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Why no Istanbul thread?

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  • 12-01-2016 4:39pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭


    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    Why is there no reaction here?

    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,969 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    It's an awful event. RIP to those who lost their lives and those injured.

    Thanks for starting a thread on it. Got there before me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    oh jesus, I thought we got over this "awful things happen outside france too" nonsense a few days after the paris attacks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Coz everyones sick of Turkey after Christmas


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    je suis Turkey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    So is this the Istanbul bombing thread then or is it about people not starting a thread about it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    mad muffin wrote: »
    je suis Turkey.

    It's Istanbul. And not Constantinople.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BlibBlab


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.

    Stop being ridiculous, we're a lot closer to France than Turkey


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    murpho999 wrote: »
    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    Why is there no reaction here?

    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.

    Because no-one gives a shit. Turkey is only in the EU to take this kind of crap before it gets as far as civilised people. They're falling down on the job, at that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BlibBlab wrote: »
    Stop being ridiculous, we're a lot closer to France than Turkey

    So French lives are worth more than those in Turkey?

    Also, it was mostly Western tourists killed today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Because no-one gives a shit. Turkey is only in the EU to take this kind of crap before it gets as far as civilised people. They're falling down on the job, at that.

    I must have been asleep the day Turkey joined the EU?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    There's no double standards or hypocrisy here. Turkey is no stranger to terrorist attacks - France is, which is why it's an infinitely bigger story when it happens somewhere like Paris.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I must have been asleep the day Turkey joined the EU?

    I do apologise. I mean of course the Eurovision Song Contest.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If we had a thread for every terrorist attack, then we'll be talking about nothing but. You didn't create threads about attacks in other countries, but you do with Turkey. Weird logic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭SuperGrover


    murpho999 wrote: »
    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    Why is there no reaction here?

    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.

    See, thing here is, it struck a chord with you because you have been there. Paris would probably have struck a chord with a lot more people here so that's why they would have started / contributed to a thread about the killings there.

    The same question could be put to you about any other atrocity in the world... e.g. are Afghan lives worth less than Turkish, etc. etc. ?

    It's human nature and you have shown that yourself in your OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    My news feed is alphabetical. Haven't got as far as 'T' yet, I'm only on 'H'

    I see Rupert Murdock is marrying that wagon Jerry Hall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    So what you're saying is that it resonated more strongly with you simply because you have a personal connection to the location. Chances are more people here have visited France than Turkey, it may be strange logic, but it seems you follow the same logic.

    Obviously the events in Turkey are tragic, just as they were in France.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭Figbiscuithead


    See, thing here is, it struck a chord with you because you have been there. Paris would probably have struck a chord with a lot more people here so that's why they would have started / contributed to a thread about the killings there.

    The same question could be put to you about any other atrocity in the world... e.g. are Afghan lives worth less than Turkish, etc. etc. ?

    It's human nature and you have shown that yourself in your OP.

    Exactly. What he have started a thread if he hadn't been there?

    Instead of starting a thread about no one starting a thread, why not just start a thread about the incident and be the one to start that thread?!

    (If you can tell me how many times I mentioned "thread" in this post, you win a prize.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    See, thing here is, it struck a chord with you because you have been there. Paris would probably have struck a chord with a lot more people here so that's why they would have started / contributed to a thread about the killings there.

    The same question could be put to you about any other atrocity in the world... e.g. are Afghan lives worth less than Turkish, etc. etc. ?

    It's human nature and you have shown that yourself in your OP.
    Knasher wrote: »
    So what you're saying is that it resonated more strongly with you simply because you have a personal connection to the location. Chances are more people here have visited France than Turkey, it may be strange logic, but it seems you follow the same logic.

    Obviously the events in Turkey are tragic, just as they were in France.

    Thousands of Irish people have been to Turkey and it is in Europe. Istanbul is a major city and a big tourist draw so I'm surprised at the apathy here.
    It is now confirmed that 9 of the dead are German. Is that too far away?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    murpho999 wrote: »
    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.
    .

    You just made it out by the skin of your teeth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,991 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Because we're racist and you occupy the moral high ground.

    (hopes that by telling OP what he wants to hear, OP will go away).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BlibBlab


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Thousands of Irish people have been to Turkey and it is in Europe. Istanbul is a major city and a big tourist draw so I'm surprised at the apathy here.
    It is now confirmed that 9 of the dead are German. Is that too far away?

    If two murders happened today, one in Dublin and one in London, which one do you think people in Ireland would be more interested in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭Figbiscuithead


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Thousands of Irish people have been to Turkey and it is in Europe. Istanbul is a major city and a big tourist draw so I'm surprised at the apathy here.
    It is now confirmed that 9 of the dead are German. Is that too far away?

    Could you not just have started a thread about the incident instead of complaining about a lack of thread? Somebody would have to start it so why not you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    BlibBlab wrote: »
    If two murders happened today, one in Dublin and one in London, which one do you think people in Ireland would be more interested in?

    Which one was on x factor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Could you not just have started a thread about the incident instead of complaining about a lack of thread? Somebody had to start it so why not you?

    Because it would reduce the opportunity for a bit of whataboutery delivered from the saddle of ones high horse would be my guess?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Thousands of Irish people have been to Turkey and it is in Europe. Istanbul is a major city and a big tourist draw so I'm surprised at the apathy here.
    It is now confirmed that 9 of the dead are German. Is that too far away?

    Now your talking my kind of deaths. RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭mynameis905


    There is something very strange going on with the several recent bombings in Turkey. If it is indeed ISIS as Erdogan is claiming, why do they seem to be able to manage huge bombings in Turkey yet their attacks elsewhere are limited to rudimentary suicide shootings like the one in Paris?

    The cynic in me thinks that it's a false flag by Erdogan so he can continue his crackdown on the kurds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    murpho999 wrote: »
    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    Why is there no reaction here?

    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.
    The way you phrase the last two sentences it's as if there was a deliberate decision agreed by the rest of us not to start a thread on it. :)

    And also you're putting words in people's mouths - nobody said Turkish lives are worth less than French ones (France, especially Paris, is an extremely multi ethnic country too), of course they aren't.

    You kinda answered your own question by mentioning that the attack in Istanbul resonated with you due to you being there recently - resonance is the exact reason why there isn't exactly equal coverage given to all atrocities. It's unfortunate but there's no deliberate intention among news consumers (maybe among media itself) to focus more on one than the other.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BlibBlab wrote: »
    If two murders happened today, one in Dublin and one in London, which one do you think people in Ireland would be more interested in?

    Bit of a difference between a murder and an international terrorist incident.
    Stark wrote: »
    Because we're racist and you occupy the moral high ground.

    (hopes that by telling OP what he wants to hear, OP will go away).

    I'm not taking any high ground just surprised at the lack of discussion here about it.
    Also, even if I went away the thread would still be here.
    Could you not just have started a thread about the incident instead of complaining about a lack of thread? Somebody would have to start it so why not you?

    I was just wondering why non one seems to care about this incident. Istanbul is a major international city not a backwater somewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    murpho999 wrote: »
    A suicide bomber killed ten people in the tourist centre of Istanbul today.

    Struck a chord with me as I was on that square last April.

    Why is there no reaction here?

    Just because it happened in Turkey and not France then it doesn't warrant a thread? Strange logic.
    You know you could just have started one without the guilt-tripping.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    why do they seem to be able to manage huge bombings in Turkey yet their attacks elsewhere are limited to rudimentary suicide shootings like the one in Paris?
    Turkey shares a land border with Syria and Iraq.


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