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So, what is Retro anyway?

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  • #32
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    For me retro is SNES era and earlier, with the first PlayStation being on the border.


  • #33
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I think it also can mean that it's hard to see consoles you bought at launch as retro.
    Unfortunately that means everything from the ZX Spectrum onwards is, at one stage or another, current gen!

    I wonder about the experience of some of you, who came to the videogame scene later, who got to look back on machines like the Megadrive and Snes as consoles that were already superseded by the time they came to games with the advent of the PS or even PS2.


  • #34
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    I would also like to see that stat.
    I started with c64 so everything from there to ps2 is retro for me.

    Who drags up this topic, its confusing...


  • #35
    Linoud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Linoud


    I'd consider PS1/N64 era as Retro, since I can remember when they came out as a kid. PS2/Gamecube feels too recent, even though it has been 15 odd years or so someone said? :p I'll probably consider it as retro in a few more years though. Feels odd to say a console that is two generations behind and I still see games being sold in stores for is retro.

    I guess when a platform is phased out of typical game stores, I'd consider it more retro? I dunno.

    I don't think quality of a game determines retro status or not, just age.


  • #36
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Good point, when its not available in the stores.

    Although i think they dont sell Wii games anymore, only Wii U. Maybe they dont manufacture them.


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  • #37
    Linoud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Linoud


    Gamestop and CEX still have an abundance of Wii and DS titles. They're generally throw on the same shelves as the WiiU ones since they don't get much stock in for them it seems, least the Tallaght stores don't. Town is sometimes similar.

    But yeah, I see PS2 and Xbox originals in CEX all the time, so maybe that's why I don't think they're retro yet.


  • #38
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭Doge


    eddhorse wrote: »
    Good point, when its not available in the stores.

    Although i think they dont sell Wii games anymore, only Wii U. Maybe they dont manufacture them.

    146852.jpg

    Thats one I saw popup recently online!


  • #39
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Doge wrote: »
    146852.jpg

    Thats one I saw popup recently online!

    You and your dance games !!


  • #40
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭Doge


    eddhorse wrote: »
    You and your dance games !!



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  • #41
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Doge wrote: »
    aM1KOLA_460sa_zpsb3338636.gif~c200

    I....I....I....just dont know what to say


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  • #42
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retro at this point is often those games you owned as a child, so they are infused with nostalgia.
    The retro we speak of here abouts tends to be that subset of such games that are actually damn fine titles in their own right, be it Tetris on the Gameboy, Speedball 2 on the Megadrive, Sensible Soccer on the Amiga or Galaga in the arcade.


  • #43
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    What about the likes of Mario Maker, Shovel Knight or Axiom Verge that have retro elements?


  • #44
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,846 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    eddhorse wrote: »
    What about the likes of Mario Maker, Shovel Knight or Axiom Verge that have retro elements?

    They're new games. Graphics don't make a game retro.


  • #45
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,053 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    They're new games. Graphics don't make a game retro.

    Its an interesting point though as they're 'retro styled' - kind of like how you get modern furniture etc that's styled after stuff from say, the 50's - which is considered retro.

    Tbh its a silly non discript term which I reckon will eventually (and hopefully) die out.

    The word 'classic' is far better and apt IMO.


  • #46
    Steve X2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,918 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    eddhorse wrote: »
    What about the likes of Mario Maker, Shovel Knight or Axiom Verge that have retro elements?

    Retro style, not retro.


  • #47
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The word 'classic' is far better and apt IMO.

    Arcade and Classic forum it is...:D


  • #48
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Games such as Mario Maker and Shovel Knight celebrate the visuals, sounds and gameplay of older titles, for different reasons, though for the same end goal.
    The reasons for Nintendo to do it is to reframe trends in hacking Mario platformers into "new" challenges and handing that power to the player, making the experience a game in itself. They also get to celebrate their legacy and generate a new IP without heavy investment into new assets, although there is certainly a lot of design in the background to make it all work.
    Shovel Knight then takes classic Megaman and other scrolling platformers on the NES and rebuilds them using the best elements of the old and also using the best that the new has to offer, so you have a beautiful art style and sounds coupled with a modern approach to character death and development.
    Both titles have the same goal, to make themselves relevant and popular with a modern audience, which they both have.

    I have my doubts that, when Nintendo turn the Mario Maker servers off, it'll still be worth owning.
    But Shovel Knight, especially the physical formats, could be played and appreciated in 30 years time still.


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