Stabbing at London tube station being treated as a 'terrorist incident'

ceadaoin.

3 people were injured at Leytonstone tube station by man who shouted 'this is for Syria' before attacking and seriously injuring one person (serious neck injury apparently) and 2 others with minor injuries. Presumably, the attacker did it in retaliation for the UK starting air strikes on Syria. Doesn't seem to be ISIS related but they seem to be quick to declare it a terrorist incident and not just some crazy person

A stabbing at a Tube station in east London is being treated as a "terrorist incident", the Met Police has said.
Police were called to reports of people being attacked at Leytonstone station just after 19:00 GMT.
A man was arrested after being Tasered by police. One man suffered serious knife injuries while two others received minor injuries.
Detectives from the Metropolitan Police's Counter-Terrorism Command are now investigating the incident.
The Met said the suspect was reportedly threatening other people with a knife.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35018789

Shannon757

Could just be a drunk or a druggie

Samaris

ceadaoin. wrote: »

3 people were injured at Leytonstone tube station by man who shouted 'this is for Syria' before attacking and seriously injuring one person (serious neck injury apparently) and 2 others with minor injuries. Presumably, the attacker did it in retaliation for the UK starting air strikes on Syria. Doesn't seem to be ISIS related but they seem to be quick to declare it a terrorist incident and not just some crazy person]

Well, his declared reasoning is to cause terror amongst ordinary people for a political motivation. He doesn't have to carry an ISIS card for it to be a terrorist attack, it just wasn't an "officially planned" one.

i.e. One can be a terrorist -and- a lone crazed nut.

ceadaoin.

Shannon757 wrote: »

Could just be a drunk or a druggie

It seems to have been an attempted beheading, not the sort of violence you'd usually associate with drunks or druggies. Whatever his motivation he is obviously highly disturbed to do such a thing.

mikeym

I saw a video of the incident before the BBC website reported the Stabbings.

Not very pleasant.

PARlance

mikeym wrote: »

I saw a video of the incident before the BBC website reported the Stabbings.

Not very pleasant.

I knew you weren't going to post a link before you started typing.

nokia69

https://twitter.com/BigTobzsf/status/673239655291187200

a video of part the incident, a lot of blood at the start but no real violence, if you can't look at blood don't click

https://twitter.com/tycoonewsEARTH/status/673254152059924480

the suspect being arrested, no blood its ok to watch

can we say who might have been behind this or will the truth result in a ban ?

strelok

nokia69 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BigTobzsf/status/673239655291187200

a video of the incident, a lot of blood at the start buy no real violence, if you can't look at blood don't click

https://twitter.com/tycoonewsEARTH/status/673254152059924480

the suspect being arrested, no blood its ok to watch

can we say who might have been behind this or will the truth result in a ban ?

....


****, it was travellers?

Arne_Saknussem

Reported the attacker shouted out 'This is for Syria', according to ITV News.

Richard Hillman

Left wingers haven't been this excited since Ryan Giggs was introduced to his sister in law.

kettlehead

Just another "isolated incident" number 13,672. I'm getting really tired of this crap.

Samaris

nokia69 wrote: »

can we say who might have been behind this or will the truth result in a ban ?

Dammit, we've been through this before, it -wasn't- Elvis.

Smidge

Whether he is part of IS or not(he clearly said something to that effect as a bystander shouts about him "Not being a Muslim, bruv(which is spot on), he is clearly a deranged and dangerous headcase who has caused a hell of a lot of physical injuries there tonight to innocent people.
Hope whoever was injured pulls through.

Alexis Sanchez

nokia69 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tycoonewsEARTH/status/673254152059924480

Guy in the Video: "You ain't no Muslim, bruv."

Ugh. The "no true Scotsman" fallacy. If he's a fundamentalist, then he's more Muslim than any non-violent Muslim.

nokia69

Smidge wrote: »

Whether he is part of IS or not(he clearly said something to that effect as a bystander shouts about him "Not being a Muslim, bruv(which is spot on)

Amazing

what will it take for people like you to wake up

I really do wonder

Alexis Sanchez

Smidge wrote: »

Whether he is part of IS or not(he clearly said something to that effect as a bystander shouts about him "Not being a Muslim, bruv(which is spot on)

No, he's completely wrong. It's a fallacious argument and you clearly know nothing about Islam and its history, though, I do wonder, what do you think a true Muslims is?

Smidge

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

No, he's completely wrong. It's a fallacious argument and you clearly know nothing about Islam and its history, though, I do wonder, what do you think a true Muslims is?

Cool your jets
You may want to re-read my post

youreadthat

To be fair this is London, I wouldn't be surprised if some hipster knifed up a tube station shouting justice for cinnamon lattes.

Smidge

nokia69 wrote: »

Amazing

what will it take for people like you to wake up

I really do wonder

People like me?

Listen, very little is know atm.
Very small clip linked. I acknowledged he may have shouted something about IS(which we didnt hear but was heckled by someone off camera shouting "You are not a Muslim bruv".
So he may have shouted something terrorist related.

He could ALSO be another one of London's fukcing fruitcakes who decided to something horrendous and give it a banner.

What is clear is that he butchered a person/people.
If he believes he did it in the name of IS, makes no difference to me.
He still butchered an innocent person just going about their business.

Whatever way he wanted to dress it up.

The Randy Riverbeast

nokia69 wrote: »

can we say who might have been behind this or will the truth result in a ban ?

My bet is on welsh separatists.

Specialun

The likes of sky are really looking to justify the reason to bomb syria imo...any sniff of isis and there all over it

nokia69

Smidge wrote: »

People like me?

Listen, very little is know atm.
Very small clip linked. I acknowledged he may have shouted something about IS(which we didnt hear but was heckled by someone off camera shouting "You are not a Muslim bruv".
So he may have shouted something terrorist related.

He could ALSO be another one of London's fukcing fruitcakes who decided to something horrendous and give it a banner.

What is clear is that he butchered a person/people.
If he believes he did it in the name of IS, makes no difference to me.
He still butchered an innocent person just going about their business.

Whatever way he wanted to dress it up.

did you know that islam is the religion of peace, I think its the only BS left out of your post

nxbyveromdwjpg

nokia69 wrote: »

can we say who might have been behind this or will the truth result in a ban ?

Was it MCD?

JackieBauer

The threat is very, very real and this incident is just the tip of the iceberg

Herb Powell

Lunatic.

Tensions are high atm, all I can say is thank **** he didn't do more serious damage than he appears to have done.

It will be interesting to see if he claims any loyalty to ISIS, though doesn't quite seem to fit their style.

Mario95

Herb Powell wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if he claims any loyalty to ISIS, though doesn't quite seem to fit their style.

So he was attacking random people with intentions to kill and shouting "this is for Syria". Who if not an ISIS supporter would do that?

nokia69

Who would do such a thing

coming soon to a town near you

warning, lot of blood in the video

nokia69

nokia69 wrote: »

Who would do such a thing

coming soon to a town near you

warning, lot of blood in the video

What kind of an absolute fcuking moron do you need to be, to take out a camera and record someone in that position.

It's a pity the chap recording that wasn't the victim. Idiot.

KungPao

Mario95 wrote: »

So he was attacking random people with intentions to kill and shouting "this is for Syria". Who if not an ISIS supporter would do that?

A ****ing mental case looking for attention?

Herb Powell

Mario95 wrote: »

So he was attacking random people with intentions to kill and shouting "this is for Syria". Who if not an ISIS supporter would do that?

"This is for Syria" is not something I'd expect an ISIS operative to be shouting. It's a bit vague for ISIS, and not really extreme enough. I mean, their goal is a caliphate, I don't think they'd openly recognise nations as such.

Might be reading into it too much, but the tone seems off. Just my opinion. A cunnt is a cunnt all the same.

InitiumNovum

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

My bet is on welsh separatists.

It’s doubtful. Cornish separatists have been far more vocal recently.

uck51js9zml2yt

osarusan wrote: »

A kind of cloth.

That's a muslin !!

Joe prim

Don't you have to shout 'alley at the bar" or somesuch, or you're out?

KungPao

Alisa Putrid Ballpoint wrote: »

That's a muslin !!

Bloody muslins!

uck51js9zml2yt

KungPao wrote: »

Bloody muslins!

More likely to be over ones shoulder when winding a baby.
Great for catching baby puke;)

InitiumNovum

Alisa Putrid Ballpoint wrote: »

That’s a muslin !!

I know this is random and off topic, but would “Muzzy Mór” still be allowed on kids TV on TG4 because the name isn’t politically correct.

uck51js9zml2yt

Joe prim wrote: »

Don't you have to shout 'alley at the bar" or somesuch, or you're out?

Are you finchys cousin?

Mario95

Herb Powell wrote: »

"This is for Syria" is not something I'd expect an ISIS operative to be shouting. It's a bit vague for ISIS, and not really extreme enough. I mean, their goal is a caliphate, I don't think they'd openly recognise nations as such.

I am not sure what you mean or what you are reading. ISIS stands Islamic state of Iraq and Syria. ISIS terrorists in Paris were also shouting "This is for Syria" in the theatre.

Smidge

KungPao wrote: »

A ****ing mental case looking for attention?

I think some of the posters here are so eager for details of another Paris tragedy,, that they are missing the points of a lot of posts(mine included)

I never said he didn't chant an IS chant(he said something to that effect, we dont know what though).
I also never said he wasn't part of IS.

BUT

I did say wait until he has links shown that he was part of an organised terror group before linking it in the same bracket as a "terrorist attack".

Until then he is a criminal who violently assaulted innocent people.
Is this different to being a terrorist? NO. He assaulted innocent people.
Does what he did make him a terrorist? NO. They also assault innocent people but are organised.

He could be a raging loony psycho who just wanted to hurt someone and shouting an IS chant gave him the freedom to do it.

Do certain posters not get the difference between the two?

raah!

I think it's possible this is some fellow, who is like many of the posters here certain that he has the absolute moral truth on what is wrong with syria. A white person mindlessly parroting catchphrases from the status quo worked up into such a frenzy that he goes and does things directly contradictory to the catchphrases he's bleating out. Trying to show killing people is bad by killing people.

He's not a member or supporter of isis but a different cult.

kettlehead

Herb Powell wrote: »

"This is for Syria" is not something I'd expect an ISIS operative to be shouting. It's a bit vague for ISIS, and not really extreme enough. I mean, their goal is a caliphate, I don't think they'd openly recognise nations as such.

Might be reading into it too much, but the tone seems off. Just my opinion. A cunnt is a cunnt all the same.

The Paris attackers said and shouted similar.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-11-13/paris-shooter-shouted-this-is-for-syria/

Beefy78

He's just a madman with a knife. He spent 15 minutes until Police turned up and doesn't appear to have gone on much of a rampage. Things could have turned out much, much worse.

DarkyHughes

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Left wingers haven't been this excited since Ryan Giggs was introduced to his sister in law.

Why would Left wingers be excited?

It could be used for them to say I told you so (that terror attacks would happen in the West if we got involved in the Middle East) but I don't think anyone is that distasteful.

I agree with the Beast of Bolsover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa-xZpif-tA

Dohnjoe

Beefy78 wrote: »

He's just a madman with a knife.

It's being treated as a terrorist incident by the Met. When two men killed Lee Rigby in broad daylight in London, that was also terrorism (they were talking to bystanders after trying to hack the victims head off)

The attacks in Paris weren't "just" madmen with guns, there was a terrorist motivation behind it

Just think.. If it had been America, there would have been a half dozen cops and a hundred bullets.

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

Just think.. If it had been America, there would have been a half dozen cops and a hundred bullets.

Probably yeah, the difference is, cops in the US have to deal with 350+ mass shootings a year

In the UK, there are almost zero

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

Just think.. If it had been America, there would have been a half dozen cops and a hundred bullets.

....and no knife or stabbing.

MakeEmLaugh

Maajid Nawaz, political commentator and founder of the anti-extremist group Quilliam, had the best response to this attack so far.

Seeing as he is from a Pakistani Muslim background, and actually joined the radical Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir as a teenager before renouncing violence, I'll take his input on issues like this with a bit more gravity that most others'.

You're not Syrian yet you attack your fellow countrymen "for Syria"? You can only have been ideologically driven:

1) we are not bombing Syrian civilians, we are bombing ISIS.

2) the ones who've been deliberately killing Syrian civilians for years are Assad & ISIS, not us.

3) why didn't you attack anyone while Asad & ISIS were slaughtering & enslaving thousands of Syrian civilians? Doesn't count because the perpetrators were Muslims?

4) what's any of this got to do with... killing more civilians ... in Leytonstone station?

JPNelsforearm

https://twitter.com/hashtag/YouAintNoMuslimBruv?src=tren

Has a muslim ever actually committed a crime?

Mario95

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hashtag/YouAintNoMuslimBruv?src=tren

Has a muslim ever actually committed a crime?

If a muslim commits a crime then he is not a muslim, and therefore no muslim ever committed any crime.

Beefy78

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's being treated as a terrorist incident by the Met. When two men killed Lee Rigby in broad daylight in London, that was also terrorism (they were talking to bystanders after trying to hack the victims head off)

The attacks in Paris weren't "just" madmen with guns, there was a terrorist motivation behind it

I didn't say that there wasn't. But it clearly wasn't organised terrorism.