A minutes silence please for the death of Call of Duty

Domane

Ok, first off, I'm a lot older than most on here. Been gaming since the Commodore 64 was the cutting edge of game machines. Anyways, I got the first Call of Duty when it came out on pc in 2003/4 (my brain is getting on a bit and I can't remember exactly) and played it to death online when internet speeds were half a megabyte per second at best! Then the upgrade pack came out and we could now use tanks and boy did I stay up gaming until 5am battling my way through Foy, Kursk, etc. Naturally, I bought all the CoDs for pc and then moved onto the PS3 versions.

When Modern Warfare came out, I loved the story mode through MW1, MW2 and finally MW3. Then it all started to go horribly wrong starting with the Black Ops games (sorry but I thought them to be absolutely sh1te) and now the advanced warfare crap has killed off CoD for me completely. Like come on, invisibility shields, being able to jump as high a Superman? It's like the developers went on drugs and lost the run of themselves. I bought the latest Black Ops for my son and it's pure garbage (even though he likes it).

Maybe I'm showing my age, but to me CoD was pure class from the first incarnation on pc right through to MW3 but that's where it nosedived off the cliff. Like come on, real world events right now are scary as hell so why can't we have "realistic" games where U.S. Special forces take on ISIS in Syria. Who'd object to blowing those scumbags away on a nightly basis? We don't need invisibility shields or being able to jump 50 feet into the air. Bring back some damn realism.

Right, rant over. I'm playing MW1 right through MW3 today for old times sake.

degrassinoel

i loved CoD 4, but that's the last CoD i loved, it broke me it was so good

J. Marston

Minutes silence? I'll piss on its grave.

dreamers75

Cod 4 had a nice balance then every game after that did not punish you for dying. In an online game not dying is importand COD doesnt care for that, you are back alive before your body hits the floor.


If you want realism Squad, Arma 3, R6 Siege might suit.

Sonics2k

TheZPPanda

I actually have found the Treyarch World at War and Black Ops games the best of the series myself but I don't really see a massive difference between any of the COD games.

muppetkiller

J. Marston wrote: »

Minutes silence? I'll piss on its grave.

Press A to piss on Grave

EoinHef

TheZPPanda wrote: »

I actually have found the Treyarch World at War and Black Ops games the best of the series myself but I don't really see a massive difference between any of the COD games.

Id agree,except for BLOPs 2 and 3. WaW and BLOPs 1 were both decent imo. MW2 was the death of CoD for me,noob tube and explosive spam,then the ridiculous kill streaks were the final straw for me.

Only reason to even look at any CoD for me now is the zombies mode included in treyarch games,which me and a few friends still enjoy.

n1ck

I would love the old school games back like World at War or the originals, I hate all the futuristic stuff they keep adding in every iteration.

RoyalMarine

Fondest memory is nazi zombies in world at war. Didn't like the newer versions. It lost it's dark seedy appeal when they brought in teleporters and that sh*t

IvoryTower

They should release all the zombie games together

Mourinho

Haven't been on in months due to the PC cacking itself but I'd say you'd love "Insurgency" you can get it via Steam can't recommend it highly enough.

FutureGuy

Played them all. Enjoying BO3. Fun game.

CiDeRmAn

I think you need to be careful portraying current events with a videogame.
It would be easy for it to slip into the type of crap we saw with the Soldier of Fortune games, becoming a minority slaughter simulator with none of the geopolitical nuance.
If you look at all of the post CoD3 games they are essentially science fiction, with a plotline borne of conspiracy theories.
A game mimicking the real goings on in the Middle East and you'd be more likely to find yourself playing a game like Spec Ops The Line, do you need to play a game featuring weddings and hospitals being flattened in error by an airstrike you order? Face the media afterwards?
Find yourself running for your life through the streets of Mogadishu, with your tale between your legs?

No, if you are pointing virtual guns at people let them be fascists, aliens, the PMC enforcers of the Industrial/Military combine, please

My favourite was Call of Duty 2 on the 360, back in 2005, good times.

pablomakaveli

Call of Duty has been a shambling corpse for years. The last one in enjoyed was probably WaW. MW2 was when it started to get silly. I have played a couple of the more recent ones but i find them boring and never feel the need to purchase them myself.

Its a shame really. COD2 had one of the best singleplayer campaigns of any FPS and COD4 was fantastic as well. But they lost their way a long time ago.

CiDeRmAn

Games come and go, Medal of Honor was the go to first person shooter for a long time, with a focus on single player story telling.
And then, with the onset of Call of Duty and Battlefield it was made less and less relevant.
There's so much choice now, with the likes of Destiny and everything else, CoD seems more like a money making racket, and it's single player campaign an after thought, and a brief one at that.
If it's single player craic your after it's no harm to dig into the back catalogues to play the likes of Prey and Bulletstorm, the latter being a complete riot.

Retr0gamer

I don't get the love for Call of Duty 2. It's not a bad game but I found it so disappointing compared to the first one. The levels were so small and short due to it being on console and the low amount of RAM, it just didn't have any of the epic moments of the original. I guess there's a lot of nostalgia for it because at the 360 launch it was a hell of a lot better than the likes of Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero.

Call of Duty 4 though was a revelation. Amazing single player campaign and a multiplayer mode that might have borrowed RPG elements from battlefield 2 but ended up informing all multiplayer from then on. I remember Halo 3 being hailed as the big multiplayer game of the generation and CoD4 came along and stole the show right from under it and rightfully so.

Activision at the moment are in the process of running the franchise into the ground. Instead of being like Nintendo, Bethesda or blizzard where every entry in their big IP series is a massive event they've made CoD boring with yearly updates. It happened before with Guitar Hero, they killed that genre dead and it will happen to CoD if it doesn't do something drastically new.

IvoryTower

Is it selling well?

Skatedude

It's simple really, COD games were all about the community, gamers having fun playing on large dedicated fast servers with plenty of mods, custom maps etc all which would simply autodownload so anyone could join in the games they liked.
Our community used to run 4 cod servers at a time from capture the flag to custom maps to zombies etc.

Then mw3 came out and we were no longer allowed to touch or change anything, no more fast large servers, just slow peer to peer, small numbers of players allowed and no mods or custom anything. and they wonder why it died? Any gamer could have told them, but they stopped listening and instead started telling us what we were supposed to want.

The latest COD makers have finally figured this out after too many disasters and are only just now adding back in dedicated servers and mod tools etc, ie going back to what made COD great, but probably too late.

SeantheMan

Domane wrote: »

When Modern Warfare came out, I loved the story mode through MW1, MW2 and finally MW3. Then it all started to go horribly wrong starting with the Black Ops games (sorry but I thought them to be absolutely sh1te) and now the advanced warfare crap has killed off CoD for me completely.

For me it all went downhill after COD4.
World at War wasn't that bad, and the next one MW2 wasn't a bad game in and of itself....however it came with IWNET....which ruined the online experience for PC gamers.

They removed dedicated servers, which removed the ability for mods or custom maps...which was part of what made COD4 so great.

It still like that now with the latest game on PC, there is no server browser which I find to be utterly ridiculous and unforgivable for a PC FPS in this day and age.

DeSelby83

Not a big fan of the recent call of dutys but $550 million in 3 days!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-generates-550-million-in-/1100-6432185/

I dont think call of duty is taking its last breath anytime soon

Techniques07

I'm surprised that people didn't like BLOPS2. It was the best cod since cod4 imo. Maybe not the single player but the multiplayer was great fun and played really well. Not a fan of the new one and will be my last cod for the foreseeable future.

Darkglasses

Got heavily into MW2 and MW3. I quite liked Ghosts, but never really got into Blops or AW. They're selling well enough though, so I wouldn't call it dead or anything like that. We just aren't the target market anymore.

Rorok

Advanced Wafare was sh1te, I know that turned alot off people of COD (also considering how ghost was good but not great) However withBO3 i have really enjoyed it (besides zombies Shadows of Evil is too long and too tricky)

FarmersMarket

I am thinking of a word. Damn what is it? Oh yeah! Hyperbole!

aaronjumper

I liked the Modern Warfares single player and BLOPS multiplayer is probably my preferred to date. Kind of went off the series because of Black Ops II.
It just felt like the same thing over and over at that point.

Haven't played any of them since Black Ops II, would any of ye say I'm missing out? What I've seen of them so far myself makes me think not.
Not saying I'm right, just wondering.

FarmersMarket wrote: »

I am thinking of a word. Damn what is it? Oh yeah! Hyperbole!

Does that come in a care package or do I have to unlock it?

Nollog

Domane wrote: »

I bought the latest Black Ops for my son and it's pure garbage (even though he likes it).

Meet the (new) target audience.

Horse84

/\/ollog wrote: »

Meet the (new) target audience.

I think therein lies the issue. I'm in the same boat. God I feel old lol

Akrasia

I liked black ops 1 but that might have mainly been because it was one of the few fps games on the wii and I liked the controls

Haven't bothered with the franchise on any other platform where choice was a lot broader

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Definitely feel like the franchise has passed me by. It's not about skill so much as sprinting around the maps trying to shoot people in the back. It's at least 70 % luck. I was a massive cod fan as far as blops 1,but interest waned after that. I've gotten the new one but honestly don't see me prestiging even once. It's bland, too fast and blatantly aimed at the 12 to 19 age bracket.

Charlie19

I totally agree with the OP, Call of Duty was the only gaming franchise I continued to play until BO2 was released.
This is how I rated the ones I liked.
MW
MW2
W@W
MW3
BO

The rest can go to f**k.

dreamers75

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Definitely feel like the franchise has passed me by. It's not about skill so much as sprinting around the maps trying to shoot people in the back. It's at least 70 % luck. I was a massive cod fan as far as blops 1,but interest waned after that. I've gotten the new one but honestly don't see me prestiging even once. It's bland, too fast and blatantly aimed at the 12 to 19 age bracket.

Disagree i have seen some exceptional players who are very skilled in the game.

My 11 year old is ridiculous at this game, I let him play for me on Blops3 and I was 29-2 and being called a hacker by people I know in TS

Im usually 1 for 1, the way he was playing was not something I would do but it worked. I check corners he didnt cos he didnt need too......

Skylinehead

COD4 is probably my favourite multiplayer shooter of all time, and I've played quite a few of them. Balance was perfect, and the map designs were great.

WAW, I think people are suffering a bit from WW2 COD nostalgia here. Atmosphere was lovely, Nazi Zombies is fantastic, but it suffered from terrible hit detection and horribly flawed weapon balance (that submachine gun being more powerful than bolt-action rifles!). Still ok though.

MW2 had major flaws, but it's still a fun game if you get the right sort of players.

Black Ops was alrightish, Vietnam was something new.

MW3 jumped the shark with gimmicks. Haven't played one since. Can we please just have a normal shooter with minimal perks/killstreaks ?

Hugo Stiglitz

World At War had a fantastic ending.

BoJack Horseman

I enjoyed the Black Ops 1 'numbers' storyline greatly.

The MW 2 & 3 stories were hopelessly terrible (the world war angle).

Haven't played a title since... they are too 'samey'.

CiDeRmAn

Treyarch were always the bridesmaid of the CoD world, always in second place to Infinity Ward, then when Activision and IW fell out in a spectacular way, Treyarch seemed to be elevated to "star" status and the previously poorly received World at War and Black Ops were reframed into their major series, with big money going into BLOPS2 and 3.
CoD:Ghosts flopped hard, in terms of reception afaik, though it sold buckets, and I haven't heard marvellous things about AW either.
Seems, with the gutting of IW and the team fecking off to make Titanfall as Respawn, and making a fine go at producing a new IP.
This all seems to back up the OP that CoD really is dead, as a goto title for shooter fans at least.

Deep Six

Totally agree with the OP, they have gone too futuristic with recent entries in the series and it has ruined it.

I got BO 3 before Xmas and only played 3 of the campaign missions before giving up. How did they go so far wrong to come from the brilliant Modern Warfare, to shooting ****ing robots non stop? I shouldn't be that surprised though - it's been steadily downhill since BO2 when the utterly ****ing dreadful Ghosts was released (seriously, I hope they just drop that idea without any sequels). I loved CoD from its first title all the way to MW and BO but I think I'm done now.

Hugo Stiglitz

Another WWII game would be great. I miss the simplicity of them.

super_furry

I thought Advanced Warfare was the best in the series since Black Ops but just couldn't get into Black Ops III. The multiplayer maps are really poor and there's just nothing to the single player campaign.

Why are you paying a minute's silence now when it's been dead for over a decade now? Call of Duty 1 was the last time it did anything revolutionary - now it's just dragging out the same crap with a nicer shade of paint.

dreamers75

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are you paying a minute's silence now when it's been dead for over a decade now? Call of Duty 1 was the last time it did anything revolutionary - now it's just dragging out the same crap with a nicer shade of paint.

That was a rehash of MOHAA brilliant but hardly revolutionary.

Zampella and west made mohaa as 2015

Agricola

Loved the old original COD's on pc back in the day. Last one I played was Modern Warfare. I'm not big on online MP, but enjoy a good SP campaign and would have kept buying them for that except they never seem to reduce in price very much. I've never seen a COD game going for a fiver in a sale, they hold their value like gold. So I just gave up on 'em.

dreamers75

dreamers75 wrote: »

That was a rehash of MOHAA brilliant but hardly revolutionary.

Zampella and west made mohaa as 2015

The original CoD was revolutionary in its own way. I remember there was one such small simple dynamic, where a shell goes off near you early in the game and it sent a ringing noise through the speakers and made everything go fuzzy on the game. It was so simple and obvious by today's standards, but it was so immersive. I think that's what a lot of the current generation of FPS gamers are missing out on; just how special those early touches truly were.

Having said that, the destructable objects in Battlefield 4 are good fun. I've died numerous times because I was watching a skyscraper collapse during online play.

ShadowHearth

I think it's clear that call of duty is not in trouble. There will be new cod each year and there will be new generation of young players who just dipping their toes in to call of duty and gaming in general.
A lot of us here are old farts when it comes to gaming and it's very hard to impress us. I know that from myself. Just a great example will be to all mmorpg veterans. We all remember so fondly our first proper mmorpg and how we tried so many "best new thing" and always come out disappointed.
I loved my first cods. I owned 2 copies of cod4, mw2, blops 1, because I loved them and played them on pc and 360.
I eventually buy and try all new cods, but I never buy them on day one since blops 1. I barely play them too.
Blops 2 was only cod that I really loved from newer ones and even then I did not planed it much as I had been played out of that formula.

Now I play arma 3 exile, cs go and dip in to hardline on xbox one when bored. I just became a bit more mature, boring and thinking fps player, not super twitch skill monster like I was in quake 2 and unreal tournament days. I get destroyed by 10 year olds on cod games, so my tome with franchise is ended. I'll let young ones have a blast.

Skylinehead

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are you paying a minute's silence now when it's been dead for over a decade now? Call of Duty 1 was the last time it did anything revolutionary - now it's just dragging out the same crap with a nicer shade of paint.

You have an even stranger definition of "dead" than the OP. Games don't have to do anything revolutionary to be fantastic.

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

You have an even stranger definition of "dead" than the OP. Games don't have to do anything revolutionary to be fantastic.

Dead to me.

Darkest Horse

I didn't like the transition from World War II to modern times but once they brought out MW1 I absolutely loved it. I could sense it going too far though so I always maintained that once it went too futuristic, which happened pretty much in MW2, I was out. I played and liked BLOPS1 but won't come back until they reel in the years a little and drop the stupidity. That may be never.

Deep Six

Darkest Horse wrote: »

I didn't like the transition from World War II to modern times but once they brought out MW1 I absolutely loved it. I could sense it going too far though so I always maintained that once it went too futuristic, which happened pretty much in MW2, I was out. I played and liked BLOPS1 but won't come back until they reel in the years a little and drop the stupidity. That may be never.

I feel we'll never see a modern or older setting for COD again. They've gone too far now and the section of the fanbase who suffer ADD and Tourette's simply wouldn't accept any less now than running along walls or somersaulting over rooftops or some other ridiculous "future" bollixology.

GekkePrutser

I actually loved BO 2 and MW2 the most. Not because of the campaigns, they're always rubbish IMO, but the multiplayer. That's what you buy CoD for anyway.

Who cares who shoots at whom. Often I don't even know whose side I'm on. Shoot the guys with the red nametags they must be bad!!

BloodBath

Modern warfare 1 was the last good COD game. MW2 was complete rubbish. Player hosted servers and an over emphasis on verticality in the map design as well as going OTT with the perk system killed the game as far as I'm concerned and it's never recovered since.

Battlefield is taking a similar turn these days but that's what happens when a series get's popular and the money hungry vampire publishers sink their teeth into the devs necks and suck all creativity out of them while influencing the games design for maximum profitability.

Todd Toddington III

I dunno if you fully understand what tourettes is Deep Six . MW2 and BO1 were fun, after that I stopped caring about the series. There's way more inventive games like h1z1 and arma out there to tickle my gaming itch.