2016 General Election Waterford

Deise Vu

Max Powers wrote: »

8/11 means bet 8 get 11 back,3 Euro profit.but 1/5 on butler o one€ will get 5,4 Euro profit.surely this means some the bookies is willing to give you more money that butler has less chance.
....as I said I'm not a betting person but on a lighter side of things,I won't be taking tips from any of ye ;-)

8/11 means win €8 for every €11 bet; 1/5 means win €1 for every €5 bet. Winning bets get their stakes back (because you haven't lost!). Jaysus lads I'd love to be ye're bookies. I don't even bet!

If those odds are correct then Mary Butler is a nailed on certainty but Paudie Coffey is also odds-on (ie more likely to win than lose). I presume one or more of Cullinane, Deasy and Halligan are also near enough evens or else the bookies are even more criminal than usual with their odds.

Cabaal

DPA complaint being made against John D. Walsh

http://www.wlrfm.com/news-single.php?cat=1&id=61553

A Waterford woman has raised data protection concerns after she was contacted by text from the campaign of pro-life candidate John D. Walsh. The text asked the recipient to give the Christian Democrat first preference, however Amy McCollum says she has no idea how her phone number was gotten. She said she raised the issue with the candidate on his Facebook page, but didn't get a satisfactory answer. Speaking to WLRfm News, John Walsh said that his team had contacted people who had been signed up to the pro-life campaign, but apologised if the recipients were inconvenienced. He also said his campaign won't be sending any more texts.

deisemum

Cabaal wrote: »

DPA complaint being made against John D. Walsh

http://www.wlrfm.com/news-single.php?cat=1&id=61553

His response is disgraceful and there are now other people that are saying he did the same thing to them.

kayaksurfbum

This is the response he gave to how did you get the phone number!

MRnotlob606

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

This is the response he gave to how did you get the phone number!

This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. Hope he does not get in now or ever in any political forum.

His brochure says he want's to tackle "Political correctness" which is more or less a code word for pro-choice or marriage equality.He's been a vocal opponent of both. He's a Fine Gael failure.

AdMMM

Deise Vu wrote: »

8/11 means win €8 for every €11 bet; 1/5 means win €1 for every €5 bet. Winning bets get their stakes back (because you haven't lost!). Jaysus lads I'd love to be ye're bookies. I don't even bet!

If those odds are correct then Mary Butler is a nailed on certainty but Paudie Coffey is also odds-on (ie more likely to win than lose). I presume one or more of Cullinane, Deasy and Halligan are also near enough evens or else the bookies are even more criminal than usual with their odds.

Overound is 460%, so massive margin

Cabaal

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

This is the response he gave to how did you get the phone number!

WOW.........just wow
What an utterly pitiful dig by him in his response. What a desperate excuse for a politician.
I note he then later deleted the posts.

Based on his previously responses to issues he clearly has issues with (gay people having equality) he has no problem even hating catholic priests for their neutral stance on marriage equality back in 2015

https://twitter.com/johndwalsh/status/580363060470276096

kayaksurfbum

He has issue's. But at least he dosent hide his opinions.

I get the feeling from some wanabe politicians that they hide most of their true opinions.

deisemum

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

He has issue's. But at least he dosent hide his opinions.

I get the feeling from some wanabe politicians that they hide most of their true opinions.

He's definitely got issues and he's not keen on women having their own opinions, I had to run him when he knocked on my door recently.

When you see that he works as a Direct Marketing Database Consultant it makes you wonder where he got peoples information.

Gardner

Had a pint tonight with a good friend heavily involved in SF in Waterford. He said internal polls have Cullinane polling about 7,200 1st pref from feedback from doors etc. Internally they allowing 7.5% of those either to not to vote or change their minds at a worst case scenario. So worst case, he will poll 6,700 1st pref. they are delighted with the campaign so far but he further admitted the 3rd seat is looking less likely. Their results show Deasy, Halligan and Butler taking the 1st 3 seats with Cullinane and Coffey in a battle for the last. It They believe it’s all going down to the wire on the last count with Conway’s transfers! I like to see Cullinane pipping Coffey but I do think he needs to be around 7,500 1st pref to get there! Looking forward to the count on Saturday.

Cabaal

deisemum wrote: »

When you see that he works as a Direct Marketing Database Consultant it makes you wonder where he got peoples information.

Yeah I did spot that, certainly makes you question where he got the data alright. Regardless, his actions and flippant attitude makes you question the safety of the personal data he is supposed to be handling in his workplace.

Wanderer78

Cabaal wrote:

Yeah I did spot that, certainly makes you question where he got the data alright. Regardless, his actions and flippant attitude makes you question the safety of the personal data he is supposed to be handling in his workplace.

Moral of the story, be extremely careful with your personal data all the time

Jamie2k9

Gardner wrote: »

Had a pint tonight with a good friend heavily involved in SF in Waterford. He said internal polls have Cullinane polling about 7,200 1st pref from feedback from doors etc. Internally they allowing 7.5% of those either to not to vote or change their minds at a worst case scenario. So worst case, he will poll 6,700 1st pref. they are delighted with the campaign so far but he further admitted the 3rd seat is looking less likely. Their results show Deasy, Halligan and Butler taking the 1st 3 seats with Cullinane and Coffey in a battle for the last. It They believe it’s all going down to the wire on the last count with Conway’s transfers! I like to see Cullinane pipping Coffey but I do think he needs to be around 7,500 1st pref to get there! Looking forward to the count on Saturday.

Think I will give Deasy N02, Coffey NO1 (planned NO2) and Conway NO3 if it keeps SF out. Will get some family to vote this way to.

Will be shocked if Butler takes a seat.

Any other FG votes need to give Conway a pref.

O Riain

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Think I will give Deasy N02, Coffey NO1 (planned NO2) and Conway NO3 if it keeps SF out. Will get some family to vote this way to.

Will be shocked if Butler takes a seat.

Any other FG votes need to give Conway a pref.

Man, this is not 2011, this is 2016 where Ciara Conway was found out to be the biggest political waste of space ever known to the good people of Waterford and where Fine Gael had a good chance at reform and helping Waterford but instead reformed nothing and sold Waterford a pack of filthy lies. Get with the times, vote with the times.

Was your post a joke? Say it was a joke please.

longshanks

Is there any point in voting for Deasy now, if he's more or less likely to be the next Ceann Comhairle?

Wanderer78

im done with the four main parties now anyway. relics, all carrying baggage. time for something new in irish politics. sadly true change probably wont be coming from this election.

Jamie2k9

O Riain wrote: »

Man, this is not 2011, this is 2016 where Ciara Conway was found out to be the biggest political waste of space ever known to the good people of Waterford and where Fine Gael had a good chance at reform and helping Waterford but instead reformed nothing and sold Waterford a pack of filthy lies. Get with the times, vote with the times.

Was your post a joke? Say it was a joke please.

Not a joke, the only people who will be better off under SF are those on welfare, do the maths of their policies those on the lowest wages around 18,000 and up will save nothing with SF, outside 160 Water and LPT even if you calculated IW and the highest LPT band you will still be better off under FG/LAB policies by between 300-500 yearly.

I would be hoping for a FG majority, I hate LAB but a small price to pay.

All I would say is those on low incomes, do your sums tonight, SF have headline grabbing polices but you will not be better off. Journal had a good article earlier this week about it.

Royal Legend

Deasy = Waste of a vote because he has done nothing previously and intends to do even less going forward

Coffey = About to get ousted hopefully, has offered nothing either

Conway = not an hope of getting back in, nice girl, not a politician though

Butler = looks more than likely she will get a seat, i doubt that she will be the only FF surprise winner.

Halligan = expect he will get back in fairly handily

Cullihane = 50/50 vs either Coffey or Butler IMO, if he fails this time he may pack it in.

Gael23

I'm slightly biased as a Coffey supporter but I think he can do it. He should get a lot of Conways transfers which I think will get him across the line. FF are transfer toxic still

AdMMM

Gael23 wrote: »

I'm slightly biased as a Coffey supporter but I think he can do it. He should get a lot of Conways transfers which I think will get him across the line. FF are transfer toxic still

Conway will perform below the national average for Labour who were as low as 4% in some opinion polls. Doesn't exactly leave many transfers to Coffey. That being said, I think Coffey should be fine.

conditioned games

If it was Deasy Halligan Butler and Cullanine it would be a disaster for Waterford. None of them have influence to protect Waterford university hospital or promote Waterford for investment in the government. Coffey is our best hope, already a cabinet minster and we have seen time and time again how counties with top level representation can have a greater say. If we didn't have Martin Cullen all those years ago there would be no ring road around the city or second bridge.

dark crystal

conditioned games wrote: »

If it was Deasy Halligan Butler and Cullanine it would be a disaster for Waterford. None of them have influence to protect Waterford university hospital or promote Waterford for investment in the government. Coffey is our best hope, already a cabinet minster and we have seen time and time again how counties with top level representation can have a greater say. If we didn't have Martin Cullen all those years ago there would be no ring road around the city or second bridge.

What has he done for Waterford so far then?

O Riain

conditioned games wrote: »

If it was Deasy Halligan Butler and Cullanine it would be a disaster for Waterford. None of them have influence to protect Waterford university hospital or promote Waterford for investment in the government. Coffey is our best hope, already a cabinet minster and we have seen time and time again how counties with top level representation can have a greater say. If we didn't have Martin Cullen all those years ago there would be no ring road around the city or second bridge.

Hasn't protected Waterford much so far, why do you expect him to start now?

Cabaal

What if a positive tweet was equal to a vote in Waterford? You'd be surprised who wins :pac:

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-25-at-22.54.28.png

Thankfully tweets mean very little

Wanderer78

Cabaal wrote:

What if a positive tweet was equal to a vote in Waterford? You'd be surprised who wins

Nothing will really change from this election. All will be revealed tomorrow

The Bowling Alley

O Riain wrote: »

Hasn't protected Waterford much so far, why do you expect him to start now?

My problem with the last government is that there was no unity behind Waterford's representatives. Deasy and Coffey don't really talk. Halligan is a law unto himself and Conway was just trying to do enough to get noticed. When you have 4 TDs trying to compete with, say 20 in Cork, and none of them are even communicating, then how can we stand a chance?

I wouldn't traditionally be a FG voter but those who say that Coffey has accomplished nothing really have not beet paying much attention over the past 12 months.

Mary Butler is a token selection from FF. They stuck two fingers up to Waterford when they didn't select a city candidate and I hope it backfires on them. The woman is not up to the political challenge yet and in fairness, how could she be? She was a housewife who suddenly found herself a Councillor. Not many people know her and she doesn't know enough about the issues.

Cullinane will get in, and he deserves to. Unfortunately he'll be less effective as s TD we be was as a senator and that's just because his voice will never be heard as much in the Dail as it was in the Seanad. When he gets in he's in for a rude awakening and might regret all those times he had a pop at the previous sitting TDs.

As a previous poster said, Halligan, butler, Cullinane and Deasy would be a disaster for Waterford...especially if Kenny is Taoiseach again.

Wanderer78

The Bowling Alley wrote:

As a previous poster said, Halligan, butler, Cullinane and Deasy would be a disaster for Waterford...especially if Kenny is Taoiseach again.

Oh Kenny will be in alright. Normal service will resume next week. At least we have the ould recovery to look forward to!

The Bowling Alley

Well I was referring to the fact that with Kenny as the leader, Deasy hasn't a hope of getting a ministerial position, therefore Waterford will have no representation at the table.

I'm actually starting to worry about this election now. A vote for Mary Butler is a vote wasted.

Wanderer78

The Bowling Alley wrote:

I'm actually starting to worry about this election now. A vote for Mary Butler is a vote wasted.

I've been incredibly worried about this country for a long time, and sadly very little is changing. We 've got big problems to solve

Taxburden carrier

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I've been incredibly worried about this country for a long time, and sadly very little is changing. We 've got big problems to solve

True, and none of the current crop of candidates have the remotest clue where to start.

Wanderer78

Taxburden carrier wrote:

True, and none of the current crop of candidates have the remotest clue where to start.

I'd go a little further than that. Many of these issues are global, and nobody really knows what to do

The Bowling Alley

It has been a very childish election campaign but one would hope that once a government is decided they will roll up their sleeves. Whomever gets in will become public enemy number one and Sinn Fein will spend the next couple of years, once again, shouting about how they could do it better. I think, that when Gerry Adams finally steps down (and most SF members want this to happen asap) then they may actually make up some part of the government in a couple of years time.

But on a local level, as a previous FF supporter, I can't believe that I'm telling anyone who'll listen to not vote for them this year. They are probably the only party whose canvassers (especially the local councillors) don't want Butler to get in. They are all waiting for their chance in the next elections. Mulligan, Quinlan...Murphy...they all hate each other and can't wait to get their chance to leave the council.

Max Powers

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

It has been a very childish election campaign but one would hope that once a government is decided they will roll up their sleeves. Whomever gets in will become public enemy number one and Sinn Fein will spend the next couple of years, once again, shouting about how they could do it better. I think, that when Gerry Adams finally steps down (and most SF members want this to happen asap) then they may actually make up some part of the government in a couple of years time.

But on a local level, as a previous FF supporter, I can't believe that I'm telling anyone who'll listen to not vote for them this year. They are probably the only party whose canvassers (especially the local councillors) don't want Butler to get in. They are all waiting for their chance in the next elections. Mulligan, Quinlan...Murphy...they all hate each other and can't wait to get their chance to leave the council.

Was very surprised Milligan didn't get nomination and added to fact that butler is from same area as Coffey, just seems silly on both fronts.

Wanderer78

The Bowling Alley wrote:

It has been a very childish election campaign but one would hope that once a government is decided they will roll up their sleeves. Whomever gets in will become public enemy number one and Sinn Fein will spend the next couple of years, once again, shouting about how they could do it better. I think, that when Gerry Adams finally steps down (and most SF members want this to happen asap) then they may actually make up some part of the government in a couple of years time.

I will agree it's been an extremely childish even embarrassing campaign but I think I've come to the conclusion that all of the main parties are done and dusted. All relics, all bringing too much baggage. It's time for new politics, new faces, young blood, but i dont Think irelands ready for that just yet

tombliboo83

If there's a hung dail, will we be presented with the same candidates in September? I would've imagined that Eddie Mulligan would've been hot favourite for a seat if he got the party's nod

Wanderer78

tombliboo83 wrote:

If there's a hung dail, will we be presented with the same candidates in September? I would've imagined that Eddie Mulligan would've been hot favourite for a seat if he got the party's nod

I suspect a lot of the countries independents would fall off the list largely due to funding. Some parties would probably make some changes to

tombliboo83

I'm still undecided on no 2,3 and 4. Such poor options . Paudies our best bet of a senior ministry and Conway might climb the labour ladder if they are part of the next govt. Either way we are sorely missing city representation in govt

BBM77

tombliboo83 wrote: »

I'm still undecided on no 2,3 and 4. Such poor options . Paudies our best bet of a senior ministry and Conway might climb the labour ladder if they are part of the next govt. Either way we are sorely missing city representation in govt

I know what you mean. Logically I should give Coffey No.1 for the reason you say. However, because of the way Fine Gael has treated Waterford over the term I just can’t do it.

Gael23

Max Powers wrote: »

Was very surprised Milligan didn't get nomination and added to fact that butler is from same area as Coffey, just seems silly on both fronts.

She was put in to fulfil a gender quota if you ask me.
If you want Waterford to have a voice at the cabinet table, Coffey needs your vote, regardless of what you think of FG

crazy_kenny

BBM77 wrote: »

I know what you mean. Logically I should give Coffey No.1 for the reason you say. However, because of the way Fine Gael has treated Waterford over the term I just can’t do it.

The country was bankrupt when FG took office so they couldn't just wave a magic wand in Waterford. There are plenty other counties in the same boat. I'll be giving Coffee my number 1 as I hope he may get a ministry position in the next Dail term.

Wanderer2010

crazy_kenny wrote: »

The country was bankrupt when FG took office so they couldn't just wave a magic wand in Waterford. There are plenty other counties in the same boat. I'll be giving Coffee my number 1 as I hope he may get a ministry position in the next Dail term.

Thing is, a vote for Coffey is effectively saying that you agree with all the cuts and water charges imposed on the country since 2011. If he was the only option I wouldn't go near him. FG broke every promise in the book and they will do it again..

Dick phelan

So we should vote Coffey so he can get a higher position? Personally don't see him getting a ministerial position anyway but regardless a vote for Coffey is a vote for FG's policies if you don't agree with them then don't vote for Coffey.

The Bowling Alley

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Thing is, a vote for Coffey is effectively saying that you agree with all the cuts and water charges imposed on the country since 2011. If he was the only option I wouldn't go near him. FG broke every promise in the book and they will do it again..

Oh FFS what a stupid thing to say. The country was in a deplorable state and the only way to rebuild was with cuts. This type of attitude is exactly the problem in this country and its this type of attitude which is propelling a crowd of chancers (Sinn Féin) up the polls.

Gael23

Live stream of count
https://www.wit.ie/news/all_news/General-Election-Waterford-count-to-be-streamed

O Riain

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

Oh FFS what a stupid thing to say. The country was in a deplorable state and the only way to rebuild was with cuts. This type of attitude is exactly the problem in this country and its this type of attitude which is propelling a crowd of chancers (Sinn Féin) up the polls.

Can you please explain to me then why Fine Gael promised to reverse all the cuts imposed by Fianna Fail back in 2011?

Seems they were original chancers

The Bowling Alley

No, that sounds like they were just plain naive. Can't believe I've defending FG in public.

O Riain

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

No, that sounds like they were just plain naive. Can't believe I've defending FG in public.

Don't bother then. To say that the main opposition party didn't know the actual state of the countries finances is plain ignorance on your part OR WORSE plain ignorance on their part.

Wanderer2010

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

Oh FFS what a stupid thing to say. The country was in a deplorable state and the only way to rebuild was with cuts. This type of attitude is exactly the problem in this country and its this type of attitude which is propelling a crowd of chancers (Sinn Féin) up the polls.

Excuse me but I have personally been a victim of FGs wake of broken promises. Almost the moment they went into power, they increased 3rd level fees after promising they would not, they cut pensions, disabled peoples annual allowance, increased the salaries of the cronies or family members they hired into office after pledging not to, do you think that was acceptable or "part of the recovery"? They ddint touch the wealthier members of society and there were zero salary cuts for those in FG. Again, turned their back completely on the people who voted them in and only an incredibly naïve person would believe they have the peoples best interests at heart.

Again, not if he held a gun to my head would I give Coffey or any of his fellow FG parasites a vote.

Yes Boss

Under Coffey's supervision FG;

• Removed our City Status
• Undermined our Hospital
• Lost the VEC Head Office to Wexford
• Could not achieve 24/7 Heart care for Waterford
• Did not deliver on University status
• Oversaw limited visits by the IDA (less than elsewhere)
• Still an Unemployment black spot

The list could go on.........

Sully

Yes Boss wrote: »

Under Coffey's supervision FG;

• Removed our City Status
• Undermined our Hospital
• Lost the VEC Head Office to Wexford
• Could not achieve 24/7 Heart care for Waterford
• Did not deliver on University status
• Oversaw limited visits by the IDA (less than elsewhere)
• Still an Unemployment black spot

The list could go on.........

Shall we post a list of what he HAS done for Waterford? No? Remember, It was Labour who made all the promises. Fine Gael made it very clear Water Charges were coming in and Labour did their best to remind the voters of that too, pre-election.

What has Halligan done for Waterford? Or Cullinane? Shall we post a list of what they failed to do? I'll refer to your original list - they didn't do anything.