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Do you miss secondary school?

  • 21-01-2016 8:12am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    Some will and some wont, post your thoughts right now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭well spoken man


    No....kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Some will and some wont, post your thoughts right now!

    Right now I'm thinking about what I'll do for lunch.


  • Site Banned Posts: 137 ✭✭MaryAntoinette


    Do you miss it yourself op?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Nope.


    I pass it every day.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a chance. Rose tinted glasses for anyone who does.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fermanagh_man


    Simpler times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    No, I still have nightmares about the place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Fcuk no. Awful 5 years.
    Surrounded by cnuts and reminded about exams every 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    No. Remember being told by teachers these were the best years of your life. Wanted to kill myself. Turns out things got much much better.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I missed it! hit the house next door instead. :P


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Surrounded by all my best friends all day everyday, what's not to like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    I miss not having any responsibility and having lots of free time. The girls were also nicer and more 'open' back then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    Like a hole in the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Miss secondary school?

    That Orwellian Nightmare Factory that was overseen by a man who both looked and enacted rules like a miniature Mussolini?

    That CAO Points Factory that shredded away any sense of education for the sake of "What you should answer on this question..." ?

    That Apartheid Regime that assumed that you were automatically a rule-breaking tosser simply because you took Ordinarly Level core-subjects, while absolute ass-hats taking Higher Level were given the benefit of the doubt?

    That Monument to Hypocrisy that offered those same Higher level tossers College selection advice, and ignored my requests for the same. Only to find out years later that while I managed to get my degrees (with distinctions to boot), many of those tossers ended up washing out in their first year?

    Do I miss secondary school?!!

    ...yea...It was a bit of a laugh I guess...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    No, I shudder everytime I pass it. Presentation convent, not the nicest experience!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭valoren


    No.

    It was like going into a job (certain parts of which you liked, others, hello Maths, that you loathed)
    You worked at this job from 9 to 4 Monday to Friday.
    And you brought your work home with you and weekends were spent studying the job you do.

    And you didn't get paid a penny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Nope. Although a few teachers could get their students to learn, most taught without caring if their students learnt anything. Guidance counsellor was crap (my response to his hanging was; pity it didn't happen before I left the place), and thus I don't miss the place at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    Nope, I miss College though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Not in the slightest. From 4th year up till early sixth year I started mitching a lot of classes. Mainly in the afternoon where I could go home and just not go back, and especially where the classes in the afternoon were pointless nonsense ones like religion.

    Just pure boredom. Couldn't imagine it now with phones, the temptation to sit down the back of the class and surf facebook all day would be incredible.

    Should really look at pushing towards the A-level model like in the UK with a touch of the trades model they have in Germany. Up to 3rd year, give a decent general education. You have to do English and one other language, but it doesn't have to be Irish. And do most of the subjects in a modular form so that you get a proper mix. That is, you might do half a year of geography, then the next term you do half a year of history. Then the next year is woodwork and chemistry. Give everyone a good mix of subjects and information so that they're not spending 3 years going, "Oh god, not fncking history again".

    At the end of 3rd year, going into a technical college to do a trade should be a legitimate option and not the option that only the "academically challenged" avail of. This is something which gives you an actual trade and a level 8 qualification after 4 years. Those who want to keep going get to choose any four subjects - things that they actually enjoy - and they do 200 hours per year per subject on these subjects alone. This brings them up to an equivalent second year college education in these topics. With shorter school days - 10am to 3pm or something similar, to give them more time to study and/or work outside of school.

    What I remember from doing the leaving cert was how much time was wasted on topics that I couldn't give a fnck about - Irish, English, Religion, etc, meaning that there wasn't nearly enough time spent on subjects that I actually did enjoy. The end result was boredom. And not that typical, "Man, I want something to do", but actual, painful, mind-crushing boredom that sucked all motivation out of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    seamus wrote: »
    What I remember from doing the leaving cert was how much time was wasted on topics that I couldn't give a fnck about - Irish, English, Religion, etc, meaning that there wasn't nearly enough time spent on subjects that I actually did enjoy. The end result was boredom. And not that typical, "Man, I want something to do", but actual, painful, mind-crushing boredom that sucked all motivation out of life.
    Agreed. Personally, I think Irish should be cancelled for all except those who want to use it after 3rd year (ie; they're good at it, and want to use it for the LC points, as there's no other use for it), and use the time saved on extra foreign languages.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Some will and some wont, post your thoughts right now!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    HEH hey skylops :-)

    yeah I don't miss secondary at all. The lazy hazy times outside school.... maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    I absolutely hated secondary school - bunch of absolute bitches in my year, had to waste loads of time on subjects I hated (languages, religion, accounting - I would have preferred to have done something like the A-level system and taken maths and all the sciences) and so many petty little things like teachers having a canary at you for wearing runners to walk to school when you lived 40 minutes away and they knew that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    I miss not having any responsibility and having lots of free time. The girls were also nicer and more 'open' back then.

    Did you actually go to the school??

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭CFlat


    I missed it! hit the house next door instead. :P

    Marist College or Aloysius? If it's the Marist College, next time I'll help you line up the sights!

    I went there back in the 80s and there are teachers in there that should be in jail with the brutality they meted out on some students. Mind you most of them are probably retired now or passed on.

    So no I don't miss secondary school at all in fact it brings back some serious nightmares, one teacher in particular who was one nasty basta*d.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The best thing about secondary school were the holidays, not the going to school bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    The thought of school still gives me a slightly sick feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭deadybai


    ''Oh, yes, sir. I miss you like a hawg miss slop. Like a baby miss mammy titty! I miss you like I misses a rock in my shoe!''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    The same fate happened me as did the A-Team, both falsely accused of something that another little **** did and the ****er didn't own up to it.

    Anyway, that made secondary school a nightmare.

    If I was black I could definitely pull off the B A haircut


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Not at all. I didn't have a terribly tough time in school, but college was where I was much happier.

    I miss that from time to time alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Yes, I enjoyed it. I had teachers who you could have a bit of craic with for the most part. Some lunatics but most were sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭brevity


    I ****ing hated Secondary School. While there were some laughs, in general it was an awful experience.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Certainly do not miss MY secondary school. It was an awful one. When the teacher you had the most respect for - and actually looked up to a little - was a wanton and clear alcoholic who would go into the store room off his Physics lab to swig his hip flask during class - then you get a picture of what the general standard of the faculty was. And in fact last time I checked said teacher had risen to the level of Principle for awhile.

    I know school kids say things about their teachers all the time and have petty complaints that only naive children could have. But even accounting for that the chemistry teacher who was assigned as my year head was a draconian power trip freak who seemed to - quite literally - get a hard on for dressing down little boys and making them squirm with guilt or stress or worry over some petty nothing he had exploded into an expulsion affair. Oh Doyle I miss you not.

    And the Irish Schhol Curriculum is one that is very good at eroding all interest anyone might actually have in learning, inquiry, independent thought, creativity or personal growth. A by rote learning off of disconnected "facts" to reproduce on a page during most exams with very little appreciation or understanding fostered for the things one has been learning.

    All that said however I miss school itself. It was wasted on me as a child. Having no worries about income or running a house - and having nothing to concern myself with but academia - and I wasted it playing with computer games or myself. Academia was wasted on me entirely and I regret it now. Half makes me wish I lived in a world where children instead of being educated are put to work, and academia is something you only get put into later in life when you appreciate it.

    I have even toyed with the idea - though I will never follow it through - of going back to 6th year and doing the Leaving again, CAO, and get into a college course and do that. I really miss academia and wish I had it to do again. But with an expensive enough house and family to support it would be awhile - if ever - before I could make such a dream come true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭robman60


    I have never missed it in the two years since I left.

    It was nice having my friends all together as some of them I only see every few months now but other than that I don't miss a thing. I hated being always accountable for where I was to an interfering principal who looked for trouble. I also had to go to classes that I knew were of no benefit to me and the 9am starts every day made it hard to concentrate, especially wearing a scruffy ass uniform and shoes that you wouldn't wear to milk a cow.

    Academically I disliked the rigidity of the marking schemes. I remember chemistry particularly you had to use exact words or you just got zero which was complete nonsense. I think I preferred English and languages because at least there was no set answer and you had greater autonomy to decide what you'd write about or where your piece would go.

    Overall, they were tough enough years especially the early-mid teens. Just glad to be out the other side and college has been abundantly easier and more engaging imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    It looks like the majority have hated their secondary school experience, never doubted, would love to hear some positive things about it though! :P


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I miss parts of it: some of the teachers were great and really got me interested in their subjects. I liked a lot of the work (yeah, I was one of those), I liked some of the sports, swimming and tennis mainly and I can't fault my secondary education, apart from one or two minor problems. I absolutely do not miss the Mean Girls situation which varied from year to year or even term to term, even though I was one of the nondescript types who flew under their radar for the most part. It's amazing what a bit of interfering and back-stabbing will do to a person, which I would witness and dread being caught in their crosshairs. I'm sad to say that I'm still aware of the same juvenile stuff here and there as an adult.

    Lots of school was stressful and difficult, and I didn't get to go home to my parents at night for respite as it was a boarding school. I always envied people who went to day school and had their parents/siblings support whenever they needed it, or even just a hug after a bad day. Even though it was probably the best option for my parents and me at the time, I think its a hard life for a lot of kids. It sure does make you independent though, you deal with all your own sh!t from a very young age and get used to being self-reliant. I don't think the benefits outweigh the costs though.


    These days I look back and remember the good bits, and think of things that were the root of terrible anxiety with rose colored glasses. It's hard to separate the inherent teenaged angst from the additional stress of being separated from the family, but all in all I've little to complain about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    I miss some things about that time in my life; the lack of responsibility, the security, the sense that I could do anything I liked with my life, more free time and yes, some of the laughs and fun I had at school.
    However, would I like to find myself back in a double biology class, with maths to come and at least an hour's homework to do later on? Absolutely not.

    It's like most stages of life. It had its ups and downs. I'm surprised so many posters have such an absolute and vehement hatred of their school years. Maybe I was just lucky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    I miss some things about that time in my life; the lack of responsibility, the security, the sense that I could do anything I liked with my life, more free time and yes, some of the laughs and fun I had at school.
    However, would I like to find myself back in a double biology class, with maths to come and at least an hour's homework to do later on? Absolutely not.

    It's like most stages of life. It had its ups and downs. I'm surprised so many posters have such an absolute and vehement hatred of their school years. Maybe I was just lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Naw, I'm still stuck here...with about twenty years still left to go :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭swimming in a sea


    Not for one second do I miss that sh¦t hole, I lived in the countryside and got a bus(the yellow sh¦tbox for those that can remember) at 7:30am....god I feel sick at the thought of it.:(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    I don't miss it but I did love secondary school overall, especially 5th year, just after the junior cert and no exams that year. I got that uncontrollable laughter that you try to hold in almost every day. Even the mean teachers were just funny half the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I don't miss it but I did love secondary school overall, especially 5th year, just after the junior cert and no exams that year. I got that uncontrollable laughter that you try to hold in almost every day. Even the mean teachers were just funny half the time.

    Which subjects did you teach?:pac:

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Not a chance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Do you miss secondary school?

    Hahahaahaaaaa!!! haaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa!

    *wipes tears away*

    Oh God no!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭jackwigan


    This sums up my feelings on the matter...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    No.

    Most miserable years of my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    My favourite thing about secondary school was the following.

    We were suppose to get permission to go down town, would never look for permission as my friends and I would go for a walk on a loop around town at lunch time.
    One day we met the principal downtown and he told us to stand outside his office for not having permission, in the meantime I had met my father on the way back to school and we chatted for a few minutes.
    While waiting outside the principal's office, a nun came by she opened the swinging doors and said to us that 'you must have been very bold to be sitting outside the principals office', she was elderly and was too busy giving her opinion of us and not enough to keep her eye on the door and she let the door swing back on her hand, she let out an 'ow' and moved quickly along as we laughed at her being too busy minding our business to bother minding her own, as it had shut her up quickly.
    So then the principal came, normal classes had started after lunch, he talked about how we were breaking the rules and he would have to contact our parents, he said to me, 'I will have to contact your parents and let them know and put a note in your green book for your parent to sign'.
    I said 'that is ok, my father knows as I was talking to him downtown and all is fine'.
    He knew then his scare tactics were a non runner and he sent us all back to class and nothing was done, that was in the early 90s.

    Only time outside the principal's office but the sequence of events were perfect. That was a good memory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Do I f**k

    After my first week of school I was happy as a sandboy playing away at the weekend when I was informed that would have to attend school the next week also and that this would continue for the foreseeable future. Apparently I would no longer have as much time to dedicate to crayons and action man.

    I was devastated by this and I'm still shocked that we live in a world where we have to get up every morning and dance to some other ****ers tune.

    There has to be a better way people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Crazyteacher


    Had the opportunity to visit my old secondary in another capacity recently. And I have to say I am still delighted to be out of it. Same atmosphere as ten years ago!


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