Biblical References by Prison Mods is insulting

uck51js9zml2yt

While I enjoy reading the witty reposts by mods in the Prison Forum.

Can I ask why there is suddenly a usage of Bible verses to score/make points?

Personally, as a Christian, I find it offensive that writings which I and many others consider the inspired Word of God (2 Tim 3:16) is being used in such a frivolous manner.

If you used verses from the Koran it wouldn't be tolerated and would be seen as demeaning of Islam (we all know Islam has a protected status on Boards)... why the double standards?

Diamond Doll

I agree - not because I'm religious, but just because it's not funny! I love the Prison forum but just don't find the biblical references entertaining or witty at all.

And I can also see tatranska's point about how it could be offensive to Christians.

Deank

New "Admins" trying to be witty, cool and edgy but end up coming across like smug tools.

It is seriously annoying imo.

Sheep Lover

I'm a Christian and I am offended. I would like these references removed and a sincere apology forthwith.

looksee

I felt the quotes were quite apposite, and while they were a little light hearted I would not think they were offensive. The fact that the mods in question were sufficiently familiar with the quotations to be able to use them accurately might suggest that they do not use them with any intention to offend? Haven't people been quoting admonitionary Bible texts at offenders for centuries?

Deank

looksee wrote: »

I felt the quotes were quite apposite, and while they were a little light hearted I would not think they were offensive. The fact that the mods in question were sufficiently familiar with the quotations to be able to use them accurately might suggest that they do not use them with any intention to offend? Haven't people been quoting admonitionary Bible texts at offenders for centuries?

Or that they weren't familiar with text and were just being obnoxious ignoramuses.

Back slapping culture, grand lads.

looksee

Deank wrote: »

Or that they weren't familiar with text and were just being obnoxious ignoramuses.

Matthew 7:1-3

Deank

looksee wrote: »

Matthew 7:1-3

Back slapping in joke. Yawn.....

Well done for being beige.

Orion

Sheep Lover wrote: »

I'm a Christian and I am offended. I would like these references removed and a sincere apology forthwith.

Gervais 12:10:2013 - "Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right"

Deank

Orion wrote: »

Gervais 12:10:2013 - "Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right"

Best not to feed them

uck51js9zml2yt

Orion wrote: »

Gervais 12:10:2013 - "Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right"

Would these same mods be allowed quote the Koran in the same manner? I think not. So why should we accept that the Bible be used in this manner?

Orion

Why do you think they wouldn't be allowed to? Why do you have a problem with bible citations? The bible is not being mocked - it's being used to mock - which has happened more times by religious people over the centuries than you're prepared to accept in your ivory tower. Except in those cases it usually preceded burning at the stake, boiling in oil, or something equally unpleasant.

Sheep Lover

Orion wrote: »

Why do you think they wouldn't be allowed to? Why do you have a problem with bible citations? The bible is not being mocked - it's being used to mock - which has happened more times by religious people over the centuries than you're prepared to accept in your ivory tower. Except in those cases it usually preceded burning at the stake, boiling in oil, or something equally unpleasant.

Someone lacking the intellect and knowledge to understand and appreciate these texts shouldn't use them.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Lover, 2015

CabanSail

"God made me an Atheist and who are you to argue with her"


I think the quotes get some points across but what is annoying is that I have to read a Bible (online) to find the quotes. Personally I find a lot of stuff in the Bible to be offensive but I am not about to complain about that.

uck51js9zml2yt

Orion wrote: »

Why do you think they wouldn't be allowed to? Why do you have a problem with bible citations? The bible is not being mocked - it's being used to mock - which has happened more times by religious people over the centuries than you're prepared to accept in your ivory tower. Except in those cases it usually preceded burning at the stake, boiling in oil, or something equally unpleasant.

Why do you think they should be allowed to ?
Of course Christianity doesn't have the same protected status as Islam. Let them use the Koran (another holy book) and see what happens.

If you think using the Word of God to mock people is OK then that's your opinion. I don't have to accept it being used in that manner.
The verse I quoted from Timothy refers to its uses....mocking people isn't on the list.
But let's wait to hear from the mods in question as no one can answer for them.

Deank

Orion wrote: »

Why do you think they wouldn't be allowed to? Why do you have a problem with bible citations? The bible is not being mocked - it's being used to mock - which has happened more times by religious people over the centuries than you're prepared to accept in your ivory tower. Except in those cases it usually preceded burning at the stake, boiling in oil, or something equally unpleasant.

Justification indeed, well argued.

Deity wept.

Orion

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Someone lacking the intellect and knowledge to understand and appreciate these texts shouldn't use them.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Lover, 2015

So you're saying that the admins lack intellect and knowledge? That's a bit arrogant and presumptuous isn't it?

Sheep Lover

Orion wrote: »

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Someone lacking the intellect and knowledge to understand and appreciate these texts shouldn't use them.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Lover, 2015

So you're saying that the admins lack intellect and knowledge? That's a bit arrogant and presumptuous isn't it?

Perhaps, from my viewing of their "witty" replies in the prison forum I believe my assessment of them to be accurate.

Ken.

Surat al-Maida, 8

Orion

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Why do you think they should be allowed to ?
Of course Christianity doesn't have the same protected status as Islam. Let them use the Koran (another holy book) and see what happens.

If you think using the Word of God to mock people is OK then that's your opinion. I don't have to accept it being used in that manner.
The verse I quoted from Timothy refers to its uses....mocking people isn't on the list.
But let's wait to hear from the mods in question as no one can answer for them.

I think it should be allowed to because I don't accept either has protected status. What do you think would happen if the Qu'ran was used instead? Some muslims would come to feedback and bitch and moan just like you I'd imagine. Is your faith so weak that you can't abide someone using citations from your holy book? Is your god so powerless that she needs you to stand up for her?

As for accepting it - you don't have to read it either.

Orion

Sheep Lover wrote: »

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Lover, 2015

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." Plato

Any classical scholars want to jump in and get offended too?

Sheep Lover

Orion wrote: »

Sheep Lover wrote: »

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Lover, 2015

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." Plato

Any classical scholars want to jump in and get offended too?

Nail on the head there. Well put.

Certain people lacking any substance for a decent reply fall back on mocking sacred text to provide the "funnies"...

Orion

Again - the bible wasn't being mocked. The inmates were. Some people really need to get a life read the Talmud ... "A quotation at the right moment is like bread to the famished"

Orion

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Perhaps, from my viewing of their "witty" replies in the prison forum I believe my assessment of them to be accurate.

Colossians 3:13

Orion

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Certain people lacking any substance for a decent reply fall back on mocking sacred text to provide the "funnies"...

2 Timothy 3:16

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,"

So the bible says it's ok. Problem solved?

5starpool

Worst feedback thread ever.

muffler

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

While I enjoy reading the witty reposts by mods in the Prison Forum.

Can I ask why there is suddenly a usage of Bible verses to score/make points?

Personally, as a Christian, I find it offensive that writings which I and many others consider the inspired Word of God (2 Tim 3:16) is being used in such a frivolous manner.

If you used verses from the Koran it wouldn't be tolerated and would be seen as demeaning of Islam (we all know Islam has a protected status on Boards)... why the double standards?

I dont know whether its an Advent thing or what but a lot of the admins have gone a bit wonky as far as I can see. They seem to have taken to religion in a big way in recent days.
What I find offensive is being asked to take my shoes off before entering the mods forum and then within seconds everyone is telling me to put them back on :eek:

On a more serious note I haven't a clue whats going on but its a bit of lighthearted humour though at the end of the day

fussyonion

The way I see it is that if you're a prisoner in the Prison forum, you've obviously done something to warrant being there.

You, as the prisoner, have no right to tell a Mod/Admin YOU'RE offended by something said Mod/Admin has said in retaliation to you.

If you're a person just reading the Prison forum, well....haven't you anything better to be doing than saying "Think I'll read the Prison forum...ooh look, a retort by a Mod/Admin!! Wait....I'm offended! I'm going to complain!"
This world has gone PC bloody mad and I'm sick of it.

I personally love the witty remarks by the Mods/Admin in the aforementioned forum

BreadnBuddha

Holy Book?

Sacred Scripture?

Word of God?

Can I put Aesops Fables on this list? No more fables are to be used for the purpose of illustrating someones errors in judgement and the consequences of same.

Otherwise I will also be offended by the use of my chosen literary means of educating simple people to try to be halfway decent to one another for a purpose other than that which I explicitly approve.

I demand protected status for my outdated book, Dog-Dang-It!

Permabear

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TherapyBoy

Pints, 8:30?

Alexis Sanchez

Permabear wrote: »

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This was the first thing that popped into my head when I finished reading the OP. If we censor quotes from religious textbooks, we would not have had the most popular wrestler in history:

Shield

I'm somewhat reassured to see that not even boards.ie has escaped today's grievance culture.

Nodin

Deank wrote: »

New "Admins" trying to be witty, cool and edgy but end up coming across like smug tools.

It is seriously annoying imo.

Mr E is new? Trout? The Hill Billy?

I'm unsure if this thread is (a) to get at certain admins or (b) to have a dig at the muslims.

In the event that the OP is sincere, I might ask what book would you suggest they quote to a largely English speaking Western European userbase mostly located in a small relatively conservative ostensibly catholic majority state? What one might first come to mind ? The I-ching? The Vedic scriptures?

CabanSail

I draw the line if there is any mocking of The Book of Armaments

Book of Armaments 2:9-21

And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt
thou take out the Holy Pin.

Then, shalt thou count to three, no more,
no less.

Three shalt be the number thou shalt
count, and the number of the counting
shalt be three.

Four shalt thou not count,
nor either count thou two, excepting that
thou then proceed to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three,
being the third number, be reached, then
lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of
Antioch towards thy foe, who being
naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Pawwed Rig

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

If you used verses from the Koran it wouldn't be tolerated and would be seen as demeaning of Islam (we all know Islam has a protected status on Boards)... why the double standards?

Islam is constantly ridiculed and criticised on this board!!

Come over to CVPL somethime if you don't believe me

Turtyturd

The bible quotes aren't insulting but the general mod actions/response are insulting towards the posters. Yes they are there for a reason but the mods/admins just come across like dicks when they post like that, especially when any response is screened before it's posted.

uck51js9zml2yt

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Islam is constantly ridiculed and criticised on this board??

Come over to CVPL somethime if you don't believe me

Don't have a clue what cvpl is.

As for what book they should quote, maybe try the complete works of Noddy. Using a book that I and many others view as sacred to ridicule people is offensive. But let's wait for the offenders to give their defence...so far we have a lot of mods jumping to their defence and protesting their innocence. Perhaps a slot on the Late Late Show is needed!!

listermint

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Don't have a clue what cvpl is.

As for what book they should quote, maybe try the complete works of Noddy. Using a book that I and many others view as sacred to ridicule people is offensive. But let's wait for the offenders to give their defence...so far we have a lot of mods jumping to their defence and protesting their innocence. Perhaps a slot on the Late Late Show is needed!!

Viewing a book as sacred is the first step in many steps to madness.

Perhaps veiw others around you as human and view humanity as sacred rather than printed words from the same humans.


Sacred.... Good jaysus

uck51js9zml2yt

Orion wrote: »

I think it should be allowed to because I don't accept either has protected status. What do you think would happen if the Qu'ran was used instead? Some muslims would come to feedback and bitch and moan just like you I'd imagine. Is your faith so weak that you can't abide someone using citations from your holy book? Is your god so powerless that she needs you to stand up for her?

As for accepting it - you don't have to read it either.

Do you practice at being offensive?
Doesn't matter that you don't consider Islam protected, boards.ie does.

Akrasia

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI

aaakev

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Do you practice at being offensive?
Doesn't matter that you don't consider Islam protected, boards.ie does.

Do you practice at being offended?
Its the equivalent to a 6 year old getting pissed off because someone slagged off peter pan

gleesonger

I read through a few threads, the mods quoting the bible to one another comes across as very immature. I get an image of them slapping themselves on their backs and sniggering about how smart and witty they are.

In particular The Hill Billy, Mr E, and trouts are very poor; Example: http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057537271/1

MadDog76

I used to find the Prison Forum quite interesting to read and, at times, entertaining but it's turned into a weird episode of Judge Judy ........... it seems that if you just agree with the ban imposed and apologise you're "released" whereas if you set forward a reasoned logical appeal then you're ridiculed by Mods making a poor attempt at being "witty" ....... I find myself embarrassed on the Mods behalf when reading their posts/replies.

What's the point of it all? Either it's a genuine appeals process or it isn't ........

I've often read appeals posts and thought to myself "That poster deserves his/her ban" or "That poster may have a point, the ban was unnecessary and over the top" .......... but what usually follows is 2/3/4 Mods trying to be funny and entertain eachother for some reason ....... it all comes across as a little pathetic in my opinion.

I'll probably end up in "Prison" now for posting this but hopefully "Feedback" is taken more seriously on Boards than appeals are ....... we'll see.

Insect Overlord

MadDog76 wrote: »

I used to find the Prison Forum quite interesting to read and, at times, entertaining but it's turned into a weird episode of Judge Judy ........... it seems that if you just agree with the ban imposed and apologise you're "released" whereas if you set forward a reasoned logical appeal then you're ridiculed by Mods making a poor attempt at being "witty" .......

It's been that way for at least ten years, dude. Check the old threads sometime.

Insect Overlord

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Personally, as a Christian, I find it offensive that writings which I and many others consider the inspired Word of God (2 Tim 3:16) is being used in such a frivolous manner.

If you used verses from the Koran it wouldn't be tolerated and would be seen as demeaning of Islam (we all know Islam has a protected status on Boards)... why the double standards?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

The Hill Billy

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Can I ask why there is suddenly a usage of Bible verses to score/make points?

As an admin who has quoted bible verses I have to say that I don't honestly know why their recent use has come about.

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

Personally, as a Christian, I find it offensive that writings which I and many others consider the inspired Word of God (2 Tim 3:16) is being used in such a frivolous manner.

In fairness, if you read the quotes you will find that the convey rather serious & salient points, albeit in a lighthearted fashion. Bringing a little joy to the boards world & all that. It is a pity that this offends you. Proverbs 19:11 may provide some advice in this regard.

Rhys Icy Putter wrote: »

If you used verses from the Koran it wouldn't be tolerated and would be seen as demeaning of Islam (we all know Islam has a protected status on Boards)... why the double standards?

There's no double-standards that I am aware of. I have never read the Koran, therefore I am not in a position to quote from it.

To those of you who may have had a little smile at the quotes, I salute you for reading them in the manner in which they were intended.

All the best,

tHB

MadDog76

An File wrote: »

It's been that way for at least ten years, dude. Check the old threads sometime.

It's gotten progressively worse recently ......... you used to see the odd genuine appeal taken seriously and dealt with accordingly ......... but now it's just weird in a very unfunny way ........... like reading the diary of somebody slowly going insane ......... starts off normal, then a few funny lines here & there, then it goes a bit "strange" and in the end it's just all very sad unfortunately.

LeinsterDub

The Hill Billy wrote: »

There's no double-standards that I am aware of. I have never read the Koran, therefore I am not in a position to quote from it.

Are you saying you've read and memorised all these quotes. It looks to me like you're just Googleing 'Bible + quote about x'

MadDog76

I will say that The Hill Billy has always been a poster that I respected/liked ........ a Mod that I found excellent ........ and now, as Admin, I hope somebody who can influence the Prison Forum in a positive way and not get dragged down to some weird/strange level of posting.

Big thumbs up for at least replying on this thread and in a positive way.

Mr E

Just to follow up on what THB has said (better than I could), I'll stop with the bible quotes - not because anyone is offended (I don't care - it was never meant to offend), but because it has probably passed the point of being funny.

For those who land in prison for innocent and honest reasons, they will be let out without any fanfare. Absolutely no problem.

The prison forum is there for people to plead their cases - if they have a good explanation for why they landed there, they will be let out. Those 3 were within the last few days.

The sad fact is that over 85% of those who land in prison are reregs, trolls, spammers and multi-accounters who have been caught out (many many times in some cases). The prison forum may have been started in earnest many years ago, but these muppets who come back again and again would try anybody's patience. The same goes for the guys who have been caught red handed breaking site rules but still protest their innocence regardless.

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