Apple support is a joke!

gettafeck

I have an apple 5C. I got this from my service provider here in Ireland (Three). I bought it on my credit card and it was factory unlocked by Apple. After one month the phone battery started to fully discharge within 2 hours. This is the second time I have had this problem with a 5C. Went through all the trouble shooting with Apple, AGAIN, but it did not fix the problem. I called Apple again and after a VERY long time I had to speak to a supervisor as the solutions given to me were of no help i.e. go to the nearest Apple store. The nearest Apple store is in another country! This didn't seem to phase the woman I was talking to. The supervisor called Joao apologised and said he was SOO sorry and he was making it his personal quest to help me. He said that he would send out a replacement phone and I was to send back my 5C with the courier. GREAT. Then he said that he had to take 327 euros of my credit card until he received. So I had np option but to agree to that! 10 days later I had heard nothing from Apple. No email, no calls, NO PHONE. I called apple support again and after spending another 20 minutes waiting I spoke to a women who was called Nuano (I think that is the spelling). I started to tell her the problem and in short, halfway through my explaining she talked over me and said that the order was cancelled. I asked why I had not been told of this and she said that it was not Apples problem and it was up to me to call them for an update. I said that this was not the sort of customer support I would expect from Apple and she said , well that is how it is and then hung up!!! She was the rudest most ignorant person I have ever had the misfortune to speak too. As I was very angry over this and called support again and spoke to a lovely lady called Jill who listened both to my issue with the phone AND Nuano, who should be fired. She said this was not acceptable and she put me through to a supervisor called Joe Sacchieri Now we are going on 50 minutes for this phone call!

Joe was very sympathetic (nothing new there) and said that he would be reporting Nueno and he would personally take care of my issue with the phone and get back to me. I thought I was getting somewhere. 5 days later and a few email from me and nothing so I called again. Went through the whole issue again with a guy called Glen. He apologised on behalf of Apple (I this this is the only thing these idiots are trained to do). Told me that the order was cancelled AGAIN and that was that.

I received and email this morning which read :

We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.

I have never returned anything to Apple! I have the receipt from my credit card to say it was me who bought the phone from Three. It was unlocked by Apple and the unlock code sent to my email address. How much more evidence do you need to know that this phone is mine.

Apple support is a timewasting joke. Lots of apologies and nothing else. I am absolutely disgusted with the amount of time I have wasted on this. Apple are now so big that the ordinary person means nothing.
What do I do now????

Zapp Brannigan

Talk to Three? That's who your guarantee is with as you purchased from them.

stoksyXL

Think you have to go back to three about this.

I've bought all my apple products directly from Apple for years and years and I can vouch for them as being 100% helpful and solving any issues I've had with my products, and I've had loads of problems and phones / iPads sent back and exchanged.

I think they see it as three's problem as you got the phone from them.

Championship Vinyl

Strange, when I got mine through Vodafone, I contacted Apple and they replaced a phone for me in a week. That was about 6 months ago...

Maybe it has something to do with how stock is handled between them and Three?

guil

gettafeck wrote: »

I have an apple 5C. I got this from my service provider here in Ireland (Three). I bought it on my credit card and it was factory unlocked by Apple. After one month the phone battery started to fully discharge within 2 hours. This is the second time I have had this problem with a 5C. Went through all the trouble shooting with Apple, AGAIN, but it did not fix the problem. I called Apple again and after a VERY long time I had to speak to a supervisor as the solutions given to me were of no help i.e. go to the nearest Apple store. The nearest Apple store is in another country! This didn't seem to phase the woman I was talking to. The supervisor called Joao apologised and said he was SOO sorry and he was making it his personal quest to help me. He said that he would send out a replacement phone and I was to send back my 5C with the courier. GREAT. Then he said that he had to take 327 euros of my credit card until he received. So I had np option but to agree to that! 10 days later I had heard nothing from Apple. No email, no calls, NO PHONE. I called apple support again and after spending another 20 minutes waiting I spoke to a women who was called Nuano (I think that is the spelling). I started to tell her the problem and in short, halfway through my explaining she talked over me and said that the order was cancelled. I asked why I had not been told of this and she said that it was not Apples problem and it was up to me to call them for an update. I said that this was not the sort of customer support I would expect from Apple and she said , well that is how it is and then hung up!!! She was the rudest most ignorant person I have ever had the misfortune to speak too. As I was very angry over this and called support again and spoke to a lovely lady called Jill who listened both to my issue with the phone AND Nuano, who should be fired. She said this was not acceptable and she put me through to a supervisor called Joe Sacchieri Now we are going on 50 minutes for this phone call!

Joe was very sympathetic (nothing new there) and said that he would be reporting Nueno and he would personally take care of my issue with the phone and get back to me. I thought I was getting somewhere. 5 days later and a few email from me and nothing so I called again. Went through the whole issue again with a guy called Glen. He apologised on behalf of Apple (I this this is the only thing these idiots are trained to do). Told me that the order was cancelled AGAIN and that was that.

I received and email this morning which read :

We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.

I have never returned anything to Apple! I have the receipt from my credit card to say it was me who bought the phone from Three. It was unlocked by Apple and the unlock code sent to my email address. How much more evidence do you need to know that this phone is mine.

Apple support is a timewasting joke. Lots of apologies and nothing else. I am absolutely disgusted with the amount of time I have wasted on this. Apple are now so big that the ordinary person means nothing.
What do I do now????

That's a nice story but by the end of it you forgot what you said at the start.

naasrd

gettafeck wrote: »

I have an apple 5C. I got this from my service provider here in Ireland (Three). I bought it on my credit card and it was factory unlocked by Apple. After one month the phone battery started to fully discharge within 2 hours. This is the second time I have had this problem with a 5C. Went through all the trouble shooting with Apple, AGAIN, but it did not fix the problem. I called Apple again and after a VERY long time I had to speak to a supervisor as the solutions given to me were of no help i.e. go to the nearest Apple store. The nearest Apple store is in another country! This didn't seem to phase the woman I was talking to. The supervisor called Joao apologised and said he was SOO sorry and he was making it his personal quest to help me. He said that he would send out a replacement phone and I was to send back my 5C with the courier. GREAT. Then he said that he had to take 327 euros of my credit card until he received. So I had np option but to agree to that! 10 days later I had heard nothing from Apple. No email, no calls, NO PHONE. I called apple support again and after spending another 20 minutes waiting I spoke to a women who was called Nuano (I think that is the spelling). I started to tell her the problem and in short, halfway through my explaining she talked over me and said that the order was cancelled. I asked why I had not been told of this and she said that it was not Apples problem and it was up to me to call them for an update. I said that this was not the sort of customer support I would expect from Apple and she said , well that is how it is and then hung up!!! She was the rudest most ignorant person I have ever had the misfortune to speak too. As I was very angry over this and called support again and spoke to a lovely lady called Jill who listened both to my issue with the phone AND Nuano, who should be fired. She said this was not acceptable and she put me through to a supervisor called Joe Sacchieri Now we are going on 50 minutes for this phone call!

Joe was very sympathetic (nothing new there) and said that he would be reporting Nueno and he would personally take care of my issue with the phone and get back to me. I thought I was getting somewhere. 5 days later and a few email from me and nothing so I called again. Went through the whole issue again with a guy called Glen. He apologised on behalf of Apple (I this this is the only thing these idiots are trained to do). Told me that the order was cancelled AGAIN and that was that.

I received and email this morning which read :

We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.

I have never returned anything to Apple! I have the receipt from my credit card to say it was me who bought the phone from Three. It was unlocked by Apple and the unlock code sent to my email address. How much more evidence do you need to know that this phone is mine.

Apple support is a timewasting joke. Lots of apologies and nothing else. I am absolutely disgusted with the amount of time I have wasted on this. Apple are now so big that the ordinary person means nothing.
What do I do now????

Head to another country, or as some of us here call it; Belfast.

Rgb.ie

Had similar experience with apple support, couldn't use express repair for some unknown reason.

Headed up to Belfast and got it changed on the spot.

RoyalMarine

is it so hard to drive to Belfast??

xband

It's very odd that they've no retail here at all.

Some legacy agreement signed with retailers perhaps?

newacc2015

RoyalMarine wrote: »

is it so hard to drive to Belfast??

Why should someone have to travel to another country as it is more convenient for the manufacturer? Apple are the only company that I know of that tells a consumer to just go to their store with their defect product. Any other retailer like Amazon will it convenient and easy for customers to return damaged products. Apple are generally quite difficult to deal with regarding faulty products.

If someone was living in rural America. I seriously doubt they tell them to also travel 3/4 hours to the next major city with an apple store. The idea that someone must send serving hours driving, spend money on transport just because it save the company time and money is ridiculous IMO.

Tipsy McSwagger

newacc2015 wrote: »

Why should someone have to travel to another country as it is more convenient for the manufacturer? Apple are the only company that I know of that tells a consumer to just go to their store with their defect product. Any other retailer like Amazon will it convenient and easy for customers to return damaged products. Apple are generally quite difficult to deal with regarding faulty products.

If someone was living in rural America. I seriously doubt they tell them to also travel 3/4 hours to the next major city with an apple store. The idea that someone must send serving hours driving, spend money on transport just because it save the company time and money is ridiculous IMO.

or just use the mail option which apple will offer

shanec1928

newacc2015 wrote: »

Why should someone have to travel to another country as it is more convenient for the manufacturer? Apple are the only company that I know of that tells a consumer to just go to their store with their defect product. Any other retailer like Amazon will it convenient and easy for customers to return damaged products. Apple are generally quite difficult to deal with regarding faulty products.

If someone was living in rural America. I seriously doubt they tell them to also travel 3/4 hours to the next major city with an apple store. The idea that someone must send serving hours driving, spend money on transport just because it save the company time and money is ridiculous IMO.

at least compare like for like..

Cyrus

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

or just use the mail option which apple will offer

would be great if apple had any ability to provide ups with the correct address, the hassle i have had with the postage service is unbelievable

jamesd

RoyalMarine wrote: »

is it so hard to drive to Belfast??

Belfast is a long drive for some people in this country.

Tipsy McSwagger

Cyrus wrote: »

would be great if apple had any ability to provide ups with the correct address, the hassle i have had with the postage service is unbelievable

That a UPS issue, apple confirm the address with the customer and then pass that on to UPS.

rraido

gettafeck wrote: »

I have an apple 5C. I got this from my service provider here in Ireland (Three). I bought it on my credit card and it was factory unlocked by Apple. After one month the phone battery started to fully discharge within 2 hours. This is the second time I have had this problem with a 5C. Went through all the trouble shooting with Apple, AGAIN, but it did not fix the problem. I called Apple again and after a VERY long time I had to speak to a supervisor as the solutions given to me were of no help i.e. go to the nearest Apple store. The nearest Apple store is in another country! This didn't seem to phase the woman I was talking to. The supervisor called Joao apologised and said he was SOO sorry and he was making it his personal quest to help me. He said that he would send out a replacement phone and I was to send back my 5C with the courier. GREAT. Then he said that he had to take 327 euros of my credit card until he received. So I had np option but to agree to that! 10 days later I had heard nothing from Apple. No email, no calls, NO PHONE. I called apple support again and after spending another 20 minutes waiting I spoke to a women who was called Nuano (I think that is the spelling). I started to tell her the problem and in short, halfway through my explaining she talked over me and said that the order was cancelled. I asked why I had not been told of this and she said that it was not Apples problem and it was up to me to call them for an update. I said that this was not the sort of customer support I would expect from Apple and she said , well that is how it is and then hung up!!! She was the rudest most ignorant person I have ever had the misfortune to speak too. As I was very angry over this and called support again and spoke to a lovely lady called Jill who listened both to my issue with the phone AND Nuano, who should be fired. She said this was not acceptable and she put me through to a supervisor called Joe Sacchieri Now we are going on 50 minutes for this phone call!

Joe was very sympathetic (nothing new there) and said that he would be reporting Nueno and he would personally take care of my issue with the phone and get back to me. I thought I was getting somewhere. 5 days later and a few email from me and nothing so I called again. Went through the whole issue again with a guy called Glen. He apologised on behalf of Apple (I this this is the only thing these idiots are trained to do). Told me that the order was cancelled AGAIN and that was that.

I received and email this morning which read :

We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.

I have never returned anything to Apple! I have the receipt from my credit card to say it was me who bought the phone from Three. It was unlocked by Apple and the unlock code sent to my email address. How much more evidence do you need to know that this phone is mine.

Apple support is a timewasting joke. Lots of apologies and nothing else. I am absolutely disgusted with the amount of time I have wasted on this. Apple are now so big that the ordinary person means nothing.
What do I do now????

I've had to ring Apple on numerous occasions with problems on different devices. Anytime I got put through to a supervisor I always ask for their direct telephone number at the start of the conversation and they always give it. I then deal with them directly after that until any problems resolved. Keep at it until you get it sorted.

guil

newacc2015 wrote: »

Why should someone have to travel to another country as it is more convenient for the manufacturer? Apple are the only company that I know of that tells a consumer to just go to their store with their defect product. Any other retailer like Amazon will it convenient and easy for customers to return damaged products. Apple are generally quite difficult to deal with regarding faulty products.

If someone was living in rural America. I seriously doubt they tell them to also travel 3/4 hours to the next major city with an apple store. The idea that someone must send serving hours driving, spend money on transport just because it save the company time and money is ridiculous IMO.

Name other manufacturers that deal directly with a consumer and don't send them back to the retailer they purchased the device from.

RoyalMarine

I worked in Apple for a long time.

In order to speak to a supervisor, you either have to be rude to the point where the agent can't deal with you, or you request one.

In 99% of cases, your passed to a senior technical adviser to resolve the issue if the first agent can't resolve it for you.

The senior department are the supervisors who take these calls.

Based on the OP's description, I don't think this is all one sided towards Apple being at fault.

Cyrus

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

That a UPS issue, apple confirm the address with the customer and then pass that on to UPS.

im not convinced UPS is at fault and the driver said to me half the addresses from apple are incomplete

Grab All Association

guil wrote: »

That's a nice story but by the end of it you forgot what you said at the start.

gettafeck wrote: »

This is the second time I have had this problem with a 5C.

Maybe his first 5c was out of warranty or second hand.

whiterebel

Cyrus wrote: »

im not convinced UPS is at fault and the driver said to me half the addresses from apple are incomplete

There used to be a problem with the transfer of information between Apple and some courier systems, but that was long ago and shouldn't be still occurring now. TNT in particular could only get 75% of some Irish addresses.

gettafeck

Thanks for all the comments but I would just like to clarify a few things.
Yes, the first 5c was out of warranty by one month so was told by Apple that they could not fix the problem and it was not their problem. Fair enough. But a second phone one month old? Not accepting that.
I live in Welford so a 4 hour plus trip to Belfast was not an option. AND despite any political views it is part of the UK so yes it is another country.
The attitude of the Apple staff was appalling. There's no other way to say this,
So I will try Three and see if I can get any joy out of them. And if the phone is replaced it is going straight on to adverts.ie! I don't ever want to have to deal with these gob****es again.

Tipsy McSwagger

gettafeck wrote: »

Thanks for all the comments but I would just like to clarify a few things.
Yes, the first 5c was out of warranty by one month so was told by Apple that they could not fix the problem and it was not their problem. Fair enough. But a second phone one month old? Not accepting that.
I live in Welford so a 4 hour plus trip to Belfast was not an option. AND despite any political views it is part of the UK so yes it is another country.
The attitude of the Apple staff was appalling. There's no other way to say this,
So I will try Three and see if I can get any joy out of them. And if the phone is replaced it is going straight on to adverts.ie! I don't ever want to have to deal with these gob****es again.

There's a lot of info you are leaving out. What reason did Apple give for not fixing your second phone? Why was the repair cancelled? Why did you have to speak to a senior advisor? Why didn't you go to 3 straight away? What do you mean Apple unlocked your phone? Apple don't unlock iPhones, they sell them unlocked but don't unlock them.

gettafeck

I didn't actually as it is not in my nature unless people dont do the job they are paid to do. If you took the time to read my complete post I gave the reason that Apple emailed to me. That was the full content. Nothing more.
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We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.
Unquote
You are very defensive about Apple. I am guessing there is a connection as I do not sense any impartiality.

Mehapoy

gettafeck wrote: »

I didn't actually as it is not in my nature unless people dont do the job they are paid to do. If you took the time to read my complete post I gave the reason that Apple emailed to me. That was the full content. Nothing more.
Quote
We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.
Unquote
You are very defensive about Apple. I am guessing there is a connection as I do not sense any impartiality.

Yes I found Apple support very hard to deal with, very good when you're on the phone to them but delivered very little, not sure their worth the premium you pay after dealing with their support, would still possibly buy an apple computer but the phones, apple TV etc. I'd go for other just as good but miles cheaper options...

Tipsy McSwagger

gettafeck wrote: »

I didn't actually as it is not in my nature unless people dont do the job they are paid to do. If you took the time to read my complete post I gave the reason that Apple emailed to me. That was the full content. Nothing more.
Quote
We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.
Unquote
You are very defensive about Apple. I am guessing there is a connection as I do not sense any impartiality.

So you basically lied about something in a previous repair, cheers that clears things up.

gettafeck

My thoughts exactely. Have a Samsung now. Better software, better battery and not tied to apples outdated policies.
Anyway that was the last apple product in this house. Thanks for your input.

gettafeck

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

So you basically lied about something in a previous repair, cheers that clears things up.

Tut tut. Again, you didn't (OR CANT) read the post. As I said I have never returned anything to Apple so more inaccuracies from them (and you) so if you want to comment , and to avoid waasting my time, then please read the entire post. But seriously, your comments are of no help so I won't be reading any more from you..

whiterebel

Your story doesn't make a lot of sense.
You bought a 5c from Three yet Apple unlocked it by sending you a code on email? That isn't the way unlocking works, Three will request an unlock after €130 is paid in PAYG credit, or if the contract is paid up in full. Three don't sell unlocked iPhones. There is no code sent, you normally sync with iTunes, or you may just need to put in a new SIM card, or Three may text you to tell you it is ready to unlock.
Why you didn't follow up with Three with the phone is a mystery, your contract is with them, not Apple.
It looks like there is a problem with the proof of purchase, which again, you may need to sort out with Three.

gettafeck

whiterebel wrote: »

Your story doesn't make a lot of sense.
You bought a 5c from Three yet Apple unlocked it by sending you a code on email? That isn't the way unlocking works, Three will request an unlock after €130 is paid in PAYG credit, or if the contract is paid up in full. Three don't sell unlocked iPhones. There is no code sent, you normally sync with iTunes, or you may just need to put in a new SIM card, or Three may text you to tell you it is ready to unlock.
Why you didn't follow up with Three with the phone is a mystery, your contract is with them, not Apple.
It looks like there is a problem with the proof of purchase, which again, you may need to sort out with Three.

Hi I am not on PAYG. I am on bill pay and was due an upgrade so I got the 5c. As I am with three for years. I requested an unlock code which they sent to me. The phone was bought direct from three and unlocked. The issue I have is that the battery is fully depleting within two hours. Three said that I should deal with apple directly but due to the inadequate service I will return it to three. Thanks for the suggestions.

guil

gettafeck wrote: »

Hi I am not on PAYG. I am on bill pay and was due an upgrade so I got the 5c. As I am with three for years. I requested an unlock code which they sent to me. The phone was bought direct from three and unlocked. The issue I have is that the battery is fully depleting within two hours. Three said that I should deal with apple directly but due to the inadequate service I will return it to three. Thanks for the suggestions.

Fair play to you cos three won't unlock any iPhone until the contract is paid if you are on bill pay.

It even says so in their help section.
http://ask3.three.ie/srvs/cgi-bin/webisapi.dll/,/?new,kb=ROIWebportal,ts=ROIWeb,t=CaseDoc.tem,case=obj(6242),varset_username=ROIWeb:ROIWebUser

naasrd

gettafeck wrote: »

I requested an unlock code which they sent to me.

This can't be true. Unlock codes are not "sent", infact I doubt there are even "codes". All iPhone are unlocked via iTunes.

Eugene Norman

gettafeck wrote: »

I didn't actually as it is not in my nature unless people dont do the job they are paid to do. If you took the time to read my complete post I gave the reason that Apple emailed to me. That was the full content. Nothing more.
Quote
We regret that we are unable to reactivate this repair using the provided POP. Apple previously denied the Express Replacement service request for this customer. Discrepancies were found in previous customer returned products and/or Proof of Purchase.
Unquote
You are very defensive about Apple. I am guessing there is a connection as I do not sense any impartiality.

Apple keep getting the best reviews in the business for their support. Looks like they think you are pulling a fast one.

Eugene Norman

naasrd wrote: »

This can't be true. Unlock codes are not "sent", infact I doubt there are even "codes". All iPhone are unlocked via iTunes.

There's a sim unlock. It's odd that three would say "talk to Apple" though.

whiterebel

Eugene Norman wrote: »

There's a sim unlock. It's odd that three would say "talk to Apple" though.

That is how iPhones are sim unlocked.

Eugene Norman

whiterebel wrote: »

That is how iPhones are sim unlocked.

Taking to Apple? No.

whiterebel

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Taking to Apple? No.

Sorry, you've lost me completely now.

guil

Eugene Norman wrote: »

There's a sim unlock. It's odd that three would say "talk to Apple" though.

Do you know how the sim unlock is done?

Eugene Norman

guil wrote: »

Do you know how the sim unlock is done?

Yes. Nothing to do with the manufacturer.

I suppose the question is do you know what a sim unlock is?

Eugene Norman

whiterebel wrote: »

Sorry, you've lost me completely now.

Really. Sim unlocks are done by carriers. Apple has other locks on the device not related to sims.

whiterebel

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Really. Sim unlocks are done by carriers. Apple has other locks on the device not related to sims.

Phew, I thought for a minute I was confused, but it turns out its you.
The carrier requests the sim unlock from Apple. Apple send the unlock to the phone via iTunes.
I'd imagine Guil will be along in a while to ask you if you know what a sim unlock is.

Tipsy McSwagger

whiterebel wrote: »

Phew, I thought for a minute I was confused, but it turns out its you.
The carrier requests the sim unlock from Apple. Apple send the unlock to the phone via iTunes.
I'd imagine Guil will be along in a while to ask you if you know what a sim unlock is.

Are you talking about unlocking the iPhone by restoring it through iTunes? There's 2 ways to unlock an iPhone, once approved by a carrier just take out the sim and pop in a sim from a different carrier or if you don't have a sim from another carrier restore through iTunes. I don't know what you're on about saying the carrier requests the sim unlock from Apple when Apple have nothing to do with unlocking iPhones.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT201328

whiterebel

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Are you talking about unlocking the iPhone by restoring it through iTunes? There's 2 ways to unlock an iPhone, once approved by a carrier just take out the sim and pop in a sim from a different carrier or if you don't have a sim from another carrier restore through iTunes. I don't know what you're on about saying the carrier requests the sim unlock from Apple when Apple have nothing to do with unlocking iPhones.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT201328

The carrier requests the unlock from Apple. The unlocks are sent direct form Apple servers. Carriers are not the ones who lock the phones, apparently they lock to the first sim card that is put in, unless it is bought unlocked from Apple.
Apple won't deal with an unlock request direct from a customer, only from the carrier, maybe thats where the confusion is arising.
All your link says it that you must contact your carrier first to begin the process: "First, your carrier will need to process your unlock request."
And BTW, even Apple have it wrong because most times you don't need to erase and restore to unlock.


Here is a part of an email received from Eir customer service: "The email that is sent to our iPhone customers when the unlocking code is available was provided to eMobile by Apple."

creativedrinker

If your in Dublin pop into compub at trinity college, I went there with a 5 with lightning connection problems and had a replacement in 1-2 days

guil

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Really. Sim unlocks are done by carriers. Apple has other locks on the device not related to sims.

What other "locks" have apple got on an iPhone?

whiterebel

guil wrote: »

What other "locks" have apple got on an iPhone?

iCloud lock?

guil

whiterebel wrote: »

iCloud lock?

Completely forgot about that.

xband

A few issues:

1. Under Irish and European consumer law, your contract is whoever you *bought* the phone from, not the manufacturer.

If you bought your phone in an Apple Store or from Apple.com, then you're Apple's customer and their support is really top notch in my experience anyway.

So, if you bought from 3, then you need to deal with 3 contractually.

2. In general, I haven't had any issues at all with Apple support.

3. Why aren't you using the mail in option? Apple will send you a courier with a box to place your phone in. It goes back, the repair / replacement is done and you'll get it back.

4. The SIM lock is technically implemented on Apple's servers but it's controlled by the carrier eg Three Ireland, who sold it locked. Apple can't unlock the phone. As far as I'm aware, the carriers have an API on their systems connected to Apple so they actually control the unlock requests.

5. They're not locked to the first SIM card inserted. If the phone is sold by a carrier with a network lock, it's registered as locked on apple's servers. So, when you activate the phone it will check for the network's SIM card and won't accept anything else.

6. There are no iPhone unlock codes. They're locked / unlocked by a push message from an activation server.

Gumbo

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Are you talking about unlocking the iPhone by restoring it through iTunes? There's 2 ways to unlock an iPhone, once approved by a carrier just take out the sim and pop in a sim from a different carrier or if you don't have a sim from another carrier restore through iTunes. I don't know what you're on about saying the carrier requests the sim unlock from Apple when Apple have nothing to do with unlocking iPhones.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT201328

I think you missed this line :

First, your carrier will need to process your unlock request

This is the carrier submitting to Apple that it is ok to unlock this phone. Apple don't oversee any unlocks as long as the carrier requests it.

Flaccus

There are also 3rd party companies such as repair companies, 2nd hand resellers, that are authorised by apple to unlock devices. You see them popping up on eBay but of course Apple charge them a significant amount to unlock their iPhones which is why it's always an expensive proposition. But it is a valid alternative if you can't wait for your carrier to do it.

I've used sim-unlock.net a couple of times with great success. Interestingly they charge 24.99 for a permanent unlock of an iPhone 6S Plus on VF but the same unlock on 3 costs well over 80 euro. Again they use the apple database just like the carriers.

http://sim-unlock.net/site/Iphone/6S_Plus/

whiterebel

Flaccus wrote: »

There are also 3rd party companies such as repair companies, 2nd hand resellers, that are authorised by apple to unlock devices. You see them popping up on eBay but of course Apple charge them a significant amount to unlock their iPhones which is why it's always an expensive proposition. But it is a valid alternative if you can't wait for your carrier to do it.

I very much doubt they are authorised by Apple to unlock. They seems to be able to get their hands on the IMEI numbers for certain carriers to get them unlocked.
One of the carriers they cannot unlock are eMobile/Meteor. For a long time they couldn't do Three Ireland.