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Earning Big Money

  • 29-01-2016 10:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭


    Ok so this might sound a bit out there but how do you get to the stage where you are earning about 1000 a week after tax while working 40 or less hours a week? I see everyone stuck on the 330 - 500 a week max after tax in all sorts of jobs and can just claim welfare and earn the same amount on that, so any business people here can you guide me on it? how to make big money legally, on a consistent basis


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    liam650 wrote: »
    Ok so this might sound a bit out there but how do you get to the stage where you are earning about 1000 a week after tax while working 40 or less hours a week? I see everyone stuck on the 330 - 500 a week max after tax in all sorts of jobs and can just claim welfare and earn the same amount on that, so any business people here can you guide me on it? how to make big money legally, on a consistent basis

    Eh well firstly on welfare you'll not get anywhere near 330-500 a week net if you are a single person.

    Someone earning 1000 a week net as a single paye worker would be earning a gross salary of about 82500

    Generally they would be fairly highly qualified and experienced individuals, and the standard 40 hour week would long be a thing of the past.

    What exactly are you trying to figure out here? How to work a 9-5 job and earn lots of money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭ubermick


    I was going to say head of a crime syndicate, but keeping the boys in line might be too much work for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭liam650


    Stheno wrote: »
    Eh well firstly on welfare you'll not get anywhere near 330-500 a week net if you are a single person.

    Someone earning 1000 a week net as a single paye worker would be earning a gross salary of about 82500

    Generally they would be fairly highly qualified and experienced individuals, and the standard 40 hour week would long be a thing of the past.

    What exactly are you trying to figure out here? How to work a 9-5 job and earn lots of money?

    basically how to start on the road to earning serious money, im nearly finished a degree in business management and so far all i see is an internship with fas an extra 50 quid a week on top of dole, wheres the big time


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    liam650 wrote: »
    Ok so this might sound a bit out there but how do you get to the stage where you are earning about 1000 a week after tax while working 40 or less hours a week? I see everyone stuck on the 330 - 500 a week max after tax in all sorts of jobs and can just claim welfare and earn the same amount on that, so any business people here can you guide me on it? how to make big money legally, on a consistent basis
    By putting in significantly longer hours at the start; you're looking for a 80k+ job and on top of that 40h max a week. Let's say those type of jobs are not exactly common (now if you removed the 40h a week maximum you'd have a wider scope of roles in various London banks etc.)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Get qualified in something you can charge 70-80 an hour for. Do a 15-20 hour week. Work for yourself.

    Done.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Start at the bottom and work the way up.. Its called work for a reason.

    Too many people expect big bucks because they have a qualification.

    Get experience by doing crap, and shine when you can.

    I got noticed and get good money now (part-time).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    You might want to learn patience and forward, long term thinking and planning in that case.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    liam650 wrote: »
    basically how to start on the road to earning serious money, im nearly finished a degree in business management and so far all i see is an internship with fas an extra 50 quid a week on top of dole, wheres the big time

    Be prepared to do the following:
    1. Start out at the lower levels, put in the hours, and keep an interest in your industry
    2. Make sure that outside of work hours, you keep your skills and qualifications current.
    3. Within your work hours, make sure that you are the most effective performer at your level.

    As you progress the same will essentially apply, but you'll get paid more and have more flexibility.

    You surely didn't think a degree in business management was going to land you that sort of money?

    Remember the average wage here earned by half the population is less than half what you are aiming for.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/super-rich-or-super-angry-where-are-you-on-ireland-s-income-pyramid-1.2104861

    80k plus gross is in the top 10% of earners in the country according to the Revenue

    http://www.thejournal.ie/top-1-in-ireland-1940955-Feb2015/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    liam650 wrote: »
    basically how to start on the road to earning serious money, im nearly finished a degree in business management and so far all i see is an internship with fas an extra 50 quid a week on top of dole, wheres the big time

    What do you mean, did you think you would earn large amounts straight out of college?
    I did a management degree also and all it will do is give you a chance to get your foot in the door somewhere, hard work, ability and talent is required from here on, you will soon realise a degree won't get you past the 25k a year mark, your performance alone dictates your career path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    IT contracting at 450-500 a day. Reduce the amount you actually take out for day to day living (e.g. Get your partner to pay for the mortgage and bills out of their salary) and then pay the 12.5% corporation tax at the end of the year.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    endacl wrote: »
    Get qualified in something you can charge 70-80 an hour for. Do a 15-20 hour week. Work for yourself.

    Done.

    Won't hit 82.5k once you factor in holidays
    IT contracting at 450-500 a day. R

    That will hit that amount, but given OP is just a graduate, I doubt they'd have the skills to command that level of a daily rate.

    Top rates for very highly skilled people in IT who are contracting at the moment are 600 per day plus, up to 1000 per day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    IT contracting at 450-500 a day. Reduce the amount you actually take out for day to day living (e.g. Get your partner to pay for the mortgage and bills out of their salary) and then pay the 12.5% corporation tax at the end of the year.

    And how do you get the money out of the company?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    And how do you get the money out of the company?

    Dividends which you then pay tax on

    Doing it as a director and being paid will still hit OPs magical 1000 per week


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    If you are going to run your own business and earn that sort of money then get a job as a cleaner in your chosen field, then work as admin in an office, then work in the shipping bay and stationary department

    Find out every way you will be losing money or where the wasted money is when you are the owner of the company, plus you need to be able to do every job yourself if you are facing a deadline

    15 hour days, 7 days a week including holidays, no sick days allowed and it will take 3-5 years to make a profit depending on what field you choose :)

    Business is a passion not a career, ask me in another 3 years if the gamble was worth it and I am rich with that thing called money that I vaguely remember, tough as it is I love every single minute of it, 80k yes please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Stheno wrote:
    Top rates for very highly skilled people in IT who are contracting at the moment are 600 per day plus, up to 1000 per day

    No, those are the rates that a company that sends IT people to your company charge. The people themselves get nowhere like that rate.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    No, those are the rates that a company that sends IT people to your company charge. The people themselves get nowhere like that rate.

    I know several contractors on such rates at the moment. Having to bring guys in from the UK is causing havoc at the high end of the market. These tend to be 3-6 month contracts looking for very specific skills, I've worked with enough of them, and know enough recruitment agents recently about roles to know that it is the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭liam650


    well what has 4 years in a degree taught me? certainly nothing to that level, such a disappointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    Stheno wrote: »
    I know several contractors on such rates at the moment. Having to bring guys in from the UK is causing havoc at the high end of the market. These tend to be 3-6 month contracts looking for very specific skills, I've worked with enough of them, and know enough recruitment agents recently about roles to know that it is the case.
    What are these skills pulling those rates as an independent contractor? Genuine question as I'm a developer.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    liam650 wrote: »
    well what has 4 years in a degree taught me? certainly nothing to that level, such a disappointment

    Did you seriously think that getting a degree would allow you earn that sort of money straight out of college?

    If you did, you need a serious reality check, the working world will be a revelation to you


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    tobsey wrote: »
    What are these skills pulling those rates as an independent contractor? Genuine question as I'm a developer.

    Not development, the ones I am most aware of are entreprise process architects specialising in massive transitions/data centre moves.

    And some technical architect roles with cloud/vm experience


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    Stheno wrote: »
    I know several contractors on such rates at the moment. Having to bring guys in from the UK is causing havoc at the high end of the market. These tend to be 3-6 month contracts looking for very specific skills, I've worked with enough of them, and know enough recruitment agents recently about roles to know that it is the case.

    Any part time jobs going? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭liam650


    Stheno wrote: »
    Did you seriously think that getting a degree would allow you earn that sort of money straight out of college?

    If you did, you need a serious reality check, the working world will be a revelation to you

    taught id get more than an extra 50 a week on top of dole or doing shift work in dunnes


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Any part time jobs going? :)

    Eh no.

    If you want to work at that end of the market as a contractor, it's unlikely you'd survive part time or even 9-5


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    liam650 wrote: »
    taught id get more than an extra 50 a week on top of dole or doing shift work in dunnes

    Well what grade degree are you expecting to get? Have you applied for any graduate programmes?

    They all pay at least 25k and up to 30k if you have the academic record to be considered for them?

    If you want to become a trainee accountant or auditor then you are looking at min. wage.

    Don't know how you seem to think that you'll end up on jobbridge.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    Stheno wrote: »
    Eh no.

    If you want to work at that end of the market as a contractor, it's unlikely you'd survive part time or even 9-5

    and I probably don't have the skills but for that money I would learn them

    I would also have to fit it around working 15 hour days 7 days a week getting my business to where I want it to be, but if you don't ask you don't get :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    If you were serious about "big money". You would have worked hard to get into a top college and then aimed to get a 2.1 minimum to get a graduate programme. During the summer you would have interned. If you were good. They would have offered you a contract for when you finished college. You don't end up in a top job. You kill yourself for years to do it.

    I don't know of any high paid job that you work 40 hours a week. If you are serious about a career. You generally work closer to 60/70. I have friends who work from 7.30am to 9 pm. Their pay reflects it


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Income is relative, if you are earning €1,000 a week it might seem like massive money but throw in expenses and it mightn't be enough to keep you afloat. For example, take someone with €1,600 per month mortgage, 2 kids in child care costing €200 each per week, travel expenses of €100 per week, all of a sudden that "big money" amount of €1,000 per week (4k a month) leaves the person with €300 to "live" on per week. That €300 is to cloth, feed, entertain them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    Stheno wrote: »
    Not development, the ones I am most aware of are entreprise process architects specialising in massive transitions/data centre moves.

    And some technical architect roles with cloud/vm experience

    You'd fit the first group in a taxi. No surprise they're getting those rates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Real bang of entitlement in here.
    I started my first job out of college almost 10 yrs ago at circa 23k pa. Im currently contracting and getting over your weekly magic figure, working 40hr wks.

    Work hard, have patience. If you want to try and get rich quick, buy a lotto ticket.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    and I probably don't have the skills but for that money I would learn them

    I would also have to fit it around working 15 hour days 7 days a week getting my business to where I want it to be, but if you don't ask you don't get :)

    At that level you are talking about guys with no just skills but massive experience. They have the ability to get on site and within week be more up to speed than staff there for months.

    That's the value they bring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I spent 13 years in a company and worked my way up to ~€850 net.

    By that stage I was a physical and mental wreck. Taking stuff To sleep and then stuff to stay awake. Having to sleep in the car for an hour on the way home from work as my body would crash.

    First chance I got I jacked it in and I'm now working at a job that pays substantially less. But I have a great home life and spend time with my two kids. Yes sometimes I miss the extra disposable income, but there's more to life than money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I read something recently along the lines of the completely unrealistic expectations the current generation of graduates have as a result of living in a society that tells them that they ARE special and can be anything they want to be, because they're ENTITLED to that - this thread apparently proves the theory right.

    Contrast to my generation who grew up in the 70s and 80s and the harder times our parents endured and the effects it had on us - teaching us that progress was earned through hard work and sacrifice.. which is exactly how the current "big bucks" people the OP is talking about got it in the first place.

    OP, unless you happen to have a relative in a senior position in a small company somewhere (and want to be known as the fella who's only where he is because of his Daddy/Mammy/Uncle/Whatever) then the advice you've been given above is the way to go... start somewhere, put in the effort and hours to get noticed, and that's how you'll progress........ but it certainly won't happen overnight if that's what you're thinking.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    tobsey wrote: »
    You'd fit the first group in a taxi. No surprise they're getting those rates.

    Agreed, but that's the field I work in, and I constantly have recruitment agents on the phone to me when they have such roles.

    I've a long notice period in my current job which excludes me from taking them on, but they (recruitment agents) complain bitterly about lack of resources being available. And whinge and moan about needing resources now when people are on notice periods

    That said they are getting massive commissions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Stheno wrote: »
    At that level you are talking about guys with no just skills but massive experience. They have the ability to get on site and within week be more up to speed than staff there for months.

    That's the value they bring.

    Ah yes, the legendary big marine named Camouflage. :D


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I read something recently along the lines of the completely unrealistic expectations the current generation of graduates have as a result of living in a society that tells them that they ARE special and can be anything they want to be, because they're ENTITLED to that - this thread apparently proves the theory right.

    Contrast to my generation who grew up in the 70s and 80s and the harder times our parents endured and the effects it had on us - teaching us that progress was earned through hard work and sacrifice.. which is exactly how the current "big bucks" people the OP is talking about got it in the first place.

    OP, unless you happen to have a relative in a senior position in a small company somewhere (and want to be known as the fella who's only where he is because of his Daddy/Mammy/Uncle/Whatever) then the advice you've been given above is the way to go... start somewhere, put in the effort and hours to get noticed, and that's how you'll progress........ but it certainly won't happen overnight if that's what you're thinking.


    I find the same with my partners son, he graduated having taken six years to get a four year degree, and less than a year into his job is complaining that it's boring and he wants to move to be paid more.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    Stheno wrote: »
    At that level you are talking about guys with no just skills but massive experience. They have the ability to get on site and within week be more up to speed than staff there for months.

    That's the value they bring.

    It was tongue in cheek, no one earns the big money without years of hard work, huge amounts of experience or these days qualifications, I am 50 and very good at what I do, the business is ahead of plan but I have no qualifications as I left school at 15 so I am doing a degree to get the bit of paper that proves I can do what I do

    One business has led to another, I need the piece of paper to bring the 2 together to earn the much bigger money from the 2nd as it is in a sector where degrees count but I have learnt it through my main business by experience and learning the hard way by making mistakes and fixing them

    OP do you want to do a free internship with me :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    It was tongue in cheek, no one earns the big money without years of hard work, huge amounts of experience or these days qualifications, )

    I find that in IT it's worse (that's my field)

    I currently have five exams/qualifications that I'm being expected to undertake asap due to market demands, however I'm completing a Masters as I don't have a degree, so they have taken a back burner to that.

    Since 2011 I have done a total of 20 different exams/qualifications to keep up to date in my field. And I'm not quite at that level worth those huge rates!

    A lot of people would find that daunting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭phildenny


    liam650 wrote: »
    taught id get more than an extra 50 a week on top of dole or doing shift work in dunnes

    You might want to read back over that sentence before you go looking for work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    I am ecommerce and all things related, social media, analytics, seo, new toys to bring in more sales, I have my google certs and just "get it"

    I beta tested the software before it was launched and as I use it on a daily basis I can spot bugs and glitches which are fixed by the developer before anyone knows there was a problem

    All of the ecommerce sites I build take decent money but as I am self taught I need that bit of paper to prove I can do it to get the big money contracts

    Since 2011 I have done a total of 20 different exams/qualifications to keep up to date in my field. And I'm not quite at that level worth those huge rates!

    That is a lot of exams!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,712 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    endacl wrote: »
    Get qualified in something you can charge 70-80 an hour for. Do a 15-20 hour week. Work for yourself.

    Done.

    20 hours a week @ €80 p/h will earn you €42,400 approx after tax, prsi, and usc have been paid in your income tax calculation at the end of the year.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno



    That is a lot of exams!

    It is :)

    However I am blessed with a close to photographic memory, and have no fear of exams so it wasn't a big deal to me. Completing the dissertation for my masters is a far harder task.

    When I finish that, I've three exams which must be done within two weeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Become a property developer
    Bankruptcy has reduced to 1 year now in Ireland
    The risks of owning your own company have got exceptionally smaller in the last 7 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Stheno wrote: »
    I find that in IT it's worse (that's my field)

    I currently have five exams/qualifications that I'm being expected to undertake asap due to market demands, however I'm completing a Masters as I don't have a degree, so they have taken a back burner to that.

    Since 2011 I have done a total of 20 different exams/qualifications to keep up to date in my field.

    A lot of people would find that daunting.

    As someone who started on the phones in a callcentre myself and worked up into 2nd level, then deskside, then server admin I found I reach a crossroads after about 7/8 years.

    Did I stay in the technical side of things (which I enjoyed but was getting a little tired of crawling around comms rooms too) and put massive time and money into updating my skills each year on top of a job that was already far from 9-5 at that stage.. and all so I'd be able to compete with graduates willing and able to do the job for 50% less.

    Instead I went with option B - management. My role already involved some of these duties anyway - PM, team lead, helpdesk admin - so I focussed on that and discovered that actually I was pretty good at team and then department management :)

    These days I manage a global team of Deskside agents, as well as infrastructure, procurement, projects and pretty much anything else with an "IT" label.. and yes it comes with a nice (but could always be nicer!) salary, flexible hours and work from home rights.. but it took me the best part of 15 years to get to this stage and my day starts at 8am and rarely finishes before 8pm (the sacrifices I mentioned earlier).

    Still, for me it's worth it as I enjoy what I do, have a good team (which makes my job a lot easier) and still have technical elements to keep me "fresh" :)

    (Now all I need is the same thing in the south of the country and I'd be set :p)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    Stheno wrote: »
    It is :)

    However I am blessed with a close to photographic memory, and have no fear of exams so it wasn't a big deal to me. Completing the dissertation for my masters is a far harder task.

    When I finish that, I've three exams which must be done within two weeks!

    Best of luck with them, hard work deserves rewards


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    As someone who started on the phones in a callcentre myself and worked up into 2nd level, then deskside, then server admin I found I reach a crossroads after about 7/8 years.

    Did I stay in the technical side of things (which I enjoyed but was getting a little tired of crawling around comms rooms too) and put massive time and money into updating my skills each year on top of a job that was already far from 9-5 at that stage.. and all so I'd be able to compete with graduates willing and able to do the job for 50% less.

    Instead I went with option B - management. My role already involved some of these duties anyway - PM, team lead, helpdesk admin - so I focussed on that and discovered that actually I was pretty good at team and then department management :)

    These days I manage a global team of Deskside agents, as well as infrastructure, procurement, projects and pretty much anything else with an "IT" label.. and yes it comes with a nice (but could always be nicer!) salary, flexible hours and work from home rights.. but it took me the best part of 15 years to get to this stage and my day starts at 8am and rarely finishes before 8pm (the sacrifices I mentioned earlier).

    Still, for me it's worth it as I enjoy what I do, have a good team (which makes my job a lot easier) and still have technical elements to keep me "fresh" :)

    (Now all I need is the same thing in the south of the country and I'd be set :p)

    I went from call centre to consulting over a nine year span and like you earn a nice salary, but I travel a lot and work late most days.

    The earn a lot and work 9-5 mentality is well and truly gone imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭deathtocaptcha


    In short you need to be your own boss to have a glass ceiling in terms of earning potential. That's the quickest way.

    If you're the type of person who asks people how to make big money for as little work as possible, you're considered a wantrepreneur.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Silverbling


    Become a property developer
    Bankruptcy has reduced to 1 year now in Ireland
    The risks of owning your own company have got exceptionally smaller in the last 7 years.

    Only if you are a millionaire, for the rest of us it can bring other problems, it is a massive gamble, the self employed are still in the middle of somewhere the government have not figured out yet, we are not prsi and not unemployed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Stheno wrote:
    I find that in IT it's worse (that's my field)

    Stheno wrote:
    I currently have five exams/qualifications that I'm being expected to undertake asap due to market demands, however I'm completing a Masters as I don't have a degree, so they have taken a back burner to that.

    Stheno wrote:
    Since 2011 I have done a total of 20 different exams/qualifications to keep up to date in my field. And I'm not quite at that level worth those huge rates!


    In IT, qualifications matter little. The fundamental reason is that technology is moving faster than exam courses can be developed.

    Put another way, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zukerberg all share being massively rich from IT yet dropping out of college.


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