Best vendor PvP sniper:

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-01-2016 9:47am #1

Hey all,
I'm looking for a good sniper for Trials / IB / Crucible.

I know people swear by 1000 Yard Stare (awarded in one of TTK missions), but I've not been able to get the hang of it. I'm not sure if the aim assist very low, or what but I seem to be missing a lot of shots with it.

Would prefer a short range scope, able to res snipe in Trials.
Any ideas?

SolvableKnave · 13-01-2016 9:49am

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Hey all,
I'm looking for a good sniper for Trials / IB / Crucible.

I know people swear by 1000 Yard Stare (awarded in one of TTK missions), but I've not been able to get the hang of it. I'm not sure if the aim assist very low, or what but I seem to be missing a lot of shots with it.

Would prefer a short range scope, able to res snipe in Trials.
Any ideas?

Maybe your just $hit???

:P

Can't really comment. I'm not the worlds best sniper, but when I do, I give them a 1000 Yard Stare..... to the face.

gimli2112 · 13-01-2016 9:53am

The gun guy sells one randomly. The Eirene 4 or something like that. Apparently you can OHK a firey Titan (you need last round or a magic bullet perk). I've used it a bit but find it kicks a lot.
I prefer the 1000 yard stare tbh but am too a crap sniper.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-01-2016 9:57am

There's a good TTK sniper guide here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CruciblePlaybook/comments/3lzyc2/sniper_guide_taken_king_edition/

Knave, maybe I didn't phrase the question well enough: I'm looking for a sniper that compensates for my ****ty panic sniping! :pac:

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-01-2016 9:59am

gimli2112 wrote: »

The gun guy sells one randomly. The Eirene 4 or something like that. Apparently you can OHK a firey Titan (you need last round or a magic bullet perk). I've used it a bit but find it kicks a lot.
I prefer the 1000 yard stare tbh but am too a crap sniper.

I have the Aoife Rua-D and Omolon sniper - don't like either of them in PvP.
Aoife Rua is a PVE gun and the Omolon is very low impact - you're not guaranteed a kill with 2 body shots, you're not even guaranteed a kill with 1 head shot.

nevelator · 13-01-2016 10:13am

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Hey all,
I'm looking for a good sniper for Trials / IB / Crucible.

I know people swear by 1000 Yard Stare (awarded in one of TTK missions), but I've not been able to get the hang of it. I'm not sure if the aim assist very low, or what but I seem to be missing a lot of shots with it.

Would prefer a short range scope, able to res snipe in Trials.
Any ideas?

The Ambush scope can be rolled on the 1000 yard stare and is a good low zoom one.

Mickeroo · 13-01-2016 11:35am

Shortgaze scope is the one you want, highest AA available and low zoom too. It's on the void 1000-YS you get from doing one of the vanguard quests.The best scope after that is the Longview imo which is on the vendor roll of the rifle, that foll is a great PvE roll.

SolvableKnave · 13-01-2016 11:45am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Shortgaze scope is the one you want, highest AA available and low zoom too. It's on the void 1000-YS you get from doing one of the vanguard quests.The best scope after that is the Longview imo which is on the vendor roll of the rifle, that foll is a great PvE roll.

My 1000-YS is a void one with:

SIGHTSYS SLS20 - Very Long Distance Scope with Superb Target Acquisition.
SHORTGAZE SLH10 - Short-range Scope, Quick to Aim.

Also has Last Resort and Firely (Got a double kill with this yesterday doing the Crucible Daily)

13-01-2016 12:15pm

Vendor Antinomy XVI is lovely but you need to be able to revive snipe in Trials. Also being able to 1 hit bodyshot people who have taken a small amount of damage is very helpful too. For those reasons 1000 Yard Stare is untouchable. Vendor rolls okay on it. Luckily I rolled Shortgaze and Snapshot/Quickdraw on one I got from the Cryptarch.

SolvableKnave wrote: »

My 1000-YS is a void one with:

SIGHTSYS SLS20 - Very Long Distance Scope with Superb Target Acquisition.
SHORTGAZE SLH10 - Short-range Scope, Quick to Aim.

Also has Last Resort and Firely (Got a double kill with this yesterday doing the Crucible Daily)

What middle tree perks? You'll want to use Shortgaze there anyway.

nevelator · 13-01-2016 12:37pm

AdamD wrote: »

Vendor Antinomy XVI is lovely but you need to be able to revive snipe in Trials. Also being able to 1 hit bodyshot people who have taken a small amount of damage is very helpful too. For those reasons 1000 Yard Stare is untouchable. Vendor rolls okay on it. Luckily I rolled Shortgaze and Snapshot/Quickdraw on one I got from the Cryptarch.

I have been trying to get that roll on a 1K Stare for a while now. The last 3 legendary engrams I bought from the Cryptarch have all decrypted into Havoc Pigeons

SteveDPirate · 13-01-2016 12:39pm

AdamD wrote: »

Vendor Antinomy XVI is lovely but you need to be able to revive snipe in Trials. Also being able to 1 hit bodyshot people who have taken a small amount of damage is very helpful too. For those reasons 1000 Yard Stare is untouchable. Vendor rolls okay on it. Luckily I rolled Shortgaze and Snapshot/Quickdraw on one I got from the Cryptarch.

What middle tree perks? You'll want to use Shortgaze there anyway.

I got a random roll Antinomy XVI and used it in the last Iron Banner for a while. I really enjoyed using it because it was something different and it uses a Hakke scope, but the gun's impact doesn't compare to the 1000 Yard Stare so you can't get the revive headshots. I felt I did ok with it in normal PvP though. Plus it's a good looking gun for my New Monarchy Hunter.

dudeeile · 13-01-2016 12:48pm

I have a 1000 with ambush, partial refund and hidden hand, I've hit more head shots with that sniper in PvP than any other, I think ideally performance bonus as second perk might be more helpful in trials.

Maybe because I've played more trials this year I've used a sniper more, maybe it's the gun because it definitely is not my improved aim that's for sure.

runawaybishop · 13-01-2016 12:48pm

Gunsmith had an eirene rr4 a few times, i got 1 with unflinching and luck in the chamber and 1 with LITC and Zen moment, fairly fun guns to use, like they are on rails.

Kimbot · 13-01-2016 12:51pm

Yeah I picked up the RR4 recently and its alright. Only sniper ive used in the crucible is my 320 raid one. Must level up my 1000YS its only about 290 haha

SolvableKnave · 13-01-2016 1:04pm

AdamD wrote: »

What middle tree perks? You'll want to use Shortgaze there anyway.

Skips Rounds
Riffled Barrel
Mutiny

Not fantastic. Using Riffled Barrel

SteveDPirate · 13-01-2016 1:04pm

runawaybishop wrote: »

Gunsmith had an eirene rr4 a few times, i got 1 with unflinching and luck in the chamber and 1 with LITC and Zen moment, fairly fun guns to use, like they are on rails.

I got that same Eirene RR4 from the Gunsmith when LITC still worked in Crucible. Felt dirty! Body shot?? Screw that, leg shot could down someone! Decent gun but like all other sniper rifles, it doesn't seem as good as the 1000ys.

I have 3 1000ys and I've dismantled at least 2 others. The Vanguard reward one, the vendor and a random roll that has Life Support, Hand Laid Stock and Mulligan. Stability is maxed out on this roll. It's like a laser!

Generic Dreadhead · 13-01-2016 1:27pm

The Jade Rabbit

CDBWhoop · 13-01-2016 1:31pm

The Trials sniper rifle Glass Promontory is pretty good in PvP, but it really depends on the roll. Hidden hand and Short Gaze work very well. It can drop randomly from gold tier packages or as a reward for 7 passage wins.

runawaybishop · 13-01-2016 1:59pm

Best vendor PvP sniper!

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-01-2016 5:43pm

runawaybishop wrote: »

Best vendor PvP sniper!

As in, I have 198 Marks burning a hole in my pocket

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 13-01-2016 5:44pm

CDBWhoop wrote: »

The Trials sniper rifle Glass Promontory is pretty good in PvP, but it really depends on the roll. Hidden hand and Short Gaze work very well. It can drop randomly from gold tier packages or as a reward for 7 passage wins.

Only got 2 blue engrams from my last gold reward package...

Generic Dreadhead · 13-01-2016 5:46pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Only got 2 blue engrams from my last gold reward package...

Go to your post master, you're guaranteed an Gun/Armour/Ghost as far as I'm aware. You could have been full

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 14-01-2016 1:13pm

Cormac... wrote: »

Go to your post master, you're guaranteed an Gun/Armour/Ghost as far as I'm aware. You could have been full

I did get a set of 265 "Sunless ..." legs in my Postmaster. I assume that was just a random drop and not the gold package.

When I opened up the package I only saw blue engrams.

Ran it with my Warlock too and got all of the armour minus legs and the bond. Not bad for a days work.

I had all that gear for both my Warlock and Hunter in Y1, shame I have to collect it again but it's the best outfit in the game.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 29-02-2016 11:36am

Hey all,

I got 2 new Snipers drop at the Iron Banner, looking for some feedback.

I've been using 1000 Yard Stare 1 for the last month but I'm finding I can't hit anything with it. If I'm even a few pixels off, than I get a miss - I'm assuming aim assist should be giving me some help here but I find this gun very unforgiving.

1000 Yard Stare 2 dropped for me last night (only 280 light so haven't used it in IB yet), but this looks exactly what I'm looking for:
Ambush Scope, Snapshot, Firefly (Managed to score a few double kills with Firefly this IB

Mickeroo · 29-02-2016 11:44am

Shortgaze and Longview have the best AA (shortgaze slightly more) afaik and are generally the two best scopes for PvP imo. If you like the ambush go with the ambush though.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 29-02-2016 11:47am

I've been using 1000 Yard Stare 1, with the Longview and I find it very hard to hit anything. I seem to be missing a lot of shots I think I should have landed. I know some of that is down to lag but I also find the scope very unforgiving / hard to use.

SolvableKnave · 29-02-2016 11:48am

As Mick says, the shortgaze is the best scope for PvP. I have Firefly on mine too and getting double kills with one headshot is nice, especially so when they are grouped up on heavy and some are weak.

SolvableKnave · 29-02-2016 11:49am

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I've been using 1000 Yard Stare 1, with the Longview and I find it very hard to hit anything. I seem to be missing a lot of shots I think I should have landed. I know some of that is down to lag but I also find the scope very unforgiving / hard to use.

There's your problem. Switch to the Shortgaze scope. Much better for PvP, and much better Aim Assist.

nevelator · 29-02-2016 12:15pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I've been using 1000 Yard Stare 1, with the Longview and I find it very hard to hit anything. I seem to be missing a lot of shots I think I should have landed. I know some of that is down to lag but I also find the scope very unforgiving / hard to use.

I got a Weyloran's March to drop with shortgaze,underdog, unflinching and snapshot. Which on paper seems to be decent roll. I tried it for a few games and it just didn't click with me. I was using a 1K stare with Longview before that (which I found grand) - so maybe it will take a few more games to get used to the shortgaze scope.

One thing I don't like about the WM; is that sometimes you need 3 body shots to kill an opponent!

PetKing · 29-02-2016 12:18pm

nevelator wrote:

One thing I don't like about the WM; is that sometimes you need 3 body shots to kill an opponent!

Yes, it has poor impact compared to 1k stare.

SolvableKnave · 29-02-2016 12:21pm

nevelator wrote: »

I got a Weyloran's March to drop with shortgaze,underdog, unflinching and snapshot. Which on paper seems to be decent roll. I tried it for a few games and it just didn't click with me. I was using a 1K stare with Longview before that (which I found grand) - so maybe it will take a few more games to get used to the shortgaze scope.

One thing I don't like about the WM; is that sometimes you need 3 body shots to kill an opponent!

PetKing wrote: »

Yes, it has poor impact compared to 1k stare.

I got the perfect WM drop, if suppressing fire and kill assists is your thing with snipers:

Shortgaze SLH10 - Partial Refund (Chance to return some to magazine after an assist) - Mulligan

Mickeroo · 29-02-2016 12:26pm

nevelator wrote: »

I got a Weyloran's March to drop with shortgaze,underdog, unflinching and snapshot. Which on paper seems to be decent roll. I tried it for a few games and it just didn't click with me. I was using a 1K stare with Longview before that (which I found grand) - so maybe it will take a few more games to get used to the shortgaze scope.

One thing I don't like about the WM; is that sometimes you need 3 body shots to kill an opponent!

1k stare probably has higher base AA so even with shortgaze WM might not be much kop., just speculating here though.

Mitch Connor · 29-02-2016 12:58pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

1k stare probably has higher base AA so even with shortgaze WM might not be much kop., just speculating here though.

read the other day that WM has the highest AA in the game for snipers.

29-02-2016 1:03pm

Shortgaze has more aim assist than Ambush and they have the same zoom level, so I'd take it over Ambush though Ambush itself is very usable. Quickdraws probably the best sniper perk in the game so it comes down to whether you want slightly more aim assist (#1) or quicker ADS and weapon swapping (#2).

Snapshot doesn't help with target acquisition. I wouldn't obsess over aim assist, your #1 has a huge amount anyway.

Mickeroo · 29-02-2016 1:16pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

read the other day that WM has the highest AA in the game for snipers.

Interesting, hadn't realised that. Shame the impact is pathetic.

nevelator · 29-02-2016 1:59pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Interesting, hadn't realised that. Shame the impact is pathetic.

Yeah, you'd do more damage throwing a wet sponge at them

OptimusTractor · 29-02-2016 3:05pm

PetKing wrote: »

Yes, it has poor impact compared to 1k stare.

Half the impact but double the rate of fire. Even though I don't know why you'd want a sniper with that kind of setup.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 29-02-2016 3:44pm

OptimusTractor wrote: »

Half the impact but double the rate of fire. Even though I don't know why you'd want a sniper with that kind of setup.

This years Pradeths Revenge. The assist machine!

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 01-03-2016 9:39am

Played a few games of IB last night and used my fancy new 1000 Yard Stare - I can't believe the difference between the two guns!

Went from struggling to keep a positive KD ratio, to averaging 1.33 on the 8 games I played last night.

But my sniping has noticeable improved, was landing a lot of headshots, won more counter sniper battles than I lost, stole way more kills too :pac:

1000 Yard Stare 2:
Scope:|Perk 1|Perk 2|Perk 3
EagleEye SLR20|Eye of the Storm|Quick Draw|Firefly
ViewTac SLH20|-|Snapshot|-
Ambush SLH25|-|Bonus damage to Cabal Centurions|-

Serbian · 01-03-2016 12:10pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

1000 Yard Stare 2:
Scope:|Perk 1|Perk 2|Perk 3
EagleEye SLR20|Eye of the Storm|Quick Draw|Firefly
ViewTac SLH20|-|Snapshot|-
Ambush SLH25|-|Bonus damage to Cabal Centurions|-

Decent roll. You should use Quickdraw rather than Snapshot on that gun. Quickdraw gives you improved ADS time as well as allowing you to draw the gun faster. Check out this thread on Crucible Playbook for more info.

Serbian · 01-03-2016 12:14pm

OptimusTractor wrote: »

Half the impact but double the rate of fire. Even though I don't know why you'd want a sniper with that kind of setup.

This archetype of sniper is fine for 6v6 game modes. It can one hit kill with headshots, you can double tap very quickly, and there are no revives to worry about. The only reason I wouldn't go with a sniper like that is for consistency. I find it takes time to adapt when I move from sniper to sniper, so I try to run the same sniper rifle as often as possible.

01-03-2016 1:01pm

1000 Yard Stare is still better in 6v6 because you can bodyshot players who have taken a tiny amount of damage.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 01-03-2016 1:18pm

Serbian wrote: »

Decent roll. You should use Quickdraw rather than Snapshot on that gun. Quickdraw gives you improved ADS time as well as allowing you to draw the gun faster. Check out this thread on Crucible Playbook for more info.

Just had a look at it there, pretty interesting. I'll give it a go.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 03-03-2016 10:04am

Hey all,

Noticed on a few sniping videos and was also looking at /r/CruciblePlaybook - a lot of the guys who I would consider top snipers seem to have their look sensitivity turned way down.

I've been trying to up my look sensitivity to 6 or even 7, however it looks at though most snipers actually drop their sensitivity to 3 or maybe 4...

I'm guessing this has a lot to do with changing play styles - less blink shotgunning and more passive sniping.

SolvableKnave · 03-03-2016 10:46am

It makes sense I suppose. If your going to be focusing on long range combat, there's no real need to have your sensitivity up high.

For me, I've mine set to 5, as I'm a bit schizophrenic with my play style, depending on the map. Frontier I tend to snipe more often than not. Sector 618 and Drifter would be an AR and shotty. Overall I'd be more of a defensive player anyway.

Kimbot · 03-03-2016 10:47am

I have my sens up to about 5 and sometimes I find it a bit too high.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 03-03-2016 11:15am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

It makes sense I suppose. If your going to be focusing on long range combat, there's no real need to have your sensitivity up high.

It's something I've noticed alright, I tend to drag snipe a lot and with my sensitivity up so high it can make it pretty difficult.

Siad I'd buy Bloodborne so I've also just forked out for a set of Kontrol Freaks too

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 03-03-2016 11:16am

jonny24ie wrote: »

I have my sens up to about 5 and sometimes I find it a bit too high.

I was originally using 5 - but then I got too MLG for 5 :pac:

SolvableKnave · 03-03-2016 11:41am

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Siad I'd buy Bloodborne so I've also just forked out for a set of Kontrol Freaks too

Nice. I've the Galaxy ones and the KontrolFreek grips on one controller and the CQC Signature's on the second (Second controller is for the likes of Far Cry Primal). Using a controller with the KontrolFreeks just feels weird at this stage.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 03-03-2016 3:43pm

Was thinking of buying one of those Kontrol Freaks grips, I'm a former Xbox 360 user and the Xbox controllers are far more comfortable.

SolvableKnave · 03-03-2016 4:07pm

The grips are really comfortable. No more sweaty controller palm syndrome to worry about.

Next purchase is a scuff...:rolleyes:

Best vendor PvP sniper:

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