My HOTD3 journey

FixitFelix

So i finally took time out to wire everything up (been too lazy before now). I switched the power on and machine made all the right noises until the psu started sounding like a 747 taking off, i turned the power off after about 20 seconds and now the psu doesnt power up.
When i turn the power on now i hear the monitor click on and then click off staright away.
Is the psu fried?? Mitch did say this might be the case. Would the monitor in these turn off if there was no signal going to it, like some pc monitors do?

Cheers

havent a clue.
Got some pics?
I'd check all the fuses first.
Then I'd check all the voltages on the psu outputs.

eddhorse

Ah thats nasty.

Gotta check the voltages although you have to turn it on for that.

Pics would be great as im nosey.

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Ah thats nasty.

Gotta check the voltages although you have to turn it on for that.

Pics would be great as im nosey.

Will upload some tomorrow, i did notice when the power supply was working there was no lights etc from the chihiro, maybe it wasn't running long enough??

eddhorse

FixitFelix wrote: »

Will upload some tomorrow, i did notice when the power supply was working there was no lights etc from the chihiro, maybe it wasn't running long enough??

Not sure on that one, might be best to post on J+ or UKVac as well.

I presume you have the manual.
http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade//Manual/formated/The_House_of_the_Dead_III_-_2002_-_Sega.pdf

FixitFelix

So finally got a chance to put my new psu in this and fired it up, im getting power to the the start buttons and fan etc and i can here yhe fan running in the chihiro but im getting no status lights, the speakers power up but no sound and nothing coming from thethe monitor

There is one connector coming down from the monitor but god knows i can't find where it goes ive attched a pic of it,not sure if its for the montior or the marquee, i hear the monitor click and then clock off staright away.


Edit: also the status light on the board behind the coin door flashes not sure if this is supposed to be solid

FixitFelix

No lights

eddhorse

http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade//Manual/formated/The_House_of_the_Dead_III_-_2002_-_Sega.pdf

Cant see anything similar in the manual for that connector. Where does the other end go?

I have something like that in my astro, its connected from the monitor chassis to the pot adjustment board. Monitor doesnt power up without it connected. Bit of a wild guess though.

What monitor is in it?

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade//Manual/formated/The_House_of_the_Dead_III_-_2002_-_Sega.pdf

Cant see anything similar in the manual for that connector. Where does the other end go?

I have something like that in my astro, its connected from the monitor chassis to the pot adjustment board. Monitor doesnt power up without it connected. Bit of a wild guess though.

What monitor is in it?

It goes up the back of the monitor panel unit, need to make room to open the back up and have a look coz she's a beast to move

TechnoFreek

FixitFelix wrote: »

There is one connector coming down from the monitor but god knows i can't find where it goes ive attched a pic of it,not sure if its for the montior or the marquee, i hear the monitor click and then clock off staright away.

As edd mentioned, a monitor won't give an image If any cable is not connected or wrongly connected. I doubt there are too many places for that connector to go. Case of trial and error on both of the monitor chassis boards.

I agree with edd, it does look a bit like the connector used on remote board but that wouldn't be coming from the back of the monitor itself. It would snake along from some other access point and connect directly to the main chassis.

FixitFelix

TechnoFreek wrote: »

As edd mentioned, a monitor won't give an image If any cable is not connected or wrongly connected. I doubt there are too many places for that connector to go. Case of trial and error on both of the monitor chassis boards.

I agree with edd, it does look a bit like the connector used on remote board but that wouldn't be coming from the back of the monitor itself. It would snake along from some other access point and connect directly to the main chassis.

Yeah from what i can see without opening it up is that the other end is already connected somewhere on the monitor and this prob was disconnected when it was taken apart, so i guess ill just have to open the back of the cab up to be sure, need to move half the stuff outta the shed first

FixitFelix

Update that connector is for the light gun sensors, but still no clue where it should connect to

This is all i get from the monitor
https://youtu.be/4uJ5uYmbz88

eddhorse

More guess work, from my poor googling skills it has to go to the light gun sensor board.
https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/838-13145

geotrig

Chihiros can be a bit funny and won't output a pic if not connected right ,I know I had times where it shows as a black screen because of a connector not in or the wrong place....
I'd suggest opening it up to make sure none of the caps have exploded a known issue with these.

FixitFelix

geotrig wrote: »

Chihiros can be a bit funny and won't output a pic if not connected right ,I know I had times where it shows as a black screen because of a connector not in or the wrong place....
I'd suggest opening it up to make sure none of the caps have exploded a known issue with these.

Yeah i think thats what ill do tomorrow,is it worth getting fixed? I also noticed that the gdrom doesnt seem to spin either,this is obviously related to the chihiro yeah??

eddhorse

Heres some Chihiro info.

https://newastrocity.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/sega-chihiro/

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Heres some Chiriro info.

https://newastrocity.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/sega-chihiro/

Cheers, just seen a bit about it not powering if the battery is dead andsince this hasn't been used in so long its something i could look at

eddhorse

Yep it does say a few things like that in the link.
Im not up to speed on the Chihiro at all.
Didnt know it was an early xbox.

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Yep it does say a few things like that in the link.
Im not up to speed on the Chihiro at all.
Didnt know it was an early xbox.

Yeah read that somewhere else, still scratching my head of this would cause my monitor issue

eddhorse

The service manual has a lot more detail than the instruction manual.
http://d2q2ufly9wqg0k.cloudfront.net/sharedfiles/HOTD%203%20DLX%20Manual.pdf

geotrig

Yours looks like a type one from the pic ,slightly different from the type 3 dimm board is seperate ,but still pretty much the same thing.
If I get a chance I'll boot mine up over the next day or two and see if I can help in anyway.defo worth cracking open just to be sure.get some other pics up also it might help,although browsing on the phone isn't helping me!
There are the replacement boards around but and full new chihiros are around 250-300 GBP these days .../me waits to see one go for cheap now lol

geotrig

Have a look on AO as well ,there are a few threads on chihiros not booting etc

geotrig

OK when powered on status LSD should come on 4 anyway ,they're should be power lights lit up over by the poer connectors.
Do you have avip cable attached?
Not sure on what the cable you posted earlier is but it doesn't look like a monitor cable ,looks more like an io connector

FixitFelix

geotrig wrote: »

OK when powered on status LSD should come on 4 anyway ,they're should be power lights lit up over by the poer connectors.
Do you have avip cable attached?
Not sure on what the cable you posted earlier is but it doesn't look like a monitor cable ,looks more like an io connector

Yeah the cable i i poosted was for the gun sensor board,i get no power lights at all, yes i have the avip cable connected,all i get from tye chihiro is the fan spinning

Cheers

geotrig

Best bet so to crackbit open ,it could be just not seated right ,but probably unlikely it's that but wort a go t least.at least opened you can see if any damage is apparant
There's an abundance of things that can go wrong with these caps, gpu/cpu overheating from fans seizing etc,so gonna be hard narrow down .but worth giving it a once over anyhow

FixitFelix

geotrig wrote: »

Best bet so to crackbit open ,it could be just not seated right ,but probably unlikely it's that but wort a go t least.at least opened you can see if any damage is apparant
There's an abundance of things that can go wrong with these caps, gpu/cpu overheating from fans seizing etc,so gonna be hard narrow down .but worth giving it a once over anyhow

Will do mate cheers,will report back with more info

FixitFelix

Well took the chihiro out of the cab and opened it up.Couldn't see anything physically wrong with it or anything blown but those of you that know more about this might be able to spot something.could it be as easy as a dead battery??(not knowing my luck)
Took as many photos as i could

Cheers

FixitFelix

More here

geotrig

FixitFelix wrote: »

More here

Are those rusty standoffs ?

Do you have a multimetet ?check the voltages going into the board ,if they are OK ,check a chip or one of the other cn's,that you can get a pinout off and see if it's getting that far on the board

FixitFelix

Yeah the standoffs are rusted, don't have a multimeter but will pick one up for testing

Jack burton

Just got an email from Ronnie with a HOD3 in there for €1695

Hope you get this up and running dude!

Jack burton

Jack burton wrote: »

Just got an email from Ronnie with a HOD3 in there for €1695

Hope you get this up and running dude!

Muddy just sold he E2 for £1250 pounds too:eek::eek::eek:

FixitFelix

Jack burton wrote: »

Just got an email from Ronnie with a HOD3 in there for €1695

Hope you get this up and running dude!

Thats a nice price alright,need to get it up and running first ðŸ˜

eddhorse

BrownFinger wrote: »

Muddy just sold he E2 for £1250 pounds too:eek::eek::eek:

Saw that, didnt know they have a rotate mechanism, thats deadly

FixitFelix

So finally picked up a working chihiro type 3 mobo, flicked the switch everything lights up and I hear the start up tune through the speakers but nothing shows up through the monitor
I've no gdroms as I'm waiting on my Piforce to arrive but from what I've read I should still see the "chihiro" boot screen.
I can here a couple of clicks from monitor but that's about it
Will have to pull it open again to see if there is anything disconnected but from the last time I opened it nothing jumped out at me

eddhorse

Sounds like a misplaced connector.
Did you get anything on the monitor before this?

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Sounds like a misplaced connector.
Did you get anything on the monitor before this?

No just the same clicking I had before,i had a look in the back of the cab and nothing looks like its disconnected and there is only one connection at the front of the cab for power.
Definitely sounds like its getting power and losing it straight away 😠

eddhorse

Thats a shame, not much going right with this beast !!
Has to be the monitor chassis then really.
Can you see its getting its correct voltage input with multimeter?

Clicking could be a relay ?
look for a white,yellow or clear plastic box mounted on the pcb.

Is a rear projection yea?
got a schematic drawing ?

FixitFelix

BrownFinger wrote: »

Clicking could be a relay ?
look for a white,yellow or clear plastic box mounted on the pcb.

Is a rear projection yea?
got a schematic drawing ?

Cheers lads, yeah it's rear projection I think there was a wiring schematic in the PDF I downloaded but I wouldn't have clue what to be looking for,ill upload a pic if I can

Cheers

Edit: here's the link for the PDF, wiring is the last 2 pages can't seem to upload image directly through phone
Thanks

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://d2q2ufly9wqg0k.cloudfront.net/sharedfiles/HOTD%203%20DLX%20Manual.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiog-vt0PzNAhWoIcAKHYDyAYMQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNEQH9wTosZYfMQpd4A-G2kI68hcLQ&sig2=Ok36fMNvHqXDrwzLFYC9wQ

Not much info on the monitor itself there.
I've never worked on a projection screen before to be honest .
But I'd make sure its getting power.
meter the point where the power goes into the screen.
looks like its just a dsub connector from the chichiro?

FixitFelix

BrownFinger wrote: »

Not much info on the monitor itself there.
I've never worked on a projection screen before to be honest .
But I'd make sure its getting power.
meter the point where the power goes into the screen.
looks like its just a dsub connector from the chichiro?

I double check the monitor power and go from there

um7y1h83ge06nx

I'm not into arcade machines myself, maybe some day, but I really hope you get sorted out, sickener to have something so cool that just won't f**king work.

you should be able to check the output from the chihiro with any vga monitor too.

FixitFelix

BrownFinger wrote: »

you should be able to check the output from the chihiro with any vga monitor too.

Yeah I have a spare monitor here but as I'm off to westport tomorrow with work won't get a chance to check until the weekend

eddhorse

FixitFelix wrote: »

Yeah I have a spare monitor here but as I'm off to westport tomorrow with work won't get a chance to check until the weekend

Leave the key under the pot and we will have it sorted upon your return !!

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Leave the key under the pot and we will have it sorted upon your return !!

If only things were that easy

eddhorse

FixitFelix wrote: »

If only things were that easy

True, power supply, new chihiro and now a monitor issue, hope the guns work.

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

True, power supply, new chihiro and now a monitor issue, hope the guns work.

If not a Jerry can full of petrol will sort all my problems

eddhorse

Any update?

FixitFelix

eddhorse wrote: »

Any update?

In westport until Friday will have a look then cheers