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Handouts for dairy farmers.

  • 20-12-2015 11:00am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭


    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Definitely the most favoured by the powers in control. The Xmas handout was a joke but if it's on offer you'd take it.
    Just a jealous beef farmer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??

    I suppose beef prices didn't fall by 40 % in a year though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    farmertipp wrote: »
    I suppose beef prices didn't fall by 40 % in a year though

    What about cereals?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    farmertipp wrote: »
    I suppose beef prices didn't fall by 40 % in a year though

    It dropped from a record high though. And at current prices, dairy farmers are still making money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    It dropped from a record high though. And at current prices, dairy farmers are still making money

    +1.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??

    You must have nothing on today

    Rise a row in a graveyard:):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    farmertipp wrote: »
    I suppose beef prices didn't fall by 40 % in a year though

    High prices always cure high prices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??
    Dairy farmers work the hardest so they should be rewarded the most. Everybody else are lazy feckers, so they should get nothing.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Are you talking about 17m taken from BDGP and given to dairy sector?

    Why didn't the ppl who applied for the BDGP simply not get their payments topped up?

    There are a few expenses with the scheme, if it had been over subscribed we wouldn't be long seeing a cut, same way as reps was cut when all the dairy farmers with nitrates derrogation joined in 2009.

    Rant over.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Luckily I started dairying this year just in time for my Christmas bonus :) Not many making money from beef and many have a job as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??

    Not all dairy farmers get the handout!

    Only those who are part of the global supply chain get it. The rest of us have to fend for ourselves, perhaps our milk isn't milky enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    You must have nothing on today

    Rise a row in a graveyard:):)

    :):)

    Slow day today. Show jumping competition. Yawn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »
    Not all dairy farmers get the handout!

    Only those who are part of the global supply chain get it. The rest of us have to fend for ourselves, perhaps our milk isn't milky enough.

    Nothing fair about that!
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    kowtow wrote: »
    Not all dairy farmers get the handout!

    Only those who are part of the global supply chain get it. The rest of us have to fend for ourselves, perhaps our milk isn't milky enough.

    Or white enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Or white enough

    Yeah the cream on the top of his milk would be 'yella' :D

    p.s. kowtow do you do a christmas cheese hamper or is it a single type of cheese you produce? l wouldnt mind purchasing if possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Dawggone wrote: »
    What about cereals?

    The crunchy nut corn flakes are still the same price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Muckit wrote: »
    Yeah the cream on the top of his milk would be 'yella' :D

    p.s. kowtow do you do a christmas cheese hamper or is it a single type of cheese you produce? l wouldnt mind purchasing if possible.

    You'll have to wait until next year I'm afraid - not producing commercially yet, still experimenting & deciding what we are going to produce particularly for the export market.

    But I'll be relying on this forum for a body of strong stomached testers. The pigs can only eat so much of the stuff.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    kowtow wrote: »
    You'll have to wait until next year I'm afraid - not producing commercially yet, still experimenting & deciding what we are going to produce particularly for the export market.

    But I'll be relying on this forum for a body of strong stomached testers. The pigs can only eat so much of the stuff.....
    I volunteer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    kowtow wrote: »
    You'll have to wait until next year I'm afraid - not producing commercially yet, still experimenting & deciding what we are going to produce particularly for the export market.

    But I'll be relying on this forum for a body of strong stomached testers. The pigs can only eat so much of the stuff.....


    me me me! pick me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,223 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Is this payment not just electioneering. Keep farmers sweet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    me me me! pick me!

    Bugger off o got there first :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Local tiny shop is stocking Isle of Man black pepper cheeses. Get your stuff out there on the shelves!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Is this payment not just electioneering. Keep farmers sweet.

    Probably, but farmers, like everyone else would want to be cuckoo to turf this government out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,223 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Probably, but farmers, like everyone else would want to be cuckoo to turf this government out

    In fairness there's feck all alternative there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    whelan2 wrote: »
    In fairness there's feck all alternative there

    Ain't that the inconvenient truth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    kowtow wrote: »
    Not all dairy farmers get the handout!

    Only those who are part of the global supply chain get it. The rest of us have to fend for ourselves, perhaps our milk isn't milky enough.

    What dairy farmers won't be getting payment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    F&F is definitely run by the dairy men!
    Ah Lads!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    whelan2 wrote: »
    In fairness there's feck all alternative there

    Oh there is a potentially disastrous alternative if people are complacent enough to allow it to happen
    Imagine Wallace minister for justice, Claire Daley in Finance and Paul Murphy in the dept of Agriculture

    We wouldn't be worrying about payments then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,223 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Dawggone wrote: »
    F&F is definitely run by the dairy men!
    Ah Lads!

    Ahem!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Ahem!

    Whelan......the strong arm of the F&F dairy extremists!

    Frazzled does the politics.
    MF240 is the hawk of the organization.
    Kowtow the dove/idealist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Whelan......the strong arm of the F&F dairy extremists!

    Frazzled does the politics.
    MF240 is the hawk of the organization.
    Kowtow the dove/idealist.

    .......and you are the agitator......!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Are dairy farmers favored over all others?

    Is it fair that the supposedly most profitable enterprise gets a handout for Xmas, when other farmers are genuinely struggling and get nothing??

    It's actually a really good question. What put us in a position that we are the pets?

    As far as I can see the other sectors are in bother with shyte prices and I include veg, pigs and poultry in this.

    Where is this money being magicked from?

    How much are we getting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    .......and you are the agitator......!

    Lol!
    I'm only an outsider looking in. I can never be allowed into the dairy mafia because I have a diet feeder! I suppose that's why I got no Xmas bonus like you guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dawggone wrote: »
    F&F is definitely run by the dairy men!
    Ah Lads!

    That's cos us beef lads are a dying breed it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,493 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    whelan2 wrote: »
    In fairness there's feck all alternative there

    Could any of us imagine the scenario if Sein fein ever see power .......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Whelan......the strong arm of the F&F dairy extremists!
    Kowtow the dove/idealist.

    I've been called a lot of things in my life but never until today a Dove!

    I can hear Ayn Rand and any number of trading room messengers spinning in their graves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Could any of us imagine the scenario if Sein fein ever see power .......

    No Xmas handouts!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Dawggone wrote: »
    No Xmas handouts!!!

    No xmas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »
    I've been called a lot of things in my life but never until today a Dove!

    I can hear Ayn Rand and any number of trading room messengers spinning in their graves.

    (What's the root of all money?)


    Traders turned cheesemakers tend to be more philosophical and idealistic.
    Didn't Rand say that pointing out the very obvious is almost impossible to explain to those who don't wish to see?

    Just like this thread. :)



    Edit. Ye will be glad to hear that I got caught doing 157kph on the way home by an unmarked cop car. I'd say that they would have seized the jeep if there wasn't a horse in the box.
    Karma?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    Dawggone wrote: »
    (What's the root of all money?)


    Traders turned cheesemakers tend to be more philosophical and idealistic.
    Didn't Rand say that pointing out the very obvious is almost impossible to explain to those who don't wish to see?

    Just like this thread. :)



    Edit. Ye will be glad to hear that I got caught doing 157kph on the way home by an unmarked cop car. I'd say that they would have seized the jeep if there wasn't a horse in the box.
    Karma?
    That's fair moving, was it not fish tailing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Miname wrote: »
    That's fair moving, was it not fish tailing.

    God no!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    Dawggone wrote: »
    God no!

    I wouldn't be used to horse boxes but cattle boxes and builders trailers seem to start getting giddy around the 100-120 kph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Miname wrote: »
    I wouldn't be used to horse boxes but cattle boxes and builders trailers seem to start getting giddy around the 100-120 kph.

    Jaysus a jeep would get giddy at 157kph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    It's actually a really good question. What put us in a position that we are the pets?

    As far as I can see the other sectors are in bother with shyte prices and I include veg, pigs and poultry in this.

    Where is this money being magicked from?

    How much are we getting?

    The money is coming from the shortfall in the BDGP aimed at suckler farmers but made worthless because of ridiculously onerous conditions and leaving a 17 m surplus.
    Better to just hand it to dairy farmers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    If he caught ya doing 157 what were ya doing before ya hit the anchors?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    God no!

    RR?
    Can't think of many hitting 160 with a box and 750kg payload


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    It's actually a really good question. What put us in a position that we are the pets?

    As far as I can see the other sectors are in bother with shyte prices and I include veg, pigs and poultry in this.

    Where is this money being magicked from?

    How much are we getting?

    we are only getting money because the french lads made such a fuss.my coNtacts in France tell me it was all started over there by a fella that moved over from Ireland.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    RR?
    /quote]

    Those British yokes would only breakdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    keep going wrote: »
    we are only getting money because the french lads made such a fuss.my coNtacts in France tell me it was all started over there by a fella that moved over from Ireland.......


    Yes, relentless lobbying on behalf of Irish dairy farmers.
    Must be worth €200/300k p.a.
    I presume yeez will pay me on receipt of the handout (before you give it to charity!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Jaysus a jeep would get giddy at 157kph

    Mines ok at 210 :(
    Not my wisest decision


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