Sheep dipping Unit

gaz123

Has anyone made their own sheep dipping unit or know where you can get one without costing a fortune

ganmo

Built or mobile?

gaz123

Built

rangler1

gaz123 wrote: »

Built

I did one ten years ago, used a JFC tank, but it was €450 at the time, I'd imagine that concrete ones are better and cheaper, but the concrete suppliers had no interest in supplying them during the building boom......I wouoldn't do t with a JFC tank the nxt time though

gaz123

I see the concrete ones are €450 as well. Id prefer one to make one like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ5d0KAc5LQ

gaz123

I see the concrete ones are €450 as well. Id prefer one to make one like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ5d0KAc5LQ

davidk1394

Built our one using blocks and cement.. haven't a clue how much it cost though

gaz123

Can I see a picture of your sheeprun DavidK

serfspup

cast my own tank about 5X5 can dip 3-400 sheep per fill. one man operation.
still making adaptations but on the whole would do the same again

gaz123

Sounds good. Any pictures of it ?

davidk1394

In the first picture. The pen is built in a semi circle so as the sheep are dipped they can be tightened in. The dippinformation tank is under the weighing scales. The covers are lifted off using the 3cx and emptied out with the back actor. When the sheep are dipped they climb up steps to get out. The draining pens are behind the tank where the sheep are standing. The sheep stand in the pen for a half hour. The dip flows down the pen into a drain and directed into the tank

In the third picture. The gate divides the sheep into the different pens. The drain leafs into a man hole where the dip flows into the tank. When not in use the run off from the yard is directed into a soak pit

Username John

davidk1394 wrote: »

In the first picture. The pen is built in a semi circle so as the sheep are dipped they can be tightened in. The dippinformation tank is under the weighing scales. The covers are lifted off using the 3cx and emptied out with the back actor. When the sheep are dipped they climb up steps to get out. The draining pens are behind the tank where the sheep are standing. The sheep stand in the pen for a half hour. The dip flows down the pen into a drain and directed into the tank

In the third picture. The gate divides the sheep into the different pens. The drain leafs into a man hole where the dip flows into the tank. When not in use the run off from the yard is directed into a soak pit

No pics...

davidk1394

Picture 1

J.O. Farmer

davidk1394 wrote: »

Picture 1

Still no pics

ganmo

pics could be too big?

davidk1394

sorry about that ... here ye go

Jack180570

gaz123 wrote: »

Has anyone made their own sheep dipping unit or know where you can get one without costing a fortune

Put in a precast one a few years ago, think it was around 450... think better than plastic or building as less work and safer... the one in your video is WAY too big.. will take too much dip to make up the dip and just not necessary, I think...
You will need an area above the tank for the sheep to drip and return the dip to the tank... this is for environmental and cost reasons.

kk.man

Jack180570 wrote: »

Put in a precast one a few years ago, think it was around 450... think better than plastic or building as less work and safer... the one in your video is WAY too big.. will take too much dip to make up the dip and just not necessary, I think...
You will need an area above the tank for the sheep to drip and return the dip to the tank... this is for environmental and cost reasons.

Like your dip.. Plenty food for thought

Jack180570

gaz123 wrote: »

Has anyone made their own sheep dipping unit or know where you can get one without costing a fortune

This is a video of us dipping sheep in the tank we installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Yz1LiTI4I&feature=youtu.be

razor8

Jack180570 wrote: »

This is a video of us dipping sheep in the tank we installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Yz1LiTI4I&feature=youtu.be

Do you only put in one at a time?

ganmo

Jack180570 wrote: »

This is a video of us dipping sheep in the tank we installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Yz1LiTI4I&feature=youtu.be

That a custom tool for dunking them?

Jack180570

razor8 wrote: »

Do you only put in one at a time?

No Razor... that was just for the video... when dipping we keep two in the tank all the time and as one is getting ready to climb out, the 'third' one is being backed into it... we would do about 35 in a batch, let them drip and then strengthen up the dip again before the next batch...
Works fairly good insofar as you need to have them in the dip for about a minute to dip them properly so I dont think a bigger tank would be any great benefit...

Jack180570

ganmo wrote: »

That a custom tool for dunking them?

... no ganmo... it was a 4 prong pike and adjusted with the grinder and welder... watching the vid I was thinking that you would want to be careful with it not to pick the eye out of a sheep... havnt so far but wondering myself if there is a better tool for the job...

ganmo

The only tool I ever saw used for dipping had a head like ~

Cran

Jack180570 wrote: »

This is a video of us dipping sheep in the tank we installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Yz1LiTI4I&feature=youtu.be

That's a great job never seen one in a shed before, how do you cover it when not in use?

Jack180570

Cran wrote: »

That's a great job never seen one in a shed before, how do you cover it when not in use?

Thanks Cran... we set tank 3 inches below ground surface and we cut some 6 x 3's just over the width of the tank and when not in use we cover with those.
It works pretty well, just that it can be a bit slippery over that area when we have sheep in the crush. I think we might 'groove the boards when we get a chance.

cloonman

What size tank would be best? I was looking at precast ones that are 180 gallons and one that are 340 gallons, something in between would probably be best, what size is your tank David?

Cattlepen

davidk1394 wrote: »

sorry about that ... here ye go

You made a really good job of that dip sir

Iodine1

cloonman wrote: »

What size tank would be best? I was looking at precast ones that are 180 gallons and one that are 340 gallons, something in between would probably be best, what size is your tank David?

Your choice really depends on your approximate flock size:
180 gallons allows you to dip 400 sheep, then you have to empty and refill with fresh solution. The 340 gallon tank will allow you to do 765 animals. You cannot keep dip overnight and the smaller tank is cheaper to fill but slower to do numbers.

Iodine1

Also most popular tanks are 200-220 gallons, but I don't know if they can be got precast.

wrangler

Iodine1 wrote: »

Also most popular tanks are 200-220 gallons, but I don't know if they can be got precast.

It was easy get them precast when construction went bust, don't know about now though since precast guys are busy again.
JFC make them too but even if you fill them with water to back fill them the sides are inclined to come in, probably need timber props as well by right

Loves_lorries

answer a silly question please


do organic sheep farmers dip sheep ?

do they use a special solution ?

ganmo

Loves_lorries wrote: »

answer a silly question please


do organic sheep farmers dip sheep ?

do they use a special solution ?

had a quick look at the standards and OP dip is banned, no mention of non-op dip
but

Substances and practices not listed in these standards are taken to be prohibited.

so that looks like no

Loves_lorries

ganmo wrote: »

had a quick look at the standards and OP dip is banned, no mention of non-op dip
but


so that looks like no

Can sheep survive without being dipped?, would the maggots not eat them alive?

wrangler

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Can sheep survive without being dipped?, would the maggots not eat them alive?

You can use preventative pour ons these days, much easier and protect longer.

ganmo

ya dipping is mainly used nowadays as a treatment/preventative against skin borne diseases.

Hard Knocks

wrangler wrote: »

You can use preventative pour ons these days, much easier and protect longer.

Can you mention a few, might start pricing (20 ewes)

wrangler

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Can you mention a few, might start pricing (20 ewes)

Ectofly, clik and clikzin are the ones I use
Each of those have to be put on with a special gun

The maggot season is nearly over, probably another fortnight at the most, the only reason I treated mine was because my neighbour will be looking after them.
If I was here myself I'd have chanced it and just be extra vigilant.

White Clover

wrangler wrote: »

Ectofly, clik and clikzin are the ones I use
Each of those have to be put on with a special gun

The maggot season is nearly over, probably another fortnight at the most, the only reason I treated mine was because my neighbour will be looking after them.
If I was here myself I'd have chanced it and just be extra vigilant.

What's the difference between ectofly and clik wrangler?

wrangler

White Clover wrote: »

What's the difference between ectofly and clik wrangler?

Ectofly and clikzin gives eight weeks cover,
Clik gives sixteen weeks cover, its great for lambs in the summer,you just do them and forget about maggots for the summer.
Ectofly will also kill maggots,
CLIK or Clikzin won't, it only protects

Iodine1

wrangler wrote: »

Ectofly and clikzin gives eight weeks cover,
Clik gives sixteen weeks cover, its great for lambs in the summer,you just do them and forget about maggots for the summer.
Ectofly will also kill maggots,
CLIK or Clikzin won't, it only protects

Also Withdrawal periods before you sell lambs:
Ectofly 8 days
Clik 40 days

Iodine1

Loves_lorries wrote: »

answer a silly question please


do organic sheep farmers dip sheep ?

do they use a special solution ?

OP dip is banned and once treated sheep are out of organic forever.

Non OP dip is Cypermetherin based and is allowed. Cyperguard is product and you must multiply w/d period by 3, thus the 14 days becomes 42 days if selling as organic.

148multi

Loves_lorries wrote: »

answer a silly question please


do organic sheep farmers dip sheep ?

do they use a special solution ?

Yes, they use non op dips like cyper guard for example.

wrangler

148multi wrote: »

Yes, they use non op dips like cyper guard for example.

I think they have to double or treble the withdrawal period

Iodine1

wrangler wrote: »

I think they have to double or treble the withdrawal period

Its actually quite clear and specific. Conventional w/d periods under 18 days are tripled. Thus Cyperguard is 14 days x 3 = 42 days before sale under Organic.