3-year-old boy raped at asylum centre in Norway- Mod warnings posts 338&356

speedboatchase

This horrendous story broke 17 hours ago, but as of this writing, there are just five news stories reporting it - including one link from the past five minutes.

Living away from Europe right now but very scared by some of the stories that keep cropping up regarding the seemingly uncontrolled refugee situation. And once again, another story that casts *some* refugees and migrants in a bad light is being buried.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634127/Horror-three-year-old-boy-raped-refugee-centre

Norwegian police have launched an investigation after receiving reports that a child had been sexually abused in the common area of a reception centre.

The incident is said to have taken place at the Forus Akuttinnkvartering centre in Stavanger on January 6.

Police superintendent Bjørn Kåre Dahl said: "We have no suspects yet.

"We are investigating the case as if the worst thing has happened and that we are talking about the rape of a child."

The boy was taken to the local rape crisis clinic with his mother and then to the children's ward at Stavanger University Hospital for further checks.

A spokesman for the centre, which is currently hosting 800 asylum-seekers, said they received a phone call about the incident but they did not see or hear anything.

Dahl continued: "We will investigate further to find out what happened. If it is what we fear – a rape – then this is very serious."

The alleged incident took place after Norway announced it was offering non-European asylum-seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in an attempt to prevent violence against women.

Linda Hagen of Hero, a private company that runs 40 percent of Norway's reception centres for refugees, said: "There's no single cultural code to say what is good or bad behaviour because we want a free society.

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

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Timberrrrrrrr

speedboatchase wrote: »

This horrendous story broke 17 hours ago, but as of this writing, there are just five news stories reporting it - including one link from the past five minutes.

Living away from Europe right now but very scared by some of the stories that keep cropping up regarding the seemingly uncontrolled refugee situation. And once again, another story that casts *some* refugees and migrants in a bad light is being buried.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634127/Horror-three-year-old-boy-raped-refugee-centre

Norwegian police have launched an investigation after receiving reports that a child had been sexually abused in the common area of a reception centre.

The incident is said to have taken place at the Forus Akuttinnkvartering centre in Stavanger on January 6.

Police superintendent Bjørn Kåre Dahl said: "We have no suspects yet.

"We are investigating the case as if the worst thing has happened and that we are talking about the rape of a child."

The boy was taken to the local rape crisis clinic with his mother and then to the children's ward at Stavanger University Hospital for further checks.

A spokesman for the centre, which is currently hosting 800 asylum-seekers, said they received a phone call about the incident but they did not see or hear anything.

Dahl continued: "We will investigate further to find out what happened. If it is what we fear – a rape – then this is very serious."

The alleged incident took place after Norway announced it was offering non-European asylum-seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in an attempt to prevent violence against women.

Linda Hagen of Hero, a private company that runs 40 percent of Norway's reception centres for refugees, said: "There's no single cultural code to say what is good or bad behaviour because we want a free society.

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

As long as idiots like her are given a platform to spout shite like this then we will always have a problem.

Drakares

Awaiting lefties coming to say the poor asylum seekers don't know any better.

strelok

did linda hagen say that after she had been asked for a comment about reported rape?

that seems pretty damn far out there, even for a 21st century progressive leftie

speedboatchase

strelok wrote: »

did linda hagen say that after she had been asked for a comment about reported rape?

that seems pretty damn far out there, even for a 21st century progressive leftie

Seems like the quotes are about a course in Norway that teaches new arrivals to not sexually assault people, and that's it's bad: http://www.thelocal.de/20160109/in-norway-migrants-get-courses-on-respecting-women

strelok

speedboatchase wrote: »

Seems like the quotes are about a course in Norway that teaches new arrivals to not sexually assault people, and that's it's bad: http://www.thelocal.de/20160109/in-norway-migrants-get-courses-on-respecting-women

yeah, so it's just about completely irrelevant to this story. just thrown in to make it seem like she got all relativistic about toddler rape.

There's pedophiles in every culture and religion. I mean, look at the Catholic religion ..

Victor

speedboatchase wrote: »

This horrendous story broke 17 hours ago, but as of this writing, there are just five news stories reporting it - including one link from the past five minutes.

If what is alleged is true, then that is a terrible thing. but just how much coverage do you expect on one incident? Do you realise that 20,000 children under the age of 5 die every day?

speedboatchase wrote: »

there are just five news stories reporting it

I've found lots


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634127/Horror-three-year-old-boy-raped-refugee-centre

http://www.thelocal.no/20160112/boy-3-possibly-raped-at-norway-asylum-centre-police

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3396107/Three-year-old-boy-raped-multiple-people-asylum-centre-Norway.html

http://www.newsbe.com/world/north-america/norwegian-3-year-old-raped-at-forus-asylum-centre-in-stavanger

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/taharrush-fun-muslims-gang-rape-3-year-old-at-eu-asylum-center-in-norway/

https://translate.google.ie/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Frogaland%2Fetterforsker-mulig-barnevoldtekt-pa-asylmottak-1.12746015&edit-text=

http://www.newsjs.com/no/disse-asyls%C3%B8kerne-bor-p%C3%A5-forus-akuttinnkvartering/

http://latestnews-uk.com/uk-news/norwegian-3yearold-raped-at-forus-asylum-centre-in-stavanger

http://www.patrika.tv/top-news/norwegian-3-year-old-raped-at-forus-asylum-centre-in-stavanger/

https://jenkers.com/en#!a=6569292

http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/2016/01/12/195193303/mistanke-om-voldtekt-av-gutt-pa-asylmottak-i-stavanger

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/krim/etterforsker-mulig-voldtekt-av-liten-gutt-paa-asylmottak-i-stavanger/a/23594827/



Google seems to use newsjs.com to get a lots of news stories in Norway, so a lot of links are resolving to it.

ceadaoin.

strelok wrote: »

yeah, so it's just about completely irrelevant to this story. just thrown in to make it seem like she got all relativistic about toddler rape.

Well I'm glad about that. I actually thought for a minute that a person said that about a 3 year old being raped.

iDave

speedboatchase wrote: »

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

Fcuking hell!!!!

speedboatchase

Victor wrote: »

If what is alleged is true, then that is a terrible thing. but just how much coverage do you expect on one incident? Do you realise that 20,000 children under the age of 5 die every day?

I've found lots


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634127/Horror-three-year-old-boy-raped-refugee-centre

http://www.thelocal.no/20160112/boy-3-possibly-raped-at-norway-asylum-centre-police

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3396107/Three-year-old-boy-raped-multiple-people-asylum-centre-Norway.html


https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/taharrush-fun-muslims-gang-rape-3-year-old-at-eu-asylum-center-in-norway/

https://translate.google.ie/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Frogaland%2Fetterforsker-mulig-barnevoldtekt-pa-asylmottak-1.12746015&edit-text=

http://www.newsjs.com/no/disse-asyls%C3%B8kerne-bor-p%C3%A5-forus-akuttinnkvartering/

http://latestnews-uk.com/uk-news/norwegian-3yearold-raped-at-forus-asylum-centre-in-stavanger

http://www.patrika.tv/top-news/norwegian-3-year-old-raped-at-forus-asylum-centre-in-stavanger/

Actually, just four English language sources on Google News when I wrote the OP: The Local, Daily Mail, Daily Express, Independent. I haven't heard of 'latestnews', nor did it show up on Google News. Also, another of your links was a blog and the rest are Norwegian.

My point is that since The Local.no broke the story in English 17 hours ago, less than a handful of English-language sources have picked it up. Hence 'buried'. I think considering asylum seekers/refugees in Europe was a huge hot button issue last week following the Cologne attacks, this would merit greater coverage.

Victor

speedboatchase wrote: »

Also, another of your links was a blog and the rest are Norwegian.

On what basis do you discount Norwegian news stories on something that happened in Norway?

iDave

Victor wrote: »

On what basis do you discount Norwegian news stories on something that happened in Norway?

What difference does it make. A 3 Year old was raped FFS.

speedboatchase

Victor wrote: »

On what basis do you discount Norwegian news stories on something that happened in Norway?

I think it's a fairly obvious assumption that such a story would have been major news in Norway. I was raising the point in the OP that this hasn't been picked up by international, English-language outlets, especially since there's been 17 hours since the first English-language version of the story broke.

xband

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

As long as idiots like her are given a platform to spout shite like this then we will always have a problem.

What she's doing is expressing the exact kind of attitude that will actually cause ghettoisation and extremely dangerous problems.

You cannot have two or three different approaches to the legal system. There's one national legal system in Norway, and you don't get to reinterpret it culturally.

Also, I'm not sure that her notion that this is 'culturally acceptable' in whatever (large number of cultures) she's talking about is even accurate. It's at best hugely patronising.

In a chaotic situation like that, you have to ensure adequate security for children and vulnerable adults.

conorhal

Deleted User wrote: »

There's pedophiles in every culture and religion. I mean, look at the Catholic religion ..

And there's whataboutery in every anemic excuse that the left has to offer...

Tell me when however that sex with a minor was a cultural norm outside the middle ages?

This has been an ongoing problem in asylum reception centers, and it's a problem here too that is being quietly swept under the carpet. There needs to be seperate reception centers for single men, unaccompanied minors and families, but we won't do it because that would be to acknowledge the problem. Instances of rape and abuse of women and unaccompanied minors is rife, as is their exploitation by criminal elements within such centers. But lets talk about the dead or dying Catholic Church instead.

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cowboyBuilder

[QUOTE=speedboatchpany

There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms.[/QUOTE]


What ???

She really said that ???

Palbear

Deleted User wrote: »

There's pedophiles in every culture and religion. I mean, look at the Catholic religion ..

I would also ask if this attack on the kid anything to do with religion at all?

My limited knowledge of Quran stuff suggests some of these idiots might have a warped logic that they are ok to rape slaves and possibly unmarried women but even their daft book doesn't extend to kids.

ceannair06

speedboatchase wrote: »

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

NO THERE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT!!!!!

You want to come here to be held ? Keep your barbaric "customs" to yourself.

Preferably stop coming here.

cowboyBuilder

Palbear wrote: »

I would also ask if this attack on the kid anything to do with religion at all?

My limited knowledge of Quran stuff suggests some of these idiots might have a warped logic that they are ok to rape slaves and possibly unmarried women but even their daft book doesn't extend to kids.

Well ... tell that to the beloved Prophet ..

seamus

speedboatchase wrote: »

Living away from Europe right now but very scared by some of the stories that keep cropping up regarding the seemingly uncontrolled refugee situation.

It's mostly scaremongering. There aren't violent refugees flooding the streets across Europe.

ceannair06

seamus wrote: »

It's mostly scaremongering. There aren't violent refugees flooding the streets across Europe.

Tell that to the Cologne women.

grindle

Linda Hagen of Hero wrote: »

"There's no single cultural code to say what is good or bad behaviour because we want a free society.

"There has to be tolerance for attitudes that may be seen as immoral by some traditional or religious norms."

I think people might be jumping the gun and misinterpreting what she's saying - maybe in a rush to be offended ye've missed the paragraph which preceded it and the context which was implied?

The alleged incident took place after Norway announced it was offering non-European asylum-seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in an attempt to prevent violence against women.

i.e. Some immigrants are taking classes in order to acclimatise to a more permissive society where a short skirt is not indicative of a woman ordering sex on demand. She's basically saying " Fuck your stupid traditional beliefs, you can't go around raping everybody." yet everybody seems to have read it as if she said "Raping kids is just the way it goes, who are we to challenge the strongly-felt beliefs of spiritually-inclined mouth-breathing retards?"

The point I'm making is that there's problems within every facet of society, before people leap on the Kick All Refugees Out bandwagon, which we all know will happen.

Palbear

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

Well ... tell that to the beloved Prophet ..

WTF ?

Penny Tration

That poor, poor baby Jesus Christ, I know there are plenty of terrible people in the world, but a three year old? It's just beyond sickening. That poor toddler must have been in agony

conorhal

Deleted User wrote: »

The point I'm making is that there's problems within every facet of society, before people leap on the Kick All Refugees Out bandwagon, which we all know will happen.

Some societies more then others, which is why we should not be importing such cultures:

http://womanstats.org/laststatics/combinedscaleandsanctionofrape20113.png

Neyite

Penny Tration wrote: »

That poor, poor baby Jesus Christ, I know there are plenty of terrible people in the world, but a three year old? It's just beyond sickening. That poor toddler must have been in agony

In a child that young, and that small, it can easily kill them. So whoever did it imo should be up for attempted murder.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Palbear wrote: »

WTF ?

From what I recall the good prophet was not adverse to a bit of kiddie fiddling.

Penny Tration

Neyite wrote: »

In a child that young, and that small, it can easily kill them. So whoever did it imo should be up for attempted murder.

That's what I was thinking tbh. as vile as it sounds, and as awful a comparison it is, most adults won't die from rape, because their bodies can kind of fit a forced entry from a penis. a 3 year old would have their body torn to shreds It's so sickening to even think about

MonkeyTennis

conorhal wrote: »

Some societies more then others, which is why we should not be importing such cultures:

http://womanstats.org/laststatics/combinedscaleandsanctionofrape20113.png

Judging by your logic, If I was french, I wouldnt want any Irish people in. Way too rapey.

speedboatchase

Deleted User wrote: »

The point I'm making is that there's problems within every facet of society, before people leap on the Kick All Refugees Out bandwagon, which we all know will happen.

True, but why willingly import problems from other societies? For example, the Cologne attacks were described as a "a completely new dimension of crime" by German authorities.

"Completely new" to Europe, but not in societies such as Pakistan or Egypt, and almost certainly a consequence to the overwhelming numbers of arrivals that are single men. At the very least, why not be smarter about who you are legally allowing to enter your society, such as Canada's policy only accepting families from Syria?

ceadaoin.

seamus wrote: »

It's mostly scaremongering. There aren't violent refugees flooding the streets across Europe.

Over 500 women in Cologne say otherwise. Not to mention all the other women assaulted in other cities on NYE

Palbear wrote: »

WTF ?

It is generally accepted that Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9. He was 53

conorhal

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Judging by your logic, If I was french, I wouldnt want any Irish people in. Way too rapey.

Perhaps they'd give us a pass on account of the fact that we're addressing the issue rather then institutionalizing it?

The Backwards Man

It's very refreshing to see so many right wingers suddenly showing so much interest in the freedoms of children and women.

MonkeyTennis

Well they should ban us until we sort it out.. right?

cowboyBuilder

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's very refreshing to see so many right wingers suddenly showing so much interest in the freedoms of children and women.

??

I'm absolutely pro choice always have been.

Sapphire3

I am all for helping people from war torn countries but after reading about what happened to the women in Germany on NYE, and now this. Enough is Enough, this makes me thoroughly sick! A 3 year old child FFS! There should be a zero tolerance policy for refugees who are child rapists...deport the f&ckin' paedos.

fedor.2.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's very refreshing to see so many right wingers suddenly showing so much interest in the freedoms of children and women.

What a strange post

Sapphire3

fedor.2. wrote: »

What a strange post

Very strange indeed!

seamus

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Over 500 women in Cologne say otherwise. Not to mention all the other women assaulted in other cities on NYE

A bizarre series of assaults of an unclear nature and by unknown perpetrators in a single city on a single night does not mean Europe is flooded with violent refugees.

"Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the immigrants refugees".

Seems that whenever anything bad happens these days, everyone is eager to find ways to blame it on refugees.

Palbear

Sapphire3 wrote: »

Very strange indeed!

Are right wingers the ones with the skinheads?

BoJack Horseman

seamus wrote: »

Seems that whenever anything bad happens these days, everyone is eager to find ways to blame it on refugees.

examples?

speedboatchase

seamus wrote: »

A bizarre series of assaults of an unclear nature and by unknown perpetrators in a single city on a single night does not mean Europe is flooded with violent refugees.

"Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the immigrants refugees".

Seems that whenever anything bad happens these days, everyone is eager to find ways to blame it on refugees.

Feel free to ignore the eye-witness reports and the descriptions of the attackers given by victims, if you feel it's politically convenient.

seamus

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

examples?

This thread is full of bad news reports, hearsay and rumours that blame lots of things on refugees: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057502025

Feel free to ignore the eye-witness reports and the descriptions of the attackers given by victims, if you feel it's politically convenient.

Not ignoring anything. Just stating the facts. I don't doubt the veracity of the eye-witness reports, just the spin that's been put on them.

BoJack Horseman

seamus wrote: »

This thread is full of bad news reports, hearsay and rumours that blame lots of things on refugees

Again.... Examples please seamus!

The Backwards Man

speedboatchase wrote: »

Feel free to ignore the eye-witness reports and the descriptions of the attackers given by victims, if you feel it's politically convenient.

Just like you've ignored the hundreds of stories of gangrape and sexual assault and paedophilia that are reported on throughout Europe every day to concentrate on one or two that are 'politically convenient'

You shouldn't start threads like this thinking people are unaware of your reasons for doing so.

seamus

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Again.... Examples please seamus!

Flick through the thread. This is AH, I'm entitled to make inflammatory hyperbolic statements without having to provide scientific citations.

Palbear

what reason would that be? I'm curious.

thattequilagirl

conorhal wrote: »

And there's whataboutery in every anemic excuse that the left has to offer...

Tell me when however that sex with a minor was a cultural norm outside the middle ages?
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It's not a cultural norm in the Middle East to have sex with minors. That's just not true.

This is a horrific crime, and whoever did it should feel the full force of the law, but to write off a religion of more than a billion people or a region of hundreds of millions based on it is disingenuous.

nokia69

That poor 3 year old has now been culturally enriched

Anyone who complains is a racist

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