all you spend all your driving time in it so why not have great comfort.

Getting a Carens for 24 hour test drive on Friday, have had short test drives on Santa Fe, X Trail so far. Both nice to drive.
Cheers,
Pa

My friend's Volvo has tan/cream leather seats, it is fab my neighbour just bought a 161 xtrail, she traded in her quasqai. Do Nissan still do the quasqai+2?

I would also look at the 7 seater cmax. It's not as big as smax another friend just bought a VW touran, it is a people carrier but not as big as most. The great thing is, is that it has 5 isofix points.

Shefwedfan

The Volvo XC90 is the 7 seater. It is huge and really the competition is the Q7 from Audi. Both start at 70k so you are looking at big money even second hand. Really if looking for something compact then neither are an option. Lovely but not an option.

I had the same 30k budget you are talking about. Really wanted a new X-Trail 7 seater but I have reduced my budget as don't want to spend that much cash on a car

So my options at the moment are(I am looking in UK as there is a lot of s**t in Ireland)

Peugeot 5008 - Sister in law has one and wife likes it. Comes fairly decent spec and wife likes the look of it as fairly compact.
Ford S-Max - My choice as I had Mondeo's and liked the engine. Can get auto version fairly easy
Vauxhall Zafira - Looks similar to Peugeot but priced very aggressive in UK.
Qashqai +2 - I have 5 seater Qashqai and it was great, some lovely high spec models in UK, leather seats etc

My budget now is circa 10-15k. 15k will be needed for S-Max/Qashqai/5008

I can get the Zafira over for 10k

My main goal is low mileage with high spec/comfrotabel. Majority of these 7 seater are reliable and will sell in a few years anyway so badge is not a concern

To give you an idea, this is a UK Qashqai +2 spec: http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201602010607464?postcode=se19pz&quicksearch=true&make=nissan&radius=1500&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=3&model=qashqai%2B2&logcode=p

There is reputable companies in Ireland importing these if you dont want to bring in yourself.

pollocks

Have you considered the Mitsubishi outlander ? The new model is a massive improvement and is a good bit cheaper than its rivals. Also comes with an 8 year warranty.

Shefwedfan

pollocks wrote: »

Have you considered the Mitsubishi outlander ? The new model is a massive improvement and is a good bit cheaper than its rivals. Also comes with an 8 year warranty.

I actually looked at them, very hard to find decent second hand one. Interior is very bland as well and spec is shocking, like something from 10 years ago

Buying new is pointless as you will lose an absolute fortune on them. Also the X-Trail is similar price new and will hold value.

Shermanator

One important question to ask yourself is "who will be sitting in the back 2 seats"
Have found over the years that a number of 7 seaters didn't suit as my lads had big feet and there was not enough room for them.

Shermanator

One important question to ask yourself is "who will be sitting in the back 2 seats"
Have found over the years that a number of 7 seaters didn't suit as my lads had big feet and there was not enough room for them.

dinneenp

Shefwedfan wrote: »

To give you an idea, this is a UK Qashqai +2 spec: http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201602010607464?postcode=se19pz&quicksearch=true&make=nissan&radius=1500&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=3&model=qashqai%2B2&logcode=p

There is reputable companies in Ireland importing these if you dont want to bring in yourself.

Thanks for the info, they are a lot cheaper but that's before the 'fleece us' charges over here. I've gotten onto a few companies in Galway about importing, they both said they'd get back to me but haven't yet.....

Shefwedfan

dinneenp wrote: »

Thanks for the info, they are a lot cheaper but that's before the 'fleece us' charges over here. I've gotten onto a few companies in Galway about importing, they both said they'd get back to me but haven't yet.....

I am going to probably buy off cargiant or someone like that, they are a bit more expensive but no worries then about clocking.

Then just bring it over.....

Problem in Ireland anything that is a 7 seater is either in bits or is massive money.....I want something I can buy now at good value and keep for a good few years as I have another car which I change regular.....

I will probably go S-Max just for the better room on the back 2 seats, really the other 7 seater(Qashqai/5008) the seats are only for kids circa 5-10

bazz26

Millem wrote: »

My friend's Volvo has tan/cream leather seats, it is fab my neighbour just bought a 161 xtrail, she traded in her quasqai. Do Nissan still do the quasqai+2?

I would also look at the 7 seater cmax. It's not as big as smax another friend just bought a VW touran, it is a people carrier but not as big as most. The great thing is, is that it has 5 isofix points.

The new X-Trail replaced the older Qashqai +2.

Millem

bazz26 wrote: »

The new X-Trail replaced the older Qashqai +2.

That explains why she bought an x-trail!

Shefwedfan

Sorry to pull this back up but does anyone on here have one of these?

Merc E Class
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...0-est/11498676

Do the back seats actually work ok?

dinneenp

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry to pull this back up but does anyone on here have one of these?

Merc E Class
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...0-est/11498676

Do the back seats actually work ok?

Dead link.

Shefwedfan

dinneenp wrote: »

Dead link.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e200-est/11498676

Sorry that link should work, it is the E-class estate with the 2 seats in boot which have you facing out the back of car......

Gilbey

Can't fault the ford s.max...I have the 2 litre diesel 140 bhp. As far a 7 seaters go it's good..better to drive than most mpvs and not too big either..hard to get though they seem to be holding there price..not much value in the UK at the moment they are an expensive car over there too...of u can find a clean one here it would be handy.

Shefwedfan

Gilbey wrote: »

Can't fault the ford s.max...I have the 2 litre diesel 140 bhp. As far a 7 seaters go it's good..better to drive than most mpvs and not too big either..hard to get though they seem to be holding there price..not much value in the UK at the moment they are an expensive car over there too...of u can find a clean one here it would be handy.

Just wondering as I need to test drive one, in terms of the back 2 seats how big are they compared to the seats in Qashqai+2/5008 etc which can only fit kids?

grogi

Shefwedfan wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e200-est/11498676

Sorry that link should work, it is the E-class estate with the 2 seats in boot which have you facing out the back of car......

Do you know how long the E-Class estate W211 is? It is ~4.89m - it is even longer than a Ford Galaxy - which is 4.82m...

It is not a small car, it is gigantic.

Oafley Jones

grogi wrote: »

Do you know how long the E-Class estate W211 is? It is ~4.89m - it is even longer than a Ford Galaxy - which is 4.82m...

It is not a small car, it is gigantic.

OP edited his post to show he doesn't want a large people carrier. Besides, some people would be more comfortable in a estate vs a vehicle that may be just bigger overall, regardless of length.

dinneenp

A the moment we're leaning towards a new X-Trail.
Not cheap but very nice. We looked at a Qashqai a few years older but really like the design & internal of the new X-Trail.

Shefwedfan

dinneenp wrote: »

A the moment we're leaning towards a new X-Trail.
Not cheap but very nice. We looked at a Qashqai a few years older but really like the design & internal of the new X-Trail.

They are lovely, I would love one if I had the cash!!!

Bravobabe

Hi,

So your really looking for a car with fold-up seats in the back.
You can only fit so much into a certain space (unless you get the Tardis:) )
I've have experience of the Trajet, Grand Senic & Avensis Verso - but non of these suit you (the Trajet is probably the only one that looks really big)

There is lots of choice out there - but it depends on your budget.
Be mindful that may cars were used as the "kids transporter" and have internal wear and tear particularly in the back seats (fights, spills etc). So if you see one in very good condition snap it up.

As I said there is loads of choice - see below a selection from just one garage. I have no connection with this garage. Its just to demonstrate that there is a large choice. (I did but=y a car off him 3 years ago and have been in recently looking for an upgrade)

Best of Luck

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-grandis-2-0-di-d-instyle/10906909
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/citroen-c4-grand-picasso-1-6-hdi-vtr-7-seater/11446400
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-verso-1-6-vvt-i-luna/11239522
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-grandis-2-0-di-d-instyle/10906909
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/citroen-c4-grand-picasso-1-6-hdi-vtr-7-seater/11446400
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-5008-sport-hdi/11524270
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-grand-scenic-1-5-dci-110-dynamique-tomtom/11446378