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Harry Potter Prequel: Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    That didn't reveal very much.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    How did they think making this into a movie was a good idea?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why wouldn't it be a good idea? I know nothing about the source material -- is it not very good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Amirani wrote: »
    How did they think making this into a movie was a good idea?

    Probably something to do with the mountains of cash they will make off of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Amirani wrote: »
    How did they think making this into a movie was a good idea?

    They looked at the box-office for the HP movies so far, and said "Even if it's total crap, we cannot lose money!"


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Is it a prequel? Thought it was an unrelated story just set in the same universe?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looking at it, it seems to be an unrelated story set in the same universe. Otherwise they probably would have marketed it as a prequel ...?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Looking at it, it seems to be an unrelated story set in the same universe. Otherwise they probably would have marketed it as a prequel ...?

    I think that's the case, I'm pretty sure the book isn't even a novel, more a text book about magical creatures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Looking at it, it seems to be an unrelated story set in the same universe. Otherwise they probably would have marketed it as a prequel ...?

    If it was a prequel, I would have assumed I'd hear the Harry Potter theme or part thereof in the railer. Thats what makes me think its just in the universe, not a prequel.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I think that's the case, I'm pretty sure the book isn't even a novel, more a text book about magical creatures.

    I read it yonks ago - that's exactly what it is. It's a text book with some small stories about different magical creatures. Hence I can't understand them making a movie about it.

    The other book she released at the same time was more storylike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Harry Potter with no Harry Potter might not be so successful box office wise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭Cows Go µ


    Isn't it about the author of the book Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them, Newt Scamander? He was alive in the 1900s so definitely same world but not a prequel. JK Rowling created such a vast world with so much back story they could have picked any part and easily made a movie. Personally I would have preferred either a founding of Hogwarts or introduction of the Statute of Secrecy story but with JK doing the writing I'm going to watch the hell out of that movie.

    Though I'd also love a James and Lily Potter story at some point I think now is too soon. Maybe in about 15 years or so when the Harry Potter movies aren't so recent. There is just so much that could be done from that era, the James/Lily relationship, how Snape became who he was, how Peter betrayed them, all of them fighting in the Order.

    Though, I'd prefer all of the above in book form. That world is just so much better when it's your own imagination created by JK Rowling, rather than what some director thinks it might look like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    New teaser trailer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    I never went to a Potter movie in the cinema, i most likely will to see this though, looks like a fun cast.

    Good to see Dan Fogler in a buster with what looks like a good chunk of screen time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    The latest trailer does make it look like if Pokémon Go was real...

    Eddie Redmayne's Gotta Catch 'Em All


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I'll probably watch when it comes out albeit a bit skeptical. I just don't think a movie like Fantastic Beasts would be enough to convey much interest in me. I mean they could have made a prequel based on Dumbledore when he was younger and Gellert Grindelwald, or there I say it a prequel about James and Lily Potter, but a movie about Newt Scamander?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭squonk


    What bugged me about this movie from the trailer is that they seem to have lost no time in upping the characters and moving them Stateside. I really liked JK Rowling's insistence that UK people play the different characters and that everything was kept within the UK. You have to hand it to her for having the testicular fortitude to keep the movies very authentic. Now, of course, with likely much less of her so say required, they practically can't wait to introduce american characters. That tells me this is going to be a bad thing. The other movies had a charm that I'm certain this will lack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    squonk wrote:
    What bugged me about this movie from the trailer is that they seem to have lost no time in upping the characters and moving them Stateside. I really liked JK Rowling's insistence that UK people play the different characters and that everything was kept within the UK. You have to hand it to her for having the testicular fortitude to keep the movies very authentic. Now, of course, with likely much less of her so say required, they practically can't wait to introduce american characters. That tells me this is going to be a bad thing. The other movies had a charm that I'm certain this will lack.


    She wrote the script though so I think that charm will still be there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Action packed trailer - really looking forward to this now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Grindelwald got name dropped there. Would love if there was the films were being developed around that and we might see him and Dumbledore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Now a 5 movie series, it seems. Kerching for the cast...

    http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/776059-fantastic-beasts-now-five-movies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,028 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    titan18 wrote: »
    Grindelwald got name dropped there. Would love if there was the films were being developed around that and we might see him and Dumbledore

    Is a young Dumbledore in this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is a young Dumbledore in this?
    has a big part in these 5 films (yep, 5!) that are due out from what I've seen discussed online


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 46 Rhaegal


    Don't like Yates so not looking forward to this movie, think he did a pretty bad job on the HP films.

    Looking at the reviews there seems to be a lot of comedy which he tries to shove in all the time at inappropriate times.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 46 Rhaegal


    Don't like Yates so not looking forward to this movie, think he did a pretty bad job on the HP films.

    Looking at the reviews there seems to be a lot of comedy which he tries to shove in all the time at inappropriate times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Rhaegal wrote: »
    Don't like Yates so not looking forward to this movie, think he did a pretty bad job on the HP films.

    Looking at the reviews there seems to be a lot of comedy which he tries to shove in all the time at inappropriate times.

    Any links to reviews? Can't find any.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 46 Rhaegal


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Any links to reviews? Can't find any.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3183660/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Any links to reviews? Can't find any.

    Haven't seen any youtube critics who sometimes get to advance viewings talking about it yet. Might not be wide released to them yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭spartacus815




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    As far as I've seen, reviewers/critics .. on youtube anyway.. get to see it ... tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,028 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Looks to be a smash at the box office, could break HP records


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    From the reviews I've seen, it seems to be

    [Begining] & [Middle] sections - Regular good ole Movie. Some like, some meh..
    [End] section - Something really good about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kaizersoze81


    Saw this tonight, thought it was awful. Way too dragged out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    Saw this tonight, thought it was awful. Way too dragged out.

    similar, cant believe its rating as 8.1 on IMDB, more like a 5 for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I liked it a lot. More engaging than a Harry Potter film for me


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    I liked it and stands out well against a typical Harry Potter film.
    One criticism would be the lead seems to be channelling Dr. Who. I was wondering at one stage when he would start using the sonic screwdriver instead of a wand.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Thought it was pretty brutal to be honest, with only the briefest of bright spots here and there.

    I was quite impressed with Yates' work on the later Harry Potter films, even if they were inevitably bogged down with being Harry Potter films for sometimes entire films at a time :pac: But he's barely present here, regrettably. A lot of people to blame for this, but it is almost certainly the least interesting take on New York I've ever seen in a film. There's no character, energy or even simply credibility to the faux-Big Apple here. That it is occupied by an endless supply of CG excess only amplifies the hollowness (the climactic action sequence in particular is 2016-blockbuster-101).

    It's Rowling's script that really drags things down though. What an absolute shambles of a narrative. There's at least two major subplots - the New Salemers and the newspaper ones - that go absolutely nowhere (the latter in particular). Unlike Harry Potter which always went out of its way in the early years anyway to have a wholly satisfying narrative alongside the hints at bigger picture stuff, this is clearly a cynically-conceived franchise starter with lots of uninteresting loose ends for future purposes. Sure, the main arc is relatively self-contained, but the sequel setup regularly weighs it down and the pacing is all over the shop. The rules of magic here seem incredibly inconsistent and convenient even by the incredibly inconsistent and convenient Potter standards too.

    Performance-wise, Redmayne makes for an incredibly uninteresting lead - too focused on nervous tics over crafting a character with any depth. Supporting cast fare a little better, although several are criminally wasted (Voight and Morton in particulars). Waterston is great in a thankless role, and Dan Fogler puts in a confident turn as the sidekick / comic foil - no doubt this would be a better film with either of them receiving top billing.

    As said, there's a few bright spots. Some of the creatures, while cursed by being so CG-cartoonish, are fun - like the klepto-platypus, who is a tad overused but amusing. The film is at its best when it isn't interested in generic blockbuster destruction and instead more intimate moments of magical mystery, even if 8 films later that's quite a bit less potent than it once was. And there are ideas in here - even some themes! - despite being mostly half-baked or ill-served.

    Overall, though, Fantastic Beasts... is several notches below fantastic. From time to time it passes as an inoffensive wizard-themed riff on Jumanji. There's a few bits and pieces that will likely play as enjoyable alternative reality takes on Potter-tropes for fans. But this is a film born of too many bad intentions - one that exists primarily because there MUST be more Potter-verse films and they probably need to wait a few more years to get the old gang back together for that kinda ****ty Cursed Child business. It's just another hyperactive blockbuster that at its worst mostly cares about your deposit for another decade of this. There are fleeting moments of charm, wit and even that old magic - but it's by some distance not even the best film with 'fantastic' in the title released this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    I liked it. Maybe dragged a little at the beginning but overall found it an enjoyable watch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I had zero interest in this but I enjoyed it I have to say, saying that it wasn't great either. Redmayne's character was quite annoying with his tics that would come and go so he went from Hugh Grant foppiness to mean machine too easily.

    The score was strange too, it was very Saw-esque in parts, to the extent if that was a single on the radio you'd be expecting a lawsuit.

    Sweet ending though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I had zero interest in this but I enjoyed it I have to say, saying that it wasn't great either. Redmayne's character was quite annoying with his tics that would come and go so he went from Hugh Grant foppiness to mean machine too easily.

    The score was strange too, it was very Saw-esque in parts, to the extent if that was a single on the radio you'd be expecting a lawsuit.

    Sweet ending though


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I really enjoyed actually: it was funny, not too long and I didn't mind the Harry Potter elements of the story being missing...nice few nods to the serious fans as well.

    Redmayne's thing of looking at people from under his fringe got a bit annoying though.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Ya I thought this was decent - Way funnier than I thought it would be.

    Was also struck by the Saw-like music towards the end - Was bizarre


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    Saw this today and definitely deserves the high ratings I've been seeing.

    Plenty of nods to the Harry Potter story but even as a standalone movie it's incredibly well done and well acted.

    Probably the best movie of the year for me.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 46 Rhaegal


    Not sure what some of you have been watching but the plot was all over the place. The reveal at the end had nothing to do with the actual story itself and seemed quite out of place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    Rhaegal wrote: »
    Not sure what some of you have been watching but the plot was all over the place. The reveal at the end had nothing to do with the actual story itself and seemed quite out of place.

    It had everything to do with the actual story. It all revolved around the wizarding world not interacting with the non magic folk. The beasts threatening being found out, the characters dealing with not crossing the line through friendship and love, the antagonists motives, the ending all fell in line with the main plot. So I'm not sure why it seemed all over the place to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I quite enjoyed it and it seemed more fun than most harry potter movies.I think i liked the 1920's american setting more than england.

    was perhaps a bit long but im looking forward to future installments


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It was a lot of fun. Some genuinely laugh out loud moments, some good tension, and a good deal darker than the previous Harry Potter movies - you can tell they're aiming for a slightly older audience.

    Something funny - with the final reveal of the villain
    When we see Johnny Depp
    , a little child in the cinema screen burst out laughing. This made others laugh as well. Because it was a little ridiculous.

    I like the actor, will refrain from spoilers, but just not sure how good a villain he will be. Worry it might be more
    Mordecai
    than Voldemort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    That was a good fun movie although
    I hate johnald depps
    But intrested to see where it goes.


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