Sugar Crash on Rté what a load of

pepe silvia

Anyone watch sugar crash with Eva Orsomond on Rté? They dramatically said sugar is killing more people than the famine did, compared it to smoking and showed a family who cut down on sugar for a month magically become way healthier in just four weeks!

That Eva one was the expert is extremely annoying, she left operation transformation after she was a complete bi*tch to one of the people trying to lose weight.

Very bad programming out of rte to give her her own show to spread this shiite I think.

TheChizler

Important message but that Eva is way too hyperbolic at times. I've never been able to figure out just what type of doctor she is either...

I'm always a bit wary of nutritionists and the like, a-la Dara O'Briain, they give the right message in general but they tend to over complicate and medicalise what is really pretty simple.

Atlantic Dawn

What famine?

SusieZoom

Anything RTE does is just a copycat of British networks such as Channel 4. Channel 4's shows on sugar are of much more better quality.

Every time she says "the Irish" it's like nails on a black board to me. They really set out to scare the be'jasus out people rightly so but coming from her it couldn't be anymore condescending :mad:

brevity

Whatever about the program itself, abusing sugar is definitely a problem all over the world so its good to make people aware.

Jamie Oliver's program a few months ago was quite good as well.

I'd wager in a few years drinking a can of normal coke will have a the same stigma as smoking does now.

screamer

Horrible narrator I had to turn it off her voice was grating on me.

neckedit

pepe silvia wrote: »

Anyone watch sugar crash with Eva Orsomond on Rté? They dramatically said sugar is killing more people than the famine did, compared it to smoking and showed a family who cut down on sugar for a month magically become way healthier in just four weeks!

That Eva one was the expert is extremely annoying, she left operation transformation after she was a complete bi*tch to one of the people trying to lose weight.

Very bad programming out of rte to give her her own show to spread this shiite I think.

Try it yourself and see the difference.
From a Diabetic who had to kick sugar to the kerb.

BlibBlab

It was poorly done, but sugar is a massive problem. If it encourages some people to cut down then all the better. Op, I think you need to look up the effects of sugar on our health and wellbeing if you think it's trivial

An Claidheamh

SusieZoom wrote: »

Anything RTE does is just a copycat of British networks such as Channel 4. Channel 4's shows on sugar are of much more better quality.

No they're not.

They're both similar.

#begrudgery

pepe silvia

Well the show itself was terrible attempting to use dramatic music and 'experts' spouting very questionable information. Aside from that I think all these 'sugar is the devil' shows are actually actually harmful.

They actually said on the show tonight there was a demonisation of fat in foods in the 80's. That actually led to more sugar in foods which now is the next big topic for these quacks.

We get energy from sugars and fats..there's a reason they taste nice, our body craves them for their energy.

Extreme consumption obviously is bad with any food, but if they take sugar aswell as all the fat they've already taken out of our foods, where will we get quick and cheap energy? From un-natural sources made in labs?

pepe silvia

pepe silvia wrote: »

Well the show itself was terrible attempting to use dramatic music and 'experts' spouting very questionable information. Aside from that I think all these 'sugar is the devil' shows are actually actually harmful.

They actually said on the show tonight there was a demonisation of fat in foods in the 80's. That actually led to more sugar in foods which now is the next big topic for these quacks.

We get energy from sugars and fats..there's a reason they taste nice, our body craves them for their energy.

Extreme consumption obviously is bad with any food, but if they take sugar aswell as all the fat they've already taken out of our foods, where will we get quick and cheap energy? From un-natural sources made in labs?

soylent green is the only answer

Dial Hard

pepe silvia wrote:

Extreme consumption obviously is bad with any food, but if they take sugar aswell as all the fat they've already taken out of our foods, where will we get quick and cheap energy? From un-natural sources made in labs?

Not really a discussion for the TV forum but we shouldn't really be eating anything "they've" interfered with much at all.

Fancy a curry? Make it from scratch rather than getting it from a jar or packet. Same goes for pretty much everything.

Pinch Flat

There's a massive problem here, you only have to look around to see it. Look at any archive on Irish tv even going back 15 or so years and observe the amount of thinner people. Our diet has gone to sh!te in the past while and if it takes someone like dr Eva to get the message home, much as she grates on me, then so be it. Sometimes people don't like some home truths.

pepe silvia

BlibBlab wrote: »

It was poorly done, but sugar is a massive problem. If it encourages some people to cut down then all the better. Op, I think you need to look up the effects of sugar on our health and wellbeing if you think it's trivial

Well I have done some research on the subject. In my opinion it is over-emphasised and lack of physical exercise is a much bigger problem.

Would you also be in favour of telling children that if they smoke weed they will turn into heroin addicts as has been done in the past? If it stops some of them developing drug problems would it be worth it?

mzungu

Anything that raises awareness about the abundance of sugar in everyday food products is a good thing in my book. Granted the BBC and Channel 4 do it better, but shows like this are to be welcomed. A lot of the public are uninformed when it comes to these things.

Dial Hard

Diet has a far, far bigger effect on health and weight than exercise, which any meaningful research would tell you. There's a reason for the phrase "You can't outrun a bad diet".

But, again, we're wandering far out of the remit of the TV forum.

sideswipe

pepe silvia wrote: »

Anyone watch sugar crash with Eva Orsomond on Rté? They dramatically said sugar is killing more people than the famine did, compared it to smoking and showed a family who cut down on sugar for a month magically become way healthier in just four weeks!

That Eva one was the expert is extremely annoying, she left operation transformation after she was a complete bi*tch to one of the people trying to lose weight.

Very bad programming out of rte to give her her own show to spread this shiite I think.

Don't shoot the messenger.........no matter how bloody annoying they are.

The message is an important one none the less- watch Fedup on Netflix, very good account of the problem and 100% Dr Eva free!

PokeHerKing

pepe silvia wrote:

Extreme consumption obviously is bad with any food, but if they take sugar aswell as all the fat they've already taken out of our foods, where will we get quick and cheap energy? From un-natural sources made in labs?

OP read this paragraph over and over again and you may eventually see the irony. I hope.

quadrifoglio verde

Pinch Flat wrote: »

There's a massive problem here, you only have to look around to see it. Look at any archive on Irish tv even going back 15 or so years and observe the amount of thinner people. Our diet has gone to sh!te in the past while and if it takes someone like dr Eva to get the message home, much as she grates on her, then so be it. Sometimes people don't like some home truths.

I was in Brussels a few weeks ago and for the first time being skinny felt normal.
Very few fat people that I could see and those that were fat were the equivalent of an average Irish male. Overweight but the minority

pepe silvia

neckedit wrote: »

Try it yourself and see the difference.
From a Diabetic who had to kick sugar to the kerb.

In fairness its surely different for a diabetic. Is that not like a lactose intolerant person telling other people they should stop drinking milk?

paidinmhaire

I think the programmes message is timely. The scientific and medical evidence of the harmfulness of excess consumption of refined sugars added to our diets is indisputable.
I think it worthwhile to take note of the academic qualifications of most of the contributors to the show, all of whom were giving the same message.

For anyone with an interest in the topic and an appetite(!) for a little more science, you could do worse than picking up a recent book by one of the contributors, Dr. Robert Lustig.
He's a paediatric endocrinologist from the U.S. with what seems like a passionate interest in the issue of obesity and he has led much of the opposition to the formidable food/sugar lobby's worldwide. The books called "Fat Chance: the bitter truth about sugar".

ezra_pound

pepe silvia wrote: »

Anyone watch sugar crash with Eva Orsomond on Rté? They dramatically said sugar is killing more people than the famine did, compared it to smoking and showed a family who cut down on sugar for a month magically become way healthier in just four weeks!

That Eva one was the expert is extremely annoying, she left operation transformation after she was a complete bi*tch to one of the people trying to lose weight.

Very bad programming out of rte to give her her own show to spread this shiite I think.

Eh, she made the point that now more People are dying from obesity than famine in the world. This is an interesting fact in fairness. She never mentioned the famine or a famine... Just famine.

We need more of this. The amount of people drip feeding their kids juice and eating low fat yogurt thinking they're making healthy choices is disturbing. Also something needs to be done about our sugar and obesity crises.

ezra_pound

pepe silvia wrote: »

Well the show itself was terrible attempting to use dramatic music and 'experts' spouting very questionable information. Aside from that I think all these 'sugar is the devil' shows are actually actually harmful.

They actually said on the show tonight there was a demonisation of fat in foods in the 80's. That actually led to more sugar in foods which now is the next big topic for these quacks.

We get energy from sugars and fats..there's a reason they taste nice, our body craves them for their energy.

Extreme consumption obviously is bad with any food, but if they take sugar aswell as all the fat they've already taken out of our foods, where will we get quick and cheap energy? From un-natural sources made in labs?

Where did your grandmother get her energy from? Before fat was demonized and food was mass produced processed sugary glop. You know, when people were skinnier and healthier.

Clue: three letters starts with f.

Cerveja

The message of the show is good but Eva Orsomond has an awful voice (at times sounding like Bosco), made it hard for me to stick with the show.

pepe silvia

ezra_pound wrote: »

Where did your grandmother get her energy from? Before fat was demonized and food was mass produced processed sugary glop. You know, when people were skinnier and healthier.

Clue: three letters starts with f.

Thats my point..fat was wrongfully demonized the same as sugar is now.

The World health organisation also said pork products cause cancer..if there was equally dramatic show on rte telling people to stop eating sausages i dont think it would be as well received as the anti sugar message is here and rightfully so, i dont think we should stop eating either

BlibBlab

BlibBlab wrote: »

It was poorly done, but sugar is a massive problem. If it encourages some people to cut down then all the better. Op, I think you need to look up the effects of sugar on our health and wellbeing if you think it's trivial

TBH I think it was excellent and should be compulsive viewing for those who are obese, overweight, have diabetes, high cholesterol and who have kids .....that covers most of us! I use only about 1 kg bag of sugar a year, ....I put it in nothing ....yet it's in almost everything 😡😡

Nesta99

An Claidheamh wrote: »

No they're not.

They're both similar.

#begrudgery

Ha! Living in the UK and working for the NHS the same kind of comments on such programs gets passed. I always worry a bit about scaremongering - it happens so often that the important message gets lost; From Edwina Curry and the 'eggs' scare, to the afore mentioned fat, types of carbs, even alcohol. People get danger-info fatigue!

Education in moderation is the only way. Maybe crank it up slowly over time as tell someone how little they consume weekly means concern about alcoholism, for example, no matter how scientific, dramatic quotas loses attention.

It is also foolish to look to past consumption trends as a panacea for public health as not all was good. Back to CHD in Ireland with the morning fry up 7 days a week.

Anybody catch the school in Louth that featured?

Without tobacco/cigarette type regulation all these things are a tough to push! especially to people already in mindsets. Change is needed via the youngest up and with free pre-school at 3 yrs old now at least education can intervene early enough if the public and by extension political will is there.

Scary if nothing changes as we and our children will be carrying a very very heavy healthcare burden (on top of an aging population as it is).

pepe silvia

pepe silvia wrote: »

In fairness its surely different for a diabetic. Is that not like a lactose intolerant person telling other people they should stop drinking milk?

The poster is trying to stop you getting diabetes in the first place!! People only hear what they want to hear " it'll never happen to me" !!! Too easy to keep shovelling in the sugar !

pepe silvia

[Deleted User] wrote: »

TBH I think it was excellent and should be compulsive viewing for those who are obese, overweight, have diabetes, high cholesterol and who have kids .....that covers most of us! I use only about 1 kg bag of sugar a year, ....I put it in nothing ....yet it's in almost everything 😡😡

I know people who would use half a kilo of sugar a day and they have none of those problems, and play sport to a decent standard.

I know in excess (i dont mean excess as in just over the recommended daily amount,id say 10 times that) it is a factor but why is sugar being singled out as the cause to every health problem

garden

Thought the program was a ripoff of The Truth About Sugar which i watched on youtube however a lot of people wouldn't go out of their way to sit down and watch such a program online (and it was awful boring).

Having these type of programs on a prime time slot will reach a greater audience and thats what we need.

I would have like to have known in more detail what changes the Ryan family made. I don't buy juices, yoghurts, jars etc. but am struggling to fill up the lunch boxes and offer varity.

paidinmhaire

Nesta99 wrote: »

Ha! Living in the UK and working for the NHS the same kind of comments on such programs gets passed. I always worry a bit about scaremongering - it happens so often that the important message gets lost; From Edwina Curry and the 'eggs' scare, to the afore mentioned fat, types of carbs, even alcohol. People get danger-info fatigue!

Education in moderation is the only way. Maybe crank it up slowly over time as tell someone how little they consume weekly means concern about alcoholism, for example, no matter how scientific, dramatic quotas loses attention.

It is also foolish to look to past consumption trends as a panacea for public health as not all was good. Back to CHD in Ireland with the morning fry up 7 days a week.

Anybody catch the school in Louth that featured?

Without tobacco/cigarette type regulation all these things are a tough to push! especially to people already in mindsets. Change is needed via the youngest up and with free pre-school at 3 yrs old now at least education can intervene early enough if the public and by extension political will is there.

Scary if nothing changes as we and our children will be carrying a very very heavy healthcare burden (on top of an aging population as it is).

Social Naomh Colmchille, Togher, co. Louth I think

pepe silvia

pepe silvia wrote: »

I know people who would use half a kilo of sugar a day and they have none of those problems, and play sport to a decent standard.

I know in excess (i dont mean excess as in just over the recommended daily amount,id say 10 times that) it is a factor but why is sugar being singled out as the cause to every health problem

Half a kilo of sugar a day .....are you serious??

You don't have to be fat to have health issues from that level of sugar intake ....maybe not now but in the future. Type 2 diabetic is at epidemic levels and many of those who have it are young and not fat ! Educate yourself on the subject. This was pointed out in the programme ....the fact you are storing up problems for your future ...like the man with both legs amputated, was almost blind and had a liver transplant .....he wasn't even fat ....(what was left of him). It's a silent health hazard and especially scary when you see kids consuming that much 😱

paidinmhaire

paidinmhaire wrote: »

Scoil Naomh Colmchille, Togher, co. Louth I think

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NIMAN

Lots of these types of shows around these days, and they all do an awful pile of padding to get 1hr or whatever out of them.

There was one on British TV last week, 2 male twin doctors did an experiment where one had a high sugar/low fat diet for a month, the other had a high fat/low sugar diet.

In the end, it was discovered that both weren't great for you, and equally as bad.

But the big discovery revealed at the end after all the padding, was that a diet with a mix of fat and sugar was the worst !

No sh*t Sherlock.

colossus-x

pepe silvia wrote: »

Well I have done some research on the subject. In my opinion it is over-emphasised and lack of physical exercise is a much bigger problem.

The primary function of physical exercise is to exercise your cardiovascular system ie your heart and lungs. Burning calories through exercise , which may come from the fat stored in your body - is incidental, albeit welcome for some. Lean people don't stop doing cardio because they've no fat to burn. There is no merit in eating excess calories only to go running to burn off the calories you've just eaten.

When it comes to health what you consume is most critical. Exercise is important too but you could get away with doing nothing but the occasional walk as long as you eat right. Hydrogenated fat and high fructose corn syrup ( sugar ) are lethal. They cause so many problems aside from just putting on weight.

pepe silvia wrote: »

In fairness its surely different for a diabetic. Is that not like a lactose intolerant person telling other people they should stop drinking milk?

This comment is embarrassing. Your ill-informed to say the least. How to you think one becomes diabetic?

paidinmhaire

pepe silvia wrote: »

I know people who would use half a kilo of sugar a day and they have none of those problems, and play sport to a decent standard.

I know in excess (i dont mean excess as in just over the recommended daily amount,id say 10 times that) it is a factor but why is sugar being singled out as the cause to every health problem

Anyone using that level of sugar daily is storing up some extremely serious health issues for the future. In this context the playing of sport at any standard is irrelevant.

how hard it is to meet the WHO limits vs whats on sale and I mean everyday stuff not obvious high sugar stuff ? the scene of the woman shopping and almost forensically checking labels wasn't far from the truth and this show didn't even get into salt or other problems we have with our food.

It's at the point now were each product on it's own is ok or fine once in a while but combined :eek: and they will all say as part of a balanced diet, to the point were supermarkets need a "you'll find it in the tastes like sh1t isle but won't kill you"

Edit: The breakfast cereal example was good, but even if you ditch the sugary ones, the rest all have insane amounts of salt in them.

ThisRegard

NIMAN wrote: »

Lots of these types of shows around these days, and they all do an awful pile of padding to get 1hr or whatever out of them.

There was one on British TV last week, 2 male twin doctors did an experiment where one had a high sugar/low fat diet for a month, the other had a high fat/low sugar diet.

In the end, it was discovered that both weren't great for you, and equally as bad.

But the big discovery revealed at the end after all the padding, was that a diet with a mix of fat and sugar was the worst !

No sh*t Sherlock.

That documentary is a year or two old, and I think you missed the point of it.

newacc2015

NIMAN wrote: »

Lots of these types of shows around these days, and they all do an awful pile of padding to get 1hr or whatever out of them.

There was one on British TV last week, 2 male twin doctors did an experiment where one had a high sugar/low fat diet for a month, the other had a high fat/low sugar diet.

In the end, it was discovered that both weren't great for you, and equally as bad.

But the big discovery revealed at the end after all the padding, was that a diet with a mix of fat and sugar was the worst !

No sh*t Sherlock.

This is why I think TV, particularly relatively low budget RTE is ****ed in the future. You can go onto youtube and watch a TED talk or any clip. Where in 10-15 mins an expert will give you a humourous entirely fact based discussion on smoking, sugar, drug trafficking or violence.

There is no uneducated family put on the stage for 15-20 mins to belittle them about how little they know about the topic. There is no random walk around the supermarket and presenting pretending to discover how much sugar is in a can of coke.

Instead of getting an expert from the likes of the NY Times, like Michael Moss who has written excellent book called "sugar, salt and fat". RTE will put on some Irish "expert", who uses more buzzwords than facts and you gain nothing from it.

Sugar, Salt and Fat is scary to read. Such as Phillip Morris aka Marlboro used tactics they learned to sell cigarettes to children to sell process food to children

Here is a good long clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2auTOPUxE

Nesta99

Thanks paidinmahire it wasnt a Dundalk or Drogheda school anyway accent wise lol.

Is it really that hard for people to get that it is simple science and math in the end. Anything in excess is bad, balance is good, some stuff is better or worse than other. 30 mins of activity that gets the CV system working above resting level is great. Consume in and around the food that is needed (if people want to use calories as a guide so be it). Detox fads, teas, diets are bs - the liver is pretty good at it already. Sugar, to use the substance in question, gets regulated nicely by bits of the pancreas if it isnt overwhelmed. Nothing wrong with the old spuds et al as longs as it isnt heaped on a plate with feck all else. The old 7 a day isnt that tough either with a bit of cop (not boiled to death carrots).

Apple juice got a bit of a hammering on the program tonight - probably as parents deciding not to allow the kids fizzy drinks thinking the juice is healthy or healthier. FFS water is a contentious issue as bottles it can be loaded with sodium/potassium(salt) never mind the ethical and environmental impact. Plastic flasks we used as kids with hot fluid in them were supposed to be bad too. Break the glass in a proper flask and there was grief of sorts; so stainless steel flasks with tap water that isnt free anymore...dont mention the war. Fluidisation good or bad well damned if I know but my folks are plugging away in their 70's. Ok im getting in to a rant now so a final words: Clarity on food packaging that cant be manipulated to bamboozle, confuse, or mislead. The one part that resonated with me was the different names for sugars and all else in the ingredients sections of products. Also for sporty people why spend money on 'sports' drinks when room temperature water with a pinch of salt and glucose *cough* does the same job.

dialer

Deleted User wrote:

soylent green is the only answer

Gotta love peoples imagination.

I once herd Stephen Baldwin explain to a guest years ago, that by adding sugar to a mug of brew was like 'death in a tea cup'.

Made me think.

neckedit

pepe silvia wrote: »

In fairness its surely different for a diabetic. Is that not like a lactose intolerant person telling other people they should stop drinking milk?

No it's not, I an type 2 Diabetic, Thankfully caught early and Not medicating, Diet control only. I became diabetic due to eating the wrong high sugar diet and a sedentary life style, Which is becoming more common unfortunately. As I said earlier try a low sugar or no added sugar diet for a month, and see the difference, it's quite the eye opener.

Ceist_Beag

pepe silvia wrote: »

I know people who would use half a kilo of sugar a day and they have none of those problems, and play sport to a decent standard.

I know in excess (i dont mean excess as in just over the recommended daily amount,id say 10 times that) it is a factor but why is sugar being singled out as the cause to every health problem

You really are in denial! If what you say is true (half a kilo = 125 teaspoons) then those people you know are consuming far in excess of the recommended daily amount (i.e. >20 times that) so you are in complete contradication here - either you think half a kilo is excess and those people you know are in trouble or you are in denial.
BTW how on earth do you know if they have none of these problems - have you performed any tests on them? The problem could well go undetected until the damage is done.

HeidiHeidi

sideswipe wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger.........no matter how bloody annoying they are.

The message is an important one none the less- watch Fedup on Netflix, very good account of the problem and 100% Dr Eva free!

Cerveja wrote: »

The message of the show is good but Eva Orsomond has an awful voice (at times sounding like Bosco), made it hard for me to stick with the show.

The messenger is precisely the reason I DIDN'T watch this show, as good as I'm sure the message was.

Can't abide that woman (or, more correctly, her manner on TV/radio - I don't know her at all so the first statement is unfair).

newacc2015

newacc2015 wrote: »

This is why I think TV, particularly relatively low budget RTE is ****ed in the future. You can go onto youtube and watch a TED talk or any clip. Where in 10-15 mins an expert will give you a humourous entirely fact based discussion on smoking, sugar, drug trafficking or violence.

There is no uneducated family put on the stage for 15-20 mins to belittle them about how little they know about the topic. There is no random walk around the supermarket and presenting pretending to discover how much sugar is in a can of coke.

Instead of getting an expert from the likes of the NY Times, like Michael Moss who has written excellent book called "sugar, salt and fat". RTE will put on some Irish "expert", who uses more buzzwords than facts and you gain nothing from it.

Sugar, Salt and Fat is scary to read. Such as Phillip Morris aka Marlboro used tactics they learned to sell cigarettes to children to sell process food to children

Here is a good long clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2auTOPUxE

Yes. But having programmes like this on at peak time on the national broadcaster is surely hitting a far wider audience than YouTube clips.
Whether you like the presenter or not the message is crucially important !!

MayoForSam

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but big business has been gradually adding higher levels of fructose to our diet and making most of us addicted to the stuff over the years and it's not good for you at all. There are many parallels to be drawn with what the tobacco companies were doing 40 years ago. Fructose is very cheap to produce and is added to nearly all fizzy drinks, fruit juices, etc. We hardly every buy Coke or similar drinks in our house because if they're available, the kids will glug them back. Plain water, maybe with a small amount of added cordial, is way healthier. I have also gone off so-called 'low fat' foods e.g. yoghurts, as they are laced with sugar. Fruit (or smoothies) is the way to go.

Maybe RTE were jumping on the health bandwagon, especially around this time of year, and Dr. Eva may look like Barbie with a weird accent, but you can't fault the message.

If you want to watch a fantastic documentary on sugar - watch Fed Up on netflix. Cannot recommend it enough. A real eye opener and you realise quickly that education is the key to the obesity problem. Mothers buying everything "low fat" for their overweight children because that's what they've been sold by media and marketing as being the right thing to do.

I have this particular show recorded, but I can't stand Eva Orsmonde so I might just give it a miss. I know already that sugar is not good for you - but ice cream.

Macy0161

MayoForSam wrote: »

I have also gone off so-called 'low fat' foods e.g. yoghurts, as they are laced with sugar. Fruit (or smoothies) is the way to go.

Some are - you just have to check. There's two issues - the added sugar, and then the labeling that allows you to identify them. Personally I have a bigger issue with the labeling (not just around sugar tbh).

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

If you want to watch a fantastic documentary on sugar - watch Fed Up on netflix. Cannot recommend it enough. A real eye opener and you realise quickly that education is the key to the obesity problem. Mothers buying everything "low fat" for their overweight children because that's what they've been sold by media and marketing as being the right thing to do.

I have this particular show recorded, but I can't stand Eva Orsmonde so I might just give it a miss. I know already that sugar is not good for you - but ice cream.

Even if you know your stuff you should watch this programme!
I also don't like Dr Eva and her voice is grating .....I also know my stuff about nutrition and hidden sugars . But Sugar Crash was brilliant ......totally reinforced my resolve to ditch as much as sugar as possible .

Funny I noticed that as I ate some Cadburys Roses over Christmas I felt awful about 30 mins later and for the rest of the day . Groggy, tired, irritable.....
Usually I avoid sugar so my diet is pretty clean ......it really struck me this Christmas how sick any sugar was making me feel .

Ceist_Beag

Quick question to those in the know. Is there a difference in counting the sugars in natural products versus added sugar in processed products? e.g. we have porridge each morning (made with 50% milk) and add a spoon of honey to each bowl. If I count the sugars in the milk and honey it almost comes to 2 teaspoons per portion (honey shows as 67% sugars). Is this the same as added sugar (so in effect are we giving the children two thirds of their recommended daily limit in this breakfast)? If not, how do you count natural sugars such as these towards the daily total?