Rubber bandits 1916

Whereisgalway

Why isn't this on the iplayer? All programs funded by rte should be accessible through the rate player

DoctorBoo

It is. I watched it today.

Whereisgalway

DoctorBoo wrote: »

It is. I watched it today.

I'm lookin through the player via the UPC box, maybe that's the problem

brian_t

http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/the-rubberbandits-guide-to-1916-30003777/10511090/

Whereisgalway

brian_t wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/the-rubberbandits-guide-to-1916-30003777/10511090/

Thanks for the link but can't access it through the UPC box

Ash.J.Williams

loved

Lights On

Easily one of the TV highlights of 2015, even if it was cutting it close! How RTE aren't giving the lads the go ahead to make whatever they want is madness. Everything they touch turns to gold!

Whereisgalway

Anyone know when it's been repeated?

CatFromHue

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Anyone know when it's been repeated?

Monday night I think but as others have said it's up on the player now

Atlantic Dawn

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Anyone know when it's been repeated?

Monday night at 9.30.

Ol' Donie

Enjoyed it immensely.

Son0vagun

Yea I thought it was great.

CatFromHue

Good to see The Trout of No Craic make an appearance too!

Samsgirl

One of the funniest things on tv for a long time. Really enjoyed it.

AnonoBoy

Really good stuff. They're just smart funny f*ckers the pair of them.

MRnotlob606

I like the puppets they were ****ing hilarious.

Say Your Number

Wow, I think this is the first time I've ever seen an RTE comedy production receive unanimous praise on a thread here and no one has mentioned the license fee yet :eek:

falan

I had gone off the rubberbandits previously but this was hilarious. There's not much on rte player I'd watch but this was great.

AnonoBoy

Say Your Number wrote: »

Wow, I think this is the first time I've ever seen an RTE comedy production receive unanimous praise on a thread here and no one has mentioned the license fee yet :eek:

*grumble grumble* License fee well spent!

Technocentral

Is it better than Al Porter show?

Ash.J.Williams

Technocentral wrote: »

Is it better than Al Porter show?

different league

Ol' Donie

It's on again right now. Best thing ever.

griffin100

Surprisingly good with some very astute and clever observations. You could nearly show that to school kids it's that educational. That said still can't get Brian Boru holding Cromwell in a headlock or the thoughts of Devalera's speed mickey out of my head.

pinkypinky

I thought it was great but they did repeat that nonsense about DeValera getting off because he was born in America. The truth is he wasn't important enough.

Precious flower

I was very surprised, I thought it wasn't going to be half as good as it was. Very much liked the digs they gave when reading out the constitution!

qweerty

I thought it was very funny. But it's limited. It's just the lads d!cking around.

While I know it's not a documentary, it presents a very dubious account of Irish history. Unlike the poster above, I'd be horrified if children were encouraged watch it! It skimmed over De Velera's misogyny (he was the only commander not to allow women to fight in his battalion), ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and paedophile) unilaterally "claiming the allegiance" of the Irish people and perpetuates the old myth that the Brits were meanies for executing the leaders for actions that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians and the complete destruction of parts of Dublin, at a time when tens of thousands of Irishmen were fighting in France. Again, not a documentary, but it can't be excused of presenting the simistic narrative of that period that somehow still survives.

Lights On

qweerty wrote: »

I thought it was very funny. But it's limited. It's just the lads d!cking around.

While I know it's not a documentary, it presents a very dubious account of Irish history. Unlike the poster above, I'd be horrified if children were encouraged watch it! It skimmed over De Velera's misogyny (he was the only commander not to allow women to fight in his battalion), ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and paedophile) unilaterally "claiming the allegiance" of the Irish people and perpetuates the old myth that the Brits were meanies for executing the leaders for actions that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians and the complete destruction of parts of Dublin, at a time when tens of thousands of Irishmen were fighting in France. Again, not a documentary, but it can't be excused of presenting the simistic narrative of that period that somehow still survives.

The D in Michael D Higgins doesn't stand for dancing either.

refusetolose

Michael Diggins

6541

Great documentary, everybody should be made watch this. Well done lads.

Stephen Gawking

ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and a paedophile)


Ok I'll bite as I've never heard this before... who was (allegedly) a kiddy fiddler?

qweerty

Lights On wrote: »

The D in Michael D Higgins doesn't stand for dancing either.

Such wit! I bet you're the smarty pants in your class.

Stephen Gawking wrote: »

ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and a paedophile)


Ok I'll bite as I've never heard this before... who was (allegedly) a kiddy fiddler?

It's accepted in almost all quarters that Pearse was a latent paedophile.

Stephen Gawking

I have to admit that's news to me. Any links to anything backing this up? I'm not doubting you its just I've never heard this mentioned before.

ProudDUB

qweerty wrote: »

I thought it was very funny. But it's limited. It's just the lads d!cking around.

While I know it's not a documentary, it presents a very dubious account of Irish history. Unlike the poster above, I'd be horrified if children were encouraged watch it! It skimmed over De Velera's misogyny (he was the only commander not to allow women to fight in his battalion), ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and paedophile) unilaterally "claiming the allegiance" of the Irish people and perpetuates the old myth that the Brits were meanies for executing the leaders for actions that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians and the complete destruction of parts of Dublin, at a time when tens of thousands of Irishmen were fighting in France. Again, not a documentary, but it can't be excused of presenting the simistic narrative of that period that somehow still survives.

Jayzus. Lighten up a little. It was a piece of comedy, not a dinner party conversation between Dermot Ferriter and Roy Foster.

qweerty

ProudDUB wrote: »

Jayzus. Lighten up a little. It was a piece of comedy, not a dinner party conversation between Dermot Ferriter and Roy Foster.

What a silly analogy.

I was expressing regret that a programme that explores history, albeit for comic effect, presents the false narrative of old. For many people watching it, their historical misunderstandings will have been further ingrained. You would likely not be saying the same if they had presented a heavily revisionist narrative.

Stephen Gawking wrote: »

I have to admit that's news to me. Any links to anything backing this up? I'm not doubting you its just I've never heard this mentioned before.

Eh...

Paedophillia is difficult to prove unless you've found images on their hard drive or a victim comes forward...

TCDStudent1

pinkypinky wrote: »

I thought it was great but they did repeat that nonsense about DeValera getting off because he was born in America. The truth is he wasn't important enough.

He was important enough. There were certainly less high profile people executed. DeValera commanded his own battalion and was one of the last to surrender. I think he was saved simply by having his execution scheduled later than the others.

qweerty

Probably not the right place to have historical discussion. But I agree that it's as wrong to point to his nationality as being the reason as it is to any other. While he was the last to surrender, that was mainly because Boland's Bakery didn't see much fighting. When he was arrested, he was taken to a different jail from the others. So, probably a combination of not having caused much damage, being court marshalled later than the rest, being at a different jail and maybe the fact that the American consulate supposedly lobbied on his behalf.

MRnotlob606

Jaysus by reading this thread, I think the rubberbandits will have enough material to do another series !

Ol' Donie

qweerty wrote: »

Probably not the right place to have historical discussion. But I agree that it's as wrong to point to his nationality as being the reason as it is to any other. While he was the last to surrender, that was mainly because Boland's Bakery didn't see much fighting. When he was arrested, he was taken to a different jail from the others. So, probably a combination of not having caused much damage, being court marshalled later than the rest, being at a different jail and maybe the fact that the American consulate supposedly lobbied on his behalf.

What about the few bais that were with him?

Ash.J.Williams

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Jaysus by reading this thread, I think the rubberbandits will have enough material to do another series !

Like an Irish version of horrible histories? That's a great idea

Dannyriver

Lukehandypants wrote: »

Funny show, some very good observations about Ireland and particularly Dev.

I did think it was gonna be funnier.

Unfortunately I did think the show was let down with their cheap production values my biggest gripe being the radio mic stuck to the outside of one of the lads shirts, u could see the wire and the fluffy thing it was worse than nationwide.
Just lazy ass production values.

That s easily the worst criticism of the show that I ve seen and there have been a nice few commentators who are clutching at straws trying to hold on to the narrative that the 2 boys are chancers from Limerick with Plastic bags on their heads, despite their continued success well beyond the 15 minutes that they were supposed to have. How dare they prove us wrong sort of thing. I'm not saying you are one of them but I have to ask you, do you genuinely believe that the 2 boys who were smart and clued in enough to write and perform the show in the first place couldn't come up with a way of hiding a radio mic, a wire and a fluffy thing. Do you not think it might have been a conscious thing? How about the packet of crackers instead of Boland's mill? was that an oversight or did they think they were getting away with that also?

Dannyriver

qweerty wrote: »

I thought it was very funny. But it's limited. It's just the lads d!cking around.

While I know it's not a documentary, it presents a very dubious account of Irish history. Unlike the poster above, I'd be horrified if children were encouraged watch it! It skimmed over De Velera's misogyny (he was the only commander not to allow women to fight in his battalion), ignores the morality of a small group of men (one of whom was Scottish, one of whom was a fanatic and paedophile) unilaterally "claiming the allegiance" of the Irish people and perpetuates the old myth that the Brits were meanies for executing the leaders for actions that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians and the complete destruction of parts of Dublin, at a time when tens of thousands of Irishmen were fighting in France. Again, not a documentary, but it can't be excused of presenting the simistic narrative of that period that somehow still survives.

Go easy man will you. Firstly it was clearly not 'the lads dicking around' it was a top class piece of work that took a lot of talent and artistry to write, perform and execute on the miserable budget that RTE gave them. Secondly they had 44 minutes to get as much as they could in to it which they felt might be engaging and interesting. Do you not think that there was stuff they simply had to leave on the cutting room floor? [However Devalera's misogyny Id doubt was one of them considering Irish males in the early part of the 20th century were almost exclusively misogynist as was most of the males in the western world, read up on feminism and the fight for equality to confirm this, that said had Devalera displayed feminist qualities [which would be exceptional for a political figure at this time] Id say they might have considered cutting something else to accommodate it.] Lastly anything that gets young people interested in history and away from x factor and snap chat is surely worth a try. The school curriculum sure ain't working or have you not noticed.

qweerty

Dannyriver wrote: »

Go easy man will you. Firstly it was clearly not 'the lads dicking around' it was a top class piece of work that took a lot of talent and artistry to write, perform and execute on the miserable budget that RTE gave them. Secondly they had 44 minutes to get as much as they could in to it which they felt might be engaging and interesting. Do you not think that there was stuff they simply had to leave on the cutting room floor? [However Devalera's misogyny Id doubt was one of them considering Irish males in the early part of the 20th century were almost exclusively misogynist as was most of the males in the western world, read up on feminism and the fight for equality to confirm this, that said had Devalera displayed feminist qualities [which would be exceptional for a political figure at this time] Id say they might have considered cutting something else to accommodate it.] Lastly anything that gets young people interested in history and away from x factor and snap chat is surely worth a try. The school curriculum sure ain't working or have you not noticed.

Sorry, I realise that "the lads d!cking around" does read as though I'm maligning it. I actually think the Rubberbandits are brilliant. What I meant was that, while it deserves praise, it doesn't represent anything new from them and doesn't have any satirical bite.

As for the rest, though, I maintain that the blinkered narrative given was not a consequence of the genre, the production budget or of length, but of our society's collective amnesia, which is lamentable.

Lukehandypants

Dannyriver wrote:

That s easily the worst criticism of the show that I ve seen and there have been a nice few commentators who are clutching at straws trying to hold on to the narrative that the 2 boys are chancers from Limerick with Plastic bags on their heads, despite their continued success well beyond the 15 minutes that they were supposed to have. How dare they prove us wrong sort of thing. I'm not saying you are one of them but I have to ask you, do you genuinely believe that the 2 boys who were smart and clued in enough to write and perform the show in the first place couldn't come up with a way of hiding a radio mic, a wire and a fluffy thing. Do you not think it might have been a conscious thing? How about the packet of crackers instead of Boland's mill? was that an oversight or did they think they were getting away with that also?

I don't think the fluffy mic thing was a conscious thing. Why would they do that? The Boland mill thing makes sense cause it's a bit ****, I get what u mean but I don't think so.

I was also watching that impossible game show last week that the RB's do the voice over for, do u think that their accents are a bit watered down for the UK market?

Dannyriver

Lukehandypants wrote: »

I don't think the fluffy mic thing was a conscious thing. Why would they do that? The Boland mill thing makes sense cause it's a bit ****, I get what u mean but I don't think so.

I was also watching that impossible game show last week that the RB's do the voice over for, do u think that their accents are a bit watered down for the UK market?

Jesus man of course it was a conscious thing, if they didn't want them to be seen they d have hidden them No...? Why do you think they didn't hide them? Very interested to know your take or am I missing something obvious.

As for the impossible game show yeah they've definitely watered them down a bit for the UK market, it's working though they've been commissioned to do a second series. Hopefully they might make a few bob out of it cos they re certainly not gonna make it off RTE or in Ireland in general I reckon.

Ash.J.Williams

Lukehandypants wrote: »

I don't think the fluffy mic thing was a conscious thing. Why would they do that? The Boland mill thing makes sense cause it's a bit ****, I get what u mean but I don't think so.

I was also watching that impossible game show last week that the RB's do the voice over for, do u think that their accents are a bit watered down for the UK market?

i don;t know, but i'm sure it is....if you're speaking in another country do you not speak clearer??? Not talking like a bogtrotter has made conor mcgregor millions this year.

Ash.J.Williams

Lukehandypants wrote: »

If it's a conscious thing then why wernt both mics out on their clothes and not just one? That sort of unhidden mic thing really takes me out of the show.

the show probably isn't for you is it?

Dannyriver

Lukehandypants wrote: »

If it's a conscious thing then why wernt both mics out on their clothes and not just one? That sort of unhidden mic thing really takes me out of the show.

Because it only takes one to emphasise the low budget aesthetic which has been a staple of Rubberbandits work from the beginning. I.E The illusion that 'we re just chancing our arm all the time when in fact we know exactly what we we are doing.' There are people in Ireland who still think they re just 2 knacker culchie chancers from Limerick, and any clear evidence to the contrary they simply dont want to hear.

Again why do you think they didn't come up with a way of hiding them if it wasn't a conscious thing?

Mehapoy

qweerty wrote: »

Such wit! I bet you're the smarty pants in your class.




It's accepted in almost all quarters that Pearse was a latent paedophile.

That's not quite true, he had some poems etc. that would look off colour by modern standards, but there was a cult of masculinity of youth at that time, saying it is accepted he was a 'latent paedophile' is pushing it! Also they mentioned a few times about the lack of public support the rebels got before and during the insurrection.

Lukehandypants

Ash.J.Williams wrote:

the show probably isn't for you is it?

And now I remember why I don't look at boards anymore...

Dannyriver

Lukehandypants wrote: »

And now I remember why I don't look at boards anymore...

Did I say something to offend you, I certainly didn't mean to. I'm still genuinely interested as to why they left the mic and fluffy thing to be seen if they didn't consciously do it that s all. I may be wrong you may be wrong but at least I ve tried to justify my stance, on the issue.

Ash.J.Williams

Lukehandypants wrote: »

Well, it's just in well made TV one would always expect to have hidden mics, it adds a certain quality to the show, when I see mics out on a TV show u get the feeling that the person who put mics out like that wasn't able to get a decent sound out of the mics if they were hidden so there fore I assumed that.

ah just give up