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Top of the range gaming and streaming pc

  • 01-12-2015 9:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47


    hi guys,
    so ive been the last two months wrecking my head on websites building my ideal gaming pc using the websites options of customising there current pcs. before everyone goes nuts telling me to build myself, i cant but i have got offers off a few kind people on here to build it for me. anyway i was wondering if i could get some experts opinions from experienced gaming rig builders here, so my question is if i handed u 4-5k and told u to build me the best possible gaming/streaming pc, can you post up your choices of components??? im very interested to see ye re choices, compared to what i have picked myself. (the only decent website for online build i got was scan, post up any others anyone likes too).
    thanks
    sean.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Even if you went dual 395x2 and a tanky case you'd still be under 3k. 4-5k for gaming is ludicrous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    lol i didnt ask for advice on the money im spending, but thanks for the very helpful reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭irish coldplayer


    Well if money is no object and you dont want to build yourself you could try one of the overclockers premium systems
    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/prestige-pc/infin8
    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/prestige-pc/8pack

    Theres one there for 12k sterling!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    ya i saw them, things a gigantic, there s a cool dream pcs on x3 systems in scan site but there huge money too, i have ta draw line at 5k tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    I think whenever anybody says "That's ludicrous" or whatever, what they're trying to pin-point is "How much money do you want to waste?", because everything outside of the bang-for-buck bracket of E900-E1200 sees diminishing returns. Not that those diminishing returns can't be worthwhile, but we also don't know what your preferences are and how comfortable you'd be with a build either half or one third the price matching your E4000-E5000 build in just a few years.

    Going just a level or two above the bang-for-buck category gives you more wiggle-room for spending money in the future and staying up-to-date and so on, and you could spend the extra money on peripherals that won't devalue so much - screens & inner components devalue or get bested quickly. Good cases, keyboards, great amps & speakers less so. Is sound important to you? Do you have a large room?

    If I had a E5000 budget I could buy a great PC, KB&M & controllers of my choosing (do you like emulation?), 1440p 21:9 monitor, 1080p projector, great surround setup - but if all or some of those things don't matter to you we're shooting in the dark. Is the budget strictly for the PC only?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    lol i didnt ask for advice on the money im spending, but thanks for the very helpful reply.

    me finks because you were too busy reading for the "lolz", your brain farted so you misunderstood what Ed was saying.

    There are only so many fps /graphics settings before you're gonna hit a ceiling. For every 1k after this ceiling you get next to nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    thanks grindle, but like im new on here only ever posted twice on boards before. didnt think id need to be trying to figure out what people really mean when they reply to a question, so much easier if its just straight up answered like u did just now,

    ya the moneys for the whole lot, keyboard, mouse, monitor etc... i shud of said that sorry, im sorted as far as tv and surround sound and headset(which ill use most for gaming), my current pc i bought 8/9 years ago and only had to add a gpu and ram 3/5 yrs ago to keep it playing all the top games, i wud like that this build wud be like that so wud only need minimum spent to upgrade 4/5 years time.

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭I Armour I


    Get yourself a decent, large case (€100+)
    Mobo, capable of DDr 4 and the latest chipsets 100-150
    Ram: OTT 16-32 gb 70-130ish
    CPU: Go for the latest i7 cause sure why not 300-500(?)
    GPU: Go for 1 or 2 980's, 980 TI's or Titans (I have 0 AMD references) 600-1400 (depending on make and how many)
    SDD: 2 Samsung EVO 500 gb: 300ish
    HDD: Couple of 2-4 tB HDDs: 150(?)
    PSU: Corsair Gold/Plat 80/90 + efficency 850-900 Watt: 150-220(?)
    Extra fans: 80 (depending on case)
    Cooling: 80-150 (same as above)

    Because 4k max res set up on a single monitor is bit... ridiculous, we will say 1-3 1440p 144hz Gsync monitors: 500-1500 @23-27 inches each
    Mechanical Keyboard of the colorful and strange (blue/brown/red key) variety: 80-150
    Mouse: Match it to KB/ what ever game you play... find out their sizes as that's important.. (20-100

    Desk: If you don't have one, but a nice spacious one: 50-250
    Chair: arm rests, comfortable height and cool factor: 100-200
    Spare cables for dem monitors: 10-30

    Headset(?): Sure 10-300 from microsft cheapy talk ones to Like Astros/Sennheisers...

    Sound card: nah..

    Capture card?: Nah...

    I can't think of much else to get in a "I have more money than I know what to do with scenario for PC games"

    The above is absolutely OTT and unless you won the lottery and plan on gaming for many many moons ahead with little else to spend the time on, it's probably not worth the price for how often you would use it.

    I wouldn't even if I could afford it because something better will be out for the same price in 2-5 years and just because it's very over the top.

    However, websites like Amazon and scan are great for the above. Brands like MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Corsair etc would be very good.


    Without a huge library for the most the demanding games and previous experience gaming at 720p/30fps, 1080p/60fps/90fps/144fps or 1440p/60fps I wouldn't take the plunge as it's probably not all that necessary and as hobby can be enjoyed humbly without everything being super OTT... At the end of the day, they're just numbers and price tags and change the gameplay as drastically as an individual game would... like playing System shock and then jumping on to fall out 4... Thats where it all matters, games...


    Also in streaming, the higher the quality the less viewers you get as their internet and the streaming band width can't sustain it.. I have ran in to these road blocks myself and never stream/upload higher than 1080p or 60 fps... so I play at that because it's still not as slow/choppy as Old school NES or PONG!

    Happy building :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I'd advise not spending quite so much in one go, mainly because you've come at the tail end of a GPU cycle.

    We've been with the 900 series on the 28nm node for far too long now, and it's only recently we've started to see smaller SoCs moving to 14/16nm. This is what's coming around Q2 next year. By all accounts Pascal is going to be an absolute monster.

    Rough projections see the 1080 (or whatever it's called) being anywhere up to 30% more powerful than the 980Ti, using GDDR5X. The GP100/102 chips will ship with HBM2. Predictions for these things really are a crapshoot at the moment, but they won't be slow.

    So really, there's not much point dropping two grand on a pair of Titans at the moment, not with such a big jump in tech coming (relatively) soon. You of course could, but frankly I'm pretty bored with the 900 series as a whole at this point, and if it were me, I wouldn't invest, unless you could find something second-hand on the cheap to keep you going for a few months.


    If you absolutely must buy something sooner, something like this would be what I'd look at. I can't give you much specifics though as you haven't actually said anything about what you'll be doing with it, or what you want from it.

    X99 motherboard + 5820K
    16-32GB of RAM
    GTX 980 Ti SLI
    Samsung 950 Pro SSD (Primary)
    Crucial BX100 SSD (Secondary)
    RMi850 PSU

    Case can be whatever you like. As far as cooling, I'd of course go custom water, but something tells me you won't be up for that, so probably whatever EK's new AIO is instead. That looks reasonably nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭L


    There's a small bit more info on Sean's requirements in his past threads.

    Serephucus and Grindle are pretty on the money. €6k at the moment is way into diminishing returns - and is coming just a few months before a big GPU update.

    If you absolutely want, we can suggest what'd make a €6k PC right now but you'd be better off splitting the budget. Have a €3k pc built now (which will max out everything for the foreseeable future) and have a €3k system upgrade either a few years down the line or after Pascal launches (maybe 6 months or so). That should give you a better gaming experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    wow thanks for all replies will reply properly when home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Diminishing returns aren't really a problem anymore with the new crazy monitors available.

    You could easily spend close to that money and get a great experience out of it.

    2 gtx 980ti's and an Asus pg279q monitor is gonna cost the gut's of €2300 alone.

    X99 motherboard + i7 + cooler + 16-32gb of ram would be about €800-900.

    Decent case + power supply about €250-300.

    Storage options around €200-300.

    Peripherals around €300-400.

    I wouldn't bother with water cooling unless you want to spend money for the sake of spending it.

    Still around 4 grand, you could grab a second monitor although not the same crazy high end one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    ok guys thanks for all the info i gonna try respond to ye all:

    I Armour I,
    thanks for all ure suggestions on the specs, as regard the desk i dont need, im wheelchair bound so dont chair either, i actually do have all the time in the world to play games, i have a decent monitor already but not gsync or 144hz or any of the new tech i assume the step up makes a difference?? thanks.

    Serephucus,
    i thought i said for gaming and maybe small bit of streaming???, im open to anything otherwise be stupid asking for advice then not listening, wud go with water cooling no problem. q2 is like may ish next year?? do u know where i can read up on that stuff u were saying coming soon?? thanks,

    L,
    i like that idea, the split.thanks,

    BloodBath,
    thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭I Armour I


    ok guys thanks for all the info i gonna try respond to ye all:

    I Armour I,
    thanks for all ure suggestions on the specs, as regard the desk i dont need, im wheelchair bound so dont chair either, i actually do have all the time in the world to play games, i have a decent monitor already but not gsync or 144hz or any of the new tech i assume the step up makes a difference?? thanks.


    So essentially more money= more quality.. You get higher textures/graphics from the better GPU's. Better CPU's/RAM make every other task very very fast and the better monitors allow the GPU's to Maximise settings, frames and display. Any top name searches on Amazon will damn near pick the parts for you and then any of the many boardies local to you, I'm sure, wouldn't mind helping you actually build it. The only real "choosey" part of it all would be the likes of the case as it would need to please your eyes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Eoinmc97


    Right, you want to game and stream, and have a €4,000 budget? Ok, just gonna ask, are you gonna upgrade next year when 16nm rolls out and monstrosities of GPUs rear their heads? Because they are the only true 4K GPUs.
    In terms of CPUs and RAM, a Core i7 Skylake 6700K will be plenty. You don't want to bother with X99 systems, because they are more workstation geared.
    GPUs this year are pretty cool, but expensive for what they do. For 4K, CrossFire 390X are pretty damn good, with 8GB of VRAM if you ever want to add AA. Note that whilst you could always SLI 980Ti's or XFire Fury Xs, they are not worth the money when the 390X XFire beats them for about €40 more.
    Cases are purely aesthetic, (obviously functional, but most €100+ are good all-rounders) but the NZXT Phantom series, Corsair 780T or CoolerMaster Stacker series are all good ones.
    Power Supplies are basically; Find one that has 1K Watts, and 80+ Gold effeciency. Done. Corsair's RMI, Cooler Master's VGM and EVGA's Supernovas are all goodies.
    RAM wise, 32GB DDR4 is overkill, but futureproof enough to allow streaming and gaming. Heck even 16GB is good enough.

    I'm not saying, "Don't build a super expensive but OMG SO MUCH POWA PC", but you can always be smart with your money. Use the savings on things like....games, or monitors, or peripherals.
    So again,

    Core i7 6700K
    Liquid CPU cooler
    Crossfire R9 390Xs or SLI GTX980s
    16-32GB DDR4 RAM
    500 GB SSD (for your boot drive and games on Origin)
    500 GB SSD (For your Steam Library. Or maybe get a 2TB HDD for more room)
    2 TB HDD (For your edited vids or your games)
    1K Watt PSU
    Have fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    quote="Eoinmc97;97979082"]Right, you want to game and stream, and have a €4,000 budget? Ok, just gonna ask, are you gonna upgrade next year when 16nm rolls out and monstrosities of GPUs rear their heads? Because they are the only true 4K GPUs.
    In terms of CPUs and RAM, a Core i7 Skylake 6700K will be plenty. You don't want to bother with X99 systems, because they are more workstation geared.
    GPUs this year are pretty cool, but expensive for what they do. For 4K, CrossFire 390X are pretty damn good, with 8GB of VRAM if you ever want to add AA. Note that whilst you could always SLI 980Ti's or XFire Fury Xs, they are not worth the money when the 390X XFire beats them for about €40 more.
    Cases are purely aesthetic, (obviously functional, but most €100+ are good all-rounders) but the NZXT Phantom series, Corsair 780T or CoolerMaster Stacker series are all good ones.
    Power Supplies are basically; Find one that has 1K Watts, and 80+ Gold effeciency. Done. Corsair's RMI, Cooler Master's VGM and EVGA's Supernovas are all goodies.
    RAM wise, 32GB DDR4 is overkill, but futureproof enough to allow streaming and gaming. Heck even 16GB is good enough.

    I'm not saying, "Don't build a super expensive but OMG SO MUCH POWA PC", but you can always be smart with your money. Use the savings on things like....games, or monitors, or peripherals.
    So again,

    Core i7 6700K
    Liquid CPU cooler
    Crossfire R9 390Xs or SLI GTX980s
    16-32GB DDR4 RAM
    500 GB SSD (for your boot drive and games on Origin)
    500 GB SSD (For your Steam Library. Or maybe get a 2TB HDD for more room)
    2 TB HDD (For your edited vids or your games)
    1K Watt PSU
    Have fun[/quote]

    Thanks. When I sent a request for quote in scans website I had wat u said there for cpu etc and this is wat they emailed back:

    Skylake is quad core with dual channel memory and 16 PCIE lanes

    Haswell E is up to 8 cores with quad channel memory and 40 PCIE lanes


    The specs just don't compare. If you're spending €5000 it should be X99/Haswell E standard, which offers lots more performance for the money. Skylake is the 'every day' computing platform for home users and light gamers. Heavy gamers, 4K enthusiasts, VR gaming etc is all best enjoyed on X99.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    quote="Eoinmc97;97979082"]Right, you want to game and stream, and have a €4,000 budget? Ok, just gonna ask, are you gonna upgrade next year when 16nm rolls out and monstrosities of GPUs rear their heads? Because they are the only true 4K GPUs.
    In terms of CPUs and RAM, a Core i7 Skylake 6700K will be plenty. You don't want to bother with X99 systems, because they are more workstation geared.
    GPUs this year are pretty cool, but expensive for what they do. For 4K, CrossFire 390X are pretty damn good, with 8GB of VRAM if you ever want to add AA. Note that whilst you could always SLI 980Ti's or XFire Fury Xs, they are not worth the money when the 390X XFire beats them for about €40 more.
    Cases are purely aesthetic, (obviously functional, but most €100+ are good all-rounders) but the NZXT Phantom series, Corsair 780T or CoolerMaster Stacker series are all good ones.
    Power Supplies are basically; Find one that has 1K Watts, and 80+ Gold effeciency. Done. Corsair's RMI, Cooler Master's VGM and EVGA's Supernovas are all goodies.
    RAM wise, 32GB DDR4 is overkill, but futureproof enough to allow streaming and gaming. Heck even 16GB is good enough.

    I'm not saying, "Don't build a super expensive but OMG SO MUCH POWA PC", but you can always be smart with your money. Use the savings on things like....games, or monitors, or peripherals.
    So again,

    Core i7 6700K
    Liquid CPU cooler
    Crossfire R9 390Xs or SLI GTX980s
    16-32GB DDR4 RAM
    500 GB SSD (for your boot drive and games on Origin)
    500 GB SSD (For your Steam Library. Or maybe get a 2TB HDD for more room)
    2 TB HDD (For your edited vids or your games)
    1K Watt PSU
    Have fun[/quote]

    Thanks. When I sent a request for quote in scans website I had wat u said there for cpu etc and this is wat they emailed back:

    Skylake is quad core with dual channel memory and 16 PCIE lanes

    Haswell E is up to 8 cores with quad channel memory and 40 PCIE lanes


    The specs just don't compare. If you're spending €5000 it should be X99/Haswell E standard, which offers lots more performance for the money. Skylake is the 'every day' computing platform for home users and light gamers. Heavy gamers, 4K enthusiasts, VR gaming etc is all best enjoyed on X99.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Skylake is quad core with dual channel memory and 16 PCIE lanes

    Haswell E is up to 8 cores with quad channel memory and 40 PCIE lanes

    The specs just don't compare. If you're spending €5000 it should be X99/Haswell E standard, which offers lots more performance for the money. Skylake is the 'every day' computing platform for home users and light gamers. Heavy gamers, 4K enthusiasts, VR gaming etc is all best enjoyed on X99.

    Useless information, a Skylake is more than enough for any gaming.

    Pushing 4k requires no more CPU power than pushing 720p, so that's a stupid comment off the bat.

    In most cases a Haswell i3 won't bottleneck a Titan, so heavy gaming requiring a X99 i7 is nonsense.

    VR is the only thing reasonably influenced by CPU there, but there's no way a Skylake i7 won't be enough. Are you even interested in VR?


    They're correct in saying that of offers more performance for the money, its just that none of the performance will be used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Useless information, a Skylake is more than enough for any gaming.

    Pushing 4k requires no more CPU power than pushing 720p, so that's a stupid comment off the bat.

    In most cases a Haswell i3 won't bottleneck a Titan, so heavy gaming requiring a X99 i7 is nonsense.

    VR is the only thing reasonably influenced by CPU there, but there's no way a Skylake i7 won't be enough. Are you even interested in VR?


    They're correct in saying that of offers more performance for the money, its just that none of the performance will be used.


    Not really useless. The most imporant thing is the PCI lanes for a high end system like that. If he was going with dual 980ti's then they will be limited by the PCI bandwidth on the Skylake system. Especially if you want an M.2 SSD as well. X99 is definitely the way to go and it doesn't even cost much more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Eoinmc97


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Not really useless. The most imporant thing is the PCI lanes for a high end system like that. If he was going with dual 980ti's then they will be limited by the PCI bandwidth on the Skylake system. Especially if you want an M.2 SSD as well. X99 is definitely the way to go and it doesn't even cost much more.

    There are currently no cards who are bottlenecked by x16/x8 set-ups, let alone x8/x8. Just look at the scaling the Fury X has in QuadFire set-ups against the 980ti and the Titan X. X99 is not the way to go when Z170 does it just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    That's true, but if you add an M.2 drive in there, one of the cards will get bumped to x4, and that does have a noticeable impact. Also if you add a sound card, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    lol i caused a debate, good to know the advice i got of scan was bull**** well at least some of it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    I like L s suggestion of buying good pc right now for under 3k then upgrade when new tech comes out, well maybe a bit after it comes out as im sure it ll be crazy price at first. the next question i have is where to buy all the hardware etc???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    quote="Eoinmc97;97979082"]

    Haswell E is up to 8 cores with quad channel memory and 40 PCIE lanes


    .

    10 cores 20 threads in late Q2, and stay on the X99 platform

    my mistake thought you mentioned broadwell e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    For the sake of saving maybe €50-100 on the board with a budget this high why would you not go for a 5820k X99 build over a skylake i7. It makes no sense. The saving is negligible.

    At least you have the bandwidth for future cards and the option of adding an m.2 ssd and/or soundcard as well as a massive 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads.

    Also if you want to stream cpu intensive games the extra core/threads will serve you well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    ok guys, how many say x99 and how many skylake, cause im starting to get confused what ta go with now??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    x99, you still have upgrade path with broadwell e coming late next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    I'd go x99 as well. 5820k with even a mild overclock is a sweet chip which'd blast through gaming and streaming at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    BloodBath raises a good point I guess, given the pricing difference is so low on this budget. Never though of the M2 SSDs either. X99, feck it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 fouro


    If you are serious about getting into streaming then my advice would be to build a rig now for e1,200-e1,500 and build a second rig next year when the next gen of GPUs roll out. Your first rig will be then become your backup machine for when things break (which they will) and also serve as your video editing and processing rig. 4k is still aways off for mass adoption so dont blow all your budget on one rig. All of the top streamers operate a 2 rig setup for these reasons. Just remember us when you get famous and give us your cast offs from your yearly upgrades!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    This is all just theory. A person actually interested in being a streamer would do as you say and put the rest into AV equipment and startup funding to advertise and do stuff like prize draws to attract attention. A giant 5k PC isn't going to pull in viewers. Fun discussion to read, but completely impractical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Eoinmc97


    ^Good points from Xenoronon and fouro.
    If you can find an X99 CPU within €30 of the Core i7 then fire away. The cost increase comes from the motherboards, as X99 boards often splurge on....well fluff really. Besides, Single GPU set-ups are usually better handled by Devs than 2 GPUs (Just Cause 3 anyone?). Not to mention that Broadwell-E WILL NOT fit on the X99 boards, so you'll be putting that system to rest if you upgrade.
    The thing about a large budget, is to future proof things, such as your PSU, your peripherals and monitors, cases etc. DDR4 RAM will be here to stay for awhile, so your best off getting that.

    A Dual rig idea is pretty functional, so I'd do that. You don't need to buy another High-Res monitor, because the second one could be just a workstation PC. An X99 system would be better here, as a mega-powerful GPU won't be utilised when editing and processing. Have an SSD RAID here so your speeds are pretty fast.
    The Skylake system then would house your GPUs (I don't see why anyone would bother with sound cards, seeing as the included motherboard ones are pretty good anyway), and a smaller SSD and a HDD for game storage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Eoinmc97 wrote: »
    ^Good points from Xenoronon and fouro.
    If you can find an X99 CPU within €30 of the Core i7 then fire away. The cost increase comes from the motherboards, as X99 boards often splurge on....well fluff really. Besides, Single GPU set-ups are usually better handled by Devs than 2 GPUs (Just Cause 3 anyone?). Not to mention that Broadwell-E WILL NOT fit on the X99 boards, so you'll be putting that system to rest if you upgrade.
    The thing about a large budget, is to future proof things, such as your PSU, your peripherals and monitors, cases etc. DDR4 RAM will be here to stay for awhile, so your best off getting that.

    A Dual rig idea is pretty functional, so I'd do that. You don't need to buy another High-Res monitor, because the second one could be just a workstation PC. An X99 system would be better here, as a mega-powerful GPU won't be utilised when editing and processing. Have an SSD RAID here so your speeds are pretty fast.
    The Skylake system then would house your GPUs (I don't see why anyone would bother with sound cards, seeing as the included motherboard ones are pretty good anyway), and a smaller SSD and a HDD for game storage.

    lga 2011 v3 socket for broadwell e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    @Xenoronin what about someone who just wants to have some fun with streaming and enjoy life not taking everything so seriously??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    Then you aren't treating streaming as a job, which it is if you want to get anywhere. Doesn't take a lot of research to look at the popular streamers and see how they do it. They sacrifice a lot to please viewers such as working long days and nights. It is a full time job and more to get video edits alone out there to youtube (unless you can afford a video editor to do this, or just don't do it).

    If your idea is just to have fun and stream occasionally for friends, then that's perfectly fine, heavily in the enthusiast area, but still fine and spend your money how you see fit. I'm just saying this isn't the approach a person that wanted this to be their livelihood would have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    alot of the top gaming streamers did it for fun in the beginning! they never planned it as a job back then, and im pretty sure i never said i was doing it for a job, so i dunno why ure calling "just theory" and "completely impractical" because i DO want a gaming pc and i DO want to try do some streaming!! on top of all that its completely impractical for me to plan long term due to my condition!

    so anyway after that rant, i guess the only advice i need next is where to by all the parts guys?

    really appreciate the help guys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Everyone has different bugets, spend what you have dont worry about what people are saying just enjoy it when you get it.

    Just take the advice what gives you an upgrade path and what works with what

    But as i pointed out X99 has lots of life left before skylake e ? im not even sure what the next code name is and i didnt find find a start date for it either,but i double checked and broadwell e will be on x99 chip set up with up to 10 cores 20 threads 140w coming late next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    the only advice i need next is where to by all the parts guys?

    PC innards from mindfactory.de, case & monitor & peripherals from wherever else but it's probable that Amazon would be the cheapest and/or be within a few euro so it'd be worth it to have the best after-sale service by a country mile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Get the whole lot from amazon I'd say, they're great for returns and you don't need to save a few euro with mindfsctory given your budget


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    In fairness it's not like you will have any need to upgrade an overclocked 5820k for the next 4-5 years anyway so having a CPU upgrade path on that socket is completely irrelevant. Upgrade paths are only relevant when buying low end, not the top end.

    Especially when the performance gains between generations is only around 8-10%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    alot of the top gaming streamers did it for fun in the beginning! they never planned it as a job back then, and im pretty sure i never said i was doing it for a job, so i dunno why ure calling "just theory" and "completely impractical" because i DO want a gaming pc and i DO want to try do some streaming!! on top of all that its completely impractical for me to plan long term due to my condition!

    so anyway after that rant, i guess the only advice i need next is where to by all the parts guys?

    really appreciate the help guys!

    Fair enough. I made an incorrect assumption based on the fact that you want to stream with this, and the amount you are willing to spend, so I'm sorry about that. I do stand by my reasoning that this is overspending on a PC though, but that's just my opinion because I don't believe that anything over 2k has much of a benefit for the average person.

    If you want luxury, just make sure to splash the cash on a screen that delivers, the PC the guys are recommending here will easily push the best screens. The youtuber LinusTechTips does some great reviews and this playlist is pretty great for looking at current best monitors.

    A nice seat is also pretty great. Just got a NeedForSeat Maxnomic chair there last week. Loving it so far. A load of people recommend the herman miller aeron though so that's an alternative.

    Definitely look at mechanical keyboards. There is loads to look into but the Corsair RGB range is pretty swanky. I personally like Red switches without the bump and noise, others like the Blues with all the clickiness. Browns are like the son of blue and red. Not clicky, but still have a bump.

    I like the Razor Deathadder as a mouse. A more expensive option would be the Razor Mamba. Logitech are also recommended with their Gaming series line.

    Go wireless for a headset. I've found being tethered to my desk to be a little bit more annoying when I want to lean back in my chair. The steelseries siberia 800 seems to be the high end option at the moment. Corsair and Turtle Beach do wireless headsets for cheaper but still very good quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    @Xenoronin i cant get a chair cause im wheelchair bound, the best way i can explain my spending that amount on pc is for me the pc will be the equivalent to a car for your average person, im on it 24/7 pretty much. appreciate the apology,

    thanks for all the suggestions, ive the razor tiama headset at moment, but ill def get those keyboards and mouse. thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    you could go on scan uk and spec one up safe you building in and overclocking it they do it all for you . just an option they do good stuff and have a top class customer service dept

    choose the base spec and spec it up how you like . just messed about with it there you can get an insane spec with your budget

    http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom/gaming/overclocked-pcs#anc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭tazzzZ


    My advice to you would be to spend enough to get yourself to bleeding edge right now. maybe a 6700k, 16gb ram, a nice m2 ssd, and 980ti and then as and when new gpu's come out upgrade as you feel the need. that above will run everything maxed out for a long time at 1440p. Also I'd recommend a asus pg279q monitor. 1440p 165hz gsync..... its roughly 900 or so but i just picked one up and i find its worth every penny.

    Dunno if this stuff has already been recommended I just glanced over some of the previous posts. Also by doing it this way your 5k will keep you at the bleeding edge for a hell of alot longer. probably be able to rebuild 3 times over in the coming years if you sell the old ones well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    ok thanks guys, everyones been mega helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    @Xenoronin i cant get a chair cause im wheelchair bound, the best way i can explain my spending that amount on pc is for me the pc will be the equivalent to a car for your average person, im on it 24/7 pretty much. appreciate the apology,

    thanks for all the suggestions, ive the razor tiama headset at moment, but ill def get those keyboards and mouse. thanks

    Hope streaming works out for you. Can be a very lucrative career if you catch the right break. Bit of a wild west at the moment, but damn wish that sort of money was around when I was playing WC3 :D

    I guess the obvious thing to point out, from your original post, what actual internet speed do you have?

    My PC is probably valued at a fraction of what you will spend, but I can stream 720p 60fps comfortably. And worth remembering Twitch(the main streaming sites for gaming) has an actual restriction on the quality it will accept, which I believe is 720p at 60fps. Partners can output slightly more.

    Just something to take into consideration :)

    If I had your budget, I'd proabably put 1.5-2k into a new rig now, and park the rest for upgrades in a year or two when the new technology has time to come out, go through issues and get stable.

    I'd never adopt new technology immediately, final straw was SSD technology :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 seanjoyce21


    just wanted to say thanks to all the advice on waiting for pascal etc....im delighted that i waited. cheers guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Eoinmc97


    You must wait longer Sean, for Vega! XD


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