Webcam streaming

flowerific

I want to set up web cam streaming to monitor my cows. I only have phone line dial up internet connection and it is pretty poor most of the time.
I live in another location to my farm and I have perfect broadband where I live.
I'm awaiting a quote from a webcab at the moment.
If I don't have decent broadband on my farm is the webcam streaming a waste of time and money.
Any advise welcome

patsy_mccabe

Some reading in it, but all you need to know;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056741425

_Brian

flowerific wrote: »

I want to set up web cam streaming to monitor my cows. I only have phone line dial up internet connection and it is pretty poor most of the time.
I live in another location to my farm and I have perfect broadband where I live.
I'm awaiting a quote from a webcab at the moment.
If I don't have decent broadband on my farm is the webcam streaming a waste of time and money.
Any advise welcome

Dial up won't cut it..
I you'll need reasonable broadband upload speed..

Ask the company supplying the cameras what the minimum upload speed required to stream is... We have low-end broadband round here and I know my neighbor can't stream CCTV system as its too slow..

patsy_mccabe

You can slow down the ffs (frames per second) on the camera. Maybe that would help.

The Cuban

Can you see the shed from your house (doesn't matter how far away)

WheatenBriar

All you need is a 3G security camera
It will work with any network that has 3G or 4G in the yard
Vodafone usually covers most area's
A monthly top up on a sim from a pay as you go monthly plan with a gig or two of data is fine

No need to install a landline or broadband there

flowerific

Thanks guys for the replies. Its not dial up I have but I dont have WiFi. I got a quote back for the system to be set up for multi cameras and my upload speed is 3mb. 1800eur plus for the system and 200eur for camera.
Ill be looking to go with the 3g/4g sim card camera remote access option. I'll just have to have one camera instead of 4 though.

flowerific

What do you think of this camera. It doesn't look like a 3g SIM camera, but does it mean I could install it, download the recommended app on my smart phone and be able to live view?. I'm not very tech minded!http://www.amazon.com/Zmodo-PKD-DK4216-500GB-Internet-Accessible-4-Channel/dp/B005FM8UL4#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1449586596172

WheatenBriar

I'd be interested to know how you get on,so post back with a review if you get a chance

Try to buy from amazon UK or an EU site as those outside will hit you for extra vat on delivery on top of the price already paid

Merrion

With that Amazon one (and most similar) the cameras have to be connected to the box - they supply cable up to 100m long - so I'd imagine in your case the box is going to need to be in the shed...I don't think it's going to be up to that.

Questions:
1) What distance from the shed/farm to the house?
2) Do you really need "live video" or would snapshots (say every 15 seconds) be sufficient?
3) How's the 3G coverage at the sheds?
4) Do you want night vision (probably do if your watching for calving?)

farmerjj

flowerific wrote: »

I want to set up web cam streaming to monitor my cows. I only have phone line dial up internet connection and it is pretty poor most of the time.
I live in another location to my farm and I have perfect broadband where I live.
I'm awaiting a quote from a webcab at the moment.
If I don't have decent broadband on my farm is the webcam streaming a waste of time and money.
Any advise welcome

Tried to do this myself but never was able to get the camera box(that was meant to connect the cameras to my ip address so I could view it online) my advice is get a professional if your not a techie, I,m still regretting not paying a few quid more.

Grueller

I recently threw up a plug and play outdoor ip camera. I sent the broadband signal from the house to the shed via 2 nanostations and to the parents house via a third nanostation. I put ip cam viewer lite on my phone, my tablet and a on a cheap tablet for the auld lad to view. The boss cannot even text and he has learned to work this. I can view the camera remotely from anywhere in the world on my phone.

The camera is a ptz wanscam and cost €94 off ebay from light in the box. I had to get my internet service provider to give me a static ip and the tech guy from work synced the ip address of my camera and router to be able to port forward. All took him about ten minutes.

The nanostations, two routers, a roll of armoured cat 5 cable, mounting brackets and lengths of galvanised piping to raise the nanostations into sightline of each other and poe switch all cost me €350 iirc.

If the op set up the camera connected to a mobile broadband dongle with a static ip address and port forwarding the same system could work afaik. It is working a dream for me so far. I was able to call a neighbour last week to look in on a cow while myself and the father were away at a funeral 70 miles from home.

tellmeabit

I was looking for something similar myself as couldn't get wifi to shed, (not sure what these nanostations are, going to google) but what I am now looking at it a smart phone or pc with camera and a wifi dongle, have the pc/laptop/smartphone, just waiting on the dongle, priced at €12 a month, and will setup Skype with auto answer on it so I can ring in when ever, doesn't have to been online eating up allowance all day..
will report back,

orm0nd

tellmeabit wrote: »

I was looking for something similar myself as couldn't get wifi to shed, (not sure what these nanostations are, going to google) but what I am now looking at it a smart phone or pc with camera and a wifi dongle, have the pc/laptop/smartphone, just waiting on the dongle, priced at €12 a month, and will setup Skype with auto answer on it so I can ring in when ever, doesn't have to been online eating up allowance all day..
will report back,

these are examples of nanostations , many others available as well

lots of info on U tube re setting up

J.O. Farmer

Grueller wrote: »

I recently threw up a plug and play outdoor ip camera. I sent the broadband signal from the house to the shed via 2 nanostations and to the parents house via a third nanostation. I put ip cam viewer lite on my phone, my tablet and a on a cheap tablet for the auld lad to view. The boss cannot even text and he has learned to work this. I can view the camera remotely from anywhere in the world on my phone.

The camera is a ptz wanscam and cost €94 off ebay from light in the box. I had to get my internet service provider to give me a static ip and the tech guy from work synced the ip address of my camera and router to be able to port forward. All took him about ten minutes.

The nanostations, two routers, a roll of armoured cat 5 cable, mounting brackets and lengths of galvanised piping to raise the nanostations into sightline of each other and poe switch all cost me €350 iirc.

If the op set up the camera connected to a mobile broadband dongle with a static ip address and port forwarding the same system could work afaik. It is working a dream for me so far. I was able to call a neighbour last week to look in on a cow while myself and the father were away at a funeral 70 miles from home.

You make it all sound so simple. surely you'd need to know a bit about the systems to set something like that up.

What about if you were 70 miles away at the funeral and couldn't get the neighbour or he was 70 miles away in a different direction. you'd almost be worse off knowing the cow was calving and if there was a problem you couldn't intervene.

orm0nd

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

You make it all sound so simple. surely you'd need to know a bit about the systems to set something like that up.

What about if you were 70 miles away at the funeral and couldn't get the neighbour or he was 70 miles away in a different direction. you'd almost be worse off knowing the cow was calving and if there was a problem you couldn't intervene.

most people have more than 1 neighbour

we upgraded an old analogue system last year for ip monitoring and am sorry we didnt do it years ago

all the info for setting up is online

J.O. Farmer

orm0nd wrote: »

most people have more than 1 neighbour

we upgraded an old analogue system last year for ip monitoring and am sorry we didnt do it years ago

all the info for setting up is online

Yes but how many can calve a cow.

st1979

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Yes but how many can calve a cow.

Ring the bloody vet then.

And if he is at the funeral as well. You can always ring the knacker man and the problem will be gone before your home

J.O. Farmer

st1979 wrote: »

Ring the bloody vet then.

And if he is at the funeral as well. You can always ring the knacker man and the problem will be gone before your home

Oops did I wind somebody up. My point was more that if you weren't able to get there would you be better off not knowing what was happening rather than looking at it on camera. like the day you were going to the funeral and expecting the cow might calve were you better off getting the neighbour to look in on her.

Grueller

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Oops did I wind somebody up. My point was more that if you weren't able to get there would you be better off not knowing what was happening rather than looking at it on camera. like the day you were going to the funeral and expecting the cow might calve were you better off getting the neighbour to look in on her.

Neighbour is in a serious dairy operation. Calves 180 cows a year. I'd trust him to calve a cow more than I trust myself.

J.O. Farmer

Grueller wrote: »

Neighbour is in a serious dairy operation. Calves 180 cows a year. I'd trust him to calve a cow more than I trust myself.

Your lucky not everyone has such an experienced neighbour

Grueller

Three yards here that are within 50 metres of each other. Ourselves, a 180 cow dairy man and a 90 cow dairy man. Within a mile we would have anther 4 farmers adding up to 750 dairy cows between them. All good neighbours. Spot the poor relation among them all with his few sucklers!!!!!!

dh1985

Grueller wrote: »

I recently threw up a plug and play outdoor ip camera. I sent the broadband signal from the house to the shed via 2 nanostations and to the parents house via a third nanostation. I put ip cam viewer lite on my phone, my tablet and a on a cheap tablet for the auld lad to view. The boss cannot even text and he has learned to work this. I can view the camera remotely from anywhere in the world on my phone.

The camera is a ptz wanscam and cost €94 off ebay from light in the box. I had to get my internet service provider to give me a static ip and the tech guy from work synced the ip address of my camera and router to be able to port forward. All took him about ten minutes.

The nanostations, two routers, a roll of armoured cat 5 cable, mounting brackets and lengths of galvanised piping to raise the nanostations into sightline of each other and poe switch all cost me €350 iirc.

If the op set up the camera connected to a mobile broadband dongle with a static ip address and port forwarding the same system could work afaik. It is working a dream for me so far. I was able to call a neighbour last week to look in on a cow while myself and the father were away at a funeral 70 miles from home.

Greller would it be possible to post a schematic of what you have done above. I am interested is doing exactly the same but unsure of the order each item should be positioned

Grueller

dh1985 wrote: »

Greller would it be possible to post a schematic of what you have done above. I am interested is doing exactly the same but unsure of the order each item should be positioned

Where are you located dh1985?

arctictree

Grueller wrote: »

If the op set up the camera connected to a mobile broadband dongle with a static ip address and port forwarding the same system could work afaik. It is working a dream for me so far.

I tried to get a static IP off a few mobile companies but was unsuccessful. Apparently it's just not done.

I did build a streaming solution for a neighbour though. But you do need a PC beside the camera. I used a raspberry pi. Camera + pi + dongle was about €150 to setup and €25 a month for the mobile link.

fastrac94

Reading in here and very interested,earlier on in thread it was mentioned about being able to recieve an email whenever something attracts the cameras attention.i would like to b able to mount a camera on my garage at parents house to keep an eye on comming and goings,i could ring dad or neighbour either side of us if i think needs be..whats my best way of doing this?

Merrion

If the garage is next to the house (and therefore the house wifi) then this camera should do you.

If not and you need a 3G (mobile phone network) then its a bit more tricky..

cornholiooo

As far as i know three / 3 are the only service provider in ireland you can use to remotely monitor cameras using a 3g connection as they facilitate port forwarding.
You need a decent upload speed on site, which its best to test around 7pm when the network is generally at its most congested.
You can use a suitable dvr (without hard-drive obviously) in conjunction with a three dongle and broadband sim. A booster on site would be a good addition as well.
Plus a camera of your choice obviously, a fairly robust one if its gonna be in a shed with cattle, condensation, dust, damp etc.