Why do so many people...

Asmooh

Good morning everyone,

One thing I noticed a lot is how many people in Ireland are yawning in the train or work or bus, Luas or any other public place and not having their hand before their mouth.

Not just when yawning but also when coughing and sometimes even Sneezing.

I don't know how people grew up here so I can't say anything about that but I've learned that you should always put your hand before your mouth when doing something like this.

It's called manners, while for me it's automatically, even when I'm alone at home or in the train.

I wonder why I almost never see someone doing that, didn't people learn that over here when they grew up?


Just wondering because I again noticed when waiting for the train.

Sunnyisland

There hands are busy, one hand has a coffee cup and the other is texting giving out...

Sure I remember when it was obligatory to give your seat up to any other person older than yea, but that's for another thread , the world is crumbling around us and we can't even see it , them Muslims and Israelites and Ulster prods are the blame. And Fine Gael.

Dricmeister

I saw a pregnant woman standing on the Luas on Wednesday evening and nobody would gove her their seat. Incredible stuff.

Tipsy McSwagger

Dricmeister wrote: »

I saw a pregnant woman standing on the Luas on Wednesday evening and nobody would gove her their seat. Incredible stuff.

Was she yawning?

Dricmeister

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Was she yawning?

No, but people who think nothing of sitting while a pregnant woman stands are likely to think nothing of yawning without covering their mouths...

stampydmonkey

Dricmeister wrote: »

No, but people who think nothing of sitting while a pregnant woman stands are likely to think nothing of yawning without covering their mouths...

Maybe she was just fat

myshirt

Maybe it was the latest in a string of the ole cushion up the jumper scam

DivingDuck

Isn't yawning just a breath with the mouth quite widely open? I don't think there's any more force on the air than there is with a normal breath, so I don't see the same need to cover the mouth as there is with sneezing and coughing, which is a very forceful breath expelling the air (and germs!) much further than is usual.

People who sneeze and cough without covering their mouths are being very inconsiderate, but I've never had a problem with people yawning without doing so.

Also: who else began yawning constantly since opening this thread?

Asmooh

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

ButtersSuki

DivingDuck wrote: »

Isn't yawning just a breath with the mouth quite widely open? I don't think there's any more force on the air than there is with a normal breath, so I don't see the same need to cover the mouth as there is with sneezing and coughing, which is a very forceful breath expelling the air (and germs!) much further than is usual.

People who sneeze and cough without covering their mouths are being very inconsiderate, but I've never had a problem with people yawning without doing so.

Also: who else began yawning constantly since opening this thread?

Malcolm Gladwell talks about the infectious nature of yawning in 'The Tipping Point':

In this excerpt, from the Introduction of The Tipping Point, I talk about what it means to think of the world in epidemic terms.

A world that follows the rules of epidemics is a very different place from the world we think we live in now. Think, for a moment, about the concept of contagiousness. If I say that word to you, you think of colds and the flu or perhaps something very dangerous like H.I.V. or Ebola. We have, in our minds, a very specific, biological, notion of what contagiousness means. But if there can be epidemics of crime or epidemics of fashion, there must be all kinds of things just as contagious as viruses. Have you ever thought about yawning, for instance? Yawning is a surprisingly powerful act. Just by reading the two yawns in the previous two sentences–and the two additional yawns in this sentence–a good number of you will probably yawn within the next few minutes. Even as I’m writing this I’ve yawned twice. If you’re reading this in a public place, and you’ve just yawned, chances are that a good proportion of everyone who saw you yawn is now yawning too, and a good proportion of the people watching the people who watched you yawn are now yawning as well, and on and on, in a ever-widening, yawning circle.

Yawning is incredibly contagious. I made some of you reading this yawn simply by writing the word “yawn”. The people who yawned when they saw you yawn, meanwhile, were infected by the sight of you yawning–which is a second kind of contagion. They might even have yawned if they only heard you yawn, because yawning is also aurally contagious: if you play an audio-tape of a yawn to blind people, they’ll yawn too. And finally, if you yawned as you read this, did the thought cross your mind–however unconsciously and fleetingly–that you might be tired? I suspect that for some of you it did, which means that yawns can also be emotionally contagious. Simply by writing the word, I can plant a feeling in your mind. Can the flu virus do that? Contagiousness, in other words, is an unexpected property of all kinds of things, and we have to remember that if we are to recognize and diagnose epidemic change.

The second of the principles of epidemics–that little changes can somehow have big effects and vice versa–is a also a fairly radical notion. We are, as humans, heavily socialized to make a kind of rough approximation between cause and effect. If we want to communicate a strong emotion, if we want to convince someone that, say, we love them, we realize that we need to speak passionate and forthrightly. If we want to break bad news to someone, we lower our voices and choose our words carefully. We are trained to think that what goes in to any transaction or relationship or system must be directly related, in intensity and dimension, to what comes out.. Consider, for example, the following puzzle. I give you a large piece of paper, 1/100th of a inch thick. (That’s a typical thickness). I want you to fold it over once, and then take that folded paper and fold it over again, and then again, and again, until you have refolded the original paper 50 times. How tall do you think the final stack is going to be? If you ask people that question they’ll fold the sheets in their mind’s eye, and usually answer that the pile would be as thick as a phone book or, if they’re really courageous, they’ll say that it would be as tall as a refrigerator. But the real answer is that the height of the stack would approximate the distance to the sun. And if you folded it over one more time, the stack would be as high as the distance to the sun and back. This is an example of what in mathematics is called a geometric progression. Epidemics are another example of geometric progression: when a virus spreads through a population, it doubles and doubles again, until it has (figuratively) grown from a single sheet of paper all the way to the sun in fifty steps. As human beings we have a hard time with this kind of progression, because the end result–the effect–seems far out of proportion to the cause. To appreciate the power of epidemics, we have to abandon this expectation about proportionality. We need to prepare ourselves for the possibility that sometimes big changes follow from small events, and that sometimes these changes can happen very quickly.

Lando Griffin

Exactly why I bought a big BMW. I can now pick my nose in comfort, but I use my middle finger so when begrudgers are looking in to see who is driving the big BMW I extract slowly so as to cause outrage.

Kev W

Asmooh wrote: »

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

Are they yawning directly into your face? Because that's very rude but maybe there's something about you that makes people want to do that.

stampydmonkey

.............Yawn

kneemos

Asmooh wrote: »

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

Unless it's a made up problem.

Asmooh

Kev W wrote: »

Are they yawning directly into your face? Because that's very rude but maybe there's something about you that makes people want to do that.

Yet you still can't see the problem why it's not normal to have your mouth wide open and not cover it with your hand.

lazybones32

Didn't this notion originate from the same people who considered it mannerly to chew your food an exact number of times before swallowing? One chew too many was unmannerly, rude, impolite.

Do you put your hand over your anus while farting too?

Flint Fredstone

realies wrote: »

There hands are busy, one hand has a coffee cup and the other is texting giving out...

Sure I remember when it was obligatory to give your seat up to any other person older than yea, but that's for another thread , the world is crumbling around us and we can't even see it , them Muslims and Israelites and Ulster prods are the blame. And Fine Gael.

Ok Alanis...

DivingDuck

Asmooh wrote: »

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

I didn't say it's something I do, I said it wasn't something which bothers me.

Contrary to current popular opinion, being bothered by something does absolutely nothing to make it occur less, so I don't see how not being bothered by it contributes to the problem.

bee06

Asmooh wrote: »

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

Stop looking at them? Problem solved

Sam Kade

Asmooh wrote: »

Good morning everyone,

One thing I noticed a lot is how many people in Ireland are yawning in the train or work or bus, Luas or any other public place and not having their hand before their mouth.

Not just when yawning but also when coughing and sometimes even Sneezing.

I don't know how people grew up here so I can't say anything about that but I've learned that you should always put your hand before your mouth when doing something like this.

It's called manners, while for me it's automatically, even when I'm alone at home or in the train.

I wonder why I almost never see someone doing that, didn't people learn that over here when they grew up?


Just wondering because I again noticed when waiting for the train.

Do you cover your arse with your hand when you fart?

namloc1980

Yawn outrage. I'm outraged. Is everyone else outraged? The Government should do something about this outrage.

Sam Kade

Fact, people that yawn are sleeping too much, lazy b@stards.

Kev W

Asmooh wrote: »

Yet you still can't see the problem why it's not normal to have your mouth wide open and not cover it with your hand.

If it's so common then it is normal. That's what normal means. Also it's not actually a problem.

Sam Kade

What's the benefit of covering your mouth while yawning other than trying to choke yourself as you draw in air while yawning?

Asmooh

Sam Kade wrote: »

Do you cover your arse with your hand when you fart?

Do you fart in the bus and train for everyone to see, smell and hear?



anyway: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2tqlpp/why_do_people_cover_their_mouth_when_they_yawn/

munster87

Asmooh wrote: »

Good morning everyone,

One thing I noticed a lot is how many people in Ireland are yawning in the train or work or bus, Luas or any other public place and not having their hand before their mouth.

Not just when yawning but also when coughing and sometimes even Sneezing.

I don't know how people grew up here so I can't say anything about that but I've learned that you should always put your hand before your mouth when doing something like this.

It's called manners, while for me it's automatically, even when I'm alone at home or in the train.

I wonder why I almost never see someone doing that, didn't people learn that over here when they grew up?


Just wondering because I again noticed when waiting for the train.

Hand before their mouth? That's fancy talk for covering their mouth yeah?

Sam Kade

Asmooh wrote: »

Do you fart in the bus and train for everyone to see, smell and hear?



anyway: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2tqlpp/why_do_people_cover_their_mouth_when_they_yawn/

I rarely go on public transport and never fart in public. So tell me how do you control your farts on public transport, do you bag your farts?

Asmooh

Sam Kade wrote: »

I rarely go on public transport and never fart in public. So tell me how do you control your farts on public transport, do you bag your farts?

Actually, I make sure i dont fart in public transport, and even when im walking outside I first check if someone is walking behind me or close by.

KERSPLAT!

I always check if there's anyone downwind when I fart, no one needs to get hit by that!

lazybones32

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, I make sure i dont fart in public transport, and even when im walking outside I first check if someone is walking behind me or close by.

A fart, a sneeze or a yawn, are mostly involuntary bodily functions: how shameful to have them! Should we cover our smiles too? Why is one function good and another rude?

If I am speaking to someone and I feel a yawn coming, I cover my mouth but when in my personal bubble in early morning, an uncovered yawn isn't something I consider offensive or impolite.

Dricmeister

lazybones32 wrote: »

A fart, a sneeze or a yawn, are mostly involuntary bodily functions: how shameful to have them! Should we cover our smiles too? Why is one function good and another rude?

If I am speaking to someone and I feel a yawn coming, I cover my mouth but when in my personal bubble in early morning, an uncovered yawn isn't something I consider offensive or impolite.

Sneezes and yawns are involuntary, but farts are not.

DivingDuck

lazybones32 wrote: »

A fart, a sneeze or a yawn, are mostly involuntary bodily functions: how shameful to have them! Should we cover our smiles too? Why is one function good and another rude?

A smile does not increase the chance of infection transfer (sneeze) or contain smells that might turn your stomach (fart). I understand your point, but you're stretching your argument a little here.

Kev W

Asmooh wrote: »

Do you fart in the bus and train for everyone to see, smell and hear?



anyway: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2tqlpp/why_do_people_cover_their_mouth_when_they_yawn/

1.Do you have visible farts?

2. Should people also cover their mouths when they laugh?

3.Seriously,a Reddit thread?

Mesrine65

Do you fart in the bus and train for everyone to see, smell and hear?

Absolutely OP, my flatulence knows no boundaries

Whyohwhy?

lazybones32 wrote: »

Didn't this notion originate from the same people who considered it mannerly to chew your food an exact number of times before swallowing? One chew too many was unmannerly, rude, impolite.

Do you put your hand over your anus while farting too?

Fair fcuks to ye, ^ that's bloody classic.

Whyohwhy?

Dricmeister wrote: »

Sneezes and yawns are involuntary, but farts are not.

You sir, must have the most supreme control of your gaseous emissions.

lazybones32

Dricmeister wrote: »

Sneezes and yawns are involuntary, but farts are not.

IBS?

DivingDuck wrote: »

A smile does not increase the chance of infection transfer (sneeze) or contain smells that might turn your stomach (fart). I understand your point, but you're stretching your argument a little here.

And a yawn increases infection transfer? If you are this concerned about such issues (smell/bacteria), I doubt you'd use Public Transport in the first place, or handle money, or even leave the house.

Whyohwhy?

So... Public transport. I'd imagine it's usually in the morning or evening you've noticed this? When people are not quite awake yet or are tired perhaps??? shocking stuff altogether. I'll be ringing Joe on Monday on your behalf, don't worry, we'll get this sorted.


Perhaps your boring, inducing people to yawn in your direction? Just a theory.

two wheels good

Asmooh wrote: »

Good morning everyone,

One thing I noticed a lot is how many people in Ireland are yawning in the train or work or bus, Luas or any other public place and not having their hand before their mouth.

Not just when yawning but also when coughing and sometimes even Sneezing.

I don't know how people grew up here so I can't say anything about that but I've learned that you should always put your hand before your mouth when doing something like this.

It's called manners, while for me it's automatically, even when I'm alone at home or in the train.

I wonder why I almost never see someone doing that, didn't people learn that over here when they grew up?

Just wondering because I again noticed when waiting for the train.

You're quite right, OP. So many people with lousy manners. No attempt to cover or avert a cough or sneeze; Or snorting, hacking, spitting in public. I wonder too how they never learned better manners. Should I blame the parents or the teachers?

DivingDuck

lazybones32 wrote: »

And a yawn increases infection transfer? If you are this concerned about such issues (smell/bacteria), I doubt you'd use Public Transport in the first place, or handle money, or even leave the house.

I specifically said sneeze, not yawn, which definitely does spread germs. I'm not bothered if people cover their mouths when yawning, since, as I said in my first post, I don't believe it's very different to breathing.

I'll cover my own mouth purely because yawns have an element of psychological contagion (i.e., you yawn when you see someone else doing it) and I don't like to set people off, but it doesn't bother me when others don't.

Coughing or sneezing, however, is a different story. Flinging your moisture-and-contagion ridden breath into the atmosphere at greater force provably increases the chance of infection in those around you. No such relationship exists with yawning, so I couldn't care less whether people cover their mouths or not.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

OP are you equally outraged when people open their mouths wide in order to have a good laugh?

There's little wrong in the world if an open mouth while yawning is such a concern.

Ally Dick

Isn't it amazing....even READING about yawning, makes you feel like yawning. It's so contagious !

Asmooh

Angelica Shy Rash wrote: »

OP are you equally outraged when people open their mouths wide in order to have a good laugh?

There's little wrong in the world if an open mouth while yawning is such a concern.

if they have a good laugh in public transport while disturbing others then yes I have a problem with it

DeltaWhite

Asmooh wrote: »

if they have a good laugh in public transport while disturbing others then yes I have a problem with it

:rolleyes:

Maybe you just shouldn't use public transport. Being around people doing normal things doesn't seem to mix well with you.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Asmooh wrote: »

if they have a good laugh in public transport while disturbing others then yes I have a problem with it

OK, that sums it up well for me.

Normal behaviour offends you. Someone laughing disturbs you. I find that all disturbing.


Edit. For clarity. Your being disturbed by such natural harmless actions disturbs me.

Asmooh

Asmooh wrote: »

I think it has something to do with manners because I don't want to look into someone's mouth.

But if you don't see the issue then you are part of the problem

Then don't

Whosthis

Dricmeister wrote: »

No, but people who think nothing of sitting while a pregnant woman stands are likely to think nothing of yawning without covering their mouths...

If I didn't get her pregnant, I ain't giving her my seat

Asmooh

Angelica Shy Rash wrote: »

Edit. For clarity. Your being disturbed by such natural harmless actions disturbs me.

Thats okay, but at least I actually care about other persons so I don't

- Make loud sound in public transport
- Fart, of dont cover my mouth in public transport
- Try to talk as quite as possible
- Dont make loud phone calls
- Play music on my phone with on the speaker

all other things that you could disturb others with.