Cheltenham 2016 Antepost

jimjamcos

I know plenty will say it's still too early to play and mostly rank value but there has to be decent antepost bets given we're less than 80 days away from festival.

Supreme

Its the Mullins/Ricci show again with Min being a mostly hype horse but also shortening by the day. He's hacked up on his first start and you start to feel that, although rediculous in mug simplicity, he could just be Mullins/Ricci Supreme winner mark IIII after Champagne Fever, Vautour and Douvan. Being a half brother to the latter, he could be another special animal. Yorkhill won the the Tolworth today and while as a p2p winner and on visual evidence he looks a stayer who travels well through races, i think he'll run in the festival opener. Not because he has more toe than Bellshill but for the exact opposite reason - the fact he's not as good as Bellshill. The one thing Mullins, and Walsh in particular, wants to do and have always done is seperate the most talanted horses. We seen two years ago with Vautour/Faugheen/Briar Hill and last year with Douvan/Nichols Canyon/Black Hercules that they (Ruby!) will make sure that the perceived 3 best novices are kept apart. Mullins, surprisingly enough, even stated live on Channel 4 yesterday that he mostly goes by what Ruby wants. At this very moment, Min - Supreme, Bellshill - Neptune and Up For Review - Albert Bartlett look their three best novices and regardless of the impressive Yorkhill winning a Gr1 today I'd ve surprised if anything happened in Ireland between now and then to change that.


Of the British challangers, I'd be surprised if Altior, while undoubtedly gutsy, is tactically quick enough to win a Supreme and while his stablemate Buvenir Dair impressed when slamming Wait for Me, he hasn't been seen since and reports of a cough put him in the bracket of 'one of Nickys to avoid until seen again'. Yanworth looks good but has beaten little and is bound to be a stayer.

Selection: I had a bet on Min before his debut at 12/1 just on the presumption that he'd win that day and shorten drastically given his reputation. I was impressed so hopeful now once Bellshill goes Neptune as expected.

jimjamcos

Arkle

Looks like Douvan's to lose but I haven't been overly impressed with his jumping so far. That may be down to the fact that in both cases of error, Ruby and Patrick could afford to be careful given he was only in a half canter. Still though, 4/7 is probably the worst antepost value I've ever seen for a novice who is sure to meet his first real test in this race. The problem is, the opposition so far looks limited. Vaniteux is flakey, Ar Mad doesn't go left and Garde La Victoire looked laboured lto. That leaves Lami Serge and Kitten Rock - both run tomorrow - so hopefully one of them can show improvement. Henderson is adament that that the former wasn't right in last years Supreme (he usually is) but he could improve for a fence.

Definitely a no bet race given prohibitive fav and danger of horses avoiding him.


Champion Hurdle

Im of the opinion that Faugheen the Machine will reverse form with Nichols Canyon and record back-to-back wins (a Mullins 123 again). Like Douvan however, his price is crazy short given he's only beaten no-hopers since that loss. My hope is that he doesnt run again before festival, that Nichols runs and wins Irish Champion and that bookies as usual get brave day of race and offer evens. What is for certain though is anyone taking current odds needs their head checked!

No bet for reasons mentioned



Mares

If Annie Power's fit she'll run in this. And if she runs, she wins. Doing handstands.

No bet



National Hunt Chase

They're apparently saying that RSA is still the plan but I think the connections of Native River are absolutely crazy to be aiming the horse anywhere but this race. He repeatedly hits flat spots in his races and does nothing but find and stay. He's not in the Don Poli mould of eventually getting to the front either, he's a real boat who has struggled to lay up in his races so far, only outstaying non-stayers like Un Temps Pour Tout on soft-heavy in average English novice chases. He's nowhere near as talented as No More Heroes, More of That, Pont Alexandre or Killultagh Vic but with them all likely to be aimed at top novice races over 4miler, and Native River sure to relish a marathon trip on evidence so far, 14/1 looks a standout bet.

Bet: Holding fire until I'm sure Native River connections have seen sense

Wicklow Brave

My thoughts are:
I like Yanworth for the Supreme. I think Altior should run in the Neptune. I could see both Yorkhill and Bellshill running in the Neptune. Wylie said yesterday that wouldn't bother him. Ruby would be on Bellshill. Muggy Min, Douvan, Faugheen, Annie Power acca will be happening it seems. Barters Hill wins the Albert Bartlett. Douvan wins the Arkle. More Of That wins the RSA. I'd have either Sizing John or L'ami Serge winning the JLT. Kitten Rock will beat Shaneshill today by half a length and win the Grand Annual. Regal Encore wins whichever handicap he runs in. Faugheen wins the Champion Hurdle again. Nichols Canyon may end up in the World Hurdle but he'll place in either, he won't be winning anything. Annie Power wins whichever race she runs. I like Al Ferof for the Ryanair. Un de Sceaux will get beat in the Clarence House and they'll run Vautour in the QM where he'll hack up. If he doesn't run, Sprinter Sacre wins. And for the Gold Cup, I can't believe I'm actually saying this... I think Cue Card might do it.

longshotvalue

I think once Vautour doesn't go for the Champion Chase Sprinter Sacre will be winning UDS or not. If it stays around the same price as it is now with Sprinter at 4/1 and UDS 7/4 etc i shall be loosing my mind.

UDS has basically beaten nothing, and Sprinter proved his physical well being last time out on unsuitable ground against a resurgent Sire De Grughy. On good ground around cheltenham UDS will need to actually beat a hell of a lot more than he has already to win here.

Im all in..

Backstreet Moyes

Anyone think The New One could run in the World Hurdle, he knows he can't beat Faugheen.

Also thinking of having a bet on Vautour at 10/1 for the Gold Cup.

Been backing weekly Faugheen, Douvan and UDS treble at decent prices, the first two are obviously too short now.

Started last week doing a small treble weekly of Barters Hill, No More Heroes and Jossies Orders.

Usually pick one horse to back weekly at a decent price, thinking of Sizing John for the JLT.

uxiant

Identity Thief is a cracking each-way bet for the Champion Hurdle. I thought Nichols Canyon was disappointing at first but Windsor Park was no where to be seen (although the ground could be an excuse) and Identity Thief is frighteningly progressive and probably improved significantly again. The test of stamina definitely suited Nichols Canyon more and given his progressive profile there's no reason why Identity Thief can't improve again. That doesn't mean he's guaranteed to improve past Nichols Canyon as he's never been flashy and seems to grind out his wins so he could well find more again at Cheltenham. He was also quite keen most of the way round which was hardly ideal in that ground unlike Identity Thief who settled nicely.

Faugheen's been outstanding against good horses but when a proper Grade 1 horse in Nichols Canyon got him off the bridle he looked awkward and lost. Does he find under pressure? I'm not sure and he's worth taking on.

Arctic Fire has ran good races but has never been quite Champion Hurdle class and with him running over 3m at Christmas it's likely that the yard didn't feel he was quite good enough to beat Nichols Canyon or Faugheen.

Peace and Co had no chance the last day taking that pull but it's likely he isn't good enough and Cheltenham doesn't suit him at all as he's all speed.

The New One is finished. He can't jump anymore and has looked workmanlike on all his starts for a while now. Injury problems have finished him and he doesn't have a chance.

Has to be a major concern that My Tent or Yours hasn't been seen despite being readied for so long. And even if he does get back to his best he won't be good enough to win.

Old Guard probably didn't quite run his race the last time but won't be good enough. Top Notch and Hargam aren't good enough either.

The Champion Hurdle is a good race to go ante post as we have a good idea of what's going to turn up. The race could cut up as well and we may have less than 8 runners on the day if a few go down the World Hurdle route or so. Identity Thief looks to have been seriously overlooked because he's a De Bromhead hurdler at 16/1. Not only do I see him as serious place value but also quite overpriced to win given Faugheen is no odds on shot based on what happened to him under pressure in the Morgiana.

Peintre Celebre

It's always risky backing the handicaps this early on, but I'm starting taking a chance on Splash of Ginge for the Byrne Plate. He won't be good enough to run in the grade 1s and he's been messed around running over three miles at the minute. If he goes for one it'll be this one and he could be very well handicapped by the time of it. 33/1 is worth the risk

Trouble in P

The only thing that beats UDS in the Champion Chase is himself (his jumping). No other horse in the race will be able to handle his electric pace. I've been backing him at 7/4 every few days since he fell last time out, as I can't see him being that price on the day, especially if Willie Mullins has 2 or 3 winners on day 1. UDS wins on the bridle if he doesn't fall.

longshotvalue

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

It's always risky backing the handicaps this early on, but I'm starting taking a chance on Splash of Ginge for the Byrne Plate. He won't be good enough to run in the grade 1s and he's been messed around running over three miles at the minute. If he goes for one it'll be this one and he could be very well handicapped by the time of it. 33/1 is worth the risk

I'm with you on that but have another one in the same race.. I think he should go for this race and will go with a live chance

Wicklow Brave

As a big Tombstone fan I think he'll go close either in the Supreme or Neptune aswell.

If Vautour does run in the Gold Cup then it's because he's absolutely flying at home and Ruby will 100% be on his back. Zero chance Vautour lines up in the Gold Cup with Ruby not on his back. Djakadam is exceptional but Vautour is Vautour. I think Vautour can definitely win the Gold Cup in the next few years. This year is perhaps too soon but I think he can do it if Willie does pitch him in this year. Left-handed, good ground, peak fitness, loves Cheltenham; it's 3m2f not 4m2f, he can win it. However I do think he'll end up in the Champion Chase because Un de Sceaux won't be winning that unless it's soft and he sorts his jumping out.

If it comes up soft they'll run Vautour in the Ryanair. They'll say the Gold Cup has come a year too soon for him and they'll go back for the King George with the Gold Cup in 2017 on his agenda, which is fair enough.

Cue Card looks a different horse this year. He needed every yard of the 3 miles at Kempton and likes Cheltenham having won the Bumper and he hacked up in the Ryanair a few years ago. He's a class animal and with past problems firmly behind him, I can see him do it. Don Cossack just makes too many jumping errors in the top races - RSA, Ryanair, King George. Don Poli could win a weak Gold Cup like Lord Windermere did, not against this bunch though. Again, it's 3m2f not 4m2f. Djakadam has a great chance aswell of course and he'll win if it comes up soft but as of know and unless he's improved more than I think he has, his chances rely on the others not getting the trip/making jumping errors.

Few antepost bets I like at the minute are:
L'ami Serge - JLT 16/1
Vautour - QM 10/1
At Fisher's Cross - World Hurdle 40/1
Al Ferof - Ryanair 14/1

lemush

Noel Meade won't like it but Road to Riches will line up in the Ryanair... although he will win it which will soften the blow.

madmoose

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

As a big Tombstone fan I think he'll go close either in the Supreme or Neptune aswell.

If Vautour does run in the Gold Cup then it's because he's absolutely flying at home and Ruby will 100% be on his back. Zero chance Vautour lines up in the Gold Cup with Ruby not on his back. Djakadam is exceptional but Vautour is Vautour. I think Vautour can definitely win the Gold Cup in the next few years. This year is perhaps too soon but I think he can do it if Willie does pitch him in this year. Left-handed, good ground, peak fitness, loves Cheltenham; it's 3m2f not 4m2f, he can win it. However I do think he'll end up in the Champion Chase because Un de Sceaux won't be winning that unless it's soft and he sorts his jumping out.

If it comes up soft they'll run Vautour in the Ryanair. They'll say the Gold Cup has come a year too soon for him and they'll go back for the King George with the Gold Cup in 2017 on his agenda, which is fair enough.

Cue Card looks a different horse this year. He needed every yard of the 3 miles at Kempton and likes Cheltenham having won the Bumper and he hacked up in the Ryanair a few years ago. He's a class animal and with past problems firmly behind him, I can see him do it. Don Cossack just makes too many jumping errors in the top races - RSA, Ryanair, King George. Don Poli could win a weak Gold Cup like Lord Windermere did, not against this bunch though. Again, it's 3m2f not 4m2f. Djakadam has a great chance aswell of course and he'll win if it comes up soft but as of know and unless he's improved more than I think he has, his chances rely on the others not getting the trip/making jumping errors.

Few antepost bets I like at the minute are:
L'ami Serge - JLT 16/1
Vautour - QM 10/1
At Fisher's Cross - World Hurdle 40/1
Al Ferof - Ryanair 14/1

Lami serge is likely to go the arkle against douvan and will chase him home.

Couldnt be backing fishers cross with stolen cash, he needs runs anyway and has injury problems the last 6 months only getting back to the yard recently. Id rather still be on martello tower 25/1 nrnb but he may be relying on the weather to lash it down come the thurs.

madmoose

Recently i had been backing Shaneshill at 8/1 eachway for the JLT and i still fancy him to go very close as the JLT could be a poor one. Sizing John a fine ew too the same race at 12/1 who i will be doing as cover as shanes should go off fav maybe 7/2 or so.

Wicklow Brave

madmoose wrote: »

Lami serge is likely to go the arkle against douvan and will chase him home.

Couldnt be backing fishers cross with stolen cash, he needs runs anyway and has injury problems the last 6 months only getting back to the yard recently. Id rather still be on martello tower 25/1 nrnb but he may be relying on the weather to lash it down come the thurs.

Nicky will run him in the JLT I reckon. 16/1 in a race he'll win v 10/1 in a race he won't win - no brainer. Shaneshill does not have the scope at all to jump fences, I don't think he has any chance winning the JLT tbh.

At Fishers Cross looked gone at the game last February getting hammered by 130 animals and he still finished 4th in the World Hurdle a month later. I'm happy to take 40/1 against a very moderate bunch.

JJs Left Hand

Ivanovich Gorbatov wins the Triumph. Easily.

Johns Spirit is a Jonjo handicap special.

longshotvalue

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Ivanovich Gorbatov wins the Triumph. Easily.

Johns Spirit is a Jonjo handicap special.

For the love of god ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :rolleyes:;)

Im looking forward to him winning at the festival

posturingpat

aidankkk wrote: »

For the love of god ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :rolleyes:;)

Im looking forward to him winning at the festival

Only one thing i don't like about him. Mc Lernon,he's a 5lb handicap imo. Still think the way he's getting campaigned he'll be well in.

lemush

In my opinion Johns Spirit has absolutely no chance of winning the Byrne Group Plate handicap off 151.

Dubcelt

I done a Treble of Douvan 5\2, Faugheen 5\4 & UDS 5\4 back in October. Very confident of the first two but UDS could be the fly in the ointment.

posturingpat

lemush wrote: »

In my opinion Johns Spirit has absolutely no chance of winning the Byrne Group Plate handicap off 151.

They'll get him back to the magic 149 before then i reckon. :pac:

longshotvalue

lemush wrote: »

In my opinion Johns Spirit has absolutely no chance of winning the Byrne Group Plate handicap off 151.

He will be of about 149 or less. But one look at this run in last year ryanair makes me think that at 150 or less ill be praying for a big price at some stage. And also look at the melling chase.

Seems an obvious plot considering he hasn't won at the festival and neither has the owner as far as i can see.

He has everything you need for it, course form right mark and probably right conditions. I sit patiently for someone to put up 33/1

lemush

aidankkk wrote: »

He will be of about 149 or less. But one look at this run in last year ryanair makes me think that at 150 or less ill be praying for a big price at some stage. And also look at the melling chase.

Seems an obvious plot considering he hasn't won at the festival and neither has the owner as far as i can see.

He has everything you need for it, course form right mark and probably right conditions. I sit patiently for someone to put up 33/1

33/1 would be very fair but knowing the books these days I can see him being half that. I don't think it's that 151 overrates him it's just the Bryne is always choc full of well handicapped, unexposed animals a bit like Ballynagour a few years back. I think only 2 of the last 27 winners were rated above 141 which highlights the difficulty.

Kauto

madmoose wrote: »

Recently i had been backing Shaneshill at 8/1 eachway for the JLT and i still fancy him to go very close as the JLT could be a poor one. Sizing John a fine ew too the same race at 12/1 who i will be doing as cover as shanes should go off fav maybe 7/2 or so.

Sizing John will be running in the arkle. They were delighted with his run at Leopardstown where he didnt lift a leg in the ground. Wont beat Douvan IMO but a cracking bet without him when that market opens as think he will be clear second best.

madmoose

Kauto wrote: »

Sizing John will be running in the arkle. They were delighted with his run at Leopardstown where he didnt lift a leg in the ground. Wont beat Douvan IMO but a cracking bet without him when that market opens as think he will be clear second best.

Didn't henry say he was now going up in trip after the last day? I am sure they would want to win a winnable JLT than be 2nd to doivan again.

rednose

What's peoples opinion on where Tombstone will show up? I think he would have a cracking chance in the Supreme at 20/1 but the bookies seem to think he will go down the neptune route, where he's currently 14/1. Wherever he goes, I think he will be very hard beat!!

lemush

madmoose wrote: »

Didn't henry say he was now going up in trip after the last day? I am sure they would want to win a winnable JLT than be 2nd to doivan again.

Surely that will be the case.

lemush

rednose wrote: »

What's peoples opinion on where Tombstone will show up? I think he would have a cracking chance in the Supreme at 20/1 but the bookies seem to think he will go down the neptune route, where he's currently 14/1. Wherever he goes, I think he will be very hard beat!!

Fast pace over 2m ideal so I hope Supreme but impossible to know for sure.

klairondavis

Tombstone will have to settle better if he goes to the Neptune.

Wicklow Brave

I'm considering backing Tombstone for the Neptune at 14/1 now. His next race is the Deloitte where he'll meet Bellshill and I think he can beat Bellshill. If he wins then he'll shorten a fair bit and I think they'll go for the Neptune with him.

Nichols Canyon at 20/1 for the World Hurdle is tempting aswell. I would have slight doubts over the trip but I've thought about it and I think he'd go close. Everyone thought he was a Champion Hurdle horse when he beat Faugheen but I think Faugheen was way below par that day. NC probably only has to find 5lbs to win the WH while he'd need to find a stone to beat Faugheen imo. I'd fancy Identity Thief to reverse the form with NC in the CH. Willie has no obvious WH horse with Annie Power likely running in the Mares Hurdle so I can definitely see NC in the WH where he'd be second or third fav if not fav.

Zabana at 28/1 for the RSA is huge imo. The bookies are so scared of Mullins horses that they really underestimate those with unfashionable trainers. Most of the horses ahead of Zabana in the market won't even run in the race (Aux Ptits Soins, Yorkhill, Aurko, Alpha des Obeaux etc). Mullins has horses ahead of him aswell that will run in the JLT and NH Chase. Zabana won the Beginners Chase in Leopardstown won by Lord Windermere and Djakadam in recent years on ground he'd abhor. He was beaten a neck in the Coral Cup giving Aux Ptits Soins weight so he acts around Cheltenham and he has decent form behind Jezki and HF over 3 miles at Punchestown aswell. I think he could beat No More Heroes in a good ground RSA and NMH is only 7/2. Davy Russell on his back is also a plus.

irish_major

All over Don Poli every week from here in. The way he pulled up that hill last year it'll take a serious horse to beat him and I just can't see where that horse is going to come from.
The King George was a freakish race and I'm not convinced by Djakadam. Don Cossack makes mistakes and was found out last year in cheltenham even though I'm pretty certain he'd have won the KG if he stayed up I still have doubts. Can't believe you can get 13/2 about Don Poli.

Kauto

madmoose wrote: »

Didn't henry say he was now going up in trip after the last day? I am sure they would want to win a winnable JLT than be 2nd to doivan again.

Since when has that ever stopped Potts? He will be running in the Arkle!!

De Bromhead will be doing what he is told.

BumperD

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Ivanovich Gorbatov wins the Triumph. Easily.

Johns Spirit is a Jonjo handicap special.

Flagged up by John himself but surely he has less exposed and better handicapped ones in his yard

madmoose

Kauto wrote: »

Since when has that ever stopped Potts? He will be running in the Arkle!!

De Bromhead will be doing what he is told.

We will see

Wicklow Brave

Ben Pauling just saying there on ATR that Barters Hill is now going to run in the Neptune ! Add that to nearly every one of Willie's horses, L'ami Serge, Sizing John, Tombstone, nearly every horse in training - targets still very much up in the air... I'm done with antepost betting!

Francie Barrett

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

I'm done with antepost betting!

I say that every year :pac:

Wicklow Brave

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I say that every year :pac:

It's frustrating but even more so these days with Mullins so dominant and having to second guess him and with new races like the JLT and Albert Bartlett then to make it even more difficult. I'd love to back L'ami Serge for the JLT because although I know Henderson has mentioned the Arkle, I can definitely see them avoiding Douvan and running him in the JLT leaving Vaniteux to take on Douvan.

JJs Left Hand

I'm hoping Zabana goes JLT. Him and Sizing John my 2 for that.

Might not be Cheltenham related as I can see him running in the Boylesports but all over Blue Hell wherever he runs. Entered in the Lanzarote but no chance he runs in it - trip way too far.

Don't really do ante-post betting since I got stung after backing Fly, Quevega, Sizing Europe and Bucks in every kind of combination for 3 months in 2012. Painful watching Finians Rainbow hold SE in as they skipped the last fence.

Wicklow Brave

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

I'm hoping Zabana goes JLT. Him and Sizing John my 2 for that.

Might not be Cheltenham related as I can see him running in the Boylesports but all over Blue Hell wherever he runs. Entered in the Lanzarote but no chance he runs in it - trip way too far.

Don't really do ante-post betting since I got stung after backing Fly, Quevega, Sizing Europe and Bucks in every kind of combination for 3 months in 2012. Painful watching Finians Rainbow hold SE in as they skipped the last fence.

Yeah just looking on the machine, looks like Zabana will be running in the JLT.

Blue Hell goes for the County Hurdle.

madmoose

Id be interested in the job is right for the kim muir, ran well staying on lto behind Minella Foru and the 3m5f of the kim may be perfect as he just ran out of gas in the 4miler last year.

rossom

Blue Hell the big handicap one for Cheltenham at this early stage for me. Always travelled like a machine but first time he properly finished off his race the last day and no doubt he's still well in.

As per Fleming's stable tour

“The plan is to hold onto him for the County Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival. He’s off the right sort of mark for that race right now, so we’re happy to hold onto him for a go at a big one. I’d hope he’ll improve for a sounder surface in the spring too.”

HarshOstrich

irish_major wrote: »

All over Don Poli every week from here in. The way he pulled up that hill last year it'll take a serious horse to beat him and I just can't see where that horse is going to come from.
The King George was a freakish race and I'm not convinced by Djakadam. Don Cossack makes mistakes and was found out last year in cheltenham even though I'm pretty certain he'd have won the KG if he stayed up I still have doubts. Can't believe you can get 13/2 about Don Poli.

There was nothing freakish about it, the top horses in the market all had there chance, not like an unfancied horse won. I agree that don Cossack would of won if he stayed up.

irish_major

HarshOstrich wrote: »

There was nothing freakish about it, the top horses in the market all had there chance, not like an unfancied horse won. I agree that don Cossack would of won if he stayed up.

Cue card doesn't stay as he'll prove in Chelt yet he looked like he needed every yard. Wait and see, in time to come people will be scratching their heads looking at the form of the King George.

madmoose

I asked for Johns Spirit to be added to the byrne, on oddschecker at 25/1 with bet365.

HarshOstrich

irish_major wrote: »

Cue card doesn't stay as he'll prove in Chelt yet he looked like he needed every yard. Wait and see, in time to come people will be scratching their heads looking at the form of the King George.

Cue Card does stay as he has proved twice this season,seemingly because of a breathing operation,I don't think he will win come march but it won't because he doesn't stay.

Kauto

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Cue Card does stay as he has proved twice this season,seemingly because of a breathing operation,I don't think he will win come march but it won't because he doesn't stay.

Cue card doesn't stay. Big difference between 3M in Kempton and 3M 21/2F at Cheltenham.
The Gold cup would be a far better race if they brought it back to 3M. Always the feel that a plodder would win it(Kauto star and a few others excepted) like cool dawn.

Vautour had the KG won half way down the back straight and somehow managed to lose it.

madmoose

People earlier in this thread mentioned road to riches ryanair and that is a good shout the more you think of it. The dons are going the gc and with road showing on his return his versatility dropping back in trip that he will probably represent gigginstown in their own race. He is 8/1 nrnb with 365 or 12/1 any race with william hill but that isnt nrnb.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Wicklow Brave wrote: »

Ben Pauling just saying there on ATR that Barters Hill is now going to run in the Neptune ! Add that to nearly every one of Willie's horses, L'ami Serge, Sizing John, Tombstone, nearly every horse in training - targets still very much up in the air... I'm done with antepost betting!

WB I can't see this confirm anywhere online,he gave an interview a couple of days ago saying Albert Barlett will still be an option

closcriobh

Min declared to race this Saturday at Punchestown in a race won by Douvan and Vautour in the past. Tombstone and Attribution also entered. Result should have huge effect on Supreme market and the 3/1 about Min for the Supreme could look big depending on the result..

madmoose

I have Min at 25/1 when it was all talk at home. I may lay it off if he wins on saturday he might go 6/4???

posturingpat

Poor Min'll be about 12/1 come Saturday evening if Tombstone runs and Cooper doesn't have a mare. Big enough if the way he ride the past 2-3 weeks.:pac:

Harry Angstrom

PP now going NR/no bet for big 4 Cheltenham races.